Medical Researcher: Anti-Marijuana Activist Is Dishonest

In a country where it is increasingly difficult to find a living and breathing person willing to publicly debate in favor of maintaining cannabis prohibition’s status quo, one newly formed anti-marijuana organization and it’s primary spokesperson rightly lands in the crosshairs of medical researcher and cannabis policy reform activist Sunil Kumar Aggarwal, M.D. for conducting (from the time he was a college student-through his work at the Office of National Drug Control Policy-to now forming an anti-cannabis non-profit created to try to stem the ever-growing tide of public opinion in favor of legally controlling cannabis with regulations and taxation–not the brute force of the racially disparate, expensive and wasteful criminal justice system) a systematic and intellectually dishonest public relations campaign against cannabis.

The newly formed anti-marijuana legalization group, Smart Approaches To Marijuana SAM (which appears to be an organ of big anti-tobacco concerns, with funding from insurance companies and community health trust funds) and it’s spokesperson Kevin Sabet get some white hot and antiseptic light cast in their direction at Alternet from a long vexed Dr. Aggarwal.

Supplemental material about Kevin Sabet, notably his years attending University of California at Berkeley, is also published by The Center for Cannabis and Social Policy.

60 thoughts

  1. Anti-marijuana groups are not a threat to legalization. The real threat comes from the pharmaceutical, tobacco, and alcohol lobbies. These are the most well funded lobbies in Washington and the biggest anti-marijuana advocates. They fear, for good reason, their profits will dwindle when marijuana becomes legal. We can’t expect to compete with the kind of money these groups provide in opposition to marijuana. Our best course of action is to stage PEACEFUL protests throughout the country until it is legalized. Either that or just keep talking about the issue for the next 5, 10, or 20 years and continue to be oppressed while nothing is accomplished. We can’t use their tactics, these groups are to powerful. Dialogue is a nice step, but its the bottom wrung of the ladder. We will never reach the top through dialogue alone. PEACEFUL protest is a great tool that seems to have been forgotten about in this country.

  2. Okay so what exactly happened? Did I miss something or did we just get a, ‘man you gotta here this story about …’ ……… crickets … I havent toked in a long time so I know I aint stoned but I sure as heck dont have a clue what just happened here. I read it and it seems the story stops before we get told anything of substance.

    Also gotta comment. I know NORML works very! hard but why is it other pro-cannabis news sites always have 10 times the number of stories about our cause than you do? I appreciate all you do for the legalization so please dont misunderstand but does anyone work the editorial department except Allen?

    [Paul Armentano responds: NORML is an educational, legal, and lobbying organization — not a news site. If you are simply looking for the latest, most relevant marijuana-specific headlines, you should scan NORML’s facebook page, not the blog. NORML also engages in media outreach to publish more op/eds calling for the need to reform marijuana laws in mainstream media venues than any other like-minded reform organization. For instance, in the past week alone, NORML-authored opinion pieces appeared in:
    CNN —
    The Boulder Daily Camera —
    The Washington, DC Daily Caller —
    The Huffington Post —
    The Vacaville (CA) Reporter —
    The Vallejo (CA) Times Herald —

  3. Anti-marijuana groups like this are no threat to legalization. The real threat comes from pharmaceutical, alcohol, and tobacco lobbies. These are the most powerful lobbies in Washington and are some of the biggest proponents of anti-marijuana legislation. We can’t expect to defeat these lobbies using their tactics. Simply talking about the issue isn’t going to solve it. PEACEFUL protests until legalization has been achieved is our best option. Dialogue is a good step, but it is the bottom wrung of the ladder. We will never reach the top through dialogue alone. PEACEFUL protests are a great tool that has been lost in this country.

  4. What I don’t get about these tobacco and alcohol companies fighting marijuana reform is this: can’t they cash in themselves? Come on, even if people “can” grow their own, not everyone is going to be able to do so. Not everyone will have the proper environment, and some people just don’t have much of a green thumb. My mom and I keep buying bamboo that dies, for example! And some people are just not going to want to do that–remember, we live in a lazy country in many ways, and there are plenty of people who would rather go to the store and buy pre-grown, pre-cut, pre-rolled MJ cigs rather than do the work themselves. And not everyone is going to stop using tobacco in favor of MJ, but considering MJ is so much cheaper and easier to produce they could easily be adding MJ products to their lineup and make a bundle–and even better, since MJ is so much safer and healthier than the garbage cig companies are already hocking, they’d improve their image by not selling a poison that kills most of its customers. And make better money because they’re not killing their customers.

    And you can’t tell me alcohol companies can’t come up with some kind of non-smoking MJ product, some MJ-type drinks. Not to mention that from what I’ve heard, people often smoke MJ while consuming alcohol, so they don’t even have the same worry of the tobacco companies that people are going to eighty-six their product in favor of another.

    Just like coal and oil companies with renewable energy, these industries could really clean up by getting on the right side of history, supporting what’s right, and jumping in on the ground floor. In the short term, they’re cleaning up I’m sure, but that won’t last since they no longer have the support of the majority of the people, and with every ninety-year old who dies they lose more votes and more support. In the long term, they could gain so much more if they stopped the foolish tantrums and the lying and got with the program.

  5. Now that we have momentum in the crusade to legalize Marijuana, anti Marijuana groups will be cropping up like dandelions* on a summer day. It’s only natural. The embarrassing part for them is that they are still relying upon pseudo-science and propaganda while real scientists are discovering the many positive uses for this interesting plant. And the beauty part? These studies are readily available to anyone seeking to advance their knowledge and understanding of Marijuana, thereby further discrediting the “anti” contingent. Sweet. So these anti groups play a much needed role in keeping the discussion alive and well.
    It was never going to be a cakewalk. We always knew there would be blowback. The pendulum will continue to swing as it always has. But we’re really close now. It has entered the public domain and is under discussion all over the planet and this is a good thing. Upward and onward.
    * Respect to dandelions which actually have medicinal value.

  6. Hey Norml, I just have a question since there are sooo many stories comparing the use of weed to “neglectful supervision” in regards to reasons for DHS or HHS or DFS to take our children away for smoking or growing marijuana. Most of the stories I have read always ask about why we allow alcoholics to raise children “legally” but not us pot smokers. My question- Was there any case or situation in alcohol prohibition era where they took the children away from alcohol consumers and/or producers? I would really like this question answered for the next time I am writing Steve King. Thank you all!

    [Editor’s note: Child Protective Services in general didn’t exist during Alcohol Prohibition, nor did police arrest parents who drank or possessed alcohol (which was legal under Alcohol Prohibition, with only sales being banned).]

  7. I think Sabet is just a sore loser. We are winning and he can’t stand it. He will whine and cry to the bitter end of cannabis prohibition. Keep the momentum going. We are getting closer everyday.

  8. “Anti-marijuana groups like this are no threat to legalization. The real threat comes from pharmaceutical, alcohol, and tobacco lobbies. These are the most powerful lobbies in Washington and are some of the biggest proponents of anti-marijuana legislation.”

    Yeah… Uh, no. These groups lobby for a lot more than keeping weed illegal. When they do, it is more of a PR thing, playing nice with the powers that be. They don’t make money on prohibition. Drugs testing companies do, not drug companies. People will still need plenty of drug, marijuana is not going “cut into their profits”. How exactly would it do that??? At most marijuana works for about 1/3 of the population, most people don’t like it. People that don’t like marijuana, aren’t going start liking it because is no longer illegal.

    Also, illegal marijuana is holding our whole economy hostage! Because it is illegal, it costs way too much. Money marijuana people would be spending on the economy is instead just going to marijuana. Making such a useful plant illegal is helping to kill the economy because we’re not buying stuff–we’re either getting kicked off our jobs, sent to jail, hiring legal representation–all this money swirling about in the toilet of prohibition instead of fueling our economy.

    Sure, there are a lot of thieves making money from prohibition; but *the rest of the economy* would like for prohibition to go away so they can finally make real profits. Prohibition of marijuana is robbing from Peter to pay Paul—it has short circuited billions of dollars out of our economic future.

  9. I am constantly amazed at how some people can tell the truth in a way that is misleading. This man seems to be a master at it. I think we should give him a taste of his own medicine.

    Recently a story aired about a young patient with seizure being helped by medical marijuana. Now I can see why Gupta endorsed this and i can see why said endorsement could be seen as threatening to an organization such SAM. However mr. sabet may have made a mistake. During his response to the Gupta Reversal he compares the marijuana concentrate used by the young girl to morphine, which by his standard is a legitimate medicine. Also said oil is an extract of the whole cannabis plant so wouldn’t his acceptance of this oil be inconsistent with is stance on keeping marijuana as schedule I drug.

    While i wanted to draw attention to these thing i think what we should do with this tid bit of information is make our own new titles that have the same half truth elements that he so skillfully displays. My suggestions are “Sabet compares morphine to Hash oil” or “Sabet unclear on marijuana scheduling stance”. I think it would serve him right to be put under the micrscope by misleading but honest information

  10. Andy,

    Protest marches haven’t accomplished anything much of value in recent decades…. The only way to change the world is to extricate ourselves from the matrix. Just smoke pot if that floats your boat… but don’t buy (into) any of the goods and services, ideals, dictates of the powers that shouldn’t be.

  11. @chunk

    The moment we stoop to their level, we no longer merit the right to walk tall and righteous in or gradual procession to victory.

    Moral victories are won with passive resistance, logic, and truth. Not hypocrisy. We needn’t become what we hate in order to expose it’s erroneous behavior. Eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind.

    You follow me?

  12. It doesnt matter if they have more money. They couldnt buy the election. We have WAY more people! In the name of God ldts legalize pot. Our sanity is at stake.

  13. I disagree that peaceful protests are the answer to legalization. I think that they significantly help, but the real ticket is showing the politicians that they will likely be voted out of government if they are against it. Do this via the peaceful protests but also through writing your local and national government officials on your opinion of the matter. Show them that they don’t have to be afraid to advocate policy reform.

  14. Exactly Chunk, I asked him directly why is bothering to make a big deal about THC rich marijuana vs. CBD rich marijuana; as our bodies digest THC, it is converted into CBD anyway! Most drug tests are for CBD! Kevin Sabet knows this too, and just keeps on proving he is full of shit.

    Hey Kevin, if you don’t want THC rich marijuana, all you have to do is get some seeds of such a variety. And then grow them. What is with this endless subtrfuge about marijuana being somehow magically dangerous. Fucking Engery drinks send more people to the ER, but the doctors say your heart is racing from the marijuana you took, not the speeeed you took… What??? Were these bone heads trained by Mr. Sabet?

  15. Ijust went to see SAM. These folks are the new pro cannabis clowns .They are looking to make money. None profit does not mean your offcers dont get paid.They do. This is not good news for our side. We must fight them . Bring them in the open and crush them.Force them in to a debate.

  16. A lot of people think that the tobacco companies want to keep marijuana illegal but I’ve heard that is not the case because RJ Reynolds has machines set up to roll joints as big as cigarettes. My point is if the tobacco companies can profit off marijuana legalization why would they oppose it?

  17. Let’s ditch the term marijuana and call it what it is, cannabis. This ugly m word is used to denigrate this miracle plant and has been since the prohibition began in the early 1900’s. The real fight to legalize cannabis is up against powerful enemies who will not give up their control easily.

  18. The poster who commented …”why we allow alcoholics to raise children “legally” but not us pot smokers”… makes a good point, also, a lot of the tobacco users have proven time and again to have elevated tempers, yet the marijuana community, the treasonous thugs want to hate

    The cannabis community should draw up bills strictly enforcing anto treason laws and high crime laws, then whenever any constitution hating prohib ever tries to assume their life is supreme over another, and passes unconstitutional laws, it is a treasonous offence to commit war on ones own country in the first place, so how about we the people start enforcing the constitutional laws, and locking away all the war lovers, take their kids away, they dont need to be breeding, and take their houses and cars away too, see how they like being treated so poorly, the unconstitutional discriminatory hate laws against the cannabis community would change quick then

  19. The poster who commented …”why we allow alcoholics to raise children “legally” but not us pot smokers”… makes a good point, also, a lot of the tobacco users I know have proven time and again to have elevated tempers, yet the marijuana community, the treasonous thugs want to hate

    The cannabis community should draw up bills strictly enforcing anti treason laws and high crime laws, then whenever any constitution hating prohib ever tries to assume their life is supreme over another, and passes unconstitutional laws, it is a treasonous offense to commit war on ones own country in the first place, so how about we the people start enforcing the constitutional laws, and locking away all the war lovers, take their kids away, they don’t need to be breeding, and take their houses and cars away too, see how they like being treated so poorly, the unconstitutional discriminatory hate laws against the cannabis community would change quick then

  20. Truth is confirmed by inspection and delay; falsehood by haste and uncertainty.” ? Tacitus

  21. Wikipedia treason, under the heading of “United States” “Federal”,
    and you will read in part:

    …”Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

    Those who are guilty of sedition and subversion of the constitution by changing the established order of peace in the states, and changing the constitution to allow for war on the cannabis community should be ashamed of themselves, and we the people are to blame for allowing them the opportunity of employment of any government office this country does not need treasonous traitors in office declaring war on people who love cannabis flowers.
    Furthur it is our constitutional right to use it for religious purposes as well, traitors would have us all believe that keneh-bosm is not a word, and not in the bible, that moses didn’t write the 10 commandments through the use of the wonderful cannabis bush that resembles fire but is not consumed, and that is exactly what the serrated leaf blades look like, fire

  22. Wikipedia High crimes and misdemeanours,
    and you will read in part:

    …”The charge of high crimes and misdemeanors covers allegations of misconduct peculiar to officials, such as perjury of oath, abuse of authority, bribery, intimidation, misuse of assets, failure to supervise, dereliction of duty, conduct unbecoming, and refusal to obey a lawful order.”…

    All people of political office take an oath to protect everyone’s constitutional rights, not just their friends’. The constitution does not read that some men are created equal, but all are.
    So when a political figure takes an oath to protect everyonesconstitutional rights, and then commits purjury, and lies and is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors, and the public at large allows it to go on for years, wasn’t it, I think it was 1937 when the hate laws started, well it should stop, and if the treasonous traitors won’t stop warring on their own country, then the future for the states looks terrible

  23. wikipedia Treason, and wikipedia high crime

    why are criminals allowed to be in office for commiting purjury and instead of protecting everyones constitutional rights, they seek out war on their own country, which is treason, so why are traitors spouting off about people spying on them for?

  24. Oh well, this herb will make everything alright in my own head anyway lol

    maybe its all a lie ufos and aliens indeed, grow up people, no one wants to live in secrecy all their life, silly people anyway

  25. It is good in this world to have good friends
    people who are their for you forever with no end
    with this next nug i do say
    that this eve looks better every second
    actually anyway in some magical way
    but not to look too odd
    I do believe in and thank God


  26. So now I must munch
    and I have a hunch
    that maybe a tv dinner, and some peas, and or a salad may do
    as I take another toke and refill my dew, and converse these thoughts from me to you
    mayhaps some music would be nice
    don’t know how the group feels about weed, but maybe I’l listen to change doing paradise
    only when doing weed, the meanings take on a possible cannabitisical conncetion
    paradise is after all a main topic and the word eye was also mentioned apon my inspection
    even if its a coincidence or not, it matters not to me you see
    but to hear it again brings back the days it was played on radio staion wtlc
    as I was in high school and my sisters parakeets were in the other room singing away
    as another warm summer day came and went so long ago that day
    the exitement of being young and the thoughts of being that anything a person puts their mind to
    thats what they can achieve when or if they really devoted some time and effort amd thought to it and if its something they really put they’re mind too
    those were the days it seems that life seemed so alive
    weed helps me relive those thoughts again
    as my eyemaginaation seems to magnifyh and come alive
    making me feel the need to write these thoughts here just for fun
    hope not to offend
    but these random thoughts areas always one possible scenario,
    as we are all different in our likes and desires and whether or not we like listening to the stereo:)…….
    But we should all strive to keep the love alive in our hearts for one another as our number one goal deep down when it all boils down to it and everything lol
    Much love to the good folk
    heres another toke as i think i will now watch an episode of hogan’s heroes
    to keep reminiscing the past
    missing people and places no longer around if only a cure for death were here at last
    well what if it is some sort of cannabis strain
    that takes the dis out of all possible disease that maybe could or does start in ones brain
    maybe cannabis is the best cure for pain
    i cant speak for others, i just know what works for me time and again
    that wonder plant that alone makes the world seem a wonderful friend in some sort of grand sort of a grandiose sort of amplified love for the moment sort of way

  27. The eerie thing about Syria is that Gerald Celente has been saying for a long time that when the economy fails “paraphrasing”, the feds will take us to war, and that is what it looks like, doesn’t it?
    But if people valued human life more, if people just valued the love they feel through cannabis, if they left all their problems to GOD, rather than blaming each other for their miseries, and the plant could do all good, if only the blood thirsty ill sick depressed cannabis hating mental man would, this world could be a very beautiful place, once the prisons where all the cannabis lovers are concentrated were allowed their constitutional freedom guaranteed them until treasonous traitors swept the usa land for its victims, lets end the war here too huh?

  28. Thanks to the good folk, canna-med is in my head 🙂
    And I know the weed is good, but I really, I think I may have gulp, can’t believe I’m saying this, but maybe I have been misjudging President Obama somehow? I mean I heard all these things in his speech, well, things like:

    …”People who could have given up, and given in, but kept on keepin’ on, knowing that, weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning”…

    …“and to me, personally, in my own life, that means weeping may endure for a night that I’m out of weed, but joy cometh in the morning when I re-up”…

    …”to dismiss; the magnitude of this progress, to suggest, as some sometimes do that little has changed, that dishonors the courage and the sacrifice of those who paid the price to march in those years”…

    That one makes one really think if they are truthful, at least it does me, its just that when i see on the news of people being done wrong, and imprisoned, or sometimes even shot and killed, it makes me umm, concerned is an understatement, but then Obama does make a point, too, i suppose

    …”people of good will, regardless of party are too plentiful for those with ill will to change histories’ currents”…

    And I pray so, for all our sakes, as long as the currents of misery, and war are corrected to lead the currents toward liberties and freedoms for ALL, not just for the group of people that are insane with hate and want of war on everyone not them

    …”liberty and justice for all”…

    I sure hope he means well for the cannabis community, I mean it, it is really creepy to have a war on in your own country, and one like me asks myself every once in a while, am I, and is the cannabis community, are we really safe even living in the states? And then a good friend canna-imbibes me, then I see that vid, and it seems all is heading towards a peaceful outcome for “all”, so I am fine with that, thank God, some good news, not too often to hear good news, one guy I heard recently said something like and it was either coast or was it clyde lewises ground zero show, a caller i think said something like if the countries leaders spent more time helping people out instead of spending time and hard earned monies on figuring out ways of killing one another through wars, the world would be a better place, “paraphrasing” and I agree:)

  29. On the one hand it sounds positive, but then they have to terrorize the cannabis community with the treason talk saying how the cannabis community will be vigorously prosecuted by the mean prosecutors with stiff punishment to those who give it to minors, and i can not tell how disappointing that is, from the chrohns disease, and ibs I, as a “kid”; could have ENJOYED my childhood if it were not for people who abuse their authority and seek out war on their own country which is treason you know, why are they allowed to even say such obscene talk for is beyond my comprehension, but lets pray Obama is on our side some how

    we have no other choice, obama is the guy, and he better do good, he and holder both swore to uphold everyones constitutional rights, and that includes the cannabis communities, cause we are part of the everyone in our promise given us through the constitution if the United States of Americas, and no one should EVER be threatened for cannabis use ever, especially in the US of A

  30. Why is it that no cannabis is allowed to now be transported across state lines?
    What rights do the cannabis community have?
    Stinks the silent stoicity, as they say we are moving as a nation forward with liberty and justice for all, which sounds great, but then holder and obama says they are not at this time in support of the legalization of cannabis, so which sounds like it means that they do not then support liberty and justice for all do they, but we must have faith, how could it be though that the cannabis community does not at this time have any liberty or justice under the current treasonous laws which are in direct violation with our constitution of the united states of america?
    The want of the secret keepers to keep silent is sickening to me, as there can be no weed transported across state lines to those who need it, what of their rights guaranteed them?

    How is one to obtain it? No change for the better if everyone is secretive, and cause no one will talk about anything, and if they don’t talk about anything of importance on the news, then what could possibly change for the better? How can we find the true cure for cancer, possibly even death with warmongers terrorizing their own country with words such as what holder said, saying really he is saying that prosecutors will be allowed to keep imprisoning the cannabis community, and they have the gull to want to seek out wars in other countries?
    Why would any country buy the crap for? Many don’t, that doesn’t make them enemies of us, it may make other countries enemies of jerks in d.c. who love other wars around the globe for the profits they make

  31. how can we look up to our country when it is so evil?
    So but some how we must, its all we have, we have no choice, we well I personally don’t want to see a un civil war, and I don’t think most others do either, so really we have to prosecute the trash that keeps stepping on our constitution, else they will take us to a nuke war that the world may never survive, and their meanness I believe they may actually do it too, to keep cannabis from the hands of any one is evil, so they are evil, so they are capable of all things evil, so but to get along with the evil people, how to?
    I don’t want anything to have to do with them, but we are all here on this planet, we cant just kill one another, why is it that in this world that when some bully wants their way, they war, kill and imprison people do get it?
    I don’t admire bullies, never did, never will, so until children CAN use cannabis if they need it, and anyone else who lawfully has the right to consume cannabis under our constitutional law, I will be concerned for us all, but as I put traitor holders words out of my mind, I do realize, that the changes although small, are something, so I suppose we just have to have faith that the idiots will stop warring on us, there is really a lot more to life than war, and those who don’t believe that are a true danger to all life

  32. 90.9fm, a Minister just said we should in part…”guard our hearts” and be “proactive” and i wish i heard the whole thing, but the word proactive made me remember that bacterial cells in our body are good, and bad, so I know the day pro-biotics too, but anti-biotics are and have been popular, but isn’t it best to instead of killing cells whether it is from radiation treatments, or anti-biotics, wouldn’t it be best to take pro-active measures with our health if we ever were to ever in our lives to become ill with something sometime in our lives?
    I do not take pills personally, yet i see the value in controlling infections, whether it be through cannabis’ use or pill form

  33. argh, the typos, meant to write, and the auto correction made the thought totally different, and unintended, instead of ” i know they make” shoulda been ” i know the day” sheesh
    gotta get some ice for this dry mouth, but before i go, how should and or could we in the cannabis community behave in a pro-active way to end the war against us? rather than the negative yelling and name calling crap, that seems to further tensions in all surly, but no matter who starts that, the anger surly comes from the insane treasonous laws against our very lives, and against our very country, which is unconstitutional too by the way, you can not start a war in your own country and deny the definition of traitor as being the explanation of the name of your actions, and if you are anti-christ, not pro-christ, christ being any one imbibed with the cannabis oil of some secret strain that has such a thc rotation, i suspect a unusual strain of sativa, perhaps with a thc beam test twist far exceeding the normal stuff in degrees whether it twists to the right or the left who knows, not that there is anything wrong with the intensity, far from it, but so how do we be pro-active as a group in this society, something each of us has to think about for ourselves i suppose

  34. only wish those at war in the countries where they are killing each other with bullets, i wish they would be more pro-active, and talk out their problems, rather than killing each other, like some anti-biotic – then; pro-biotical politics i guess is whats needed where instead of the different political folks tearing each other apart with their mean words and killing each others happy spirits, much like an antibiotic kills cells, don’t you think that if each one of us built each other up, the world would be a much better place?
    We would have a better understanding too, our foundations in life would never be shaky, we would always have each other to depend on, not fight wars, and kill, like you see on the news, what if it was all flipped?
    Obviously, it seems the better way to live, so how though, when folks are so ingrained in their habits of anger as a problem solver, rather than reason, and a joint:)

  35. I am SOOOO! behind the times, Rick Steve’s it turns out has a show called “Cannabis Planet” and I didn’t even know that I was missing out, well, there is aaa nifty clip of it on youtube called “Dr. Lester Grinspoon”.


    Good to see that, thanks to Dr Grinspoon, and Rick Steves!

  36. Other must youtube see on Cannabis Planet is “Hemp car being developed in Canada”, and wikipedia says Cannabis Planet has been on since 2009

    sheesh, ive been missing out

    oh no, i now have ice, but lol ran out of mountin dew 🙁

    Oh well, a toke of herb, soak my shirt in water for to keep cooler in this terrible heat we are having here lately in this typical high humidity hot august time of the year, im fine til the water dies out, then its time to re-soak, and re-cannamed;)

  37. According to radar, the storm is just about to pass over, as soon as its gone, I had went for dew, but got a mountain dew fountain drink and put it in a 44oz polar pop cup, and paid for another cup of ice, and then got a sandwich and salad, then it stormed so I dashed home instead of getting more dew, which I had intended too, I wanted to get the ice in the freezer before it melted, now I have to wait for the rain to stop then go get more dew, after I cannamed:)
    but what brings me here are a few ideas and wanted to pass them along to responsible adults who know how to solder without getting themselves burnt lol, I have this large server heat sink, and thought of a way to cool aquarium hose tubing to be used to hopefully cool a person on a hot day, I thought I’d buy a small amount of small diameter tubing about the same size as the aquarium hose so that the hose could be slipped over the coil if copper tubing that would need to be made, and that coil could be mounted to the heat sink simply by drilling two holes and drilling out multiple strips of cut out 12 ounce mountain cans until thickness is adequate for a strong bracket, then drill holes in them staked on each other and the straps will be strong enough to hold the coil tight against the heat sink, also before mounting, a little bit of heat sink compound will be applied to help transfer the heat, and if it works good, later, better heat transfer could be achieved by soldering the proper coil length to be predetermined, and then solder the coil to the copper part of the heat sink which is in this case copper and aluminum-

    I was wondering if a better way of cooling toked smoke and vapor existed or could exist if better cooling conditions were met, so another idea I will determinately try is to try super cooling a larger diameter copper tubing, big enough for a draw of air without being such a narrow tube that it restricts too much air like the size of that aquarium tube surly would, disallowing comfortable air draw would be avoided that way, then apply heat sink compound to that electronic cooler, and on the other side, mount the large heat sink, and then with tubing one could cool off their vapor, or smoke, and theoretically, they may be able to intake it more comfortably, and possibly with less cough, because it would be far less hot, I think you should get a cooler draw than a water pipe, because the water is only in contact to cool the vapor or smoke usually, in a small water pipe like mine, the vapor or smoke is only in contact with the water for about 1 inch, compare that to the contact with the cold copper tubing, and the longer the spiral of coiled tubing is the more it should cool the smoke or vapor, if one were to experiement, they should find that proper length of tubing to make the spiral not too long that you would have too much waist from the med sticking to the walls of the copper tubing, and at the same tme not too little contact with the cold surface that too little cooling would take effect, hmm, I will try these things tomorrow:)
    oh no, radar shows another storm approaching, better dash to get dew before it get here ltr

  38. Back at home tucked in safe and sound and made it right before the storm came, what great luck that is, lol sometimes I’m not nearly that lucky and get drenched, well, oh another two idea I had would be on the testing of the kids in that study mentioned before earlier, in the lab, I believe the best accurate and helpful results will be found in amongst all the details, if one really wanted to find out the mysteries on just what makes a person feel good, and well, and the more details, by way of reading the THC, THC, cbd, and others, I think that best results would be obtained by instead of taking readings once a day or twice like they may have I just don’t know but for accurate info, and to find out what causes any adverse reactions in some people, that for that reason alone devices need to take readings constantly, updated like maybe 5 times a second and then one could actually chart and just see what chemical whether its cdn, or whatever the culprit it, or maybe the spin, or the right or left spin, all these things need be considered and analyzed, and that the body chemistry has been known to suddenly change for short periods of time, causing differing levels of needed canna-med titration for a person to maintain the balance their body needs to feel comfortable, so if a person imbibes too much of a percentage of THC for instance, then if their body is prone to change its body chemistry, which could cause adverse affects in more than children, so any study that says negative results were found through cannabis use, im just suggesting that that does not mean that we should just abandon the idea of harnessing cannabis’ is that cannabie? lol vast nifty awesome potential to do good in its many wonder ways, whether its our health, or happiness, and or the pursuit for and to keep it intact:)

  39. lol
    forgot to mention that my fountain drink polar pop cup sprung a leak, and when i got home, it had spilled out somewhere from the filling station to home…
    oh well, at least i didn’t loose my weed:)

  40. 105.5fm just played Kenny Rogers doing “Something Is Burning”, what a nifty thing to hear, cause and it is approximately 4:20 seconds long;), and when my weed is burning, the effects of which, I know its love I feel for the world
    And I think it’s love.

  41. The latest installment of “Cannabis Common Sense” #699 is on youtube, Paul Stanford did a great interview on a tape they showed he did on a TV station, and a good song was sung, the lyrics, oh wait, im missing the radio

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