Friday Morning Update — Voters Nationwide Decide Marijuana Law Reform Measures

[Friday morning update!] In California, voters decided 46 percent to 54 percent, against Prop. 19, which sought to legalize the adult possession of limited quantities of marijuana in private, and to allow for local governments to regulate its commercial production and retail distribution. The 46+ percent (3,471,308 million Californians) voting ‘yes’ on Prop. 19 marks the greatest percentage of citizen support ever recorded on a statewide marijuana legalization effort.

Commenting on the vote, NORML Deputy Director Paul Armentano said that marijuana legalization is no longer a matter of ‘if,’ but a matter of ‘when.’

“Social change doesn’t happen overnight, and in this case we are advocating for the repeal of a criminal policy that has existed for over 70 years federally and for nearly 100 years in California,” he said. “We are taking on the establishment and those who have vested interests in maintaining this longstanding failed policy. Yet, despite these odds, we have momentum and an unparalleled coalition of supporters – from law enforcement personnel, to civil rights groups, to organized labor, to lawyers, clergy, and public health professionals. In just a few short months, this campaign moved public opinion forward nationally, and led to the signing of historic legislation here in California that will end the arrest and prosecution of tens of thousands of minor marijuana offenders.”

He continued: “Throughout this campaign, even our opponents conceded that America’s present marijuana prohibition is a failure. They recognize that the question now isn’t ‘Should be legalize and regulate marijuana,’ but ‘How should we legalize and regulate marijuana?’”

He concluded: “In the near future there will be a slew of other states deciding on measures similar to Prop. 19 in their state houses and at the ballot box. And no doubt here in California, lawmakers in 2011 will once again be debating this issue, as will the voters in 2012.

Backers of the measure have already announced plans for a similar campaign in 2012.

In Arizona, voters are narrowly against Proposition 203, the Arizona Medical Marijuana Act, which would permit state-registered patients to obtain cannabis legally from licensed facilities. But the gap is closing. As of Friday morning, the the race still remains too close to call, with Prop. 203 is trailing by less than 4,000 votes. With as many as 300,000 ballots and provisional ballots left to be counted, it could be several more days before election officials make an official decision. The proposal is sponsored by the Arizona Medical Marijuana Policy Project, an affiliate of the Marijuana Policy Project. Learn more about Proposition 203 here: http://stoparrestingpatients.org/home/.

In South Dakota, voters decided against Measure 13, the South Dakota Safe Access Act, which sought to exempt state criminal penalties for state-authorized patients who possessed marijuana. South Dakota voters had previously rejected a similar proposal in 2006. It is the only state where voters have ever decided against a medical marijuana legalization initiative.

In Oregon, voters decided against Measure 74, The Oregon Regulate Medical Marijuana Supply System Act of 2010, which sought to create state-licensed not-for-profit facilities to assist in the production and distribution of marijuana to qualified patients. Oregon voters initially authorized the physician-authorized use of marijuana in 1998. Several states, including Colorado, New Mexico, and Maine, have enacted statewide regulations licensing the production and dispensing of medical cannabis.

In other election developments that are pertinent to marijuana law reformers, California Democrat Kamala Harris is still narrowly leading Republican Steven Cooley for the office of state Attorney General. As of Friday morning, Harris is leading Cooley by less than one tenth of one percentage point (some 9,000 total votes) with 100 percent of precincts reporting. Yet with over two million ballots still left to count, The L.A. Times today reports, “With such a slim gap, the race for California’s top law enforcement office remained too close to call, and a clear winner may not emerge for days or even weeks.” Cooley is opposed by many marijuana reform organizations, including Americans for Safe Access, for his public opposition to medical marijuana, and his contention that any retail sale of medical cannabis is in violation of state law.

Also, in California, voters approved citywide ordinances in Albany (Measure Q), Berkeley (Measure S), La Puente (Prop. M), Oakland (Measure V), Rancho Cordova (Measure O), Richmond, Sacramento (Measure C), San Jose (Measure U), Stockton (Measure I) to impose new taxes on medical marijuana sales and/or production and businesses licenses. California NORML, along with several other reform groups, specifically opposed the Rancho Cordova measure as an excessive penalty on medical cannabis growers. Groups were divided in their support of many of the other local proposals.

Voters in Berkeley also approved a separate ordinance (Measure T) to permit a fourth medical marijuana dispensary in the city and reconstitute the city’s Medical Marijuana Commission Voters in Morro Bay and Santa Barbara rejected proposed municipal bans on dispensaries.

New Mexico voters elected Republican Susan Martinez to be the state’s next Governor. While campaigning for the office, Martinez voiced opposition to the state’s medical cannabis law, which since 2007 has allowed the state Department of Health to authorize medical marijuana users and third party, not-for-profit providers.

In Vermont, Democrat Peter Shumlin narrowly leads in the Governor’s race, with 91 percent of precincts reporting. While serving as state senator, Shumlin has been an advocate for both medical marijuana and decriminalization.

Connecticut voters have narrowly elected Democrat Dan Malloy for Governor. However, as of Friday morning, his Republican challenger Tom Foley appears ready to legally challenge the vote count. Malloy reportedly supports decriminalizing marijuana for adults, and also supports the legalization of medical cannabis. Malloy’s predecessor, Republican M. Jodi Rell, vetoed legislation in 2007 that would have allowed for the legal use of marijuana by those authorized by their physician.

In Massachusetts, voters in over 70 cities and towns decided favorably on non-binding public policy questions regarding the taxation of the adult use of marijuana and the legalization of the physician-supervised use of medical cannabis. Approximately 13 percent of the state’s registered voters weighed in on the questions.

Finally, Dane County (Madison), Wisconsin voters resoundingly backed a non-binding local initiative that asked, “Should the Wisconsin Legislature enact legislation allowing residents with debilitating medical conditions to acquire and possess marijuana for medical purposes if supported by their physician?” Seventy-five percent of voters decided ‘yes’ on the measure. In recent years, Wisconsin has been a highly contested battleground state in the fight for medical cannabis access.

274 thoughts

  1. Heard on Good Morning America that the “Beer” and “Medical Marijuana” industries voted AGAINST Prop 19. I also heard that there was certain language in the bill that really needs addressed. Funny that the Medical Rx companies voted against it simply because they fear they’ll lose business. It’s obvious why the beer industry contributed cash against Prop 19 as well.

    Even the former Surgeon General says to lift prohibition – it’s just a matter of time. The momentum is huge, this is gaining international attention now. The language in the bill WILL get straightened out and we’ll nail it in 2012.

    I’m sad like every other sensible person who knows how many lives will be lost, how many people will go to jail, and how much money California WON’T see for several more years. I am proud of Californians for getting it this far… awesome.

    Governor Schwarzenegger – you smoke pot in Pumping Iron and you know you still do. Come on brother, I can’t believe that out of all people, you don’t have the balls to be the Politician that takes the first step forward. What’s the worst that could happen? You’d lose your job? Shit, how many millions do you have… you’ll be just fine.

    VOTE YES in 2012 – KEEP Your hesds UP!!!!

  2. It is time we have a mager bolcox i think i spell that right but yal know what i been. Make the nusnnes pay

  3. Ok I’ve read a lot of these posts (skipping over a lot of hate spewing)…

    Everyone just stop for just one minute:

    1. Did any of the previous victories for cannabis get overturned? No they did not.

    2. Was there forward movement for the cannabis cause? Yes, California got penalties reduced and Massachusetts looks to be well on its way to Medical cannabis.

    3. Was there a drop in the support for the cause? No, prop 19 gained the most support a cannabis legalization bill has EVER achieved.

    4. Is there anything stopping the movement from continuing its forward momentum?… Well, yes. If the hate I’ve read in these comments is allowed to fracture our resolve, then we are truely lost. Take that anger, that frustration and disgust; channel it. Use it. Do something proactive with it. Move on to the next cannabis cause needing attention and support.

    Don’t sit and stew about this for another day, let alone two years. You want legal cannabis? Then go and get it. It’s there for the taking. Make all those smug prohibitionists lose that grin. Don’t you dare give them the satisfaction of this bickering and quarrelling.

    Do you realize how much power this gives them: to see us in-fighting?

    California did nothing wrong. The contrary is true: it has done the most right. No other state can boast the achievements of California.

    How dare any of you stain that list of achievements, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. NORML has risked it all for your benefit and you throw a temper tantrum like a 3 year old after one failed ballot initiative.

    Does no one realize that Colorado is drafting a legalization bill right now?

    Does no one realize we can try again in California as many times as we want?

    With every passing year, more and more cannabis rights are achieved.

    With a defeat we gain experience, we harden our resolve, we get our thick skin and a taste for battle.

    So, NORML, point us to the next battlefield.

    We’re ready to fight!

  4. Now it’s coming out that the Emerald triangle voted down prop 19 to protect their greedy little profits ! If this is so, I say boycott anything coming out of that area ! If this is true I might come out there & help law enforcement really know what to look for as far as growers ! So what comes around goes around you greedy little pigs ! That probably made the difference between passage & fail ! BOYCOTT EMERALD TRIANGLE SWAG !

  5. Lets put the blame in the right corner. It was NOT lazy stoners who didnt vote, or stupid Californians. It WAS the Medical Mj “Caregivers” GREED that killed prop 19. They spewed misinformation to protect their income, and the stupid Californians believed it. If you want proof, take a look at forums such as THCFarmer.com .
    I do believe NORML, and all of the funding should find another State to back next time around. It is obvious they are OBLIVIOUS!!!

  6. I don’t understand how people can be positive about this. Great, it’s a matter of “when.” How is that supposed to be a comfort? I have no doubt that it will be legalized within 400 years or so – but that doesn’t help me.

    I can’t stand alcohol, yet have the same reasons to drink as anyone who does excessively: I’d rather smoke pot once a month or so. Yes, I’m concerned about this only for myself. I understand that other people should have the right, but if I didn’t want to smoke pot, I simply wouldn’t care. I would say this is better than the conservative alternative which is to worry about what other people do.

    How can anyone be positive? Norml and others have been working hard to all but guarantee victory for years (what’s this “doesn’t happen overnight” crap?). It finally comes down to the wire and fails. We have two years before another election – there is ample time to mourn the loss and no reason to pretend it wasn’t a failure.

    Dear Norml,

    If you go along pretending everything went according to plan, people are going to stop trusting that you can get the job done – because it suggests that you planned for failure. Of course, it’s also possible that everyone besides me eagerly buys into pretenses, in which case I could be wrong.

  7. The country’s founding fathers must be rolling in their graves from whats been done to the god given herb cannabis. What a damn shame and what damn shame only 25% of CA voters got out and voted. You deserved to lose. What a damn shame.

  8. to the people of Calf. that voted no for prop.19, have nothing to complain about what drugs are doing to Calf. you had the chance to make things better, but no, they won’t to stay back in the prohibition era. so don’t complain you made your bed know you can lay in it.

  9. the truth is there are still far more non smokers than there are smokers and until we convince them that marijuana is a safe alternative then we will continue this battle. It also sickens me to see people with comments like these, poor losers, poor sports. A vote is a vote and if you lose you take it and try again next time, not cry like babies cause you didnt get your way. A majority of people dont want it legalized and thats the way its gonna be, I doubt that will ever change. You whiners want it legalized? I doubt you did anything to help the fact!

  10. Better luck next time is all one can say. The Black market profits made from illegal cannabis also put the axe to the bill passing. Many dealers and growers need the black market gouge to make a living and did not want to see the bill pass. Americans are more than willing to forfeit other americans freedoms to make a buck. This also explains why americans fight universal health care in this the only industrialized nation without it. The Majority of americans support evil corporate interests whether it be prohibition, hmo’s, oil companies and big pharma. The people are the problem. How to change them? I’ve been wondering this for over 40 years.

  11. Itll pass next time prolly i bet its a bunch of old people who think pot is bad that voted against it because i dont even know anyone under the age of 25 that doesn’t smoke it, its just a matter of waiting for our generation to get in office i think

  12. hahaha the people of California messed up again the underground economy of northern calif and the tunnel diggers of the south the little dealers and gangs in between are still seller your kids weed tax free there are no green jobs that prop 19 could have created and in the shuffle the cops and courts still get cash off you in the form of a stupid tax thanks to the Governor and with no fuss thanks to little news coverage if your stupid and get caught with under a oz you get taxed 100 bucks lol smoke up tokers and feel warm and fuzzy none tokers,but really ca lost a shot at more freedom and voted for a police state and less freedom

  13. Lets not blame all the old farts for your loss. I’m 58, didn’t touch mj till I was 20, and today am much more for mmj, reform and responcible legalization than ever. And I reside in a state with none of the above. Regroup, get stronger and vote people!! Abolish ignorance. CANNAPEACE—>FREE THE WEED

  14. Water vs Rock: Water always wins. Keep putting the legal MJ measures up until the prohibition rock cracks!

  15. P.S. to 138 VOTER INTIMIDATION BY THE GOVERNMENT.

    “WE DON’T CARE WHAT CALIFORNIA DOES – WE WILL AGGRESSIVELY PURSUE FEDERAL LAW.”

    Had the governemnt announced that [after] we the people sent our message and made our point on 11.02.10 -Prop 19 would have passed by the 71% in favor it attained. But – because they announced their intent before 11.02.10 they scared the livin’shit out of voters. Who the hell wants a federal felony layed upon them for smokin’ a joint – or even worse – voting yes on Prop. 19.

    The question becomes – have they received our clear message – have they got the point. Here’s the message – plain and simple:

    “You’re expendable.”

    “If you ever – and we mean ever – try to intimidate we the people again – you can start packing your bags and purchase a “one-way ticket” out of town – because -we are working on your termination papers right this very minute. See security on your way out!

  16. I am Italian and I live in Italy, I run a business and I have a nice family I always smoked ganja in my life and thank god I do not use alcool and smoke cigarettes. Thanks america and thank california to fight for the biggest injustice in history… go ahead for us as well. It is very difficult here to talk about ganja legalization because Italy is governed by people involved with mafia as the vatican is involved too and they are the first to make money on ganja. Good job I hope my son will live in a world without ganja prohibited

  17. Arnold did one great thing before leaving office and before Prop. 19 failed. It’s only an infraction of the law to possess [limited] amounts in California. Medical cannabis is still protected. Like I’ve said so many times before, religious use is the only way to attack and defeat the feds. If you believe in God and God’s Holy Sacrament, you have, by declaration, the distinction of being a Genesist.

  18. I’m not suggesting smokers boycott California tourism, but I know that I for one would have gone to CA for a vacation this winter had 19 passed but will now go on a cruise instead. I hope I’m not the only one.

  19. I think for next time, we need to make some general concessions to take the bite out of opponents’ arguments. I believe wholeheartedly that an initiative with the following terms would pass: 21 or older, may possess, consume up to an ounce of marijuana. – May cultivate as much as may fit within a 15 foot x 15 foot area – State may license retail cannabis producers and retailers, in compliance with guidelines established by the Department of Health (with legal obligation for the Department to propagate good-faith guidelines within one year of enactment) – County and municipal governments may limit or ban retail cannabis production and sales, but have no authority to enlarge the state guidelines. – Preserves an employers’ right to terminate employees for marijuana use, at their sole discretion (I know this is bad, but it’s the number one opponent argument I heard during the campaign. Baby steps.) – Penalties for smoking within the same “enclosed room or single-family dwelling” as a present minor.- Drastically increased penalties for sales to minors. – Increased penalties for unlicensed sales in general. – Increased penalties for driving under the influence of drugs. – 10% of revenue from marijuana sales are legally earmarked for teen drug-and-alcohol abuse education programs. – 10% of revenues also earmarked for state and local law enforcement (more if it looks like that might actually win some endorsements)…… I think if something like this were proposed in 2012, it would pick up almost 60% of the vote. Frame it as something that cuts both ways (i.e. for and against increased drug use in general) and you have a MUCH better shot.

  20. Re 216

    Mike, I’m an old fart myself, 56 yo–but I’m talking about the OLD farts–those above 70 YO–our parent’s and grandparent’s generations. They were the last generations not to smoke MJ–and their voting habits reflect that.

    But I agree with your message; the time for blame is over; the time for more work is here. (I think I’ve succeeded in changing MY mom’s opinion–at least she views alcohol as worse).

  21. I just came here to say that if you’re angry, you have every right to be. Californians fucked up. So did the others states with marijuana initiatives that failed this election.

    Yup, that’s right, America. People are still dumb.

  22. In The Final Tome

    The Fires Hve Been Lighted

    All the way to DC

    Prepare your rotting bodies for burial

    Praym that your rotting corpse recieves blessed cannabis leaves

    In the meantime gather closer to the FIRE

  23. I think next time we gotta focus on refuting the prohibitionist absurd claims. spread the idea that dealers dont tax kids and marijuana mixed with driving is far safer than alcohol and driving or driving while sleepy. less focus on the tax issues, more on civil rights.

    cheers!

  24. Well, I guess my measly vote for Prop 19 didn’t help.
    After reading some of the comments – especially the first one – and sampling some of the wisdom – or lack thereof – I can say without regret that I am glad to have stopped sending an annual donation to NORML.
    If some of you think that only stoners read this blog, you are sadly in error. From simple typos to bad grammar, from insults to portraying falsehoods as fact, the list is too long and re-inforces the image stereotypical stoner.
    And that neither helps the cause, nor does it reflect well on NORML and their effort.

    [Paul Armentano responds: “After reading some of the comments – especially the first one – and sampling some of the wisdom – or lack thereof – I can say without regret that I am glad to have stopped sending an annual donation to NORML.” NORML’s blog is a forum open to the public, not just NORML members or even folks who agree with NORML’s position. It is hard to understand how your frustration with some of the thoughts expressed by the public justifies your refusal to financially support NORML or in any way helps the cause of ending criminal marijuana prohibition.]

  25. This vote was a good indication of the overall state of enlightenment of our society at this point, and it’s not a pretty picture.

    The misinformation campaign by those against legalization shows just how gullible the general public really is. But every time they see marijuana activists it just enforces their opinion of what nut-jobs pot heads really are. In some arenas any attention is good but not this one. If we truly want cannabis to be mainstream legal, it has to come out of the underground culture where it now resides. Popular personalities with fringe reputations lighting up joints on talk shows does nothing to help the cause. Cheech & Chong need to be replaced with more respected and accepted spokespersons.

    Medical marijuana played the biggest part in killing this bill – and it was very much intentional. The government has seen the turn of public opinion on marijuana coming for years – allowing medical marijuana was the perfect solution for them. Those that sell it or grow for it have too much to lose to make it legal, so they voted against it and convinced their customers to do the same. Their friends and family voted it down in support of them. As Jon Stewart put it, it was a big case of I Got Mine and the “compassion” clubs voted to keep putting people in jail for what they enjoy freely.

    So now the government can carry on locking up Blacks and Hispanics to fill their privately owned prisons and still get extra tax money from medical dispensaries. They shut up the only group that had any real public support – the terminally ill. The beer & tobacco companies are off their backs as are the religious right. Tax paying pot smokers carry on as closet smokers so no one finds out that their doctor, lawyer, pharmacist, etc., are really pot heads. It’s a win-win for the government and it wouldn’t have been possible without medical marijuana.

    If we are to succeed with full cannabis legalization we need to put real money into educational advertisements – from scientists, doctors and respected members of the mainstream community and we need to challenge every piece of misinformation. The face of the typical marijuana user needs to change in the eyes of the general public. Yes, hippie looking pot head types still exist, but they are the vast minority now. The average cannabis smoker these days is not distinguishable from anyone else. That is what the general public very much needs to see.

    This campaign was lost to fear, misinformation and greed. Education is the only way to combat a strategy like that. Comparing cannabis to alcohol and tobacco doesn’t help the cause. Neither does propping it up as the cure for cancer when it has not been proven to do so. Why not tout it as it really is? A relatively harmless relaxant that has many beneficial attributes and promising medical potential. The rallying cry should be one that everyone can get behind – freedom – the right to decide for ourselves what we consume.

  26. I Think Massachusetts Will Be the First to Legalize… All 9 Districts that Voted on the Non-Binding Ballot Question on Nov. 2, 2010 Answered in FAVOR of MEDICAL and LEGALIZATION/REGULATION! Go Massachusetts Go!!! I Believe Mass. Will Make a Difference… Keep Believing Friends…

  27. This probably isn’t the right forum for this, but WHY is it illegal at all? i mean, i know the history pretty well- the reefer madness stuff, and the political and financial conspiracies that went on in the 1920’s to have it banned…
    but now, with very reasonable people making very reasonable arguments… i guess my question is why is it such a third rail politically? it’s the ONE THING democrats and republicans can hold hands and sing coombayah about. how is that possible? they literally can’t agree on the color of the sky, but they can stand like mighty monoliths AGAINST the will of the people on this? what’s really up here?
    i actually thought mj would get a decent bit of attention under the obama admin, being as far left as he is- and when we got the #1 question on some damn show when he INVITED us to ask the most pressing thing- and when mj was asked about (NUMBER ONE topic,) he made some condescending joke about stoners.
    sorry, i just don’t get it and something smells like a rat. btw, all the propositions failed specifically because of senior citizens- 2012 would be a better year for these initiatives because mainly the old folks turn out for midterms, and they aren’t gonna let it happen, thus the need for patience.

  28. Re 207

    Jason, I understand your frustration–but it IS only a question of WHEN. I’m guessing you’re fairly young by your impatience, tho I could be wrong. But I have suffered through this prohibition for over 35 years–and many others here have endured it even longer. And this is the closest I’ve ever seen MJ come to getting legalized.

    As I’ve posted elsewhere ad nauseum, time IS on our side. The oldest generations today, those that didn’t grow up smoking MJ, are inevitably passing on to the great blue yonder–every year there are fewer. (I’m not celebrating this fact–my mom is still alive–but it IS a fact.) Those oldies are perhaps the most diligent voters, moreover, and they came out in force once again. But we came VERY close to having MJ legalized with Prop 19.

    Just a 4% swing in our favor–and it would have passed! That’s 4%.

    My point–don’t give up so quickly. Most of us here are in for the long haul, and if you really want it legalized, you should be too.

  29. We lost but we won by putting another dent in prohibition & continuing our war against the prohibitionists ( Corporations ) making our movement stronger .

    Berkeley & other Cali. cities have passed new laws on taxing Marijuana . Regardless of Proposition’s 19 defeat Cities out here are still remaining defiant of the Federal Government by turning more warehouses into grow houses . Cannabis is rapidly evolving into a legitimate business . Soon we won’t need a Proposition 19 since we are doing fine without it & are still moving forward toward legitimizing its legalization .

  30. I tuned into CNN on Election Day and Anderson Cooper brought up Prop 19, there was total silence. The only guy that said anything about it was a Conservative who mentioned how Marijuana is not the harmless plant of the ’60s anymore and how more teens are going to rehab over Marijuana addiction. Did anyone else speak their point of view? No, they just sat there until James Carville changed the subject. What a fucking shame.

  31. Personally I believe it’s time that serious thought be put into establishing a territory separate from the U.S. but in close proximity for the sole purpose of full cannabis legalization. As long as no Cannabis from that territory is brought into the U.S., the DEA at least in theory would have difficulty in interference. The purpose of such territory would be to host international travelers seeking medical cannabis treatment or for cannabis tourism. Maybe this could exist on a Native reservation or somewhere within Canada, Mexico, an island or even a ship off our coast in international waters? A small territory that could sustain itself solely on international cannabis traveler revenue would not be easily bullied. It would not solve the current problem we all face in our own states. However, it would create a haven for international cooperation on this issue and would serve a model for what is possible. Amsterdam is simply too far away and it’s not the ideal model for legalization. North America needs to really start thinking outside the box. I would really like if Norml could host lawyers on live shows to speak on the hypotheticals of legalization at least in close proximity to North America.

  32. Never the less, I am not giving up hope. I’m from Texas, a very Conservative state. Most of my co-workers are all Republicans and Tea-Partiers. I brought up Cali’s Prop 19 to some of them and how it failed. One Tea Partier, in particular, made a grim face and said “I pay my taxes, so I feel I should have the right to smoke a joint when I get home from work if I want to!!”

  33. Bad news on Prop. 19,The good news: 2 more years to get it right,2 years to educate the public,2 years to combine forces of ALL Pro-Cannabis orginizations,2 years to get Every Pro Cannabis orginizations to work as One,not as the one to finally get it Legal,but all combined to get the “Fear factor” out of the equation,If every Pro-Cannabis orginization will work together to get the “fear factor “out of Cannabis education,Cannabis as a recreational pastime and as an Agricultural crop will be in the future of the U.S. Or we could bemoan the recent setback when ,if by working together, and combining the mass effort of ALL the Pro Cannabis efforts( the drug and the non-drug varieties) could ,by the next election cycle win in a favorable way. The fear of “the Leaf” can be overcome,and that ‘s what it is,fear of the Leaf.When people see “the Leaf”,automatically we think Marijuana,when it is much more,your house,your car your clothes,your food,your medicine,your means to make a living,,in the past the way to pay taxes,the way to win the war,saving trees,the environment,the list could go on indefinitely.The cause should not be How to make Marijuana legal,the cause should be How to make Cannabis legal.Like a political orginization,but instead of the fear mongering we saw over the last few days,be the anti-fear ,the education orginazation,the positive conversation,the look at the facts people,the orginization that says”Cannabis is not a crime,It was and is a way of Life,it’s not new ,it’s been with us for Thousands of years and will be with us for thousands more.As someone said”Yes We Cannabis”!

  34. Latest figures from the California elections site show that Prop 19 did not do as well as expected, because young people did not turn out to vote. An article today in the L.A. Times says that state election officials have said that had the youth vote turned out at the levels they did for the presidential election, Prop. 19 would have probably been too close to call.

    This is based on the level of support that Prop. 19 had among those youthful voters who did turn out. So I guess what needs thinking about is how to motivate younger voters to turn out for EVERY election, not just presidential races.

    I for my part am still here and still ready to vote YES on legalization in 2012. I am also still supporting NORML, L.E.A.P., and FireDogLake’s Just Say Now legalization efforts. The legalization issue needs to stay visible between now and 2012, and what will do it is monetary support for organizations working for legalization as well as personal activism. An easy way to do the activism part is to buy a t-shirt from NORML, L.E.A.P., or Just Say Now, and WEAR IT OPENLY! When people come up to you and ask you why you favor legalization (and believe me, they WILL ask), be ready to talk to them about the issue. Many organizations like L.E.A.P. have prepared talking points so that people who favor legalization can quickly get their message across.

    There IS a lot of support out there for legalization, and the L.A. Times article says that they still see about 52% IN FAVOR of legalization in their informal polling DESPITE THE DEFEAT OF PROP. 19.

    The non-sugar-coated truth is this: if young people really WANT legalization, then they need to turn out to vote in sufficient numbers to help the legislation pass. Also, everybody– and I mean EVERYBODY– needs to get active and make sure that the people around you KNOW CLEARLY that YOU PERSONALLY support legalization between now and 2012. Speak your truth, even if your voice shakes.

    One other thing– all this F-U-Cali and F-U-old-people crap is NOT going to cut it– it is going to take money, speaking up intelligently for the issue, and SHOWING UP TO VOTE to win this.

  35. Thanks Mr. Armentano for your tremendous effort in California. It is ironic that MM so muddied the political waters surrounding Prop 19. Perhaps Washington or Oregon will be a less contentious battle ground.

    Still this blow to our momentum is not nearly as bad as our collective loss in GONZALES V. RAICH.

    A legislative examination of the often used ‘Substantial Effects’ doctrine grafted into the Commerce Clause by the USSC in Wickard v. Filburn is badly needed. Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 does not empower the Federal government to regulate intrastate trade.

    If medical marijuana proponets worked against Prop 19 then they succeeded in removing what could have been a buffer for them from the ruling in the Raich case. As it stands they are only in buisness due to the tender mercy of our Justice Dept. Political winds change. Surely if we don’t hang together then we shall all hang separately.

  36. For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die,” -Teddy Kennedy

  37. Lets face it, polls are rigged. The establishment doesn’t want you to take their private funds away, so of course prop 19 failed. How many times does the CIA have to be caught bringing in the drugs?

  38. I came here several months ago and told all of you that Prop. 19 would not pass. This fact was common knowledge among even low-level state lawmakers; which was where I received the early dubious message on Prop. 19.
    It was made clear to me that lawmakers were told they pretty much had to be against it, to save face for future elections, and to maintain the “status quo”.
    What you all seem to fail to realize is the fact that for so many reasons ($) this plant can never be made 100% legal. I am personally in support of full decriminalization and legalization.

  39. Maybe I’m being overly optimistic, but everyone keeps saying that it’s been defeated…really? I was under the impression that 100% of the precincts have reported in and that the measure was defeated by approximately five hundred thousand votes. BUT, there are still 1 million, 5 hundred thousand ABSENTEE ballots yet to be counted! We wont know the REAL numbers till December 3rd. Again, maybe I’m being overly oprtimistic – but I say hang on – it aint over till it’s over.

  40. Wouldn’t it be nice if a huge influx of MJ supporters could move to Colorado in time to vote on our legalization bill in 2012? I know I read many posts that people were ready to pack up move to California if Prop. 19 would have passed. We need people to come before the election to help make it happen. I know its a crazy idea. But its a thought.

  41. 224 Longtime Puffer

    I personally watched them make “Rebel without a Cause.”
    I don’t know if that makes me an old fart [being 72] – but- most of the old farts I know “do the dubie.”

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