Fox News is running an alarmist story today under the outrageous headline, “Marijuana Not Only Gets You High, It Damages Your DNA.”
The ‘news’ story, which several other mainstream media outlets are also promoting, is based on a new British study assessing the effects of, ahem, “calf thymus DNA treated in vitro (in a Petri dish) … with the smoke generated from 1, 5, and 10 cannabis cigarettes.”
Yes, really.
So how did Fox “We report, you decide” News summarize this non-story? Let’s take a look.
What Fox News reported: “Smoking marijuana not only gets you high, but it also alters your DNA.”
What the study actually said: “[T]hese results provide evidence for the DNA damaging potential of cannabis smoke, implying that the consumption of cannabis cigarettes may be detrimental to human health with the possibility to initiate cancer development.”
What Fox News reported: “There have been many studies on the toxicity of tobacco smoke,” researcher Rajinder Singh said in a news release. “Cannabis in contrast has not been so well studied.”
What Fox News didn’t report: From the March 2009 issue of the scientific journal Medicinal Research Reviews, “Research on the chemistry and pharmacology of cannabinoids and endocannabinoids has reached enormous proportions. … [A]pproximately 15,000 articles on Cannabis sativa L. and cannabinoids and over 2,000 articles on endocannabinoids (are available in the scientific literature).”
What Fox News reported: “Singh said cannabis smoke contains 400 compounds including 60 cannabinoids. It also contains 50 percent more carcinogenic polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons including naphthalene, benzanthracene, and benzopyrene, than tobacco smoke, Singh added.”
What Fox News didn’t report: From the November 2007 issue of the scientific journal Clinical Pharmacology & Therapeutics, “Vaporization of marijuana does not result in exposure to combustion gases, … and [was] preferred by most subjects compared to marijuana cigarettes. … The Volcano [vaporizer] device is an effective and apparently safe vehicle for THC delivery, and warrants further investigation in clinical trials of cannabis for medical purposes.”
What Fox News reported: “‘The smoking of 3-4 cannabis cigarettes a day is associated with the same degree of damage to bronchial mucus membranes as 20 or more tobacco cigarettes a day,’ the team wrote in the journal.”
Except for the fact that it isn’t. In fact, here’s what Donald Tashkin of the UCLA David Geffen School of Medicine, Division of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine, had to say about the subject earlier this month in an interview with the McClatchy newspaper chain. (**Note: Dr. Tashkin has performed US-government sponsored studies of marijuana and lung function for over 30 years and is considered to be the United States’ — if not the world’s — foremost expert on the subject.)
“What we found instead was no association (between marijuana smoking and cancer) and even a suggestion of some protective (anti-cancer) effect. … Early on, when our research appeared as if there would be a negative impact on lung health, I was opposed to legalization because I thought it would lead to increased use and that would lead to increased health effects. But at this point, I’d be in favor of legalization (of marijuana). I wouldn’t encourage anybody to smoke any substances. But I don’t think it should be stigmatized as an illegal substance. Tobacco smoking causes far more harm. And in terms of an intoxicant, alcohol causes far more harm.”
Just for the record, in 2006, Tashkin led the largest population case-control study (yes, Dr. Tashkin actually performed research on humans, not ‘calf thymus DNA’) ever to assess the use of marijuana and lung cancer risk. The study, which included more than 2,200 subjects (1,212 cases and 1,040 controls), reported that marijuana smoking was not positively associated with cancers of the lung or upper aerodigestive tract – even among individuals who reported smoking more than 22,000 joints during their lifetime.
Let the folks at Fox put that in their pipe and smoke it.
That’s too complicated, all you gotta say is show me a marijuana only smoker that died from lung cancer or other such complications.
jus more proof tht its a safe thing to do these days
Damn good story tho Normal we r getting close
Legalize it man.
Also, who the hell smokes 3-4 joints a day and by themselves no less? Nobody I know, that’s for damn sure.
That’s a lot of pot!
Someone should set Fox’s news headquarters on fire. Obviously this is a ploy backed up by the extremist w.a.s.p puritans and neo-cons in the government. You know what? So what if it alters your DNA, so does every other fucking thing on this planet. GET OVER YOURSELVES AND STOP TRYING TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO YOU ASSHATS!
I go out in the sun, my DNA changes. I use a cell phone, or get x-rays, or watch tv, or sit in front of the computer…my DNA changes. I eat food, my DNA changes. I take a fucking breath…my DNA changes…
I’m sick of government asshats and their pet scientists decrying that they know it all…
It’s MY BODY……FUCK OFF……..Jesus we’re all going to die painful cancerous deaths from our environment…leave me alone and let me deal with it in my own way you jerk off asshats…..
p.s. cleaning supplies is the real number one killer…
Bush II may have left the White House, but Faux News is still a right-wing mouthpiece run by uber-fascist propagandist Rupert Murdoch.
As Paul illustrates in this article, Faux News lies by distorting or omitting facts.
The Faux News claim above that 3-4 [joints] per day is … equivalent to the damage done by 20 tobacco cigarettes is utter bullshit.
What Faux News doesn’t report: Pot consumers smoke only enough to achieve the desired effect(high).If you smoke 3-4 joints per day, you are smoking bunk-schwag ditchweed. Also, comparing pot and tobacco is the old apples and oranges game. Pot contains THC, tobacco contains nicotine. The former is a cancer retardant, the latter a cancer antagonist.
i honestly do not put any value into any news reported on tv…. they are always extremely biased. The internet is the best source for news, but the problem with that is you need to search for it, and know which sites to trust and which ones are extremely biased. I will be the first to say that smoking marijuana isn’t the healthiest thing you can do, however it is a lot better than alcohol and ciggarettes. There are always 2 sides to almost every statement made on the news, the problem is 1 of those sides almost always tends to be kept in the dark.
can’t win. Everybody who’s uneducated about marijuana hears this on the news and says “omg thats bad, those pro-pot people are stupid for wanting it legal.”
They do not see the positive side or the myths debunked because they do not visit this website. Just need an honest news station to go against fox (or any other [most] news station spewing lies.)
AC360 on CNN has been doing okay with it’s special “America’s High,” but still has anti-pot people come on the show blow out a load crap, and barley lets the pro-pot person speak… I imagine in the end nothing is going to be accomplished in favor of marijuana after the special..
Leave it to the Republican based Fox news channel to continue the propaganda machine and BS…no surprise here! Hopefully,the report CNN is doing all week will help counter this with REAL FACTS!
This is propaganda masked as news. why can’t we ever see positive reports about cannabis? i thought FOX was a left leaning news organization, or is the station only as liberal as the conservative corporation that runs it?
Silly facts are no match for government propaganda.
republican news channel…is there really any surprise here? baptist control freaks at work. once the republican party is finally flushed out of the system then this gonzo gotcha style ‘news’ reporting will become irrelevant. get the republicans out of power and you get rid of the baptists!
Its surprising that Fox news would do such a thing….
my question would be.What interest does Fox news have in marijuana prohibition? Cant they just admit there wrong about marijuana, say im sorry to all the lives the goverment has ruined through prohibtion…And let us move on with our freedom to choose how we choose to relax or medicate…We smoke it anyways, get over it!
Is anyone listening to Faux Noise besides Rush Limburger, Can’t shot straight “Dick” and the Village Idiot from Crawford???
But really, it is sad that still a good number listen to this bull and local media pick up on this garbage. Unfortunately, as long as the Prison Industrial Complex have and other special interest groups control media, it is hard to get a word in edgewise. Remember the minimal time allowed Allen whenn he appeared on CNN with Don Lemon? AC360 is doiung a little better, but too much emphasis and not enough time are allowed to substantiate many of the facts where the majority can see and educate themselves. While we are slowly gaining momentum (52% of us) the debate needs to move more into the evening news and last a bit longer than 7 minutes.
To lay the blame at either conservatives or liberals, either is complicit when it comes to slowing progress, as both parties are indebted to the special interest groups (who have shitloads of cash). What is needed is a house cleaning and we need to throw out the trash when it comes to Washington as well as our communities. There are others, besides repugnants and demodorks, who desesrve a vote. With the current climate with regards to the rest of the mess we are in, this might be the time for a few third party and independent candidates to make it to congress. Maybe with some fresh and untainted candidates progress can be made in congress.
How do I get myself in one of those studies?
and we’re supposed to be surprised by FOX now?
Well thats typical fox news. Fair and balanced my ass.
That is absolutely ridiculous. I am not sure what pisses me off me, Fox reporting that, or the people that will believe it and accept it as fact.
Why do they keep fucken lying to us!!!
Faux news is ridiculous!
Look @ what CNN is doing, and then you have this extremely ignorant news station regurgitating lies.
Put my every cell under a microscope. Do a cat scan on my credit score, my academic record, my work history, my relationships. I challenge anyone to come up with a single way that 35 years of daily pot smoking has harmed me or anyone I come into contact with!
Fox news is so retarded. Makes me wonder if the government provides their scripts for them. To compare
‘calf thymus DNA’ to humans is just bazaar.
It’s too bad we can’t comment on that Fox News article and let them know how full of sh*% they are.
No surprises from Fox News here. I stopped wasting my time and attention on them a long time ago. They’re only “Fair and Balanced” when you tilt your head sideways. In fact, they seem to be the most aggressively biased group of journalists I have ever seen, even more so than CNN. I love how their reporters, whose duty it is to report objectively, frequently launch verbal assaults against people they interview in order to make them look like fools and whatever they stand for to be nonsense. It disgusts me just to watch them; when I was in high school, I took journalism class, and the teacher told us the duties of a journalist, mainly objectivity and fact-reporting. Fox News adheres to neither, and yet they boast that they do (hell, it’s their tagline). It’s amazing they’re still on the air, but I guess as long as you can keep people scared, they’ll keep watching.
Damn, now I’ve gone and gotten aggravated…I’m gonna go get stoned. 😉
FOX news is always talkn shit (added by Mobile using Mippin)
its not surprising that a government run news agency would fabricate evidence to support their claims for continued prohibition.
Sigh. Just more bullshit friends. Hows the ac360 stuff goin? (added by Mobile using Mippin)
Well I consider myself more conservative than liberal, but what the heck!?!? FOX News can lick it. This is their response to Anderson Cooper 360 week special on legalization. This is exactly what I figured would happen. Huge talks about marijuana legalization and some bogus research turns up to set it back another 15-25 years.
Educate and legalize. Job creation and freedom. This is America.
It’s Fox News, what did you expect?
You can throw as many facts and studies in their face as you want and they won’t care.
It alters your DNA! Cool, maybe I can become one of the X-MEN!! 🙂 Fixed news does it again…
Pretty interesting. I’m not surprised that Fox News would screw up in terms of research.
We all know there’s a huge double standard in this country.
Good stuff.
That’s such a shame, particularly considering that “Fair and Balanced” is supposed to be Fox’s mission statement.
Then again, the majority of their viewer demographic are probably those that actually STILL believe the insanely false propaganda about cannabis that has been spewed and regurgitated over the last several decades.
All it would take would be for someone to do a study that drug legalization & taxation would greatly reduce crime and increase tax revenues to help our current financial crisis.
The individual that does this might actually get Fox to do some research and report the other side. . .
We just have to wait for CNN and NBC to learn the slowly learn the painful truth of cannabis prohibition. But they’re slowly finding cracks like last month in a special expose on cannabis I saw on CNBC. The reporter asked a DEA administrator what he thought of how DEA activities could effect the cannabis based economy in Mendocino County California but he compulsively replied that it was “ridiculous” to blame the DEA for the cannabis based economy, which made no sense whatsoever.
I find that whole study to be hilarious. All they proved was that SMOKE contains carcinogens, then they try to imply that marijuana causes cancer, when in reality it isn’t the smoke specifically from marijuana that has carcinogens, but just smoke in general.
I cant see Fox being to popular in the future running this type of garbage. That station is and has to some degree been insulting a good size base of it’s viewers. Screw’em I skip right over their channel. It’s a shame though that in my area they are the Only HD news station. I hardly ever get to use my TV to it’s Fullest potential, but it’s worth it.
I’m wondering if the turd that owns fox is somehow related to Hearst. Dupont,Hearst, Anslinger and Nixon will go down in history as some of the worst Americans to ever live. This kind of utter foolishness is the stuff all of the right wing idiots grab onto and spread like wild fire. You almost have to feel sorry for these dumb asses.Can you imagine going through life being so stupid that you actually believe this pile of shit.
lolFoxNews
its like when sgt. stedanko (aka stacy keach) turned into a lizard in cheech and chongs nice dreams ! what propaganda will be next ? get real and legalize it…. then maybe ill turn into some super soldier for the nwo… lol… but seriously end prohibition !
Gotta love Fox News, reporting fake news since it’s inception. “We report, we decide for you.”
Well, well, well, who can argue with a media that reports and every dumb ass believes everything they say. Non users of MJ don’t have a clue what to believe. This whole media presentation from Fox is nothing more than unchecked reporting. We’re up against Christian self righteous unseen forces that believe there’s no limit to the lies they bring right into the homes of every American watching TV. They think nothing of harming pot smokers.
On the other hand, this may be the last desperate attempts in vain at the end of prohibition by opponents of MJ to do whatever they can to hold us down and control every breath we take each and everyday. These bastards want to hurt us in the most cruelest manner they can conjure up. Fellow pot smokers, if you don’t have the means to move to a State with MJ programs, you may feel like your living in Hell. I wish you all the best, I’ve got to save my own ass and move out of Tennessee. Now, which is the best MJ programs in approved States of MJ?
False
Wow… The battle is on! Truth (NORML) vs. complete B.S. (Fox News)… I just wonder how many people still watch such a horrible channel as fox news.. Hopefully the mindlessness will end soon and We The People will be allowed to responsibly use our medicine/spiritual herb without fear.. Heck, throw away everything about the medicinal/spiritual/personal use of this plant and you’ve got Hemp, which would revolutionize our economy and the way we live.. The truth will set us free! Peace out!
I’m an RN and an avid activist for legalization. Realistically, I think it’s painfully (cough, cough) obvious that inhaling any foreign body or substance into your lungs will have a detrimental effect. I think it should be your own choice, as with cigarettes, if you want to smoke and damage your lungs. Why not take ALL the wind out of prohibitionists sails and we all agree to either vaporize or even better, ingest. I can’t see ANYONE being foolish enough to say ingesting edible would be harmful to your esophagus!!!!
I never liked fox but that network just gets worse and worse and worse.
I think this entire study and fox is full of S@%T! I don’t see any relivance in the outcome of this study due to the fact that all of their evidence they’ve aquired was from calf thymus in vitro.
That’s just like those bastards studies back in the ’40s and ’50s that used monkeys to study on, fed them 5-15 minutes of pot smoke and said it causes brain damage! Well duh! Expose anything to any type of smoke for 5-15 minutes and it’s going to cause damage, if not kill you.
All I know is I had a little more confidence in Fox’s broadcasts and news stories that they air and that all went to pot after hearing the crap they’re putting out there now. Fight for your rights and LEGALIZE IT!!!
“We Report, You Decide.”
The time has come, We the People of Earth have decided and we declare Fox News to be Propaganda against the People’s Right To Pursue Happiness. Fox News has consistently tried to dominate People’s thoughts and lives with their over exaggerated and deceitful, “news”. Day by day they turn against more and more people until they are oppressing the very last freedoms on Earth through their fear campaigns. It is not a media outlet’s place to determine our fate or our freedoms. Fox News consistently has People living in fear that all people are bad and we should trust in republicans to protect us.
No more Fox News, we can not bare any more of your lies.
Just saw AC Cooper and he actually pulled one out of the hat tonight. Not too much negative and Dr. Gupta was very fair. Agreed that there are medical benefits and as a neuro-surgeon he has some credibility. While they didn’t get at all it was a decent report.
Oooops here’s the link to AC 360 Wednesday
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/17/evening-buzz-meet-king-bong/comment-page-1/
By now it should be no secret the mass media, including Fox, is just another tool government uses to indoctrinate the masses. “Reefer Madness” rages on. Of course very health conscious people should not smoke cannabis. They should vape or consume edibiles. But adult citizens in this country freely choose to do and not do a multitude of things, most of which do not violate the freedom and liberty of others, and those things are in compliance with God’s will for human kind as cited in the Constitution of the United States. Ding Dong and Ho Ho porno food causes disasterous health ill effects in this country. What next, the prohibition of the production, distribution, sale and possession of sugar? Prohibitionist violation of God’s will for people to live free in liberty will not go unpunished. Truth is prying the strangle hold of prohibitionists’ spiteful hands from the throats of freedom loving Americans. I am rather poor and not too smart, but my God expects me to do all that I can for what is right. One of the things I try and manage is every time I get even a few bucks ahead, I send some, even if its just a very little, to NORML, MPP and LEAP. I wish I could do more; all freedom loving American patriots deserve it.
USDA fact. DNA testing can tell if you have been eating Organic corn, or even which type of Genitically modified corn was in your breakfast. I wonder what KELLOGS studys show.
I watch fox from time to time,they have some good stuff at times,but I really hate it when they talk about cannabis. They just dont have it right or they get it wrong on purpose. Wish they would get their facts straight or not report on cannabis at all.
The way I see it,It dont matter what tv news reorts on cannabis,its gonna be biased or they do it to pull in ratings or both. The internet is the best place for real news. Ask the Iranians.
Its fox news, they lie and misrepresent with regards ti every issue imaginable, why would marijuana be any different?
I just went to FOX news and read the article, The advertisment right alongside was for, MONSATO GENETICALLY MODIFIED SEED. An American seed company who’s products have been banned in most of Europe due to lack of testing on humans.
Faux news
NORML You Kick Ass!!! Hahaha
Truth Will Prevail!
Check out this great debate. Every argument the police chief puts up gets completely destroyed:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0sFYPp_fT8
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF5gFRxEv4Y
So i heard from my friend that they were making Company owned cigs Illegal… and i was just thinking that “the man” is trying to make it seem like cigs are still better… so that when the “safer then bud” government cigs come out they will be selling like mad
The Fox Stooges are at it again. They will say anything to keep their ratings up. It’s all about money and misinformation to the public. Every time they are on the boob tube, they are plugging books they have written and it’s all the same bullshit rehashed and things the public knows already. The Fox Channel News are the far righters and the left bashers. AMERICAN COMMUNISTS OF THE NEWS WORLD ORDER.
legalize it NOW!
Whoa, FOX news did it again, getting their head stuck so far up their asses. They did that once before during the president election. I don’t give a damn what these so called self proclaimed scientists have to say about Cannabis, alcohol and tobacco kills people period. Isn’t this rather odd for them to focus only on cannabis and not on other hard core drugs like meth, coke, heroin and including alcohol,tobacco? FOX news, you are now starting to sound more and more like chicken little, the sky is falling, the sky is falling……
Mr. Mike Stroup #53 you have hit the nail on the head, we the people must become more active with the organizations that support our desires, not to mention call,write,fax, and whatever else it takes for the politicians understand the train is leaving the station, get on or get out of the way. 72 years your way has been a bust lets try it the Ron Paul way.
ATTENTiON!!!!!!!
Fox News iS BribeD by the Government
To SpreaD LiES…………………………?
Well, it is true that benzopyrene and other aromatic hydrocarbons are formed via the pyrolysis (that’s lighting) of THC and other plant matter, and that these compounds do have mutagenic activity due to their ability to form epoxides which can react with DNA.
However THC and other cannabinoids found in pot are known to be anti-carcinogenic which makes pot smoking a double-edged sword.
As you brought up earlier, smoking pot will produce these mutagenic metabolites while vaporizing will prevent the formation of most of them. Unfortunately most people do not vaporize their weed – they put it in their pipes or joints or bongs or blunts and use good old fire to light their pot.
Thus the way that most Americans at least are smoking pot, there is a risk of carcinogenic/mutagenic ability and that cannot be argued. Perhaps we should be shifting for a change in this fact.
In any case I still believe that it is nowhere near as bad as smoking tobacco – namely because the pyrolysis of tobacco forms oxides of nitrogen – called nitroso compounds (including nitrosamines) which are known to be very carcinogenic. Because THC has no nitrogen there is no risk of these nitroso compounds being formed and thus any nitrogen-based carcinogen is not present in marijuana smoke.
Smoking pot is at worst about as carcinogenic as working in a coal mine or dealing with soot…but it’s probably nowhere even near that bad.
As the saying goes, “there’s no such thing as bad publicity”.
Look at what happened to Letterman? He made a bad joke, and now his ratings have dramatically increased- any news about marijuana seems to be helping its cause- even if its tailored to suit a biased major news network (ALL of which are equally guilty, regardless of which side they lean…)
This ongoing prohibition, for me at least, has become so frustrating that it makes one physically, mentally, and spiritually weary. I, with physical injuries acquired from my military service (thanks a mil, gov) choose MJ over what was originally prescribed during my service- Percocet (Anyone up for vomiting tonight?) After my departure from service, 4 OF THE 4 VA DOCTORS responsible for my care have told me to stay with MJ, while also providing the wonderful gem “don’t get caught!”
But I live in a non-MedMJ state. Where does that leave me? Well, here in the great police state of Arizona, I WILL go to jail with felony charges if I have a JOINT on me… where does that leave me when it comes to pain management?
Screw nationalized healthcare-
Our nation wont even treat those who are sick now.
Absolutely disgusting.
Now if you’ll excuse me, my percocet is telling me its time to vomit now…
Fox news is an entertainment venue. Sadly some people actually consider it a news feed. The people they “report” to are already convinced about refeer madness. This wont have any impact but to inflame the few rational thinkers that bother with that network for whatever reasons.
They sell eyeballs to advertisers. Plain and simple. Dont get too caught up in their BS. That study is just like all the 80’s crap that was produced talking about how 1 “joint” had the same impact on you as smoking a pack of cigarettes. I cant recall the study they cite from then, but I’ve been told it came before that as well. Just became prominent during the Reagan escalation.
While this is a more citable study, that other example still rears its ugly head when I discuss this issue. Especially among the elderly voters. That stuck really hard in their minds. This new report will probably get less press or carry over into popular mindsets. It has no punch right now with all that is going on. No First Lady standing up and declaring Just Say No and all that rot.
Again Fox is an entertainment venue. Rupert Murdoch could care less what they produce as long as it is a good money maker. MSNBC and the like didn’t fare as well against CNN. But the formation of Fox News channel playing to the right sure was a money maker in comparison.
Oh, and just in case there’s any question-
Yes. Faux News disabled comments on purpose.
ok so if marijuana is so bad and so much worse than cigarettes how is it that i can smoke a phat bowl and or blunt go run five miles and be completely fine. But, if i smoke just one cigarette i would be hacking after just one mile?!?!?!?! explain that to me…or how about the HARVARD medical study stating that marijuana is shown to decrease the size of lung tumors by half…
Go to hell Fox News, you lying fascist vermin. Flamingly hypocritical alcohol supremacist bigots.
Fox news will do and make up anything to bash the left while promoting the right, especially if it will boost ratings. Lying is commonplace for them.
Is there anything funnier than a bunch of brain-dead liberals attacking FOX News for a story they had nothing to do with?
Maybe pot does effect your brain…
“Also, who the hell smokes 3-4 joints a day and by themselves no less? Nobody I know, that’s for damn sure.
That’s a lot of pot!”
My answer:
Quite a few people I know smoke more than that. Up until last year I was smoking 2grams plus a day, and had days where I smoked as much as 7grams. I definitely have less breathing problems now that I smoke less than half gram a day. Though I seem to be much more unhealthy overall.
I’ve never been a fan of Fox News and this only furthers my lack of respect for the station.
Yes FUX news is nothing more then a propaganda machine, There overall plan is to promote fear about all things, It does not matter the subject. It could be color, race, drugs Ect. As long as it promotes their agenda.
They know that many that watch them are knee-jerk reactionist and fools.
Fear sells.
A fools folly is fear. Don’t be afraid of change…
I did a study that proves people who are associated with or watch fox news are are idots.
Fox News: the place where science is evil and criticized relentlessly until it can be twisted to fit a right-wing agenda.
It’s all about the fines penalties an probation expenses incured in the legal system for possesion of it growing it selling it etc. in florida posession of a few grams 1000.00 dollar fine grow 30 something plants in your back yard possible 200,000.00 dollar fine . plus the IRS snatches your house.
your bank accounts reposess your car your life etc.
But OH ! OH ! OH ! Go out an murder half the city an what they give you a room w/t three meals a day an health coverage . plus library internet use an cable tv . what a feaking joke no fine what so ever ! LMAO ROTF ah tears my side hurts from laughing so hard . I figured by the time I grew up all the old bastard ass kissers would have died by now but the ass kissing repeats itself from generation to generation what T F !
Law enforcement wants to legalize weed.
here is the website proving so.
http://www.askleap.org
look for yourself
Fox News spreading propaganda?! Who could have guessed? Thankfully, the younger generations recognize this all-too-sad fact and are quickly abandoning Fox along with the rest of the dismal cable news networks as a legitimate source of news. Blogs are quickly replacing the MSM – you click, you decide.
Nice to know that the US Govt and FOX “News” cares about us so deeply.
Besides – who in the hell smokes four joints a day?? BY THEMSELVES??
So……….. am I the only one noticing they are saying 3-4 joints are as bad for you as 20 cigarettes when 10 years ago the rhetoric was “1 joint = 20 cigarettes”
I don’t give a damn if they say it makes you grow an extra head. ALL I WANT IS FREEDOM OF CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!!
I will sigh a release stating I will be responsible for any adverse reaction.
JUST GIVE ME FREEDOM OF CHOICE AND QUIT PUTTING ONE MILLION IN JAIL EVER YEAR!!!!!!!!!!
CFJ
Do like I do vote with your remote with modern technology they know who is tuned in. So when FOX news comes on change the channel…
CFJ
Oh alarm. If marijuana is so dangerous, where are all of the sick, dying and dead marijuana consumers?
If you go to the hospital, it’s easy to observe the people there with cancer from smoking cigarettes, with liver disease from drinking, with heart disease from over eating, but where are the marijuana smokers if it is such a great health risk?
With approximately thirty million regular consumers of cannabis in the US, you would think our hospitals and morgues would be full of sick and dying marijuana consumers. It’s all a big lie.
You know, as long as my DNA is not damaged as bad as the morphed DNA of Fox News reporters, I’m okay with that. I just want to know who is driving the marijuana scare train and why. DEA? ONDCP? PDA? Whoever it is, they can kiss my ass.
Its fox news people i dont belive more than half the shit that comes out of there lieing mouths.Last night on Anderson Cooper the docter they had on said cannibus has many medicial uses and marinol is not in any way the same as cannibus. Yes it have thc but cannibus has a lot of other combinations of substances that have medical benifit.And that was a unbias docter who job was just to state the facts.So who do u belive?
Okay so everyone go out and buy it and be responsible for more Mexican Carnage and death. Yeah!
If it weren’t for the fact that I hold my enemies closer than I do my loved ones…that I must know what my enemy is doing at all times…that Fox is only a propaganda machine…Fox wouldn’t even be programed on my remote. For that reason,and that reason only…Fox can count me when Neilson takes a viewer count.
But, because the T.V. is truly only an advertising box, and derives income from advertising…”I will never buy anything advertised on Fox again…ever”…
and…I’m as proud as punch to let them know that. Now that’s the truth for a change! Boycotting is
the safest way to wage war.
If there ever was a need for any law or government policy to stand, its the Data Quality Act, and the President’s Memo to Department Heads and Agencies. These are the guys that break their own rules, and we are the guys that let them.
To the people who think 4 joints a day is a lot: It’s really not, just a matter of preference.
…But.. even if it were bad, we as free-willed living beings should not have to be given obstacles such as law when it comes to choices involving our own bodies.
It would acceptable for the Govt to say “You shouldn’t smoke because it causes damage” .. Fine. I could deal with that. Thanks for the advice. But I’m not okay with people I don’t even know making these decisions for me telling me I CAN’T do these things and threatening me with jail time where I would be stripped of my Wife and Children because THEY THINK this is wrong… It’s fucking bullshit.
We really need more smokers to come out of the proverbial “closet” to start speaking up and more… You now a LOT of people saw FOX’s message about DNA and Cancer.. but how many see the valid reasons for legalization? We need to push a little harder.
Rich
WickedStoned.com
Canibus laws initially started as a reaction to mexican immigrants and blacks in social situations by white lawmakers, somebody needed to think of the children… and the white women…
There were racial biases present against those communities and this was one way to combat and restrict their presence.
Through McCarthy era politics, about the time when Reefer Madness hit the scene, the counter culture acceptance of weed was a rallying cry for the old guard to build paranoia among the voting populous. Yu should know what that is like if you lived in the US for the last 8 years…
Through the seventies and 80s not only was it a pulpit point, because everybody wants to go to war to save the children, won’t somebody please think of the children, but also this served (along with the rest of the drug war) as a great stand to take as pharmaceuticals, gun manufacturers and other supplementary businesses have no problem outlawing something that could reduce their possible business demographic.
Now think about all the industry funded by the war on drugs?
Then think about all of the OTC pharmaceuticals (most of which have 25 seconds of their 30 second spots devoted to how bad their drug can be for you) that would be in direct competition with an herbal alternative?
Start to see the picture?
Okay now for the real tinfoil hat thoughts, most subversive groups, like Al Quaeda use illegal drug trade as a major source for funding. All over the world, some even here in the USA, now certainly legaliziing and subsidizing Marijuana would deflate those groups as it would remove a prime source of income
– (and gee it may bring a possible new cash crop to domestic farmers who could use it to keep their land, and the taxes subsudized for healthcare or education, and the by products implemented into industry as a replacement for wood in many circumstances) –
…then how could our government get them to do their bidding (our government can be replaced by supreme evil leader or the illuminati if you prefer). See from the street thug who may sell it, to the gun traders who bring it in, to the “Legitimate” businessman who houses and moves it through, to the organization who uses it to fund its operations, to the gun manufacturers who supply the bad guys AND the police, to the large corporations who cannot have a safe and healthier alternative to their sleepy time/hard on/anti nausia pills, to the politician who needs an emergency button to get the mom’s of America worried …
well there are a lot of bad people who really need it to be illegal.
It could have a great positive impact, but too many people profit from its status as an illicit drug. Sure many things you can get at the Safeway are far more dangerous… but nobody has a stock portfolio on weed, or a copyright, or.. well you should get hte picture by now.
If science can’t help a large group of people believe that dinosaurs actually did exist, and evolution is a part of nature, do you think it can convince them that weed might be good?
Not unless you tell them Jesus said so…
/sorry Jesus, I know you forgive me though…
//Bryce – good luck to man, I hope that someday you don’t have to hide in the dark just to able recover from wounds you received fighting for our country man, you deserve more respect than that.
Thanx!, #82 has mentioned my organization, L.E.A.P., Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. Schedule speakers to have a seminar in your home town! It’s fun, educational and meet cops who are truly your friends! Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf, not me or you. Join us or be square man! LOL
Federal DEA Retired 1977 to 1983
Fox news is heavy Republican based. Truth is, the republicans have their hands deep in the drug trade/drug cartels pockets. They will say anything to keep marijuana illegal. They stand to lose a great deal of un-traceable CASH should it become legal. Maybe it alters ones DNA for the better. We know one feels better for smoking it. If that’s the DNA change working, then by all means, change our DNA, and let us be the judge if it’s a good change or not.
I tried to pull up the entire original research article and could not. I just saw the abstract on “pub med”. I was not aware that mass spec was a quantitative method so I would like to read the whole thing.
As far as relevance to cannabis legalization, it has none. There are many research articles on cannabis. Impartial clinical studies I am aware of indicate cannabis is mostly harmless and helpful. Biochemical studies support profound neuroprotective and anti-inflammatory effects.
Of course if your research funds come from a source that encourages you to find data that supports “harmful”, you’re probably going to be able to design an experiment that will allow you to find data supporting “harmful”.
At heart this is a civil liberties and human rights issue. All the research is interesting, if it is scientifically legitimate, but it is irrelevant with respect to the rights of people to use an ancient herbal therapy, including for so called “recreational” use.
MAN FUCK FOX NEWS (FUCKIN DICK PUSHERS) WE ALL AND I MEAN ALL NEED TO CALL,EMAIL,WRITE,ANYTHING EVERYDAY AND TELL FOX TO GO EAT A BOWL OF DICKS WITH ALL THERE DAMN LIES, LIKE CALL AFTER CALL,EMAIL AFTER EMAIL,LET THEM KNOW THEY NEED TO GET THE FUCK OFF THE AIR
AND YEAH 4 JOINTS A DAY ISNT SHIT U LIL GIRLS
Hey hey L.E.A.P. At least there are cops out there that see this for what it is.
Here i SEE IT AGAIN! Dont anyof you people get it? You bash the right you bash the left,the dems the repubs. Its all a FREAKING GAME! They have you playing it! How the hell are we the people going to set things right in this country as long as you all play thier games? With one hand they say’look I’ll do this for you’ while with the other handthey steal your freedoms away! Who gives a shit what T.V. station says what,they all lie! Wake up people!
And you think this is any different from any other reporting in any other agency? It is clear that Fox was reporting what this study and its authors said. They are guilty of not doing any background reporting to research other sources so they get demerits for shoddy fact checking. The only ‘misrepresentation’ was the initial simplified statement.
It makes good copy even if it’s nonsense. I wouldn’t be trying to make this an indictment of FOX’s inherent dishonesty. If you did you would be guilty of what you seem to be accusing FOX of.
There is no such thing as a legit mainstream media.
Fox/CNN/ABC/CBS/MSNBC are all corporate owned and don’t report real news and if they try to they distort the story with lies and deceit.
Watch Democracy Now for the truth.
just another way to derail people from smoking pot.its one thing after another with these jackasses.PLAIN AND SIMPLE,JACKASSES AMERICANS WILL SMOKE REGARDLESS OF THESE SO CALLED TESTS.THEY HAVE ALOT OF BALLS,WHEN CIGERETTES ARE LEGAL AND WAY WORSE.SORRY BUT WE WILL SMOKE REGARDLESS OF THE TERRIBLE PROPAGANDA
Last nights AC360 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMwUIgzf5H0
Your article suffers from its own distortions since it claims “what Fox says” when it is actually a single researcher they are interviewing. Face it. If you take any view on a subject you are likely to find ‘Experts’ to back it. Since Fox was reporting on this one view and stated it upfront why get so torqued. Your article is similar to the guy who goes to a republican rally and complains about the lack of democrats in the speaker list. As for pot smoking… after observing the number of smokers who turn into losers over the last forty years I would recommend it only if you want to fail.
OMG The ammount of money spent on the war on drugs . Imagine what our economy would be like with all that money spent here in our country for the good of the people rather than beating us down fineing imprisoning kids for having a joint or papers taking they’re vehicles etc. etc. all the jails prisons would be free of quite a bit of population releasing the casual smokers an sellers . I vote for american cultivation an distribution an sure tax it like cigarettes an alcohol rather than millions of dollars going out of the country to feed the mexican columbian canadian farmers distributors. if everybody bought american products america wouldn’t be in so much trouble. yadda yadda yadda.
I hate the freaking fox news website, because you CAN’T comment on articles, unlike many other sites. They do this because they know they will be inundated with people proving them wrong
republicans suck and thats all fox does is support the the reblican side and besides republicans hate everything plus their racist as hell they dont want to do anything positive that includes the legalisation of marijuana as an expierenced MJ user I LOVE IT! JUST LEGALIZE IT ALREADY !! plus most of the republican party says lies and says most who ar for Marijuana want other drugs to be leagalized WHICH ISNT TRUE!
Surprisingly for aome odd reason Ron paul isnt but its still all good Ill smoke one for him
HEY DAVE HOW ABOUT YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP THERE IS NOTHING WRONG MJ BECAUSE THOSE THING S THAT THEY ARE SAYING SHIT ABOUT WEED ISNT TRUE
Eff Fox news.
You call out Fox as if they are the only network, then say:
“The ‘news’ story, which several other mainstream media outlets are also promoting,”
Would you guys please stop bashing Fox. They are not the enemy. I have seen many non-biased pieces on Fox about prohibition of cannabis. More on Fox than any other network.
If you haven’t already, I believe a more productive approach is to invite yourself (norml) on to provide additional information that was missing or incorrect in the piece.
There is a good part of even pieces that are not 100% accurate or 100% complete… People are discussing this issue. The more citizens hear about re-legalizing the more will actually take a minute and consider the pro/con.
Dave:Save your breath you have no idea what u are talking about 40 years of losers go fuck yourself.I am a very successful pot smoker with 2 BA’s and one masters in education.Im only 25 years old and pot has not effected my drive or my mind in anyway.You just sound like a dumb ass who would watch fox news.
my pulmonary doc told me that if I was going to use pot that the Volcano was the way to go…it’s made a huge difference in my breathing…and eating it can actually help with asthma (so my doc told me)…and, come on, in 1972 we thought it surely would have been legal by now
hell ya number 72. Thomas you are right. my wife has bad asthma and if she is even around cig smoke her lungs lock up. But she can smoke the fattest blunt ever and not need an inhaler.
Fuck fox news
Just as many Republicans use pot as Democrats.
They’re just the one’s you don’t hear about…and
…they protect that anonymity with the rest of their deep secrets, and dark closets. The good news is that are still one of us…”one people.” If the prohibitionists are all about religion…let them refer to…
Genesis I:11*12
Genesis I:29*30*31
Genesis IX:3…
unless they use the new revised “fruits and vegetable” version…the one where they changed “green herb” to “fruits and vegetables.” I wonder what else they have changed…at least God’s gift to his creation…Manna
…Holy Sacrament for CDXX Communion. It’s rather obvious, they take issue with God’s word.
What does a Pot Head and Laura Bush have in comon?
They both Blow a Little Dope.
They have to be full of crap saying that weed is worse than cigarettes. I smoked cigarettes for 17 years. At the end, I smoked 2 – 2 1/2 packs a day. My husband smoked around the same amount and was a smoker for 20 years. We both quit 2 years ago, cold turkey… well almost =)
We smoked a joint every time we had a craving for a cigarette for the first 2 weeks. I am not saying it took all the cravings away, not even close. It did certainly take the edge off though, just enough that we haven’t touched one since we quit. After the first 2 weeks, we gradually lowered our usage to a more reasonable amount. We do still both smoke 2-3 joints a day.
I use because it helps the various elements of my lupus, and because I enjoy it. It helps his back pain as well.
When I smoked cigarettes, every morning when I would wake up and brush my teeth I would have to stand there and cough up that yellow nasty stuff you cough up from the cigs… so did hubby. That has all stopped after getting off the cigarettes.
If pot is so much worse, as this article says why don’t I cough that crap up all the time anymore? I say they are misinformed. There is no way marijuana can be as bad, let alone worse.
Fox News does this all the time. They are the the “What you don’t know may kill you” station. It’s the tabloid of television “journalism”. Their ratings continue to drop as the country becomes more liberal so they have to rely on scare tactics more and more.
Too much misinformation being sent out to brainwash citizens….lets keep on fighting for complete decriminalization!
I smoke weed every day, and I can tell you this article is bias and misleading. Smoking weed DOES GIVE YOU CANCER. Any smoke from biomass releases cancer causing carcinogens called PAHs (Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon). Saying smoking weed can not give you cancer is a painful lie.
3 things
smoking weed CAN give you cancer
buy a vape
legalize it
Fox news is bias, but honestly so is NORML and this article is testament to that. Don’t take all things NORML says for fact, it’s really distorted, do some research yourself.
[Editor’s note: NORML’s blog post criticizing Fox News’ coverage of cannabis-related issues did NOT claim that cannabis use can never cause cancer cells. What the blog demonstrates, via citations, that the current scientific literature does not support such a claim at this time. Regarding vaporization, NORML, CA NORML and MAPS are at the vanguard here, when in 2001, they paid for and published most of the literature in existence on the subject, indicative of the reform organizations’ desire to publish verifiable and credible scientific/medical information that is directed towards the cannabis-consuming community.
Your opinion, with no citations, that ‘smoking weed CAN give you cancer’, is just that, your individual opinion. The public is invited to cite scientific studies (with peer reviewed studies always preferred) on NORML’s blogs at anytime re the health effects of cannabis, notably regarding cancer.
You can read that original vaporization research at http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4250%5D
No.. it is not my opinion… it is a fact
Does marijuana have tar?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080512231337AAKlgXX
(Multiple sources cited – concluding yes it does have tar and 150% as many carcinogens as tobacco)
Does burning tar release PAHs?
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts69.html#bookmark02
Therefor can smoking weed give you cancer?
Yes.
Is that just my opinion?
No.
[Editor’s note: Thanks for your selective citations…which still do not support your claim. FYI…tar does not equate to cancer. Did you take the time to read the most recent expert opinion on ‘tar’ and cannabis smoke? A genuine medical expert’s opinion, who is funded by a govt anti-drug agency, re your claims are found at: http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6912%5D
Like I needed another reason to despise FOX News.
Clearly inhaling smoke can be detrimental to health. No filters would make it worse. Use a vaporizer, or use a bowl. Surely the liberty of choice we can live by, or die by.
P.S. It’s amazing how CNN can go all week with a VERY fair report, and FOX pulls this sensationalized obscure study out.
#115 elena Says:
June 18th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
my pulmonary doc told me that if I was going to use pot that the Volcano was the way to go…it’s made a huge difference in my breathing…and eating it can actually help with asthma (so my doc told me)…and, come on, in 1972 we thought it surely would have been legal by now…
RE:
All the more reason to strongly PUBLICIZE
the inherent safety of VAPORIZERS…
NO TAR, nor carbon-monoxide…
no smoke-borne hypoxia!!!
Bongs are bogus…
VAPING is THE WAY!!!
Also, still use tobacco,
yet prefer not to smoke it;
VAPE tastes much better,
and is far SAFER!!!
WARNING: New study finds Fox News damages your DNA !
All seriousness, probably over half the things sold in a grocery store can damage your DNA and alot of them are sold as food. From all the artifical petro chemical flavors, colors, preservatives, additives. Over half of all processed food is genetically modified food, all of which we know causes cancer long term. It is true that one of the most important decisions humans can make in their life is what they decide to put into their bodies. Thats why natural, organic, non-GMO is my motto to live my. Be healthy yall. The only thing missing is having the decision to smoke only organic, like I would if it were legal !
bromontana:
AC360 is doing an awesome job this week with the marijuana journalism. Actually, the idea with true journalism is that you DO present both sides of an issue. But with AC, read between the lines and look at the journalism as a whole. AC presents the prohibitionist side, but he does an excellent job of presenting it to look a little stupid and uninformed. Or wait, maybe it’s because there’s no good argument for keeping pot illegal.
These self rightous, well wishing fucks like the phoney Fox News would like to abolish human pleasure and laughter in on this planet…
This is the station and people that were so eager to sell us all on Bush’s BULLSHIT war on “weapons of mass destruction in Iraq” and all the other treasonous shit from Bush and company..
What also reall pissed me off is how they silenced and fired two honest, good people for trying to expose the CANCER risks of GENETICALLY modified cows milk…Monsanto threatened Rupert Murdock with pulling millions $$$ in AD Campaign finance so what did FOX NEWS do??? They brought in the corporate attorneys and totally re-drafted the true story and threatened to fire these fine reporters…Well, these reporters refused but kept the evidence, irrefutable evidence that they were bribed and threatened to lie and change their story about the cancerous milk from MONSANTO’S chemicalized cattle hormone, genetically modified feed the cattle shit to produce more milk {and painful for the cow}
It all went to court as A whistleblower case but of course so many of the judges are stooges for the corporations and these heroic people lost…Monsanto’s poison milk hit the shelves and they even had A law put into effect that no-one could advertise their milk as non G.M.
Now FOX news is saying that pot is cancerous..These crooked bastards need to be removed from the gene pool….
Really, do we need to argue this point about how biased Faux News or NORML is? Get a grip. We are adults and make our own decisions. If I choose to smoke, cool. If I choose to pickle my liver, cool. If I choose to use technology, cool. As for the “medical” or “governmental” experts, who cares? I am an expert at what is best for me.
http://www.nacd.ie/publications/33467NACDCannabis.pdf
Page 23 – Smoking cannabis results in the formation of a large number of combustion products. The vapour
phase consists of nitrogen oxides, carbon monoxide, hydrogen cyanide and nitrosamines, and the
particulate phase contains many known cancer-causing agents including phenols, cresols and
polynuclear aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs).
[Editor’s note: Citing a 2004 UK report, funded by a prohibition-favoring govt re PAHs, does not make the case that cannabis causes cancer.
Instead, maybe the below NORML article featuring the remarks and observations of a 40-year researcher of cannabis, smoke and cancer is more informative to cannabis consumers and the general public.
>What we found instead was no association and even a suggestion of some protective effect,” Tashkin told the newspaper chain, noting that cannabinoids cause “cells [to] die … before they age enough to develop mutations that might lead to cancer.”
June 18, 2009 – Los Angeles, CA, USA
Los Angeles, CA: A University of California researcher who has performed US-government sponsored studies of marijuana and lung function for over 30 years says that pot should be legal.
In an interview with the McClatchy newspaper chain, Donald Tashkin of the UCLA David Geffen School of Medicine, Division of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine, said: “[A]t this point, I’d be in favor of (marijuana) legalization. I wouldn’t encourage anybody to smoke any substances. But I don’t think it should be stigmatized as an illegal substance. Tobacco smoking causes far more harm. And in terms of an intoxicant, alcohol causes far more harm (than marijuana).”
Tashkin said that when he began his work thirty years ago, he “opposed … legalization because [he] thought it would lead to increased use and that would lead to increased health effects.” However, he now admits that his decades’ worth of scientific research revealed an opposite conclusion.
In 2006, Tashkin led the largest population case-control study ever to assess the use of marijuana and lung cancer risk. The study, which included more than 2,200 subjects (1,212 cases and 1,040 controls), reported that marijuana smoking was not positively associated with cancers of the lung or upper aerodigestive tract – even among individuals who reported smoking more than 22,000 joints during their lifetime.
“What we found instead was no association and even a suggestion of some protective effect,” Tashkin told the newspaper chain, noting that cannabinoids cause “cells [to] die … before they age enough to develop mutations that might lead to cancer.”
For more information on marijuana smoke and cancer risk, please see: http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6891. A literature review of cannabinoids’ anti-cancer properties is available at: http://www.norml.org//index.cfm?Group_ID=7008.%5D
This is the type of article and information that needs to be seen on other sites and press than NORML.
My experience is that people will blow off talking about or reading a study on drugs or an editorial on personal freedoms with an attitude that implies, “If you’re talking about drugs then you’re probably high right now and I can’t trust you!”
My only other idea is to battle the negative stereotypes associated with marijuana and other drug use so that people might then listen to what we have to say. I don’t really know how this would go down because I’m sure most of the successful, intelligent poster-boy users wouldn’t want to announce that they do because of these very stereotypes being trust upon them (and legal implications of course).
People balk at racial stereotypes nowadays, but still seem to easily slip into viewing drug users as dumb, lazy, and untrustworthy. Try to apply that stereotype to any other group of people nowadays, and people will not tag along with the notion so easily.
Oh Fox, do your antics know no bounds?
All that I want is to be left alone. I wear pro med. and legelize shirts all the time. I live in Mn. and disgusted at Gov. Pawlenty, who by the way says now that he will not run again.So untill next year when I become politicly active I will just watch the sea of green across America grow like a tidal wave. Stop probition NOW.
123 Intellectual Stoner…there’s a lot of verbiage going on…but…your 16 words hit the whole deal right on the head. Every single one of us should get on the band wagon, and push it with the same intensity we did in 1996.
1. Data Quality Act.
2. President’s Memo to Executive Department Heads and Agencies.
These two…alone will cause more awareness and correct any misinformation than anything we could do…if we can get the misinformers to obey the law.
weed forums are awesome. its always endless self-rationalizations masked by some external variable/story. its total Cargo Cultist mentality and a redundant joke.
the irony is that in order to have a “cancer-free” THC high, you need a cancerous industrial system to get it. as long as its someone else getting the cancer, who gives a fuck right? its all about autonomy when it comes to recreational drugs – except when its about taking someone elses autonomy to run the Childish-Adult Fantasy of civilization. everything comes from nowhere so theres no impact elsewhere. good logic.
…sigh…Johnny D…please stop.
NORML has shut you down 3 times now.
But then again, #132 makes a great fundamental point, even if I dont agree with his conclusion of NORML falling under the same blame as FOX.
All this comes down to is the freedoms we are supposed to be born under in this country are only granted to those with the money to say what is freedom and what isn’t.
Say MJ is legalized TODAY- 20 years from now, im sure there will be the mention of “Big MJ” right along side of “Big Tobacco” and “Big Pharma”.
Except I have the choice to support “Big Tobacco” and “Big Pharma”…
…I would gladly support “Big MJ”.
California just officially declared marijuana as a cancer causing substance. They said they based their classification on 30 studies and the fact that marijuana smoke contains several of the same chemicals as tobacco smoke. In fact that is an old argument and clearly they have ignored the research of one of their own scientists (Tashkin). I hope NORML responds swiftly to California’s decision.
and speaking of studies- Would you rather trust a surgeon with only a few years under his belt in all types of operations (and with a history of supporting his paycheck rather than his patient) to give you specialized advice?
Or would you rather go to the surgeon that has spent decades on the one field that affects you most?
I have been in that position before-
With my degenerative disk disease and arthritis of the spine at 23, my only options right now are fusion or pain management. I have seen three specialists about these options.
2 Private doctors have told me they will not do a fusion at this time because it will essentially ruin my life (because I would have to continue disk fusion over time, potentially fusing my entire spine by the age of 35)
the 3rd private doctor spent 6 minutes (at my first appointment) and concluded that not only would he do the fusion, he could do it in a month.
..I never went to that doctor again.
Oh, and since my injuries occured during my military service, Im under VA healthcare (100%).
All three doctors had the same opportunity to rape the system for monetary gain.
Only one tried to do so.
So dont tell me that NORML (who OBVIOUSLY is only in this for themselves *sarcasm*) is twisting the truth for their own gain- did you forget? Once MJ is legal, they are out of a job.
You’re right- they’re all in the same boat.
Why can they report such inaccuracies without being sued? If I put on the air that cigarettes make you look cool, I would be prosecuted so fast I couldn’t even pee my pants first.
#129 Da Vinci Says:
June 19th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
WARNING: New study finds Fox News damages your DNA !
All seriousness, probably over half the things sold in a grocery store can damage your DNA and alot of them are sold as food. From all the artifical petro chemical flavors, colors, preservatives, additives. Over half of all processed food is genetically modified food, all of which we know causes cancer long term. It is true that one of the most important decisions humans can make in their life is what they decide to put into their bodies. Thats why natural, organic, non-GMO is my motto to live my. Be healthy yall. The only thing missing is having the decision to smoke only organic, like I would if it were legal !
RE:
American Spirit Organic Cannabis?
So be it!!!
8)
Fox fails in my opinion anyway.
It is quite sad though… I’m sure a majority of Americans get their information from this news network, and I’m sure some believe it… these being the same people who tell you not to believe everything you read on the internet.
There can only be one truth, and I believe experience (not just my experience, but the experience of anyone who has tried Cannabis) merits more attention than the same people who are responsible for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtcPEFgwAHk
Haha…
With respect to the original research article in the publication “Chemical Research in Toxicology” (not the Fox interpretation) the data indicates similar levels of acetaldehyde for tobacco or cannabis cigarettes. Ten tobacco cigarettes yielded similar results to ten cannabis cigarettes.
The analytical method they used failed to detect differences in levels of acetaldehyde in lung tissue from smokers and nonsmokers.
Per the article, acetaldehyde is present in a number of food products indluding fruits, vegetables and cooked meats.
The statement that “smoking 3 or 4 cannabis joints a day is equivalent to smoking 20 cigarettes” does not come from the data discussed in the article, but from yet another article from “Br. J. Psychiatry” by Ashton (2001), and is in the conclusion of the article in question.
The conclusion in the Singh et al article was based on conclusions from other articles not from their own data. That their conclusions were not based on their original data as described in the article calls into question the methodology used and the integrity of the scientific process.
These people need to be challenged when they write misleading articles in the name of science. The political agenda that informs their “science” is painfully obvious and could serve as yet another rationalization to criminalize good people.
does anyone also think about how much of the CO2 in the atmosphere would be taken out if marijuana were legalized? Trees are being chopped down to make farmland, why not farm something that takes alot of CO2 and help the global warming problem as well. Marijuana legalization has almost no cons but plenty of pros. Plus people are always going to get high, its just about how much crap is society and the government going to give these people
#145 Carol Says:
June 21st, 2009 at 9:09 am
With respect to the original research article in the publication “Chemical Research in Toxicology” (not the Fox interpretation) the data indicates similar levels of acetaldehyde for tobacco or cannabis cigarettes. Ten tobacco cigarettes yielded similar results to ten cannabis cigarettes.
The analytical method they used failed to detect differences in levels of acetaldehyde in lung tissue from smokers and nonsmokers.
Per the article, acetaldehyde is present in a number of food products indluding fruits, vegetables and cooked meats…
RE: Carol,
– Acetylaldehyde is also an
intermediate-product of alcohol-metabolism
via
Alcohol DeHydrogenase:
ETHANOL metabolized into ACETYLALDEHYDE
ACETYLALDEHYDE metabolized in ACETIC-ACID
ACETIC-ACID metabolized into ACETYL-CoEnzymeA
ACETYL-CoEnzymeA metabolized, (for energy),
via CITRIC-ACID CYCLE into CARBON DIOXIDE…
#146 me Says:
June 21st, 2009 at 2:24 pm
does anyone also think about how much of the CO2 in the atmosphere would be taken out if marijuana were legalized? Trees are being chopped down to make farmland, why not farm something that takes alot of CO2 and help the global warming problem as well. Marijuana legalization has almost no cons but plenty of pros. Plus people are always going to get high, its just about how much crap is society and the government going to give these people.
RE:
– I don’t have any exact numbers, however,
considering how OILY cannabis-plants are,
their high SOLAR-ILLUMINATION-REQUIREMENTS…
– My best guess is that cannabis-plants would be removing
signifcant-amounts of CO2 from the earth’s atmosphere,
as it’s converting sunlight into oily-seeds, cellulose-fiber
and various cannabinoid-molecules, structures
comprised of, (at least) 20 carbon-atoms each.
AcetylAldehyde = Acetaldehyde
Spelling variations describing the same thing…
I dont give any value to these articles. Its total BS. If you show me a LOT of people that only smoke pot at get lung cancer, then ill take it into consideration. But seriously this article is just made to scare people and so some big wig has some article to cite when he is trying to prove a completely illegitimate point. For me, I dont care if its legalized or not. Being able to smoke in public would be cool definatly. But Id still buy from my dealer. It would be so expensive.
Sounds like a lot of B.S. (bad science) to me. I mean it’s like all FOX did was research marijuana smoking and picked out all the bad things it does without mentioning all the effects it has made for medicinal use.
Stupid media… I am getting soooo tired of hearing the media focus completely on the smoking aspect. If you are so worried about the cancer causing agents in the smoke then just use a vaporizer or cook it into food.
Vaporizing is superior to smoking anyway. That’s two completely doable options. The end.
the story on fox news website was complementary of the associated press, and from what i read was targeted towards smoking it, not eating it or vaporizing it. all the fox news haters need to chilax and do a little research themselves before getting their panties in a twist. also please write your congressman and tell them to support the bill that is being sponsered by ron paul and barney frank…its time that we tell the federal government to back off and let the states decide how they want to treat marijuana laws.
#152 Matt Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
…just use a vaporizer or cook it into food.
Vaporizing is superior to smoking anyway. That’s two completely doable options. The end…
RE:
Matt,
All we need now is…
AFFORDABLE
Food-Grade Cannabis…
NATIONWIDE…
– The FDA and DEA are GUILTY of
keeping such…UNavailable…
This MUST end NOW!!!
Fox News: A fair and balanced look at the right.
Puh-lease. DNA? Really? Thats ALL you could think of? Next time, try this:
“This just in- smoking marijuanna has been shown to make you a total loser. If you smoke marijuanna, you will be fat and bald by twenty. Oh, and also, bugs will grow to enormous size and eat your balls.”
(Cuts to a shady looking guy wearing a labcoat.)
“Yeah. It’s all true. We’ve done very scientifiky tests and sh*t. …Please give me money.
It’s for orphans.
I swear.”
im fucking furious about that. not only did fox put that shit on tv, but all the fucking retards in america watching that saying “holy shit, it changes your DNA!!!!”
also, out of all the people commenting on how mad they are about this, how many are actually doing anything about it?? visiting this website doesnt count, get the word out. LEGALIZE. REGULATE. EDUCATE.
fox news should be called
all fox up news,they are fing anal
to say the least,don’t watch that channel
nothing fair and balance about it.
that atation needs alittle prozac,yes!!!!
I thought republicans (fox news main base) were for personal responsibility and keeping government out of our lives and wallets. So they need to practice what they preach. Stay out of our lives and let us live our life as we see fit. It is time to end the madness now.
one word BULLSHIT
Will everybody please keep it solidly in their minds, that We the People are now in the majority…in “our country.” Just check out the percentages. Who the hell gives a big rats ass what prohibs say. The majority knows how much shit the minority is full of.
I am an Individualist. No law can be sacred to me but that of my nature. Good and bad are but names readily transferable to that or this; the only right is what is after my constitution; the only wrong what is against it. We the People are to carry ourselves in the presence of all opposition as if prohibs were titular and ephemeral. I am “ashamed” to think how easily we capitulate to badges and names, to large societies and dead institutions.
If every individual plant him or her self indomintbly
on his or her instincts…and…there abide…the huge world will come round to him or her.
TORTURE IN THE COUNTY JAIL is my story. An over-zealot detective forced me to take 12 times the amount of my sleeping medication. Has anyone reading this blog ever been deprived of sleep for 144 straight hours? I was severely beaten, innocent, O.D. for nearly a week. I was held in lock-down for the duration without even a shower or bathroom break for three straight days sometimes. It was Memorial Day weekend, the noise was like a stampede of elephants as I lay there under a constant bright light on the cold cement floor (they would threaten to ‘chain me to the grate’ in the floor if I didn’t shut-up.) If I had not made it out of that jail cell I know beyond a doubt that they would have blamed me for suicide (having come to jail in that critical of a condition.) A federal lawsuit was a charade of corruption and injustice. The $2.5 million Default Judgement was awarded to me but only $8,000 was offered as a settlement from the local police who are paid to ‘serve and protect.’ I did not want the money I was only seeking justice for all in the name of God Almighty, the Truth and Light. I am bi-polar; pot has helped me to survive. The hypocrites here in Utah need to realize that there are laws governing the division of church and state. My Father, my friends and siblings have always produced their own pot; farming is a basic human instinct in our genes given to us by God. No one will ever take that away from me again, as long as I do live, and I stand on my right to privacy to allow God to grow my seeds (if I can come across any.) I believe that Utah, being the second biggest grower in the U.S., possibly hides behind Mormonism when it comes to $6 million crops being found in our canyons and praries. I wonder where that many seeds always come from, probably the evidence lockers get swept out now and then. . . . u-m-m-m, go figure! It is now the time for the farms of America to swell with lush green fields of hemp, especially for industry and crucially needed jobs. I love Jim Stafford’s old song, WILD WOOD WEED. I am trying to get it back into circulation. Thanks for listening and truly I thank all of my fellow Americans for my vindication This ‘freedom of speech’ is awesome! See ya’ all in San Francisco in September.
161 Wendy from Good ‘ole Utah
Wendy…yes!…we from California went 151 hours on a gambler’s holiday in Vegas “88. Yes! we saw spiders and snakes that weren’t there…and…we DID NOT tweak to get in those hours. The difference was…”151 was our choice.”
You…and…the whole world should know that “SLEEP DEPRIVATION” is without question the worst form of torture. You literally burn up in your own skin. Fortunately…your creator (Heavenly Father) was in your corner. Let’s see how Heavenly Father treats those who steal the vengeance that is exclusively his or hers…not some dumb ass zealot that demonstrates to the world just how unholy we can be.
P.S. In California…we are suing the hell out counties that don’t conform to state law. I guess you’ve heard by now…San Diego has seen the light…whether they like it or not. Now that’s how to get tough…and…”Take that with ya.”
[Editor’s note: Indeed…NORML, et al sued San Diego and other counties in CA who would not recognize medical cannabis, and the US Supreme Court rejected their arguments earlier this spring.]
this story is foolish it is a scare tactic
reffer maddness is alive and well in people who would do anything to keep it that way
Ya just can’t watch the news tube any longer. Its only purpose is to scare and intimidate the masses. It’s just like the one poster said above, they keep playing that “gotcha” thing over and over again.
This is why I threw my TV away
You you could change the blog subject Fox News Infected With “Reefer Madness” | NORML Blog, Marijuana Law Reform to more suited for your blog post you write. I liked the blog post all the same.