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In a revelation that I’m sure will come as a surprise to absolutely no one, it turns out that ex-Drug Czar John Walters is still full of s—-t.
Responding on CNN last night to California Gov. Schwarzenegger’s call to debate the merits of taxing and regulating the adult use of marijuana (E-mail the Governor here), Walters demonstrated that he remains an unrepentant liar — even though he’s no longer paid by the federal government to be one.
To summarize: in under five minutes Walters manages to falsely claim that:
Today’s marijuana is far stronger — and thus more dangerous — than ever before. Actually, the Feds’ own data indicates that the average strength of domestic cannabis hasn’t changed in over ten years; that marijuana — regardless of THC content — is relatively non-toxic and incapable of causing a fatal overdose; and that most folks — when given the choice — prefer to consume milder marijuana over highly potent pot.
More people seek drug treatment for pot than all other drugs combined. Technically true, but only because between 60 percent and 70 percent of individuals enrolled in substance abuse ‘treatment’ for cannabis are small-time pot offenders who were referred there by the criminal justice system. In fact, according to the latest federal data, nearly four in ten people admitted to substance abuse treatment programs for cannabis did not even use it in the month prior to their admission.
Nobody is actually in jail for marijuana-related offenses. Ah yes, the “unicorn” theory. Never mind those 50,000 or state and federal inmates serving time for pot offenses the U.S. Department of Justice’s Bureau of Justice Statistics talks about. In John Walters fantasy world, they simply don’t exist.
Consuming cannabis leads to violent behavior and other criminal acts. Apparently, when pot doesn’t make you “docile and unresponsive, to the point of helplessness,” it makes you unpredictably violent. Or not. Look, I asked this question on Monday and I’ll ask it again: Read about any gang-related violence surrounding the sale of alcohol lately? How about vicodin or paxil? Didn’t think so. Consuming marijuana doesn’t cause violent or criminal behavior, but criminals and violent people do engage in the black market trafficking of illicit drugs. The irony, of course, is that the very ‘violence’ that Walters claims to lament — that is, when he and his colleagues over at the DEA aren’t hailing the increase in drug-related violence as a good thing — is a direct consequences of the public policy (prohibition) he reflexively endorses.
**Side note: Maine Gov. John Baldacci just signed legislation into law on Friday making the possession of up to 2.5 ounces of marijuana a civil violation, punishable by a fine and no jail time. (Read more about this law in this week’s NORML News stories.) Expect to hear Walters ranting and raving about marijuana cartels setting up shop in the Pine Tree state any day now.
Finally, for good measure, Walters even resurrects the claim that there are now more medical marijuana dispensaries in the city of San Fransisco than there are Starbucks — an allegation so absurd that the San Francisco Chronicle newspaper laughed it out of the room some six months ago.
So here’s my question: Gov. Schwarzenegger — as well as U.S. Senator Jim Webb — have called for a “debate” on whether or not to legalize the use and distribution of cannabis for adults. Webster’s dictionary defines “debate” as “to argue opposing views.” But as Walters’ comments so adeptly illustrate, the opposing side has no actual “views,” it only has lies and seven decades of bulls—-t.
Therefore, I say we skip the public debate and go straight to the public ‘debunk’ (verb: to expose the fallacy or fraudulence of). I’m sure we can find Mr. Walters a seat at the head of the table.
excellent article
this is like the second or third Harvard professor debating for legalization. i shouldha went to Harvard haha
Wow what a tool.
god, the thing that pisses me off the most is that people are actually going to BELIEVE him without looking into it theirselves. it makes us, the ones that know the truth, have to work 10 times harder to get the truth out there, and even when we do, there’s gonna be some asshole like Walters telling people that WE’RE the ones full of it. it’s just not fair! why do people have to lie?!
Two steps forward and two steps back. It must truely be a generational thing. I’m a 28 year old college graduate. My twin sister and I both smoke pot on a daily basis yet our mother, (who is similar in age to Mr. Webb) sees marijuana as completely taboo and refuses to even examine that maybe it isn’t quite as bad as she’s been led to believe by the US propaganda machine. It is this mind numbing behavior (no pun intended) that infuriates me to no end. The ONLY thing that I dislike about pot is the act of having to buy it. I live in Texas where it is still the equivelant of rape or murder to the judicial system if you want to get high. Please end this childish game of control, medical or otherwise it just doesn’t matter. I’m going to get high whether or not Jim Webb or any of the other control nazis want me to or not.
Alcohol is 5 Times Deadlier than All Illegal Drugs Combined / DEA are Real American Terrorists!
Prison Reform NEEDS TO Seriously Consider Legalizing Cannabis! This is really a matter of American Constitutional Rights and Simple Basic Human Rights.
Total Alcohol and Tobacco Deaths per Year (U.S. Only): 520,000 deaths – over one-half million dead Americans.
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect Deaths per Year (U.S. Only): 17,000 deaths.
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect (yes, this would include Methamphetamines, Cocaine, Crack, Heroin, etc. – all hard drugs and soft drugs – all illegal drugs) deaths compared to the annual deaths caused just by Alcohol and Tobacco = 0.03269. This means that all illegal drug use put together is less than 03.27% as harmful as Alcohol and Tobacco use. Wow!
Deaths per year caused by the two legal drugs, Alcohol and Tobacco, are over 30 times more than all illegal drugs combined! Even with 30 times the total number of hard drug users in the U.S. the death rate would still be lower than the annual U.S. Alcohol and Tobacco death rate!
Now let’s look at just the deaths due to Alcohol: 85,000 deaths. 17,000 (All illegal drugs) / 85,000 (Alcohol) = 0.2. This means that all illegal drug use combined is only 20% as harmful as Alcohol use. So – Alcohol accounts for 5 times more deaths per year than all illegal drugs combined! Wow again! – Put that in your beer mug and drink it!
So when you hear a Drug Warrior (such as John Walters) say that “Legalizing Cannabis sends the Wrong Message to our children” – “The Message” that they are really telling our children is that (when the children reach legal age) they will NOT be allowed to use a safe recreational drug like Cannabis but they Will be allowed to use Alcohol as a recreational drug, even though legal alcohol kills 5 times more people per year than Methamphetamines, Cocaine, Crack, Heroin and all of the worst illegal drugs combined!
Now let’s look at Cannabis.
For those who do not know, Cannabis is the genus name for the very common plant that Harry Anslinger called “Marijuana”, so that he could confuse/trick the public into thinking that Cannabis was some new type of dangerous drug as well as to use racism in quest for criminalization back in the 30’s. (I refuse to use Harry Anslinger’s derogatory terminology)
Total Cannabis Deaths throughout All of Recorded History (Worldwide): 0!!!. Usage of Cannabis (Marijuana) has never killed anybody – ever!
Hmm, we can’t even get a percentage of Cannabis Deaths (0) compared to Alcohol and Tobacco Deaths (85,000) since Cannabis has never ever killed anybody can we?
So – Alcohol and Tobacco kill over a half million Americans in one year and Cannabis has never killed anybody (in the whole world – ever), yet we allow the U.S. Government to support the Alcohol and Tobacco industry while they arrest us, put us in cages and steal our homes/cars/money for using Cannabis – a safe alternative to Alcohol?
The Pharmaceutical Industry also “pushes” many extremely deadly poisons that could easily be replaced by Cannabis and Cannabis Derived Drugs. “Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs” kill around twice as many people per year as “All Illicit Drug Use Combined” – and that Cannabis use has never killed anyone!
I wonder how many people die yearly from Alcohol and Tobacco who would prefer Cannabis instead? Cannabis is a completely safe alternative to Alcohol. Alcohol almost killed me. I would love to use Cannabis as a substitute for the deadly drug Alcohol! The problem is that I live in a country where Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness is NOT possible – I live in the United States of America – Freedom is NOT an option here. The American public is completely terrorized by the U.S. DEA.
Terrorism is, most simply, policy intended to intimidate or cause terror. It is more commonly understood as an act which (1) is intended to create fear (terror), (2) is perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a materialistic goal or a lone attack), and (3) deliberately targets (or disregards the safety of) non-combatants. (Wikipedia)
Therefore, the U.S. DEA, who break into peoples homes, incarcerate people for exercising their Constitutional Freedom to use Cannabis as a safe alternative to Alcohol (or even as medicine), revoke student aids, separate families, cost people their jobs, take their driving privileges, take their homes, take their right to vote, and kill family pets, are indeed Terrorists! We need our government to dismantle the U.S. supported and funded American Terrorism Group also known as the U.S. DEA. We the People are PAYING for our own Terrorization with our own taxes!
The U.S. – with 5% of the world’s population – cages 25% of the world’s population caged population. Many of the people who are kept in cages should not be. Many people who are forced to live in cages and suffer the brutality of the American Prison System are otherwise law abiding citizens who have simply exercised their Constitutional Right of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Legalize Cannabis Now!
you can bet that even tho walters is retired he still has lots of buddys whose incomes depend on drugs being kept illegal. as this movement gains strength it is my prediction we will see some really outlandish shenanigans from the likes of the dea, cia, big pharma etc. etc. ad nauseum. they will not give up their money or their power without a fight.
Lets ‘debunk’ the shit out of all the people opposing cannabis legalization for there own personal issues or beliefs
I find these types of segments frustrating. I cannot for a moment comprehend this man’s ability to lie bold face to everyone. I suppose it could be argued that he actually believes his own propaganda – but at any rate, why does the media perpetuate this crap? The segment CNN ran prior to the false debate took the California Governor somewhat out of context eluding to the idea that he may be for Legalization as well (which his uncut speech would say otherwise). I suggest to you that CNN is molding the news to simply fit their viewpoint (or at least one that gets ratings). It’s bad to run 7 min “debates” after a 10 second segment. Our big media has gone the way of ADHD which allows them to easily manipulate the message broadcasted. These guys are on nearly 24/7 – why are the in such a hurry – it isn’t like they report the news or anything!?
if they arnet putting pot offenders in jail anyway then why waste the time and effort arresting them…?
Hearing that former Bush puppet was absolutely infuriating! I pray that most Americans can see through all that BS. I wish the other guy had called him out on it more. They were debating marijuana and he was trying to say more people go to rehab for marijuana(and meth, herion, speed, {the stuff he didnt mention}) than alcohol!! Do these people know they are lieing?!
I want/need a forum to debate these people.
Support no politician who is against marijuana
John Walters is a sick and twisted individual. How one person could go around hurting so many people with his words is beyond me. It really takes a sick person to do what he does.
That guy needs some serious help.
4 ounces of beer to 8 ounces of jack daniels…really? those sallys are getting desperate and sounding more and more ridiculous.
Haha! The truth!
Gil Kerlikowske, the new Director of the ONDCP (I refuse to use the term Drug Czar) has just been confirmed and a real well written and to the point “Open Letter” has been posted at Huffington Post by his predecessor and well spoken member of LEAP, former Seattle Police Chief Norm Stamper.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/norm-stamper/open-letter-to-the-new-
Also on DemocracyNow! this morning Amy Goodman told her audience that a new Zogby Poll now shows that 52% of ALL Americans feel that cannabis should be legalized and fairly taxed. Just think how big this number could be if people were told the truth by the mass media in our country!
I’d like to urge all who are interested in cannabis reform to contact their legislators and urge them politely to get on board and make this happen.
We have wasted over one trillion dollars, incarcerated over 20 million people and all the while fed the drug cartels to a point where they now pose a threat to us.
I have provided links at my website to all 50 State Legislatures and the DC Council. There are also two pdf’s at the below page that you can download with the phone numbers and addresses to all federal legislators. That information can be found here.
http://tiptopwebsite.com/websites/index2.php?username=busgreg&page=100
Man, how many anslingers were slung there? Walters spewed so many anslingers I have to wipe ’em off my face.
The x-drug czar is just that! He is the X! He is the one who don’t know the facts. What people don’t know is the alcohol industry will help suppport campaigns to buy into a politician not to support cannabis because the use of alcohol will decline.
True Fact! Amsterdam is a big beta test for the rest of the world. Make note everyone!!! There is a decrease of smokers since their prohibition was lifted.
Does he use alcohol for medicinal purposes? I AM SURE HE DOES. So we can use our medicinal cannabis as well. PERIOD
Time given th Walters to spew anslingers: 3:18-4:02, 4:38-5:47, & 6:32-7:34 , total 175 seconds.
Time given to Miron to speak the truth: 4:07-4:33 5:52-6:21 7:37-7:59, or 77 sec.
What message does this send to the children? I’ll tell you: “It’s OK for your government to lie to you and use your tax dollars to do it.”
Hell: I could have told you that eight years ago! How about CNN’s Anderson Cooper for giving his a pulpit? Demand that CNN give NORML equal if not MORE time than Wonk Walters!
Shut the fuck up you stupid fuck head, John Walters is so uptight I bet when he gets home at night he locks himself in his bedroom, puts on his wife’s clothes and fires up a fat joint while parading around like a peacock. On a side note I think he really believes the bullshit that spews from his mouth.
YOU CAN DO ITTTT!
RIP HIS FREAKING B@LLS OFF 😀
im all for a public debunking of the phallicy that is prohibition ;]
The most amazing thing about this interview was Walters’ tone throughout. He actually believes everything that he’s saying is true! This is why it is impossible to have an intelligent conversation with prohibitionists. The reasons they have for their views are either grounded in faulty reasoning or they lack/distort factual information to support their views.
I’m actually really glad to see this kind of thing, because as usual with prohibitionists (especially John Walters), the arguments against legalization were full of absolute non-factual crap, but fortunately in this instance there was someone there to say that the arguments were essentially, as previously stated, complete crap.
The old tired BS prohibitionists have been using for years is starting to wear thin and get called into question, soon enough people are going to realize what’s really going on and this ridiculous charade will finally come to an end.
Walters is so full of shit it makes me sick. I just don’t understand why people can’t understand the FACTS!
I just don’t get how people can continue to ignore the facts and continue to spread thie rhetoric.
John Walters is a lying piece of shit. Why is this asshole still getting camera time…
Why am I not surprised? It must be hard to accept the fact that your legacy will be a collection of lies and misrepresentations that brought great harm to the American people.
Having said that, I look forward to the debate. Do States still have the right to debate an issue without the blessings of the Federal Government? Will the prohibitionists show up to the debate? Will they finally show us the crystal ball they use to fortell the massive damage to society cannibis legalization will bring?
Better yet, will they explain why they support a prohibition that was spawned by racist propaganda perhaps while the sitting U.S. President stands in the shadow of a white woman? Will they explain why they constantly have to amend and defend their stance on cannabis prohibition? Will they explain why they disagree with, and apparently know better than, the Schaffer Commission? Finally, perhaps they will explain what part of “freedom” they don’t understand.
If they can answer any of those questions to my satisfaction, I will switch sides… but they don’t get to use the crystal ball… only facts.
people could talk or debate about this for years and years…. oh wait they have!!! its all boils down to one hard statement. if you havent tried it then we dont want to hear your opinion. if youve ever been stupidly drunk one night and wake up the next day with massive hangovers, then why continue to drink? is it because your over 21 and can buy it legally? or is it becuase you would rather destroy your liver and loved ones by becoming an alcoholic rather than smoke a joint and sleep like a baby not feeling any reprocustions the next day. stay strong america.
We have hit a nerve guys and gals! The Pro Prohibition people all over the news spreading lies, talking over our people, dismissing our facts as false and using fear tactics again! We better be getting the truth out even more, speaking to anyone that will listen! We have to fight these lies and demand proof of their statements!
We are on our way but we have to get everyone involved, I mean everyone, the time is now! Grab those buddies, even surrounding people you may not know too well, just know they smoke, or have a more liberal view, it’s their fight too! Tell them to write an email, letter or call legislators! Keep the flame to their feet they will have to jump sometime!
I think this clip is great, he almost looks like he knows his BS wont work, California, OMG he got blasted about the increase that he thinks is happening and it blew open his Violence point! That was great!
This guy is consistent everything he says is bull shit..
Can I also just add that I LOVE JEFFREY MIRON. He rules!
He’s so well spoken and educated on the subject. We need him to take part in the California debate. I sincerely hope he’s a part of that in some manner.
The prohibitionists are trodding out all the old drug-czars. The newspaper in Lancaster, Pennsylvania had an anti-medical marijuana editorial in it May 7 this year by DuPont. (C’est merde, Du Merde.) This Harvard guy is right on. I hope someone with the time and debating skills writes an opinion piece in favor of it for my local rag to publish, and bait them for a public debate at Millersville or Franklin & Marshall.
Why is Walters a idiot and say false information. Every thing he says information to back it up
When this chapter is finally over, our national drug policy returns closer to sanity, our children are more safe from criminal drug pushers and our Constitutional liberties and freedoms at least somewhat restored, there will come a day I personally dread. Despite their horrific crimes against humanity, I must forgive paohibitionists. For me, God knows this is going to be damn hard to do.
I watched it last night. I tried to stay up for the feedback, but it never came. John Walters was truly laughable. They are having to work really hard to come up with any compelling arguments about maintaining prohibition and it’s obvious that they’re straining. i liked that AC gave Jeffery Miron the last word.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Paul, My man! They should have you up there telling them how it is.
This was great news, thanks man, really made my day.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Paul Armentano, can we get you on CNN or in these debates, or at least educate the pro cannabis camp on how to debunk the reefer madness ? Paul you do a great job at refuting the other sides propaganda and misrepresentions, that I would love to see you there debating Mr. Walters. I nominate you for the public debates Schwarzenegger is calling for. Mr. Miron is good too, its just he needs to know how to debunk the lies line by line ! Could you talk to him ?
Wow, when will the hypocrisy end!? Now that Walters is out of the government’s pocket, I wonder if the alcohol and tobacco giants have stepped in to sign his paycheck.
I’m so sick of these 80 year old men telling me what I can and can’t put in my body. Like literally, this crap makes me sick to think there are people out there who truely believe they can tell me what I can and can’t do with my own friggin life.
Wheres my lighter, I’m going downstairs to my garden.
Whoa, how bout I be Andrew2 and you be Andrew1, lol.
That drug czar makes me sick! I have several illnesses that weed is proven to help with, call it self medication but since I have started smoking I have not had any issues with them. Weed has changed my life for the better in a major way, my illnesses kept me from holding down a job or going to school, or doing anything with my life for that matter. The myth that weed makes you counterproductive is BS because I am living prove that it is I have accomplished soooo much more since I discovered the amazing plant. I now cannot imagine my life without my beloved lover mary jane. To think that I am equated with serial killers as a criminal makes me want to start killing people starting with this drug czar fucker. Follow my logic? Also as an artist this weed is where I get my inspiration for my work. I cannot tell you how much I am anticipating my favorite thing on the planet getting legalized. To one up a quote from Pineapple Express “If weed is not legalized within five years I will be DISGUSTED with humanity.” Sorry for rambling people I am simply a very very frustrated stoner.
Michael Hall
the only time that i get mad is when i hear former public officals, you were paid with my tax dollars, spouting shit from their pie hole. If i lied like that at work, i would be fired and i would not be invited on CNN for an interview.
for that idiot ex drug czar to make up bs about it makes people more violent, get outta here, when I use to smoke it made me happy and feel like a million bucks, I was nicer to everyone, too happy to be violent. The idiots that are for prohibition must have a hand in dealing with the drugs and getting money from it. Like the professor said, if California has so many dispensaries, where is the surge in violence? NONE
man that guys a dumbass. its a PLANT NOT a DRUG. so DRUGS should be illegal but NOT MARIJUANA because IT IS A PLANT!!!!!!! get it straight you dumb politicians.
What a chuffnut. I would almost be offended, but then I realize that Walters is a nutjob with the IQ equivalent to the sole of my shoe. I personally know over five people that have been inprisioned over simple posession. I seem to recall him owing me a steak dinner lol. But ok, here the catch, even if they aren’t imprisioned for it, and put on probation, that is for the FIRST time, and can be anywhere from a misdemeaner to a felony. And they follow you for the rest of your life, making it hard to find a job, or be trusted anywhere. That felony can destroy a persons life. The penalty is much more potent than pot itself. Mr. Walters, take a long walk off a short dock, I am not violent, and I am not a criminal, and what I chose to put into my lungs is none of your concern. Maybe you should worry about how silly you sound rather than what NON VIOLENT people are doing in the privacy of their own homes.
Man Walters pisses me off. To no end.
FUCK JOHN WALTERS
He iS A BIG FAT LiAR!!!!!!!!
FUCK JOHN WALTERS
It’s not a generational thing. It’s a voting thing. Until we all get behind pro-reform congressional candidates with our dollars and votes and we all deny same to prohibitionist congressional candidates, NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. All the debates, all the commissions, all the special studies, all the demonstrations, all the commercials, all the facts, don’t mean squat in this country. When politicians are punished at the polls for supporting WOD you’ll see less WOD. While we’re talking about writing on dollar bills the prohibitionist are sending dollar bills to your congressman. Make no mistake that drumbeat for reform is a call to arms for the prohibitionist, and they DO know the ropes. The 2010 congressional elections will probably be the most important event in the MJ reform movement since 1978.
I’d like to think we’re not going to blow it again.
John Walters: “I work for the government, even though the citizens of the United States pay my salary and the governments wages we don’t trust them at all”
Jefferey: “Don’t listen to John, he is an evil, evil human being that deserves to get run over by a semi truck”
John Walters: “I am just going to repeat the same things over and over even though most of the U.S. knows better, and when I get home I’m gonna laugh at all of you while having a jack daniels and coke that was paid for by you”
Jefferey: “How about we roll this fag up and smoke him like a joint?”
Point being: John Walters, how much are you really getting paid to spit out the same propaganda we all have heard over and over for the last 75 years?
I think it is time to start demanding investigations on these guys to uncover how corrupt they really are.
Walters is an Idiot
Where’s our compensation for drug war crimes against Americans? If facts are not correct in their delivery, that’s a lie, or did I miss something in Sunday School? The destruction of an era has come to an end in fine sight of the world in California and States with simular laws. Think how a lot of stupid people are going to feel to find out all the lies are punishable war crimes. Purposely leading people astray as a figure of authority is incomprehensibly a big mistake but let’s keep letting people like Walters think it’s OK to keep running their self incriminating little mouths,it’s all on tape.
The Whole reason they find marijuana in people who commit violent crime is not cause of the marijuana. Its the person first of all and second, The person commiting the crime is rebelious and marijuana is just part of his life. It’s the same thing over and over. So stupid just because the find marijuana in someones system that commits a violent crime is not because he was on drugs its because hes an idiot. Its just another stupid excuse to build up more lies. Shut up Walters your so f@#king stupid.
i cannot wait to see more of this debate….John Walters is making a complete ass of himself…. Save the Economy, Legalize Marijuana myspace.com/stelm
He killed him with that last statement. Great job by the Harvard professor on that debate. Very professional and to the point.
NO MATTER WHAT IM ALWAYS GONNA BE SMOKIN LALA
AND HAVE FOR THE LAST 9YRS AND IM 22 IN COLLEGE AND ABOUT TO START MY LEGIT BUSINESS!
I ca’t believe there are still ppeople who believe all the shit walters does. Its just sad. if you live in NH join “Change Marijuana Laws in New Hampshire” on facebook if you want to see real change.
http://apps.facebook.com/causes/241102/14062168?m=1a240be5
God almighty I fucking hate that man by the name who calls himself John Walters….I wanna punch him in his arrogant stumbly fucking mouth. Miron demonstrated every one of his points…walters just told his same old bullshit. Telling us rather than showing and E-L-A-B-O-R-A-T-I-N-G. He’ll die off soon enough at least. Ugh…needed to vent after watching him.
Walters?? I hardly recognized him… he looked bad, bloated. After seeing the video, I sure that pot will be legal in California soon. The warriors have only lies and everyone can see through them. They are doing something to marijuana like the government is doing to UFOs, what is the mystery that scares them? Maybe Mexico can calm down and make a lot of money too? Not your “father’s marijuana”? I wish I could legally buy ‘everclear’ kind bud for a trip inside my comfortable pad on a rainy day, and easily get my hands on weak stuff to carry me through the day as a safer alternative to tobacco, with a high instead of low. When people prove cannabis not only safer, but enhances your vision. This is better than diet soda. This is a product that is fun and also inspires you, at the same time reduces pain and helps you appreciate food.
Imagine if pot were legal and people had a controlled choice of safe product? I would give anything for a CONTROLLED legal cannabis market, where profits stayed out of criminality. That is the way to solve this crime. The smart thing is for the government to regulate, that is to engage in the legal distribution of cannabis.
If we keep talking, along with TV and people like Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Michael Phelps, people will see why the Beatles smoked pot and Carl Sagen for good reason. For the CREATIVE BENEFITS! The people who hate psychedelics are people who hate to face themselves. Pot can trip you into looking at the truth, however scary.
But for the sound and creative, marijuana experience can be a relative. Someone high on pot is actually medicating more than someone who is say drinking alcohol, especially if one can do better at snowboarding and video games.
Norml should do a study on the benefits of the marijuana experience. The benefits to being creative and introspective meditation. This might sound crazy but I think that people who consume psychedelics are sending their consciousness into warp (like a time shift for one example, etc.,). This is very interesting and why pot is not legal ALREADY in my humble opinion!
Stoners are mountain bikers, poets, scientists, actors, musicians, and skiers, the best at video games and a new kind of breed of people. People who smoke pot do to face themselves and then become enhanced because they are surfing the potentials of different realities. Now that is what it is like to be stoned.
The fact is not only is pot much safer than alcohol and tobacco, it can also act as body medicine and expand the consciousness into enlarging your world of thoughts. In other words a good thing if he are writing a song, or swimming, or watching a movie, playing a video game, or simply eating a gallon of ice cream. To be stoned is to see a larger reality! This is almost as good as a fountain of youth if you want to dwell on seeing a mountain to say board.
Good luck without it… see ya in the future!!!
This is off subject but I thought everyone might like to know we have an unusual alie, the Montana legislature. Who has just passed a law exempting guns made and sold in Montana form federal gun laws.
So what you ask?
Well this law seeks to restore state’s rights as they were known before the supreme court gave the federal government the ability to control every aspect of our lives though a claim of regulating interstate commerce.
Still don’t get it?
The Federal government’s war on drugs hinges on a claim of regulating interstate commerce. If the Montana law is successful if will also severely damage the the feds ability to prosecute a war the drugs. People in any state that legalizes weed or other drugs will be free of federal prosecution as long as their activity is limited to their state.
Not free because the fed are looking the other way but because federal law will not apply.
Wait it gets better!
If the court finds in favor of the Montana law. many thousands of people in federal prisons may have to be set free as their convictions would be unconstitutional.
Texas republicans are also pushing a similar law. If there was ever a time to support the whole tea party crowd it’s now!
i cant wait until we leagalize marijuana so i can just walk right on up to john walters and take a nice healthy hit off the bong and blow it right in his lying face lol
Jesus Christ almighty I seriously want to punch that fucking man, John Walters in his stumbling arrogant ass mouth. Still repeating the same Reefer madness BS with a twist. He NEVER goes into a thing I call E-L-A-B-O-R-A-T-I-O-N. Miron dominated that entire segment. Walters is the last of a dying breed. He will soon leave this world at which point I’ll rejoice and smoke a smooth, enticing blend of some nice indica haha. One thing I wish Miron would point out is that if you look at the Shaffer Report commissioned under the nixon admin. and if you know anything about pot, you’ll realizee they’re telling the real truth! Which might I add, the same (and one of the most disgraceful) admin., that created the DEA and this asinine war.
Woops, just realized it posted once. Sorry.
I WAS ARRESTED IN 2008 IT COST ME 15000.00 AND ONE YEAR OF PROBATION AND HAD TO DO DRUG REHAB FOR CANNABIS AND IT WAS A COURT MANDATE AND I WAS GROWING JUST 12 PLANTS FOR MY OWEN PERSONEL USE FOR NECK AND BACK PAIN FROM BEING HIT IN THE HEAD BY A TRAKEHOE SO NOW I HALF TO EAT PAINKILLERS WHITCH IS MORE HARMFUL THAN CANNABIS SO JOHN WALTERS CAN KISS MY ASS.
Just watching that video with walters makes me
sick. HE just randomly spews falsehoods out of his mouth. To attribute marijuana to violence is absurd.
I cannot believe how ignorent some people are and blinded by their own harsh misconceptions of the truth. God gave the world the cannabis plant.
It helps some people. If God didnt want it to be here
on this earth than it wouldnt be hear treating
people with Cancer, HIV/AIDS, pain, etc!
To demonize a harmless herb that helps millions of
people every day is a crime in itself. One
points a finger at a harmless plant, not
realizing that the crime associated with
such cannabis is because of the nature of the
black market it self. Only criminals can sell
it,
using cannabis makes you a criminal.
But yet 14 million americans smoke cannabis.
that makes some 5% or so of our population a
pure criminal on the sheer fact that you use
cannabis.
I guess we are all criminals.
*rant notice*
I’m sick of these w.a.s.p pussies. There is nothing that these anti-mrijuana lobbiests can say that isn’t already happeneing. “Oh crime will rise” wtf, remember prohibition? “Behavior would be made worse” How could it possibly be any worse than it is right now. I bet you that if these maniacs who slaughter their families and then themselves would smoke marijuana rather than take ssri/prozac/alcohol/hardcores, there would be less of these violent nonsensical crimes occuring.
I’m sick of “drug opponents”. What a hypocritical situation. You cannot smoke a flower or a leaf, but rather the government wants you to ingest potential poisons called pharmaceuticals that have much worse side effects than smoking a joint. Hell, some of the “legally prescribed medications” have the potential side effect of death! No one has ever died from smoking marijuana itself. So…what the hell?
“Marijuana is stronger now than ever” big flippin deal, pussy talk man. And trying to compare it to beer and liquor is rediculous it’s a totally different substance. And who the hell needs more starbucks anyways, I don’t even like coffee.
Legalize to end the suffering of the world. Enough is enough.
P.S. John Walters needs to light up and stop being a square loser. You can’t fix the world John!!! You can only deal with it!
Y jus California all the time I thought we r the United States………..
I thought John Walters mounted a UNICORN and left for NEVER NEVER LAND never to return. From fantasy back to reality again, some people don’t know when to stay out of the BIG PICTURE. A MARIJUANA PROHIBITIONIST TO THE END. No wonder why there is so much chaos in this country, ORWELLIAN MENTALITY still on the loose.
Seriously? He never offered any proof for anything he said. He is so full of shit!
You guys really need to get those TV ads going.
That is right, they are from the old school!
You know, I am almost his age and I think he is atill trying to be of power. His voice does show that he really believes what he is saying. I keep up, what is his problem, He is Demented! Old Codger, die out.
THe other guy speaks of Marijuana dependency…WHAT!?
I’ve never heard of this, marijuana has virtually no withdrawal symptoms…This is what pro-regulation should be focusing on
And someone, preferably the person who wrote the blog send the falsely claims part to the Con guy.
Walters is an old school god fearing christian tool (absolutely no offense to the christian community at all, however he does take it a step WAY too far). He makes totally disgusted.
honestly john walters is an idiot. he has not studied any economics. he has not studied any ethics.
800,000 arrests per year for cannabis. how many wasted man hours is this by our police & DEA pursuing HUMANS WHO WANT TO CONSUME A FLOWER OF A WEED. we don’t often use the LEAVES ARNIE. but we would with hemp.
EDUCATE YOURSELVES on the herb.
people will most likely consume more cannabis and less alcohol once it is legalized. this will result in less violence.
nobody is pulling a gun to your heads to smoke the herb peops who are so uptight against it. quit preaching your morals. we are moving rapidly towards a more open and free society of ideas and the time is well upon us …
TO END THE PROHIBITION ON CANNABIS AND HEMP.
Great idea Davinici, i would love to see Paul actually get national or at least california primetime education on the issues of cannabis and hemp. it would be great if ARNY could be there and answer why he vetoed californians right to grow INDUSTRIAL HEMP an plant that has never harmed anyone and has thousands of quality uses.? could he actually sit still for 5 minutes and be educated on the origins of this atrocious prohibition?
please can we hear from anyone who wants to keep this prohibition alive pose some actual evidence?
it is the DEA, our prisons, & our cops that are addicted to the CASH/taxpayer dollars they get from this innocent plants prohibition. it is nauseating to watch them perpetuate these lies to keep getting their fix.
free the weeds, both cannabis & hemp, and free the people!
i forgot to mention the rehab clinics too are addicted to the cash for rehabing marijuana consumers who actually don’t have a problem with the flowers and are their against their will.
defund 60% of our drug cartels profits RIGHT NOW by ending the tragic prohibition on cannabis and hemp across the americas. thats a hell of alot less guns heading south of our border. is smith & wesson & rivals or even wal-mart who sells all those bullets actually in on keeping the herb illegal?
please everyone who hasn’t done so already create and account and sign up for a couple actions…
http://www.change.org/ideas/view/legalize_the_medicinal_
and_recreational_use_of_marijuana
and
http://criminaljustice.change.org/actions/view/legalize_marijuana
I think this whole thing smells of desparation, I truly think these Pro Prohibition people are crapping in their pants! They are scared and they have reverted back to lies.
That said, the more I watch this, I really wonder why Anderson didnt jump all over the Violence and usage lies! Those both can be proven wrong with the date we have from all the states adn countrys tha thave some sort of Decrim law!
Media needs to step in and call these guys out, stop letting them pass lies off as the truth! they know dam well they are lying yet they dont even say, boo!
Start calling and writting these news stations and demand they call these lies out! I wrote to AC360 and told him he needs to speek up and call people on lies. however I do believe people are smarter now and will not fall for these lies as they have in the past! But keep up the truth and we will win this!
more potencey ok takes smaller doses and all of us middle age stoners know “dont smoke dope when your stoned, you dont get any higher, just lower on dope” gallagher. GO MAINE ty citizens of maine
Our best defense against people like John Walters is the truth. We need to continue to meet these lies with facts, expose the greed and manipulation for what it is and just keep beating the drum louder and louder!
We only need to achieve critical mass and we are almost there. That’s when enough people know the truth that the tide turns in our favor, like the domino effect.
To you folks who just want to slap the piss out of John Walters, I sympathize with you but let’s rise above that because there has already been too much violence propogated by our government surrounding this plant.
Rant #2…..
Its silly, I personally know, that if I am high, I am too layed back and in too good of a mood to be violent. Anyone who smokes it could attribute to that fact. You could halt wars by setting off massive reefer bombs for crying out loud. The only percentage of people that Walters may influence are people who have never smoked, or been around pot. And those numbers are dwindling. I know plenty of people who have no desire for it want to see it legalized. Walters and people like him can never elaborate, nor justify what they say. They will pick one “expert opinion” (key word-OPINION) to go by while denying ever seeing facts. There is a major gap between fact and opinion. I love when the reporter told walters “you just defeted your own arguement”. OF course he did, they always do and are too ignorant to see it. Walters is another fault line in this earthquake, got to find the epicenter of it. Our own consitution is written on HEMP paper, the very thing they swear to uphold but yet never do. Ultimately, it is up to us as voters to rid of them. Were the ones with the power over their jobs. Were the ones that have to step up to the plate and make it happen, or we can continue to debate with them. Get candidates stances on it, get current officials stances on it, and vote from there. But it must happen in every state, or at least the majority. We outrank them, if they don’t shit or get off the pot, they need to be reminded their jobs are in our hands as voters. Represent the people or get out, plain and simple.
Writing eumhamistically, I do not know what planet Mr. John Walters is from, but here on Earth, positions are valid only when they are based on truths derived from relevant, inclusive, objectively verifyable facts. It is obvious Walters is confused, demented, delusional and/or lying.
agreed Beastie.
“The greatest Americans have not been born yet. They are waiting for the past to die.”
Walter is right most marijuana offenders in prison aren’t there just for possession…….Thats only because the Police and even moreso the Fed’s, love to call possessing and Ounce and a Scale, Intent to Distrbute, and manufacturing.
It so laughable. How can one manufacture a PLANT? Im guessing they assume it take a genius to grow weed.
How is this for absurd. Ayahausca is the most potent hallucinagenic drug known to man (DMT), but its legal to buy and possess, but once you want to use it as a drug. ILLEGAL!
I can only hope John Walters gets cancer, and is allergic to presc. meds.
I think this whole fiesco is ridculous. Let’s Legalize HEMP, and stop focusing on Med. Marijuana.
There is absolutly no logical reason to keep Inds. Hemp illegal. Its benefits far outway its “risks”….
the problem is that the media are just like politicians in the sense that they have to be careful not to alienate their viewers who do not support it. they too have the elephant in the bedroom. but as long as we stay active here aswell as at the news station websites they will talk about this in a descent light because it draws attention.
RON PAUL IN 2012.HE IS RUNNING AND THEIR IS OUR CHANCE.OBAMA BELIEVES IN LEGALIZATION,BUT HE DOESNT WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.THATS WHAT I BELIEVE.1 THING THEY KEEP REPEATING IS IF LEGAL THE USAGE WOULD GO UP.THINK BOUT THIS IF YOUR NOT A SMOKER THEN YOU PROBALY ARE NOT GOING TO BECOME ONE JUST BECAUSE ITS LEGAL.THE SMOKERS ARE SMOKING NOW YOU DUMB ASSES.THEY THINK JUST BECAUSE WEED IS ILLEGAL NO ONES GOING TO SMOKE R U KIDDIN ME.PROPS TO MICHAEL DOUGLAS,DREW CARY,HUGHLEY,OLE WILLIE AND ALL THE FAMOUS PEOPLE 4 BEING OPEN AND STANDING UP FOR POT.OK BACK TO THIS DICKLICKER JOHN WALTERS.WHO THE HELL IS THIS RETARD!1ST DICKLICKER JOHN,WHO APPOINTED YOU GOD?2ND MAYBE YOUR THE ONE SMOKING WEED,CAUSE EVERYTHING COMING OUTTA YOUR MOUTH IS PRETTY FUNNY.YOU HAVE NO CLUE JUST ANOTHER LOW LIFE POLITICIAN DOING WHAT THEY DO BEST:lie.OK IF WEED IS MAKES YOU VIOLENT,THEN I MUST BE GETTING BUNK SHIT CAUSE MINE MAKES RELAX IN MY RECLINER WITH A BAG OF CHEETOS. LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY OBAMA,JOHN THE RETARD AND ALL GOVERNMENT WE WILL SMOKE WEED REGARDLESS OF YOUR STUPID ASS LAWS.BEEN SMOKING 4 25YEARS NOW AND DONT PLAN TO QUIT BECAUSE JOHN THE RETARD SAID IT WAS BAD 4 ME.YOUR NOT A SMOKER,EMPLOYED BY THE GOVRNMENT OR MY MOTHER SO TAKE YOUR LIES N SHOVE M N UR PIEHOLE.AND YES IF HE WAS IN FRONT OF ME NOW I WOULD TELL HIM THE SAME DAMN THING.SO TO ALL THE SMOKERS OUT THERE KEEP SMOKING.FIGHT THESE BASTARDS!VOTE RON PAUL 2012.
omg i wish nothing but bad things for the walter peice of shit. seriously i kno corruption and greed r keepin herb illegal cuz pigs, and feds and others can make mad money with prohibition. but i keep thinkin if these ppl truly want to line their pockets coodnt the government make shitloads more money by legalizin and taxin it? greed is a powerful motivater. ppl who hate pot but love money shood even be for legalizaion if they were smart rite?
John Walters is a fucking asshole! hope he dies of a heart attack!
To put things into perspective…
one trillion dollars (plus) has been wasted on the failed drug war. A one dollar bill is 6.375 inches long, so if you do the math and multiply 6.375 inches by one trillion and then divide the result by 12 you get 531 billion 250 million feet and divide that by 5280 you come up with (drumroll please)
100,615,530.3 miles
the money wasted on the drug war if laid out in one dollar bills would make a line..
onehundred million sixhundredfifteen thousand and fivehundredthirty miles long….
According to wikipedia the distance from the earth to the moon (center to center) is 384,403 km or 238,856 miles. That means the dollars wasted on the drug war would stretch from the earth to the moon 261.75 times!
WOW!
more potency would be good less comsuption better quality than the streets sometimes.And rehab for Marijuana then maybe there should be rehab for Tobacco cause those withdrawls r faaaaar worse than Marijuana withdrawls
Legalize Hemp!!! Give the tree’s some relief…
I can’t believe that, even if all of the things Walters was claiming were true (which they aren’t; not even close). How can he sit with a straight face and claim that NO ONE is in jail based on drug possession when my own girlfriend’s brother went to jail for 6 months for two charges of marijuana possession in Louisiana! Way to go Walters- We can all tell you were qualified to intrude on our lives for so many years…
ok, they say there are so many people in rehab for marijuana addiction, more than alcohol. one, alcohol is legal. two, there is no reason for marijuana rehab cause it’s not that we need rehab, the government gives you two options; “jail” or “rehab”. They(government) threaten us to go to rehab, and if we fail to go, then we serve jail time. and so on and so on…………..
can’t stop the media age. the lies will be exposed to the public soon enough! fuck john walters, may he die a horrible death of terminal cancer and aids
you got a professor at Harvard who wants to legalize weed and is debating with this idiot that probably got his GED in high school and graduated from community college.
I have a good friend that is 80 years old and a retired state policeman. He was a law enforcement officer back in the 60s and 70s and he told me today that he is all for the legalization of marijuana. He was totally against the ideal until I had a long talk with him about all the different aspects of the issue and so he changed his mind. If we can get the word out to these people that just don’t know the truth because of years of untruths and lies then it will be easy to get the approval rating closer to 100% then ever.
We have got to keep the pressure on and we will finally get what we all want Marijuana for all that want it. That day is coming the people have spoken.
I have looked and looked for information about this being a scam.. and below is what I found about it. I plan on calling the number as soon as I am finished typing this responce..
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I was just given a number to call by a fellow smoker saying it was a poll for legalization. I was a little skeptical but after doing a bit of research on the matter, found out it was a legit poll to be given to Obama once it hits the one million mark.
For those of you in the states, give 973-409-3274 a call and put your vote in.
article is as follows:
Marijuana Phone Poll NOT a Scam, Just Confusing
So let me be the first to say that this all has been much more confusing than I would have ever expected.
To rehash for everyone, the other day I was contacted by a fellow marijuana supporter telling me to call 973-409-3274 to “help legalize marijuana”. I called the number, but something didn’t seem right to me since there was no identification whatsoever for who was conducting this poll. I chose not to vote and, instead, started googling to hopefully figure out who was behind this number.
The first bit of information I found claimed that the number was related/endorsed by Change.org, however, I could not find any information which would support this claim on Change.org’s website. I sent an e-mail off and got a reply from Ben Rattray (founder and CEO of Change.org) who dismissed the claim and denied any endorsement for the number. Update: Change.org has posted its own reply to this confusion.
Some claims made regarding the number said it was a “national census” being conducted, others claimed it was directly related to specific pro-marijuana bills which needed support.
It appeared that there was much mystery/controversy surrounding this combination of digits which made it appear very shady.
Thankfully, though, we have reached the end of this adventure and have finally figured out what exactly this number is, what is is not, and, most importantly, who owns it.
I was up fairly late last night updating this whole escapade with new information, planning to realease a follow-up article to various social networks this morning. Before I could do so, however, I noticed a new twitter message which claimed that it was not a scam and was owned by Humor Hotlines (most famously known for their “reject-hotlines“).
When I checked out their website, I did notice that they had a section for a “Marijuana Legalization Endorsement Line”, but the number was not the same as the one in question.
In this same block of time, I received an e-mail from an intern at RHBrands.com (the apparent owner of Humor Hotlines), saying:
Hello, my name is Michael. I am an intern with RH Brands in Atlanta, Ga. We manage a portfolio of hundreds of humorous hotlines that you may be familiar with such as The Rejection Hotline, Psychiatric Hotline, It Could Always Suck More, and Call to Santa. you can find out more at rejectionhotline.com. Today, I ran across some tweets of yours saying that our Marijuana Legalization Endorsement Line (973-409-3274) is a scam. I just wanted to let you know that we aren’t scamming anyone. All of our numbers are completely free to call, and we fully intend on sending a petition to Washington once we reach 1,000,000+ endorsements. Although most of our services are humor related, this particular line isn’t. Sorry for any confusion. Feel free to contact us with any questions regarding the number, and have a good day.
Finally! Looks like we are making progress…
Through Michael, I was able to get on a phone call with Jeff Goldblatt, President and Founder of RHBrands.com who helped clarify everything.
What appears to have happened is an unfortunate series of events which started with Goldblatt’s company creating a legitimate phone-poll petition in hopes of legitimately presenting it to people in the government through various contacts. RH Brands is not an actual political/advocacy group and has no major connections or affiliation with any political group/person which could ensure something like this would “make it in front of the Preisdent” (as so many messages online made it appear to be), and in Goldblatt’s own words it is a “half-a-step-better” than calling your congressman.
RH Brands did not misrepresent itself, though… it just probably should have represented itself a bit more. Due to the fact that Goldblatt wanted the poll to be taking seriously, he did omit adding “brought to you by Humor Hotlines” and admits that this was–in retrospect–probably not a good decision (as it aided in the confusion).
What appears to have happened is a few rogue users wanted to help spread this phone number so they invented stories to make it seem more legitimate (by claiming it was backed by Change.org, for example). We all know how the game of “telephone” works, and as one person told another and that person told another, the story began to slowly evolve into the various ones currently seen throughout the internet.
So let me break it down simply into what this number is and what this number is not:
What this number is:
* This number is one of many numbers created by the novelty-number company Humor Hotlines.
* Unlike other numbers from HH, Goldblatt claims this is a legitimate poll being conducted which he plans to compile and give to various contacts within the government in hopes that it will be presented to Congress and President Barack Obama.
* This number is completely free and has apparently no known risks/fees associated with it outside of normal cell phone charges/minutes used/etc.
* If the number reaches a certain amount of votes (1,000,000), HH has every intention to follow through and send the compiled petition to the government.
What this number is NOT:
* A scam.
* This number has no relation with any political group or marijuana advocacy group.
* Endorsed by any politician, political group, advocacy group, or any person/group in a position of political authority.
* This number has no deadline.
* The number has no more power/authority to legalize marijuana than any other petition created by people online (however, every bit helps).
* Though some have claimed to have received charges after calling this number, it must have been coincidence or confusion because the number does not appear to create any charges (though if you can prove to me it does, feel free to contact me).
So… should you call it? If you want to, yes… there doesn’t appear to be any harm in it and it actually may end up being a good petition. But please do not think that you are directly helping to “legalize marijuana”, and definitely do not tell others it is backed by groups which have no idea what it is.
Honesty is crucial and when people lie to get others to do something–even if they think it is right–things like this happen.
I apologized to Goldblatt for the confusion, however he was very understanding and even admitted that he himself is wary of things that sound “too good to be true” and understands why I was warning others to be cautious. While Humor Hotlines has undoubtedly benefited from the mass confusion regarding their number, it is clear that this is not the fault of Goldblatt’s company… rather, it appears to be the result of some trouble makers online and the ripple-effect of social networking.
I’d like to thank him again for taking the time to clear things up and hopefully now that the mystery is gone surrounding this number people can begin calling it for what it is, rather than calling it under the false-assumption of it being something it is not.
SOURCE: http://www.showmethefacts.org/2009/04/24/marijuana-phone-poll-scam-confusing/#more-600
i am flushing out my system tobecause i need a job. its a drag, however i digress.. Last night i had a few strong drinks. I woke up today feeling like trash. after a week of not smoking and a longer while yet since drinking alcohol, i have come to the conclusion that i dislike alcohol. Dont get me worng I have a few favorite drinks, but honestly if you gave me the choice of a martini or a joint, id pick the joint.
I’m so tired of all this political crap intertwined in marijuana legality! POT ROCKS!!! Not only is it everything we’ve heard (incapable of OD, recreational, medicinal) but it’s also not just for smoking! I’ve been watching all these research videos lately that show all the things cannabis can be used for…I don’t see the valid argument!! FREE THE WEED!!
– Ethan Nadelmann and Jeffrey Miron
are the more credible voices in this news-video.
(They ought to be directing our nation’s drug-policy…)
– Walters, on the other hand, is a bloat-bag of lies!
(An 8-shot Jack Daniel’s® ‘drunk’ would be far more
troublesome to him than a stoner on a spliff of 20-percent THC ‘skunk’ )
And news-anchor Tom Foreman…”re-engineered pot?”
GET REAL!!!
– It’s still weak, feckless, overpriced, contaminated,
filthy, moldy Mexi-Schwag™ for those not fortunate enough to live in Nor-Cal, Oregon or Denver, CO.
– One thing that has been re-engineered, though,
is the means of
pulmonary-intake…herbal-aromaticizers…a.k.a. VAPORIZERS…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporizer
Former Drug Czar…Legalization Debate:
There is another good blog on Huffington Post, Comparing the difference between Arnold Schwarzenegger and President Obama.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-norman/schwarzenegger-is-way-ahe_b_198682.html
Mr.Walters needs to get his math on rehab treatment correct.My mom has worked at a state run alcohol drug rehab and detox for fifteen years,she has never had a patient there because of marijuana.Mr.Walters also needs to remember if you are on parole and required to take a UA and THC is found in your system,you go back to prison and serve time.
Two things I gotta say bout this.
1) These drug warriors are always saying that marijuana causes lazyness and makes you un productive and dosile,then at times they flip and say it makes you violent.
Well, I’ve NEVER seen someone get high ,then get violent unless they are drinking also. It seems to me they are bent on driving people to work them selves to death,also this is America, we can be lazy and unproductive If we wish! Where in the law is it Illegal to do so?
2) These wariors and gov agents KNOW they have a cash cow they can use and abuse at their leisure.
They will suck everything out of this they can. They have NO incentive to do otherwise. Its easier to bust a stoned pot smoker than it is to take on a job like guarding our borders and looking for terrorists here in the USA. Its well known that cops would rather deal with a pot smoker than a drunk, why change a good thing huh?
How bout this. All you religious drug warriors that think marijuana use is immoral,do you think god created things that are bad? Man creates things that are unnatural and bad all the time,like BAD LAWS!
So please continue to ruin the lives of PRODUTIVE people with your laws and justify it in your own way. That I feel is the real immorality.
The day is coming when government will have no choice but to bend to the will of the people on many fronts.
Brent (#79), I also think the liars should be called out. However since the main stream media is not doing it (in general) I think the Regulators in debate with the liars (Prohibitionist) should be doing it. When a prohibitionist lies in a debate the Regulator should tell them to stop lying. When the Prohibitionist says he has proof he is not lying the Regulator should make him name it and where it can be found. At the same time the Regulator should caution the public to scrutinize the words and the source (if the Prohibitionist can even supply one) of said “proof”. The public needs to be skeptical of studies that use words like “may be linked to” and such.
I watched Jesse Ventura spank a Prohibitionist in this manner and it was VERY compelling. Yes he said to the Prohibitionist to “stop lying to us”! The guy just about choked on the call out! It was great!
Listening to Walters talk is ectally why he is an ex,not a currently acting offical.
Where is Mr. Xdrug Czar Walters from anyway,he probably can’t help how he thinks.He was raised that way.:0)
As a long time consumer I beg to differ. Or tell this guy he is a out and out lair. Weed is not stronger today in fact the strongest weed I have ever had was from about 1974. KILLER, have had nothing stronger but the weed today is week week week not stronger where does this guy get his ideas?
First its save the kids now we know legalization and regulation would control this problem like liquor and be better for kids.
Now they want to say its too strong that to is bull shit it still will not kill you. I can go to the local liquor store and buy 150 proof alcohol and drink till I die but this is legal?
You say you still want to put more free law abiding (laws that make sense) Americans in jail to make sure your PAC check clears? It is tyranny plain and simple! No person or lawmker should be able to tell me what I can do in my own home.I would rather die fighting than live in this anti personal freedom era we are struggling to get through
Americans will never respect or conform to a law that was born of racism, perpetuated by greed and supported by lies. Nor should they.
Cherokee Fred Jesus
#106 Paul
I saw that too (Jesse Ventura) tearing that prohibitionist a new one and i loved every bit of it!
Jesse sounded a lot like me except i’m not as big as him and considered more aggressive than him.
I agree with you, why don’t they just call em out on all of there BS already!
There is no way that ass hole Walters will ever come clean. How can he ever justify putting millions and millions of people in prison, and destroying countless lives, if he doesn’t continue to cling to his lies?
I wouldn’t at all be surprised if John boy didn’t own a sizable bit of private prison stock. Someone should examine his true motives for continueing the lies.
Mr.John Walters,
You’re done. You’re through. You’re fired. Shut up and go home..
#1. re; Todays marijuana is far stronger and thus more dangerous than ever before. guess they never heard of hashish (50 % thc)
#2 ghandi said; first they ignore you, then later they ridicule you, then later they fight you, then, finally, you win. they are fighting us now; therefore they can no longer get away with ignoring us or ridiculing us, –we are close to winning !!
#3 proposed language for a state law; cannabis is hereby officially recognised as a medicinally active plant substance like orange juice, blueberries, garlic, olive oil, etc. and will be regulated the same as orange juice, blueberries, garlic, olive oil; (for purity of product only)
#4 weed is the “tree of life for the healing of the nations” mentioned in the bible
#5 these are the same a-holes that think abortion is murder, but it is somehow o.k. to drop bombs on thousands of innocent people to steal their oil or land. -they don’t see the hipocracy at all
I always love hearing the argument that marijuana has been genetically engineard. It is the same thing they do with tobacco and achohal. It’s capitalism at it’s best. Though imagine if it were legal there would be some intense buds out there. The people could just freeley cross breed and create hybrids that sparkled so brightly in the day that you could use them as solar panels. That would be the day.
CANNABIS AND DRIVING
http://www.ccguide.org//driving.php
http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5449
Thinking of this gave me an idea, lets legalize marijuana. So how do we do this… I’ve got it! The good ol’ fashioned Vietnamese way. We will throw all we’ve got until they choke in the the smoke.
It’s simple, all we need is no more then 500 people who love the herb. If only that few were to sit down and light up a blunt all at the same time, what would the police do? If they arrested you, were would they incarcerate you and for this matter what would be the point over a simple misdemeanor. It would over crowed the judicial system and they would have no choice but to decriminalize. So why is this not being done, I’m in South Carolina, who’s down for it?
Also if this were done in multiple states it would be quite effective. Though it could be considered
“terrorist activity” then Homeland Security would get involved and things take a road we do not want to risk. We could simply counter any of that bullshit by arguing “..if this is ‘terrorist activity’ then were the ‘Tea Parties’ (which are a slap in the face to the men of the first tea parties who risked their life to fight true tyranny) also?” As long as it stays peacefully it will stay a misdemeanor.
A simple misdemeanor -which would most likely be thrown out- for a lifetime of the herb, I’m up for it…
We need to march on Washington. Have a three day smoke out. Let’s see them arrest one million of us. They would not know what hit them. Has NORML ever considered organizing something like this? We should march April 20th, 2010.
I’m tired of being treated like a criminal. Pre-drug employment screenings are bullshit. They are specifically designed to trap pot smokers. Most illegal drugs are water soluble and pass through the body in a few days. But pot, as we all know, takes a little longer.
Like Andrew, I’m flushing my system out to get a job. I am a certified teacher who is looking for a job. I got popped last year and it cost me a job opportunity. So what happened? I’ve been a substitute getting work here and there. The state loses out because I am not paying as much in taxes, not buying lots of things, and of course, I’m broke.
I love working with children, have one of my own on the way, and yes, I LIKE TO SMOKE POT! I have to be extremely discrete about my views on pot due to my profession. I wish I could be much more outspoken about it and more of an activist.
They have got us smokers so marginalized that it seems so hard to get mobilized. But we must get organized because the strength is in our numbers, who we are, and what we do. We must show them who we are or we will never be free. We are not losers or lazy. Most of us are otherwise law abiding citizens who wish to partake in a little recreational marijuana use. I just want to be able to get stoned, strum my acoustic, listen to tunes on my porch, and make love to my wife.
I have never met anyone from here, but I know you all. You are my people; we are united under the same cause. We are behind enemy lines. Ask yourself this question: Are we really free tonight? The conversation needs to always be on the tips of our tongues and we must ready ourselves with fact based information. Tell anyone who will listen. Let’s refute their lies and establish our freedom.
Man this dude is a straight up full of Sh*t! 4 years ago I got sentimced for 30 days in jail in williamson county texas for less than .5 grams of pot. It was my first drug charge ever! And before that I had not gotten in trouble in almost 15 years! Norml If ya want the case info just email me. Ill be ya unicorn ya lieing bastard!!
I hope Walters has an unexpected meeting with a drunk driver
That being said, I do not agree with the posters who say that Walters is dumb. He is not dumb, he is corrupt. Dumb you can excuse. Corrupt, well, see my prior post
He is a evil man
It was sickening how many times the ex drug czar contradicted himself and his “facts” in that interview. He clearly lost that debate on marijuana legalization hands down!
This does make me angry, but there is an element of good. People love tearing down liars. The more we educate people the more the drug warriors’ words become our weapons.
Lets use everything they throw at us, and twist around right back on them. We’re starting to make a damn big influence lately. It’s time to give them hell!
#99 Ray…. I dialed that 1-973-409-3274 a few times but never heard the whole message before it hangs up on you..never had a chance to vote. Something is not right there..however I do think its a great idea..but needing a MILLION callers on this before getting this to Obama is not needed..how about 100,000 votes at a time..It is a great idea to keep throwing gas on this fire, step up and let everyone know the TRUTH. The “Drug Czar” makes me think “Velcome to Communist Russia Commrad..now sit down and let us spread more lies” what a lieing piece of crap that SOB is… Keep On Keeping On…the Truth is being found out by many and attitudes are changing..thank you Jesus.
CANNABIS AND DRIVING
http://www.ccguide.org//driving.php
http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5449
This seems to be a big worry with people on the fence. Let’s get this information out there.
You can’t stop the liars from lying. This is the source of their power. You can only work toward the time that the majority of people voting do not believe their shit. Everyone has to be an activist.
What a dope .
Rick: I dont think everyone should be an activist… as cool as that may be, dont get me wrong… we as activist should just spread the truth every possible way. squeeze it in the conversation. i live in north jersey and i commute to NYC constantly and i have my fair share of holding a conversation with strangers.. and you bet i tell them the truth. Hopefully this truth will spread. I expect everyone who is all about reform to do the same. we are at a cusp people. we need to be firm and not ashamed who we are. just dont be a fool and tell a cop all about ur business
example: a hot topic these days is the state of the ecomomy… talk about it then state ur belive that the war on drug is a a disgrace and waist of money. and there u go, thats when u fed them truth
Andrew 3: good post. i agree, discretion should be the model. i have been waiting for a change in this ludicrous law since the 70’s. i feel we are closer than ever, with the possible exception of the Carter administration. be cool. remember, cops ain’t your friends
I’d much rather some of those 100mil alcohol users start smoking weed, it’s much less damaging to themselves, much less dangerous, and you don’t wake up with a huge hangover.
the thing that i see is, yea, when we were kids ,we were out to get as high as possible to have more fun..lol and, i attribute that to trying other stuff and, for me, it was all within reason..even and a young adult, i knew inside when enough was enough and, i would stop the other stuff. now smokin herb has been a great thing. i use it in moderation and recieve benefit from it every day as i am a.d.d. thirty two years now i have used it responsibly. recently my job of thirty years began random testing and ive had to stop. now, its all changing for me.my mind races just like the days of my childhood. i wish people would listen but the bottom line is if they were to smoke as a responible adult, they would see the difference from when they smoked as a kid. it does make a difference. its all in how you look at it and treat it.
just for s@#t’s and giggles, take a look at a document that I just stumbled across. The Politics of Obedience: Discourse of Voluntary Servitude. By Ettiene de la Boetie. You will see what I have been saying we need to do to relieve our Country of this tyranny in disguise that is being perpetrated upon the people of this Country and others. I believe the NWO is fact and we have to resist or be the SLAVES they need and want you to be. PEACE. “GOD” be with You.
we should all be sending comments to AC360.com since they had this guy on. Let them know how full of shit he was. Also who knows if we get enough to email them we could get more time for our cause on the show.
People are ignorant that believe by making a substance legal everyone will use it. I am a 24 year old male , and I choose not to drink alcohol. If marijuana was made legal the same thing would apply. Just because someone sees something is legalized does not mean they are gonna become addicted to it, they probably wont’t even try it.
Haha, look at the look on Walters’ face when the Harvard professor blows him out of the water with that last statement… priceless!!!!
well said Dane.
personal choice is such a wonderful thing.
do not harm others.
Every year that 50k people languish in jail for cannabis “offenses” represents the equivalent of 714 [70 year] human lifetimes obliterated at taxpayer expense.
When does it equate to a holocaust-grade atrocity?
Jeffrey is absolutely correct—-weed is less harmful than the current drugs that are legal.
What people cannot fathom is why would the gov’t be so ignorant to this and keep it illegal. The answer is simple- CORRUPTION! Somewhere is this mess of political bullshit, a person or maybe a group of people are making out like bandits because marijuana is illegal—these profiteers obviously have enough political ties to keep marijuana illeagal so that their cash keeps flowing—-simple corruption–
why should the governmant be making money off of my cannibis. this is bullshit
Thanks Greg W for posting the open letter from Norm Stamper. A real wake up call for mainstream America. Sadly mainstream America will snort at it through their morning coffee and use it to line their bird cages,having already made up their minds about the whole reefer madness deal 73 years ago before many of them were even born! I had up until recently been of the mind that, like science, politics advances one death at a time; a new and refreshed, invigorated politician taking the place of the old regime giving change it’s due course slowly but surely and one day my generation would be in power, the wise would rule and the sick would have their MM. I’m beginning to wonder about that though. I see all the new mini-me’s, carbon copies of the old generations or those who have sold out. This is why I support NORML. This is why I just might give out NORML memberships to the entire family for Christmas!
Johnny boy,you talk so crazy your newest employer should drop a drug test on you.Have a good life Johnny away from me and mine.And towards the end of days when you need relief drop this nonsense, take a toke and know.Peace and Pot.
Johnny boy,you talk so crazy your newest employer should drop a drug test on you.Have a good life Johnny, away from me and mine.And towards the end of days when you want relief,drop this nonsense, take a toke and know.Peace and Pot.
I find it odd that we dont use the media to contradict what is being broadcast to the general public. The people in this country are so intuned to the television and are heavily influenced by the media. It would not be as hard to get the public on our side using the media as it is trying to get the info out thru blogs. USE THE MEDIA AVAILABLE.
John…please….just go lay down and be quiet….
the real reason these clowns keep arguing to keep pot illegal is that the government has created a whole industry by it. their lies are only a cover to keep the public from understanding that the government makes more keeping it illegal. they use it to “steal” anything they want that u have if busted. & think of all the cops & guards that would be out of work if it were ever legal. these are the real reasons to keep it banned, & they’ll never admit it.
Please visit this link.
Federal and State Asset Forfeiture Laws Need Reform
http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/dtd/4321-4049
For some reason this video is not online! YouTube says, “
This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated.”
This is not the first one I encountered! See this page for a link/embed of another important video no longer online!
https://ChristiansAgainstProhibition.org/node/78