Washington State Legalization Hearings Taking Place Now!

Washington state hearings on marijuana decriminalization and legalization bills going on live now. You can view the hearing by going here.
Vote is scheduled to take place one week from today.
If you reside in Washington, you can write your House member in support of these measures by going here.
You can read NORML’s testimony here.
[UPDATE!!! UPDATE!!! YOU CAN NOW WATCH THE ARCHIVED VIDEO OF THIS HISTORIC TWO-HOUR HEARING HERE. THERE IS ALSO AN EXCELLENT ARTICLE HERE, AUTHORED BY NORML BOARD MEMBER DOMINIC HOLDEN, EXPLAINING WHY COMMON SENSE MARIJUANA LAW REFORM STILL REMAINS AN UPHILL BATTLE IN WASHINGTON (AND ELSEWHERE).]

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  1. WESTCOAST: Im willing to move from the midwest to help your tax burden.Its funny cause we wanna pay tax on it ,i just can not believe the other states are not doing it at the same time other states are. They must be afraid of 1.3 billion revenue…… COMMON SENSE

  2. How can people expect to get marijuana legalized when you’ve got people showing up to the testimony wearing a marijuana leaf stocking cap and a leather jacket. It’s fine if that’s your thing and it’s what you wear. In this case you are testifying. Dress up a little bit and do your homework so you don’t make us look like complete dumb asses.

  3. I am not familiar with the political climate of Washington. What is the chance of one of these bills getting passed?
    Keep up the great work! There are people wrongly behind bars RIGHT NOW who need our help!

  4. After watching this it looks like Washington may beat Cali to the punch. Members seem to be mostly in favor and plenty of time was giving for arguments.(Unlike Cali) So keep up the good fight. We will have our Freedom!

  5. Convincing arguments from all those that attended. My only complaint is some of those that attended didn’t dress professionally enough. If we are to be taken seriously in this legalization battle, then showing up in a hoodie or a t-shirt to government committee hearing does not reflect well regardless of how convincing your argument is. All in all good stuff.

  6. It was funny to see the opponents to these bills hashing up the same tired and dead arguments that have been disproven time and time again, many of which are simply issues that have to do with prohibition and not marijuana itself. The 9th grader who spoke did not seem to realize that regulation would make it harder for his class mates to obtain the herb. We the people are not giving up on the children, prohibition does not protect children it can actually cause more harm as the herb is not regulated and the last time I investigated the issue street dealers do not check I.D. to make sure you’re of a proper (and one day hopefully legal) age in order to buy their product. I dream for the day that I can enter a shop as a responsible adult and look on the package of marijuana and be able to read what is actually in the marijuana instead of having to trust someone that has no regulations in what can and cannot be put into my pot.

  7. I can’t believe this is happening! Go Washington! Thank you norml I know we still have a ways to go but man is this uplifting.

  8. I got to listen to most of the comments given today and agreed with what most of the people said. This discussion left me with a very hopeful feeling for Washington and the rest of the country will follow suit.

  9. It almost seems like what we have here is two states (Cali & Washington) who both realize the revenue potential, and are trying to beat each other to legalized production. Napa made a name for itself as thee premier wine growing region on the West Coast in the 70’s & 80’s due to being the first to produce excellent wines in conjunction with an astounding marketing campain, then came along Washington riding in like a champ in the 90’s. It seems like both realize to need to be the first in commercial growing as the most talented growers and botanists will take root in which ever state makes good with the protections of law.

  10. This is a big week for reform!!! Please tell your friends to help take action in gaining support if your in Washington state to push for reforming marijuana laws. One state at a time, WE CAN OVERCOME ADVERSITY.

  11. Like one of the posters before me said it is the people against law enforcement. Words can’t describe my anger at the law enforcement community. They have no solid argument so why don’t they just admit that prohibition means job security for them and a life with a criminal record and difficulty finding a job even with a college education for me just because when I was younger I chose weed over beer.

  12. I live in Washington. After cutting funding for education of all things I had lost all hope in our system. This is a spark of light in an otherwise dark over-politicized time here in WA.
    Competition between California and my state can only produce good things for everyone. All it takes is for one state to reach true freedom of choice with Cannabis. The others will follow. If Wa gets to be the first, I’m all for it. If Cali does it first, don’t be quick to move there, it will happen all over when one wins.
    This is for public safety, our youth, our freedom.

  13. I am hoping, praying, that this passes here in Washington, but I’m still a bit confused. i read that they are supposed to vote on this next week some time. what happens if/when this passes next week. i cant imagine that its going to be legal after next weeks vote. im assuming it goes somewhere else to be voted on. what exactly is going to happen after next weeks vote?
    [Paul Armentano responds: No, of course it won’t become law if approved by this Committee; it will simply be voted out of Committee. For a bill to become law it must be voted out of Committee (or Committees), approved on the floor, then the same process must happen in the other chamber. Then the House and Senate versions must be made compatible, voted on, and then the bill goes to the Governor, who has the option to veto. Passing legislation is a long, difficult process that gos well beyond passing one and only one legislative committee (though, admittedly, even passing marijuana law reform bills out of committee is difficult). If you want to become seriously invested in marijuana law reform, you (and others) need to become involved and educated in the legislative process.]

  14. IF the pols can be convinced that a lot of the default current structure of pot dealers are multi drug dealers. Meaning, people who need/smoke pot for various legit or simple “just smoke/like it” are exposed to these channels also selling crack, meth, pharma..et al. I would rather NOT be exposed to thgese other drugs while getting my ghanja as that element means violent. Ever come across a pot dealer (who was not a gang member) who carried guns? If you owe them money, they just call you on your cell and be annoying w/o threats of death.
    If the Government and police want crack, meth and such to be less available…allow the pot smokers to buy their stuff legally.

  15. Where can we go to sign the initiative for legalizing Marijuana? This way if it gets side stepped in the House or Senate we the voters can make it law.
    [Paul Armentano responds: Members of NORML’s Board of Directors and the NORML Legal Committee are the primary folks behind the proposed Washington state ballot initiative. Only registered voters in Washington state can sign the petitions, which must be circulated on the ground by volunteers or paid signature gatherers.]

  16. Who was the oriental gentleman (a professor I think) who spoke so eloquently in favor? He invoked Darwin and other rare arguments so concisely that I think the chairman was willing to expand his 90 seconds of time. Is his testimony published anywhere? In any event, great job WA!

  17. Everyone against the legalization of marijuana or drugs in general is anti-freedom. The freedom for individuals in a free society to make decisions for themselves whether for better or for worse so long as their behavior does not physically or financially harm others. This argument can be extended to gambling and prostitution or any other victimless crimes. I would like to see the freedom argument touted more than all of the others.

  18. This (and also the recent action in Cali) is great progress for the cause. Thank you to Norml and company for not only bringing us this news but for making it happen. Ya’ll are awsome!

  19. im thinkin by the time this law hits the streets, many states will be following, once you take one domino away the rest must fall

  20. I am happy to hear we are close to legalization. I had an idea to get a bunch of us for legalization to move to every state to vote on it. But that would be time, money. I also thought of moving to where it bacame legal. But then I would not be able to vote in the state I live in now (Oregon). I will visit California and Washington, but stay here, because we have some good things coming here soon.

  21. “why is it always everyone versus law enforcement?? gah…so annoying!”
    Here is my best answer to your question. I could be completely off base in saying this, but I actually asked myself the same question when reading the California Assembly opponents against the recent control, regulation, and education vote. I, honestly, believe it has to do with law enforcement jobs. You legalize marijuana and people who work on drug taskforces, cops working the beat, and DEA agents could potentially lose jobs. Like I said, I don’t know that this is their reasoning, but it could certainly explain their being up-in-arms against any type of decriminalization of marijuana.
    If my belief is correct, then it is a sad day in this country when law enforcement is more concerned for themselves than the greater good of the country. However, law enforcement are people and people look out for number 1 first and foremost. It just sucks that so many of these individuals are willing to sacrifice their fellow Americans when these are the same people they are sworn to protect.

  22. i thought it was great….the opposing arguments were pretty idiotic. i would destroy anyone of those old school cops in a debate. that one said something like, even though its more readily available in schools most kids choose not to use it……What sense does that make?

  23. TALK IS CHEAP ALL WE EVER HEAR IS TALK TALK TALK YEARS TALK TALK TALK GO TO JAIL LOSE YOUR JOB FOR WHAT MARIJUANA I’ve been smoking weed for years no I’m not addicted no I don’t smoke every day no its not a problem in my life. No I don’t think it wise to smoke ever day No I don’t think it wise to drink every day. Marijuana has never given me a hang over or made me vomit. Yes smoke of the newer strains are a lot stronger but so is a shot compared to a beer. This should not even be a Issue marijuana should be flat out legal today!!!!!

  24. Whoa, it’s like the entire west coast is in a race for legalization.
    So many lives ruined by prohibition, I can’t believe it’s taken this long, but here we are. KEEP FIGHTING!!!

  25. I enjoyed listening to the hearings in WA and CA! Its real change but real slow. Every year 800,000 thousand lives are profoundly impacted by this ignorant racist prohibition. We are still to far from a final bill and in two states not close to my close minded state. The big news channels as well as shows like The Daily Show. Really needs to pick up the message so OUR issue can be the DEFINING issue in the Election of 2010.

  26. Also like to say the smoke in the seventies was not all rag weed like they keep saying some of that was excellent Colombian Gold come to mind also hash was readily available

  27. wouldn’t it be nice if we had a national petition for all americans to sign on for? i bet it would gather enough signatures and would pass on a nation wide vote. it would by pass all the lawyers and politicians who care only for control, whether thru taxes or own personal interests. that’s what it’s all about now, how to gain control of a national movement that is spreading thru education and understanding, one state at a time. you’ll see who the drug nazis are, very soon, they’ll be screaming for more tax dollars to increase funding to fight the “war” on drugs. if we knew who and where their PAC funds came from, you’ll see big pharmacy, big tobacco, big alcohol, and big government buying a vote for their interests. it will take “we the people” to continue to fight thru the legislative process, whether by petition, or legislative bill to win. the battle is never over, you’ll have to keep voting and voicing, even after we win a skirmish. at least we’ve drawn a line in the sand. one state at a time.

  28. To quote the amazing Phil Collins “I can feel it coming in the air tonight…” Thank you NORML and all my fellow brothers and sisters who are fighting against the evil and unjust prohibition of marijuana. Big brother cannot keep us down forever!!! Washington and other states are doing it and it’s only a matter of time. We the people have the power and the oppressors know it!

  29. I find it funny that the only people against legalization are law enforcement, why do they want it to be illegal…. simple more money for them, same things with the DEA, if marijuana becomes legal people in that department are gonna lose jobs.

  30. the federal controlled substance act of 1970 has long been ridiculously politicized, completely out of touch and currently VULNERABLE to public appeal.
    what’s being done to FORCE the dea to get real?

  31. I don’t see either one of these bills passing, and I’m not so sure that I want them to.
    As they say the devil is in the details.
    I am a MedMar patient, will these new laws change my right to grow my own ?IF I were unable ,not getting any younger you know, to grow my own do I have to pay a tax on my medicine ? Will dispensaries still exist?
    IF the government allows people to grow their own how the hell do they think they are going to make any money,because ,let me tell you ,if they allow personal growing weed will become as ubiquitous as the rain around here.

  32. This is great news, and yes eastern Washington is for it! in a news poll here in Spokane %56 were in favor, %36 were against, %8 needed more info. The thing that saddens me most is the fact that they only see the smoking side of things on both sides, and fail to understand what marijuana can do for the environment, our kids, our economy. We have 2 bills one is to decriminalize marijuana for adults, The other is for decrim and the state to sell in liquor stores (all liquor stores in Washington are owned by the state), and if those fail there is a petition that needs I think around 241,000 State voters to have all out legalization on the Nov. Ballot totally bypassing the first few steps that most likely collapse into a slide anyways.

  33. i gotta say that that although i am not entirely done watching this, that this is goingvery well indeed, also as stated by others, some of these people really shouldhave cleaned up a bit before heading there lol it kindmade us look like dirty pot-head stereotypes, but everyone did great and i applaud everyone for it 🙂

  34. I’m a senior at high school and will be eighteen in two weeks. First off it is very very easy to obtain marijuana, alcohol on the other hand is fairly difficult. I can get marijuana in a matter of minutes through out the day but alcohol on the other hand it, you have to know someone old enough that’s willing to buy it for you and hope its not Sunday. If marijuana was legal and age restrictions applied to it, i guarantee it would harder to obtain.
    One of the most recent policies in my high school is drug testing for students who park on campus and are involved in extra curricular activities. Now people like me or more willing to do drugs such as Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, shrooms…etc that the school doesn’t test for. I’d honestly rather smoke a bowl and laugh and eat for hours rather than drink or take other drugs but with the school receiving wasted tax dollars on government grants to “protect a safe learning environment” by drug testing it makes it difficult.
    Obviously i know, because i haven’t reached some certain age, smoking cannabis isn’t very good but since im a teen its basically expected do something like that but id rather stick with marijuana.
    One other point, I’m enrolled in multiple AP classes at school and have taken pre-ap through out out my high school career and i can honestly say marijuana has not effected anything in my learning environment/grades. By the way the student and my close friend who received “most likely to succeed” award smokes (#3 in class, out of 450).

  35. I was surprised to hear the Bar’s supporting even decriminalization, because you know a ton of money is made by them defending victims. I wasn’t surprised to see the the people getting directly supported by the drug prohibition money, opposing.

  36. why was the NORML rep against the bill?? just because he didn’t like how it was written doesn’t mean he shouldn’t support it, there bill will go through many revisions before passing anyway.
    [Paul Armentano responds: Good question. National NORML testified in favor of these measures, and is working with the sponsors to make them even stronger pieces of legislation. The witness in question spoke without authority or approval from NORML, did not represent NORML’s opinion, and had no authority to say he was representing a NORML affiliate. He has been informed of this and told that he may not invoke the NORML name. We regret the confusion this person, acting on his own behalf and not on behalf of NORML, may have caused.]

  37. seriously,
    ok lets look at this issue…
    everyone here is talking about smoking, blah blah blah.
    the real issue on the table is regulation.
    do people realize that IF legalization happens, there will be alot of people out of work… communities will fall. Do ciggarette companies support thier local economies. NO. Look at Northern California an area where the timber and fishing economies disappeared over night… well you can’t tell that walking around the town, there is a wonderful natural food store, booming local businesses. Now this sure isn’t because the international fishing companies and timber companies felt bad about a local economy dying off. Its because there has been another business there beneath the radar. Now this is public knowledge at this point, but it IS the marijuana growers that have allowed this area to thrive and survive. Legalization was brought up in cali this fall and people were scared. Look at prohabition in the 1930’s people in areas where the local economy had drastically died off due to the influx of the industrial revolution or the great depression were able to live on…
    here we are AGAIN at the area of a major depression in the united states economy and what are we doing the same that was done 80 years ago with prohabition… there are people still not affected (which is NOT true by the recession) pot prices and sales are dropping drastically, why because people cannot afford to buy pot at rates when the economy was better. Hell they can barely afford groceries now.
    So where do we turn. Ohh well, lets legalize. NO, lets keep medical laws going the way they are. Regualated. Local growers can prosper without fear of law enforcement and people can smoke. GET YOUR MED CARD.
    IF LEGALIZATION PASSES BE PREPARED FOR A HUGE INCREASE IN PRICE.
    BE PREPARED FOR TRIMMERS TO LOOSE THIER JOBS, AS CORPORATIONS WILL BRING IN ELECTRONIC TRIM MACHINES
    WATCH YOUR LOCAL ECONOMYS WHERE POT GROWERS CAN SUPPORT DISSIPATE AWAY, WHILE MULITINATIONAL CORPORATIONS TAKE OVER PRODUCTION AND HOARD THIER PROFITS.
    LEGALIZATION IS NOT THE ANSWER, THINK PAST YOUR BONG AND LOOK AT THE LOCAL IMPACT OF THE MARIJUANA PRODUCING POPULATION.
    YES THEY DO MAKE $$$ AND GO ON VACATION AND DRIVE NICE CARS. WELL THATS THE SAME AS ANY GOOD BUSINESSMAN, OR BUSINESS OWNER
    IF WE TALK ABOUT LEGALIZATION, LETS TALK ABOUT ANTI-CORPORATE REGULATION. AND ALLOW THE LOCAL GROWERS TO PAY TAXES AND KEEP RJ MORRIS AND JOHNSON AND JOHNSON OR EVEN MERK PHARMACEUTICALS OUT.
    PLEASE LET ME HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS!

  38. As long as we have establishment politicians (both repub and dem, like there’s a difference) then this does not stand a chance. IF it comes out of committee, it has to pass the house, then the other chamber, then signed by the governor, and if vetoed then pass a super majority in both houses.
    I agree with the NORML plan of working with the system we have… but to do this we need to do it with our votes.

  39. I have been labeled a Chauvinistic by the NORML…so I’ll make this brief. I was WRONG, apparently there is a reason for a women’s alliance……to escape possible sexual abusive activities and language….hint, hint, MPP story………….
    [Editor’s note: You may or not be a chauvinist…but what does the director of MPP and his admitted inability to control himself, creating a hostile work environment for MPP’s staff have to do with NORML and the fact NORML actually works with and respects women?
    The NORML Women’s Alliance grew out of women meeting at the NORML national conference in San Francisco in September expressing their concerns about the need for women to have a greater voice in cannabis law reform advocacy (especially from a mother’s point of view) and after the mainstream media started publishing so-called ‘stoner stilleto’ articles, that were later picked up by The Today Show, Good Morning America, etc…
    The NORML Women’s Alliance has emerged organically and independent of whatever problems maybe happening with MPP’s director.]

  40. if cannabis becomes legal to posess, i cannot see our government allowing us to grow as well. you all know our government will “need to hold the reins ” and declare growing still against the law so, they can regulate it totally. if were gonna throw the “bate to regulate”then, you can damn sure bet you’ll be buyin from a dispencerry . which is ok because we must support important buisness folk that will keep us tastin some of the best herb to come.well, maybe…..once again, our government my restrict the amount of thc that each plant can produce…..i can see all this shit comin…….it will be awhile yet like paul says…..their not goin to give up that easy after all these years…then again….neither are we…….

  41. Props for George Rohrbacher. Thank you on behalf of our community for promoting the bills in Washington.

  42. If you are against marijuana legalization you support crime and terrorism, plain and simple. The feds would have you believe otherwise. They’re full of crap.

  43. PLEASE EVERYONE READ THE TEXT OF BOTH BILLS 2401 AND 1177
    THESE ARE NOT,I REPEAT NOT GOOD ,IF I READ IT RIGHT HB2401 WILL REMOVE THE LEGAL PROTECTION OF OUR STATES(WA.) MEDICAL MARIJUANA LAW , READ ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM AND THIS LAW,2401,AMENDS 69.51RCW ,AND IT STRIKES OUT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE BILL,
    I DID SMOKE A BOWL A WHILE AGO AND I MIGHT BE PARANOID , BUT PLEASE READ IT FOR YOURSELF.
    GO TO….
    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2009-10/Pdf/Bills/House%20Bills/2401.pdf
    AND START READING AT SEC.86,PAGE74..

  44. LLLou…
    thank you for promoting that link you are 100% and again thanks for pointing this out I neglected that in my post.
    Lets keep this discussion going guys, this is the area where change can happen.
    Please lets keep fighting against legalization, these medical laws are great and helping really sick people…reversing the legislation already in place could affect us negatively if “legalization” goes array.
    it would be difficult to put back in place a previous legislative act.
    [Paul Armentano responds: “Please let’s keep fighting against legalization.” Sorry, you are in the wrong place. NORML also fights for the rights of non-patients to no longer face arrest, prosecution, and incarceration for using cannabis responsibly. This is legalization.]

  45. IF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR FREEDOM TO GROW/POSSESS AND CONSUME CANNABIS YOU REALLY NEED TO READ THE TEXT OF THESE BILLS. YOU WILL SEE THAT HB2434(http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=2434&year=2009) BY THE WEASEL REP.HALER WILL REVERSE THIS STATES MED-MJ LAW. HB1177(http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=1177&year=2009)
    DOES NOT ALLOW PERSONAL CULTIVATION,,,SO YOU STILL HAVE TO SUPPORT THE DRUG CARTELS.
    HB2401 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=2401&year=2009)
    WILL NOT ALLOW PERSONAL CULTIVATION ,WILL ALSO REPEAL OUR EXISTING MED-MJ LAW….
    PEOPLE, THESE ARE BAD BILLS, YOU HAVE TO READ THE DETAILS….
    SUPPORT THE INITIATIVE THAT WILL SOON BE OUT TO PUT IT TO A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE….

  46. The bill calls for the establishment of a license to “farmers of marijuana” at a cost of $500 per year. In addition, the digest on the bill’s page you linked to explicitly states civil and criminal penalties for cultivation will be removed. Even if small-scale personal cultivation is not allowed, it seems worst-case scenario it would be a licensing issue and definitely not criminal.
    What purpose do medical marijuana laws serve if it can be freely grown, bought and sold?

  47. MR.X
    I do not read anywhere in the text of the bill where it makes personal cultivation legal. The digest can say whatever it wants, the ACTUAL text of the BILL is what becomes law.
    I may be wrong on this, but I will need to be shown where I am mistaken.
    ANYWAY, I THINK THAT THE INITIATIVE THAT WILL BE OUT SOON ,AND HOPEFULLY PASSED BY THE PEOPLES VOTE IN NOVEMBER IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO. IT MAKES IT VERY SIMPLE, CANNABIS WILL NOT BE ILLEGAL TO POSSESS IF YOU ARE OVER 21 YEARS OLD.

  48. Go to 1:25 in the video and watch!
    Lee Newberry was a Washington NORML representative and he said NO on both bills because they’re “not good enough”?! So no progress is better than some progress, hm? Good to know that the thousands of people who donate to NORML have their voices heard! I was going to become a member of NORML today, but luckily I saw this first, and I’ve decided against it. I don’t know if he was trying to make a point or what, but that is insulting to everything we stand for here and I will not donate to NORML or buy any merchandise thanks to his unreasonable dissent. This is a huge issue, and expecting either bill to be all-or-nothing is not only unrealistic but incredibly stupid. What a joke, Lee Newberry should be ashamed.
    [Editor’s note: Mr. Newberry does not represent NORML. Mr. Newberry, at the time, was representing a NORML chapter in Washington. To watch NORML’s official spokesperson at the hearings, watch the testimony of former Washington state senator and current national board member George Rohrbacher.]

  49. Well now looks like the gang bangers are going to get there way. Its not bad enough people get waisted on alcohol now its going to be pot heads running people over with there cars, I dont care what you idiots think, Alcohol frys the brain cells and so does pot.
    It seems to me that everyone whos in favor for this must be really high. After you pass this and make it legal then you will see what happens next, Da,Da,DA.
    Boy this really is so stupid to evan consider makeing that crap legal.I guess the drug lords at the state capital need the tax dollars, Da

  50. wow “guy young” you are scared of pot being legal in the age of national security, illegal wire taps, random searches, big corperations and lobbiests that can buy our govrnment, cops that that can confinscate your cash with suspicion only. i could ramble on all day about the reality of the usa, so called “free country” .be a man grow a pair ditch the ignorance, stand up for what america is all about FREEDOM!!!. our freedoms have been slipping away becaue of fear and corruption for to long. lol sorry for the rant, bottom line is i have been smoking pot for 15 years and i have 2 parking tickets..period!! never ran some one over never beat my kids or wife..

  51. Its not just the taxes from the users and smokers you want to think about. They will not only have the taxes from that but there will be taxes from everything else that can be produced from this great plant. We can make rope which is taxed, food, paper, clothes, all of this can and will be taxed, not to mention the smokers which will be taxed. No one will loose their jobs because the dea officers and special task forces designed to fight the war on drugs. Will use their energy towards worse drugs, the drugs that are truly ruining our counrty!! Did you know that 1sq meeter of marijuana can produce as much oxygen as a 60ft tall fir?

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