This Week in Weed: Oct. 9th – 15th (Government Crackdown Edition)

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This week in weed we have a triple dose of bad news: the Obama Administration cracks down on medical marijuana, RAND pulls their own study on crime and marijuana dispensaries, and the Netherlands attempts to ban high potency cannabis products. Not our best week.
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  2. First they will ignore you,,then they will laugh at you,,then they will fight you and then you will win.
    By having federal prosecutors attacking the constitution it underlines the amount of corporate control of our government,because a government of the people,for the people,by the people does not trample on it’s own constitution.
    It only remains to be seen just how far the bought and paid for government of America can go before “asleep” America wakes up and claims their country back.

  3. “If we’re not legal, nobody’s legal,” Cohen said.
    So here we have it, the feds are shutting down the whole thing. This is a disgrace that the federal government is destroying a legitimate industry, and sending it back underground. CRIME WILL SKYROCKET when this industry is totally underground and FAR MORE difficult to keep track of. These moron feds stealing t-shirts from their recent easy targets will undoubtedly change the landscape to criminal elements with guns and make their jobs far more difficult in the future they are creating. This whole thing is so illogical and makes no sense.
    Here is my theory: Attorney General Eric Holder along with the Obama administration are using this medical marijuana crackdown and the recent Iranian/Mexican drug gang foiled terrorist attack, as cover for their Fast and Furious involvement. Obama, Holder, Clinton, the DEA and the ATF might be exposed as drug dealers and gun runners; and even worse, these people might be directly responsible for arming deadly armies that could attack Americans. So Obama/Holder seriously need to change the landscape by making these agencies credible by actually cleaning up crime, instead of creating it. And they can do this with quick and easy targets — the medical marijuana industry. So they let the California attorney generals loose at this time. The public might buy it. I would bet that if Obama addresses the nation about marijuana after this, he will sound a lot like Ronald Reagan. Obama might even twist this whole thing to change public opinion of marijuana in general. The old drug war might seem like “the good old days.”
    And the medical marijuana people are soft targets with tons of assets. So the feds are stealing this property to deal with the ever growing national debt, instead of waiting for taxes to trickle in. Obama/Holder might even escalate this Iran thing into a seriousness enough of an issue to start a war with Iran to hide their alleged major drug and weapons crimes.
    This might be far worse than any of us realize. These creeps may be starting a major war to hide their crimes and the coming economic collapse of the dollar and the US economy. So it might make sense that these people are doing a pirated slash and grab before martial law is declared; because they know deep down that the economy is toast anyway. Now this would explain their actions, IMO.

  4. vote for ron paul…
    plain and simple
    Norml, if not ron paul then who? please tell us who we should vote for. Obama? Perry? Hitler…i mean Bachmann….
    [Editor’s note: NORML does not exist to tell people who to vote for. If you’re a single issue voter re cannabis and believe that voting for Ron Paul is the best candidate, then vote for him, even if he happens to have little to no chance to be the GOP nominee and can’t win a general election. Gary Johnson support legalization too, but his prospects currently seem even worse than Paul’s.
    Ultimately, when the GOP nominee emerges against Obama (again, sans Paul or Johnson), the 2012 general elections may well look like the 2008 election where, unfortunately, neither presidential candidate addresses the issue at all of Cannabis Prohibition laws, which will only perpetuate the federal government’s disconnectedness on the matter of needed cannabis law reforms.]

  5. I AGREE…
    I applaude the ” Dutch Review “. Some of the current strains are NOT natural and are manufacture to the degree that they MAY cause harm to the user. Good old weed should be legal period; these new strainS are far to powerful to be on the streets.
    The medical marijuana movement have only themselves to blame; they have shown the same restrant as a child in a candy shop.
    NATURE knows the PERFECT BALANCE.

  6. While these kinds of setbacks are frustrating and obviously ridiculous, what about this whole prohibition thing we have going on isn’t ridiculous? It’s a damn circus…well, it would be if circuses were filled with fear, intolerance, ignorance, greed, and other dark and shameful human emotions, and right now they just have clowns, which while they might be scary certainly aren’t anywhere near as frightening as having dudes with guns come and knock your door down and often violently arrest you, before subsequently having to face our twisted, twisted justice system. Hey, I’m white though, I guess that means that the obvious and commonly reported racism in arresting and sentencing minorities won’t hurt me!
    Either way though, as I always say when it comes to causes like these, truth will always ultimately win out over those relying on ignorance to their lies in order to keep, as some would say, the “status quo”. The truth in those causes almost always end up bubbling up to the surface.
    Finally, I always feel obliged to mention that even with setbacks like these the fact is that we’ve made great strides in overall tolerance and acceptance of different lifestyles and practices as we become more and more exposed to other people outside of our little white suburban towns that consider anything whatsoever out of what they consider “normal” something to be feared and hated. Unfortunately it seems that much of the intolerance left in the world is focused in the much older demographics, and in time they’ll be gone and younger generations will come along and erase these kinds of absurd, backwards thinking laws from the past when having money meant owning people’s thoughts.
    Granted, the kinds of things that those with an extreme excess of money are capable of are embarrassing and shameful these days too, and likely always will be as that’s how greed operates, but with any luck there will be a time when information is free enough that it won’t be possible to ever pull as big a sham as this “war on drugs” has been, and I feel like if that freedom was really truly threatened, and even if people fully realized just how badly those rights can be/are infringed upon by this “war”, then I think people would actually take action.
    It’s unfortunate then that should anyone dare say something like “Did you realize how unconstitutional the war on drugs is?”, they’ll likely get a sigh then subsequently get ignored by anyone who doesn’t realize that that’s the case, so it’s difficult to really make people realize that.

  7. OMG! The cops forced RAND to remove a study that showed pot dispensaries actually DECREASE crime!!!
    The cops have always argued the opposite was true, but when scientific evidence proved them wrong, instead of contemplating the truth, they suppressed it!
    My head is going to explode!!!

  8. Ron Paul is the only top candidate who supports your right to medical marijuana or otherwise! Don’t vote for a shill like Obama. Clearly Obama has no respect for states rights. Do some research on Ron Paul if you are interested and don’t know much about him. He is honestly the only top candidate I trust running for office.
    Ron Paul would never raid medical marijuana dispensaries and even supports your right to use recreationally as it does no harm to others. We all know marijuana is safer than alcohol so we should never accept this type of propaganda and bullying from the federal government.
    Best of luck to all of you. Stay safe. Peace.
    [Editor’s note: All well and true…just too bad that Ron Paul has no real chance at all of winning the GOP nomination, is too libertarian even for Republicans (which means he possess an even smaller chance of winning a general election against a sitting president) and too old to seriously be viewed as a viable candidate to ever become president.
    Otherwise, sure, he is a great and a largely dissident voice for real cannabis law reforms.]

  9. I like meany others have lost faith that there will be any meaningful change in my life time…
    I think the things will spiral down to the same level as Mexico’s drug war over time. The groups who make money off of continued prohibition of drugs will control the conversation. Those of us that advocate change will be made out to be fringe drug users that only wish to harm the U.S…. Sadly I think this is our true fate…

  10. Well, it was a good week for Ohioans. Yesterday Attorney General Mike Dewine approved a medical marijuana initiative for the 2012 election, provided enough signatures are received (which I believe will definitely happen).

  11. So what are the Feds going to do when the cannabis clubs simply raise their prices to patients in order to pay for operations in which they can NOT take any tax deductions but still remain in business?
    I mean people pay a shitload of money for legal prescription drugs these days, you know, that aren’t covered under any insurance they may have, yet sales persist. The need for cannabis will still be there, and people will still pay through the nose, so the Feds won’t be putting a dent in the trade, merely forcing them to restructure and reprice accordingly.
    All the Feds are saying is that they want a bigger cut via the IRS. That’s the subtext. b (C.S. Peirce, Umberto Eco the whole ball of wax in the study of semiotics.)
    The people/the movement will have to prepare for several simultaneous and repeated Larry Flint paying the fines moments. Remember that scene where Larry’s people bring in bags of cash to pay the fines, and dump it on the courtroom floor.
    It could get ugly for the Feds if the armored car services are accompanied by extra guards who are wearing full body armor and have permits for enough weapons to outgun the Mexican cartels who might try to rob the millions upon millions of cash or trigger-happy Feds who try to seize the money (assets) before the private security firm can get it to the courtroom.
    I would suggest you find a way to hire security from or trained by Xe, which used to be Blackwater.
    Really. Look into it.

  12. I thought that Obama was not going to sighn anything that would provoke any take downs of medical cannabis. but i guess i was wrong. i thought that this country had hope of one day legalizing this myrical, this medicine, this teacher, healer. God given right. but i guess im wrong.

  13. Hello friends, I agree with the sentiments expressed by #4,8, and have posted similarly, sadly the editors are right. I am not a single issue voter, but I think that legalization positively helps out my other pet issues, i.e.; environmental, job creation, and healthcare, not to mention the end of the drug war waste. So….after carefully contacting my reps urging them to get on board with HR 2306 and getting no response, it tends to get tedious to say the least. I will probable vote for Obama again just because of the lesser evil again, and only hope that we the people get a sane response. As for my state senators, if I do not hear from them in support of legalization, I will be voting for any third party on the ballot.

  14. This is why, the Obama regime is tightening its grip on the medical marijuana industry in, California . How much money from Pharma., alcohol, oil & tobacco ( just to name a few )he’s gotten we don’t know and that’s because of a new law which states that the politicians do not have to disclose who their contributers are …….and who made this law ? Your right, it’s the politicians .
    The brand-new bundlers accounted for at least $11.7 million in new contributions. The total raised by bundlers consists of about $35 million raised from April through June and another $20 million raised from July through September.
    The $55.5 million raised by the bundlers went to both Obama’s campaign committee and the Democratic National Committee, which have combined to raise $70.1 million so far in 2011. Bundlers have collected checks that account for 35 percent of the total raised for Obama’s re-election

  15. Quit whining about how Ron Paul can’t win and start some vocal support so that maybe HE CAN !
    [Editor’s note: Ain’t no whining…just the facts…Paul is too old, too libertarian and not popular enough to capture the GOP nomination…and could never win a general election. His numerous efforts to become president have been pure vanity-educational campaigns that have yielded libertarian talking points only. Which are fine…but don’t actually change state or federal Cannabis Prohibition laws, or stop any of the cannabis-related arrests happening every 40 seconds.]

  16. remember how Obama was gonna change all this? remember how he was gonna make everything better? HA! at liberty bell temple they have the HOPE poster… pathetic.

  17. Jeeze, not very much good news. At least the Russians are planning to legalize marijuana/hemp for agricultural and industrial use…
    The US government is still giving us these crap responses why they won’t legalize marijuana and then they take our tax dollars, while sinking us into more debt, then ruin millions of more lives just because people like to smoke marijuana.
    And the Dutch, that’s surprising. First you have to be a citizen to smoke marijuana there and now they can’t have good weed. Amsterdam’s tourism is gonna fall so much now.

  18. To the editor who claims that Ron Paul has no real chance of winning the GOP nomination, I think your negative remarks provide no benefit to those who would read them. The media chooses to ignore the fact that he is doing quite well in many polls, leaving many to believe that his prospects are grim. I think it is sad that you’re going out of your way to shoot down people’s hopes based on your imprudent opinion. Having followed Ron Paul’s 2012 campaign from the beginning, I can say for sure that he DOES stand a chance.
    I would hope that someone such as yourself who fights for people’s constitutional rights would understand the meaning of having faith in a presidential candidate who promises meld our current policy back together with the constitution.
    To everyone else, please never stop having faith that our country can elect a president as authentic as Ron Paul, one who puts the people first! Thank you.
    [Editor’s note: You may have started following Ron Paul this year…but for anyone who has followed Ron Paul’s mercurial presidential runs going back to the 1980s and his long and ineffective Congressional career it is hard to take serious that he possess any chance at all to 1) win the GOP nomination as a libertarian–when the GOP is not libertarian–over numerous candidates who both greatly out poll and out fund raise Paul, 2) win the general election against a sitting president as a libertarian in a decidedly non-libertarian country 3) if by miracle of miracles he were to be elected (not!), like Reagan became at the same age, he’ll be senile sooner than later as a 76-year-old male.
    Who wants to elect a 76-year-old guy to be president of the United States? Isn’t this simply too old to reasonably be considered for the most active and demanding job in the world?]

  19. Editor: your self defeating attitude will become self fulfilling. Ron Paul already has the entire MSM ignore and belittle him and to have the editor of NORML endorse them twice is a great disappointment. Since I run for the state house every.two years in my home district as a Libertarian on an End Prohibition platform and an anti- war activist I once considered joining you organization. I read NORML weekly but LRC daily. I consider myself an Anarchist at heart and only run to abolish any post elected to. Please pay more attention to the positive activities of Dr.Paul’s message and highlight his “end prohibition 2.0 now”message. I’m sure a YouTube search would yield quite a few. We could really use your help.
    Thank you for reading,
    Brian Holk
    LP state house TX 53′ 08, 10, 12
    [Editor’s note: OK…Paul is a shoo in with the libertarian and anarchist vote…which is his problem defined: Candidates can’t win a major party nomination and general election being a candidate of fringe political elements.]

  20. “There is too much money (in the illicit cannabis trade) for it to ever be made legal” Secretary of State Hillary R. Clinton stated.
    Wells Fargo/Wachovia Bank was caught by an internal whistleblower laundering $378.4 Billion over about a 5 year period, for which they were fined $160 Million, a mere pittance. How many other Too Big To Fail / Too Big To Jail Wall Street Banksters are also involved? probably All of Them.
    The DOJ ‘Operation Fast and Furious’ was as much a matter of propping up favored Mexican drug cartels as it was conceived as a domestic assault on the 2nd Amendment. Control the supply (and distribution) of illicit drugs, and profit — there really is no legal boundaries that the Monopoly Capitalist Kleptocracy is constrained by. The assault on small businesses involved in the Medical Marijuana industry by the Feds is yet another aspect of control of the marketplace by favored crony capitalists, both legal and illegal.
    The Iran-Contra Debacle was only the tip of the iceberg regarding government involvement in the illicit drug trade, which has never stopped. The Powers that Be consider MMJ to be a major threat to the status quo, which is making Crony Corporations and Their Political stooges even richer and more powerful. Short of a revolution at the ballot box, there is no altering the Fascistic course this country is on. Let’s make Obama a single term ‘dictator’ and the captive Corporatist (D)s and (R)s politicians irrelevant in 2012 …

  21. I do not believe in legalization in a manner similar to alcohol because that will put marijuana in a category that severely restricts it’s production and cultivation, and paves the way for a small group of commercial farmers to have a monopoly on the business, much like tobacco. This is not a “solution” as it ultimately prevents small-operation farmers from being able to continue. A law similar to the one in the Netherlands, which allows everyone to cultivate 6 mature plants and works to prevent massive operations would be much more favorable to our country’s needs.

  22. The ever sickening stew of: what is considered valuble, money, power, control and the ensuing corruption to have and maintain these is too much! How far will your government go to do this? Your health, happiness and general well being doesn’t come to the table here because we the people aren’t LOUD enough yet to be heard over the corruption. Even the truth can’t over-ride the corruption! SPEAK UP or forever hold your peace! CANNAPEACE—>FREE THE WEED

  23. I trust people here are making the right choice for president.
    It was a miracle that Obama was elected president on November 2008. A better miracle will happen on November 2012.
    VOTE for jobs and the end of cannabis prohibition!
    You know who to vote for.

  24. Erik or ” Editor ” –
    Your absolutely correct . Ron Paul is way too old, can not & will not make it as President . He’d be over 80 yrs. old if he were to finish his term besides that he’s still just another politician with deceit, lies and undoubtably would turn his back on us after he was elected .Romney would be worse than Obama . They both are liars and hypocrites . Romney even looks like he’s being fed by the corporations, industries & lobbys .

  25. This is certainly a lousy period of time as far as legalization of marijuana is concerned. When the government has to violate our constitution to fight the evil marijuna then you know things are bad. As far as marijuana potency….as the price goes up the potency will go up. Think in terms of alcohol prohibition. What is easir to smuggle 3 point beer or 180 proof whiskey? People will use less or get wasted and then back off. If you don’t like high peotency cannabis then don’t use it. The Netherlands are shooting themselves in the foot to spite their face. They will realize the mistakes they are making down the road. We already KNOW the mistakes we are making but our government is out of our control.

  26. Although I am #1211 on the NORML recommended petition,,the answer I am waiting to hear is the petition to remove cannabis from schedule 1:
    Remove Marijuana from the Schedule 1 list of drugs in the Controlled Substances Act
    http://wh.gov/4sn
    It has made the amount needed for a response but I hope even more people sign it before 10/31.
    We know what to expect on the answer of the #1 petition,,but now he has had time to prepare an answer without stammering,,I want to hear Obama make a clear understandable statement on cannabis being schedule 1 because it has no medical applications.

  27. True American #5
    I always take the time to read your posts; they are not what people want to hear sometimes but they are always true. We need more pliticians like you.
    Robin
    Post on!

  28. NOTE TO NORML AND THE COMMUNITY. I HAVE POSTED THE FOLLOWING QUESTION TO THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE SCHEDULED FOR Tues night in Nevada:
    Question/Comment: In the last few months we have seen a deliberate effort by the Obama administration to undermine the Medical Cannabis effort in California by calling for banning on advertisement and threats of civil forfeiture of property rented to dispensaries in a state, which has voted and made legal in the state cannabis for medical use. How would you support the States rights in this case, and would you be willing to reschedule the substance to schedule 2 to legalize independent research to once and for all determine if their is in fact any medical use for cannabis?
    Stay tuned for the answer if CNN doesn’t filter it out that is. Really want to see where Cain stands on it since he hasn’t addressed drug policy yet.

  29. Ron Paul might not get elected, Gary Johnson might not get elected, but one of them will have my vote because the others just don’t make any sense for America.
    Forget the cannabis issue for a minute,, listen to the rest of the crap, and I come right back to Gary Johnson or Ron Paul.
    At least I will know that I voted for freedom and not the garbage we have had,, and the idiots that share the stage with RP and GJ.
    I did vote for the current lier and dictator believing in “yes we can”,, scratch that,, “”no I frickin will not because I am a corporate controlled ant-American puppet.””
    –rant over–
    Everyone should vote, no mater who they choose.

  30. Are the people in the whitehouse leaders or oppressors? I’m going with the latter… You can’t fix a broken system and clearly our politics SUCK.. not just in regards to marijuana laws, but generally speaking 90% of our laws suck.
    Isn’t it about time that a few great and influential minds come together and try pushing for a TOTAL reform… like a revolution only not a way. An inner revolution of people in this damn country actually standing up for what they believe in rather than being spoon fed all this bull.
    I’m on a rant, guess I’ll stop… sad to hear about the bad news this week regarding mary j though.

  31. I wonder, if everyone at these protest were to light up a joint how fast would the govt. be in a chokehold and cry uncle? I say screw it because it’s already screwed. They can’t get everyone so why not overwhelm them in every way ( no violents ) just get them to realize WE THE PEOPLE are a much larger group. We made this govt . we can unmake it too. And make a new one as a nation under GOD again and keep that way.

  32. so stoners unite……this is way stupid.Why would you keep something this great from people i mean look at amsradam.(RIGHT).to me its stupid the way they treat the u.s.We are not kids so stop makeing stuid laws that have nothing to do with the constatution.

  33. It doesn`t matter why people want marijuana illegal anymore. All that matters is to use some common sense. The facts about alcohol and marijuana are out there for all to see. But the ONLY way the idiots against legalizing marijuana will see the light is to level the playing field. Do a study on anti-pot people. What percentage of those people have alcoholic beverages in there home? What percentage of those have children in the home? I don`t hear any of them trying to elliminate being drunk around babies,do you?
    We have lived in prohibition of marijuana our entire lives. Let the drunken hypocrites remember that once alcohol was illegal. And 100`s of police officers were murdered by alcoholics. I don`t give a fuck about any drunk. And anyone who gets drunk around children, and are for illegal marijuana, can lick me where I poop.
    The United States government is controlled by rich, drunk, hypocrites. Greed is the reason why marijuana will NEVER be legalized. But take away their alcohol, and thedrunken hypocrites will show their true face.

  34. I’ve expected this would happen when Obama endorses Michele Leonhart to become head administrator of the DEA.
    Her name was not being mentioned but it will be, very soon. This is only the beginning. It will be a nationwide crackdown and the 2012 United States federal government apocalyptic strategy on the cannabis issue.

  35. The sad thing is that some idiots would actually vote for a boner like Ron Paul simply because of his marijuana opinions…..that clown has not a clue a out foreign policy or other issues that really matter. Put down the bong and get a clue people.

  36. I have an interesting proposition, let George Soros run drug policy questions, not foreign policy. They would do a much better job than that un-elected administrator whose name I forgot. Let her go back to her pee testing futures.

  37. I hope the dems in the congress link debate of Lamar Smith’s legislative package with letting the Paul-Frank bill out of committee. I mean the 1 about taxing and regulating a previously used medicine.

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