Cananbidiol (CBD), a non-psychotropic cannabinoid, alleviates psychotic symptoms and may hold promise as an alternative antipsychotic treatment, according to a review published in the November issue of the journal Neuropsychopharmacology.
Investigators in the Netherlands and in the United Kingdom reviewed preclinical and clinical data on the use of CBD as an antipsychotic agent. Authors reported that both animal and human studies document the ability of CBD to mitigate symptoms of psychosis. Specifically, CBD administration is associated with improved symptoms in clinical evaluations of patients with schizophrenia, Parkinson’s disease, and ketamine-induced dissociative and psychotic symptoms.
Investigators also highlighted a 2012 double-blind, randomized placebo-controlled trial assessing CBD versus the prescription anti-psychotic drug amisulpride in 42 subjects with schizophrenia and acute paranoia. Authors reported that both CBD and the prescription drug were associated with “equally significant clinical improvement” in this patient population, but that cannabidiol “possessed significantly less side effects.”
Researchers concluded: “[E]vidence from several study domains suggests that CBD has some potential as an antipsychotic treatment. … Given the high tolerability and superior cost-effectiveness, CBD may prove to be an attractive alternative to current antipsychotic treatment.”
Previous human trials assessing the administration of CBD in healthy human subjects report that the cannabinoid is “safe and well tolerated.”
Separate investigations of CBD, primarily in animal models, have documented the cannabinoid to possess a variety of therapeutic qualities, including anti-inflammatory, anti-diabetic, anti-epileptic, anti-cancer, and bone-stimulating properties. Recently, the FDA approved the experimental use of CBD extracts for the treatment of a rare form of intractable pediatric epilepsy known as Dravet syndrome. Preliminary clinical trials assessing the safety and tolerability of the compound in children are scheduled to begin imminently.
Full text of the study, entitled “Cannabidiol as a potential treatment for psychosis,” appears online here.
Wow!!! It was marijuana that have been condemned as the demon drug that made people crazy. The lies are coming full circle.
Thanks
NORML
I’m so appreciative for this type of platform, it gives us all opportunity to openly share our experiences without fear of shame. It is no longer a news that there is permanent cure to schizophrenia. My daughter was diagnosed of schizophrenia 15 years ago, over those time, I spent more time in hospital than out of hospital without much improvement. It was difficult and humbling, but we’re so proud that we’ve done it all to save her, finally she sign herself into using CONSUMMO treatment. She now think more clearly. She has grown as a person in all facets of life. She more compassionate, intelligent, wise, sociable, and actionable! For more detail on Consummo, kindly visit this blog curetoschizophrenia.blogspot.com, And if you have used this medicine, I will advice you create an awareness to help others, because, every family that has a mentally ill patient needs help. Thank you.
I hope this study finally shuts up the real crazies out there that are going around saying that marijuana causes schizophrenia. That’s one of the most inhumane and thinly veiled lies of crapped-up government propaganda I ever heard. If it was true, we should have had THOUSANDS of cases of schizophrenia on the rise these last few decades with all the weed prohibition has pushed through the streets. The irony is the one’s who actually need weed the most, such as schizophrenics, are the most vulnerable members of society who could not sustain their consumption of medicinal marijuana without help. Heck, with all the side effects they get from prescription meds, some of em don’t even have enough sense to get out of the sun in the middle of July without help. It’s so insulting, irresponsible and … evil… to have one’s own government suggest that marijuana causes psychosis, especially in the wake of Sanjay Gupta’s documentary, “Weed.” (Thank God the Denver Post is covering the story on the marijuana-refugees in Colorado! Perhaps a “Stop the Seizures” campaign? Or too bold?)Clearly, Congress has to realize we all know the truth by now:
THC is psychoactive.
CBDs are non-psychoactive.
Together they make good medicine.
But this (once again) FOREIGN study reveals a greater state of conflict within our research-depraved legal publications in the U.S.; The mental health crisis we’re facing as a nation has passed the tipping point and marijuana is a real solution. If gun-control lobbies can’t get a universal back-round check passed the NRA, perhaps joining the momentum of the medicinal marijuana train could help reduce the violence?
First they say it will make you go crazy. Now we find out it could help people be more sane. I think a green goose just walked over Nixon’s grave again. Keep em coming Mary Jane, their lies and treachery will be their own self-inflicted downfall. FDA: get with the program!
Cannabis is as close as nature comes to providing a panacea for humans and the planet. It can be abundant and cheap in a world that embraces, rather than fears it.
If we didn’t need truthful, accurate studies to prove cannabis was dangerous then why do we need them to prove its efficacy?
Boucher ~ 2013
The FDA is a money whore, who want to make sure that their political buddies keep useful cures away from people. At least until they can patient a synthetic version of compounds found in nature. They act as though they have a monopoly on health and healing and no one but no one can possibly know anything that they don’t already know. Talk about a god complex.
If folks had not pushed for the past 40 years on the benefits of cannabis and if the internet had not exposed the usefulness of CBD on epilepsy, then the FDA would be insisting on it’s label of “snake oil” now.
I ask this, how can the FDA and the NIDA be taken seriously? Until they are transparent or if they can answer directly to the people of this nation, I take everything they say and do with skepticism.
I heard about the marijuana refugees, Dravet Syndrome,and CBD on the Mclaughen group. What I want to know is just how fast Idaho
how fast Idaho Senator Chuck Winder, sponser of Idaho’s Anti-marijuana law can backpedal. I also want to know if the insurance companies under Obama are going to help with co-pay on the cost of treatment. We got some very sick children here. Lets get these people some help.
More and more, it seems marijuana is one medicinal remedy that works well and works for a tremendous range of illnesses. I wonder just how much we can save on health care costs when marijuana is finally legalized and studied thoroughly.
I don’t know. The more you know. The more insane.
Check this out, unless you already seen it.
http://www.newsweek.com/will-pot-barons-cash-legalization-65259
I know personally, that this study’s claims are true. I suffer from depression and anxiety. I take a couple of hits of cannabis and I am not depressed anymore. I no longer feel anxious.I have been smoking cannabis for 45 years. Now my dream is coming true. Thank you NORML! Make sure you don’t throw away any Christmas cards; there may be a nice, fat check in one of those envelopes.
On that note, I am reaching out to everyone on this blog and all you fellow tokers of cannabis to send NORML a nice fat Christmas, Hanukkah,Kwanzaa check. NORML needs our support,everyone should be helping,get proactive and send NORML some financial support. Put your money where your mouth is. Help NORML, Help us. Just think where would be without NORML. Thank God that is not a realty.I am going to pledge $20.00 a month. You can afford $.67 cents a day.NORML really needs a lot of money right now it is a crucial time we have to keep the momentum up. Some of the remaining states are starting to swing our way. They need NORML’s attention now. OK it is time for grandma’s smoke break. Do your part to legalize Cannabis. Give generously.
Hello? Did you guys read the study? They say marijuana does make people crazy, but that marijuana with higher CBD ratios do not. However, the number of people it affects negatively are quite few, while those it helps are quite large. Marijuana has a “built in” safety mechanism in the form of CBD.
The difference here being, when it makes someone go crazy, it has a lasting impression on everyone, while the 80 other people it helps well it isn’t so obvious as no one knew about their aches and pains or anxiety/depression issues in the first place.
This is why people buying marijuana need to have choices about which varieties they want. People want or need marijuana for different issues. Strains that are really good for depression might have next to no use for helping chemotherapy patients. And people are different, what works good for one person might be ineffective for another because they have slightly different body chemistry. So again when people can choose their medicine, they’ll be able find the right CBD to THC ratio instead of it being choosen for them.
Since Nixon signed the Controlled Substances Act of 1970, the U.S. has steadily been spending less on drug treatment, prevention and mental illness while spending more on drug enforcement and interdiction. Nearly a third of all inmates in U.S. prisons are mentally ill, and half of all our homeless. They are being forced prescription medications whose side effects make them more ill, addicted and vulnerable to blame, and less self-sufficient. Meanwhile not a SINGLE U.S. prison in this entire nation is free of so-called “illegal” drugs.
The legal drugs prescribed to the mentally ill in some cases make them more violent, especially when they run out. That’s how they end up in prison. We put them there by turning are backs on them at our city subways and ignoring the treatment facilities ripe with corruption and fraud; by “waiting” for the drug wars to end or for someone else to put up the fight…
But we can’t wait anymore. Americans are hurting, desperately putting the pieces together of their lives in the wake of so much school violence. And when the political rhetoric dies down, somewhere in the violence of silence, we see what prohibition has done; Our eyes open and our hearts wake up like a collective consciousness across valleys and rivers and we say, “Mr. President, End this made-to-fail War on Drugs.”
Genesis 9:3.
“Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.”
Cannabidiol Holds Promise For Treating Police and DEA agents, It may even help treat a good number of politicians 😉
@ Miles, yeah it is sorta funny how one main things that might help police with their aggression issues is banned from their use.
Not very helpful at all.
@Dave Evans – You are right on about people needing to be able to choose from strains that best fit their needs; which is impossible for many who must get their supply through the black market Further, in the interst of public health, the cannabis would be a much cleaner prodict if it was regulated and checked for purity; I beleive a lot of illegal street dealers don’t care about that…
Yeah Elaine, the “negative side effects” of the black market are so much worse the barely there side effects of marijuana itself.
Urinalysis does not differentiate between the cannabidiol and cannabinol.
I’ve been smoking marijuana since i was 19 years old and guess what gang, I’m freaking nuts! I master-wack in airport bathrooms during lunch break, I embezzle public funds,I molest young boys in the locker room, I smoke crack with undercover cops, and throw drunken temper tantrums. T-t t ta,that’s all folks nuts!
One of many healing traits of marijuana. Keep up the fight NORML!!!!! We will be free of the bs drug war soon. We are soooo close!
I’m going to clear some things up, i hope, and play objective here, even though, being a schizophrenic, i’m more then slightly biased. it Is true that in Some cases, marijuana has had negative effects in people with schizophrenia, and other such severe chemical imbalances, HOWEVER, not All schizophrenics have had negative reactions, and it Is true that More testing needs to be done. There’s more then just the THC and CBD chemicals in the plant, and we need to know Exactly what Specifically does what, why, and how we can isolate and extract those chemicals that Can be beneficial, and strip away the unnecessary ones causing the problems. I, myself have Never had a negative reaction, and have over 8 months worth of journal entries, marking over a years worth of progress with my own personal trails, because I needed to know. I grew up with childhood schizophrenia, and so was on heavy medications from a somewhat early age. I’d been on those medications long enough to feel severe negative physical side effects, having constant kidney trouble and migraines, among other things, that cleared right up, almost immediately after Stopping usage of pharmaceutical drugs, and once I started the MMJ trials, I found they worked Better then those pills I was getting shoved in my face, with almost no side effects at all. Problem is, I can’t Truly be a MMJ patient, because I don’t live where that would be possible, and I’m on a fixed income, and though I could eliminate the need for a fixed income, I’d need to pass a drug screen to get a decent job, to be able to pay bills, eat, and save money to move to even the closest MMJ state, which I refuse to do. I refuse to suffer potentially permanent physical damage for Temporary psychological relief, Especially when a healthier alternative exists and is readily available. So While I DO want this for myself, and those like me, I also believe we Need to know more, to get people the Best possible help, because We Need It. We, too, are the people, and we too, deserve better.
beware the pied piper >>>PDUb Roli-C, ya erd the sherm, pcp, krystal Joint!!!
@ Red Cloud, thank-you for explaining how marijuana affects you. I don’t believe what is curently called “schizophrenia” isn’t homogenous, sort of like cancer. There are different kinds.
I’m not sure we need to “strip” the wrong chemicals out and turn the plant into a drug. However, for some very specific treatments, that is exactly how it should and can be done.
For the most part though, specific breeds of the plant can be developed to treat specific diseases or conditions. The plant breeds very quickly in the right hands. Several generations a year. I’m sure we can breed very specific kinds of marijuana just as fast as drug companies can develop and test their new pills.
Also, if it turns out most of the people with schizophrenia who had bad reactions to marijuana actually took some bad bud that was sprayed with something… Well we’ve looking at it wrong the whole time.
@ Dave Evans As I said before, we Need to know more. Literally, peoples lives and well-being depend on it. Every test possible needs to be done to find out what may be causing these negative effects, and if it is in fact caused by the plant itself, or some kind of contaminant, and then, perhaps, find out what to do about it. I like to say I’m optimistic, and that we’ll get there eventually, but I live in south louisiana, where dumbfuck jindal vetoed hydroelectricity for the sketchiest of reasons. My only real hope is that Someone will pick up where I left off when I’m gone.
I thought that Obama was going to be led by Science.
Write the White House and demand an end to Nixon’s unconstitutional Prohibition.
Li, it is a free country. Obama cannot stop the War on Drugs, just like Nixon could not start it. Nixon had the law passed to target druggies and then added marijuana to the list because he was paranoid.
If Obama tried to stop the DEA from illegal activities, congress would feel no choice but to retire him. Because Congress runs the country and passes all the laws. Obama executes the law. He doesn’t write it. And the fact he will not work on this problem goes to show there is something wrong with his brain. He has no problem with innocent people rotting in jail–they don’t count and Obama is just another cracker.
Do something so I don’t have to feel like you’re such a damn pussy Barry!
The whole thing about not attacking the states that legalized is already what the consitution says. By attacking, you’d be breaking the law; just to support a failed social experiment. And it failed decades ago. Hello!!!!!!!!!!! The Federal Government should start supporting marijuana users, but are just too lazy to do their jobs.
I thank you all who are working for our medication ‘mmj”legalizing for all us. I have 6 medical condition who cant be releived from pills, but i tried mmj, and the pain i feel was wiped out. My fibromyalgia pain within 15 min .disappeared, it would help more if i was using it theraputically, so i really need it bad for many of my illnesses, so thank you for your work and keep on passing the truth about bud to haters -im from illinois and was counting the days till the new law allowed registration card for my advanced fibromyalgia and intersistal cystitis, among others. My pain from bleeding ulcers in my bladder, i have nothing that helps this kind of pain, but five minutes and it was gone!:-):-):-) however i. Was happy. Happy, happy, that pain usually drives me to my bedroom. But once i had this mmj i could get up and walk with no trouble! Whats wrong with this country is all the lies they perpetrate about mmj, but im a beleiver but have to wait many months before dispensories open. Sso whats the hold up? Cant the government try to understand we are suffering and bedridden because of the pain! I need this and my dr prescribed dronabinol or mmj, but im a 54 yrs and dont get out much, its very hard to score mjj illegal, im too old for all this illegal crap! I need this to have a quality not quanitity life.theres the hardship!!! Legalize for everyone!
It is within our power, and it is Our Right, as the people, the governed, to not only change How we are governed, but also who governs us, as it is written in the Declaration of Independence. Seriously, you All need to read that, and on other legal documents, that allegedly assure what rights we have, Then, come together, As a collective, and Demand change. This is supposed to be a country Of the people, By the people, For the people, not Of a person, By some people, For the rest, that’s fucking bullshit, but that’s what we’re getting Now, and we, The People, Need to do better, with actual Actions. Stop talking about what ifs and whys, and figure out Hows and Whens, and then Do it. That’s what I’m trying to do in my state. trying to get a large collective of likeminded people, to over take our house of representatives and governor, because these people do Not represent or speak for the collective majority, and thus should not be in a position to do so. We The People CAN make change happen, but we need Actions, as Well as words.
I have a Brain Injury and I’ve heard weed is known to help people with brain injury instead of traditional drugs. I can’t afford to travel to colorado to try it but has anyone else ever heard of a doctor giving a perscription for it to a brain injured person? I want to try it just once to see if it is good for me.
My son has asked me to educate myself about marijuana use and legalizing it. I have agreed to do so. First I want to identify myself as an an anti-marijuana individual. But also as an open-minded educated woman. My son had his first psychotic episode Oct. 11, 2013. He was 18 yrs. old. Pryor to that had graduated early. Had completed his CNA certification, attending community college and working part time. He had a roller coaster ride of a last year. He has been diagnosed Bi-Polar II and substance abuser. The only drug found in his system at the time of his episode was marijuana (THC) and to clear it up. My son “is not” crazy. He has a physical illness,(like diabetes) or any other chronic illness. It just happens to effect his brain. Also, I have not read that marijuana causes schizophrenia or any other mental illness for that manner. however I have read many studies and had many accounts that marijuana effects the brain of those with mental illnesses very differently then those that do not have a mental illness. In my sons case it was a very negative effect. Also those with mental illness tend to turn to drugs and alcohol as a way of self medicating themselves and their unwanted thoughts only to make themselves worse.. Just like gun control, I wish we had stronger laws. Weapons should never get in the hands of someone with a mental illness. nor do i believe any drug should, without proper supervision of a professional. But they both do. Don’t they. My son has a medical marijuana licence now. For no reason. They can be bought just like a gun. Ask me where his life is now! Ask me what is becoming of my smart boy now! So all of you out there fighting for your rights, tell me, how much education on this subject or the subject of mental illness do you all really have? You will have to do a lot more convincing and a lot more proving and educating before you will ever convince me or people like me. move to Colorado, they are happy with the extra taxes they are getting from the legalization. Doesn’t that figure. All about the money!!!
[Editor’s note: So…are you actually trying to educate yourself about your son’s mental illness and what alternative medicines he maybe benefiting from as compared to conventional pharmaceuticals, or, are you simply coming to a pro-cannabis reform webpage spouting off about CO and legalization (are you still in the learning mode–still not matured from your self-described ‘anti-marijuana individual’)?
You’ve conflated two unrelated things: your son’s mental illness (which you acknowledge was not caused by cannabis) and citizens gaining legal access to the drug as the end of the failed cannabis prohibition era ends.
NORML’s non-medical advice is to largely concentrate on your son’s mental illness, and don’t get hung up in whether you’re ‘pro’ or ‘anti’ marijuana? Are you anti lithium, valproate or carbamazepine too? Have you seen the side effects and financial costs of these drugs (the drugs your son is likely forgoing, while possibly getting better relief from cannabis)?
With or without cannabis legalization, patients with mental illness using cannabis benefit from being monitored. NORML argues that legalization serves the needs of these patients better than treating them like criminals under prohibition laws, and that regulation particularly well serves the mental health community.
If you’ve not already read a 2007 NORML white paper about cannabis use, mental illness and prohibition, please see here.]
@Brian Berry
I’m very sorry to hear that, I’m more or less in the same boat, being born with a severe chemical imbalance, and being on a fixed income because of it, I also, can not afford to move to Colorado, despite it having almost the Exact same cost of living as the state I currently reside in, since it also costs money I don’t have, just to Travel there, much less putting up a deposit for a new apartment, service charges in setting up utilities and what not, trust me, I feel your pain.
I don’t know how to answer your question though…I know in My state, it’s “Technically” legal for doctors to give prescriptions for medical marijuana, however, the red tape, and hoops even the Doctors have to go through make that choice a near impossibility, so much so, that I’ve never even Heard of someone having legal medical marijuana in my state (that’s not to say it hasn’t happened at all, just that it’s likely hood is so rare, that I’ve never caught sight or heard word of it).
You could check your local laws, firstly, to see what kind of restrictions may be on the medical use of marijuana, what kinds of red tape you may have to cross, and then ask your doctor directly, what their opinion is, and perhaps find Other doctors and get second opinions. Of course, if all else fails, there’s always the street pharmacists, though I wouldn’t advice dealing with them, if it can be helped. Perhaps ask friends or family who use the plant, and write in a journal, your experiences with it, how it made you feel, how it affected you, during and after usage. That’s more or less what I’ve been trying to do, I’ve got more then a years worth of notes made, clearly stating how much healthier I’ve felt, how much more Lucid I’ve been, and how I’ve been able to handle people much better, and with more stability, then with any previous pharmaceutical. I know this probably isn’t the answer or response you were hoping for, but I hope it at least helps in some small way.
@For the Love of My Son
I can understand where you’re coming from, and if you took the time to read, you know that I have First have experience with the issue of mental illness, and I plainly state that marijuana is in No way for all cases. It is Not a cure-all, but a potentially beneficial medication, and one that is a healthier alternative to most pharmaceutical drugs.
I’m well aware that My particular case, and My particular reactions to the pills doctors gave me, or the plant street vendors give me, are Not universal, even in my own classification of specific mental illness. I clearly stated that, for us to truly benefit, we Need to Kn ow MORE. The way we make progress, as humans, is Trial and Error. We Learn from our Mistakes, and grow because of them. It was a Mistake for your son to use this medicine, but that does Not mean that it is a Universal mistake, even within the mentally ill community. You can’t deny the fact that Some people need to be medicated, and some don’t, and if you try to medicate those that don’t, you will get a negative reaction, even if you medicate someone who needs medication, with the Wrong medicine. You won’t give a person with anxiety issues and anti-psychotic, would you? No, that would be awful. I once had a doctor that tried to treat my insomnia with a hypnotic….a schizophrenic, with a hypnotic. Think about that. This was a doctor, who knew my case, had my file, and yet Still made a mistake, by putting me on a medication, that should have been Obviously incompatible with me, and it Was. It induced psychotic episodes Nightly. This was the fault of the doctor not taking enough time and consideration into his decision making, but it also taught me a very important lesson, that no matter What doctor says what, no matter Who the doctor is, I should Always be aware of what I put in my body, because it Matters. Thank you for your time.
Science is not going to convince my mother weed is good. For any reason.
“My son has asked me to educate myself about marijuana use and legalizing it. I have agreed to do so. First I want to identify myself as an an anti-marijuana individual. But also as an open-minded educated woman. My son had his first psychotic episode Oct. 11, 2013. He was 18 yrs. old. Pryor to that had graduated early. Had completed his CNA certification, attending community college and working part time. He had a roller coaster ride of a last year. He has been diagnosed Bi-Polar II and substance abuser. The only drug found in his system at the time of his episode was marijuana (THC) and to clear it up. My son “is not” crazy. He has a physical illness,(like diabetes) or any other chronic illness. It just happens to effect his brain. Also, I have not read that marijuana causes schizophrenia or any other mental illness for that manner. however I have read many studies and had many accounts that marijuana effects the brain of those with mental illnesses very differently then those that do not have a mental illness. In my sons case it was a very negative effect.”
So glad you’re here. However, please take note that marijuana stays in people’s systems for far longer than other drugs. It is a lot easier to detect than some of the more toxic substances out there that can induce psychotic symptoms. Also, just because your son uses marijuana, how do you know this is making him worse off? Sometimes diseases just progress… regardless of how much we don’t want them to.
I have people tell me marijuana use causes autism, depression, retardation, schizophrenia, addiction, ADHD, ADD, “nervous children” and it contributes to lowered IQ. All of which is a crock. But then say I support harming children because I want marijuana legal. It is just ridiculous. Some people look at marijuana as some kind of “catch all boogie man”, something went wrong and it is “marijuana’s fault”.
I’m sure there are people out there is blaming marijuana use for their kid being gay too. Do you really want to be a member of this crowd?
Oh yeah, they used to believe marijuana helps spread communism. How is that for braindead excuses? Actually, communism spreads when jackbooted thugs show up and steal your house using marijuana as an excuse for their actions.
I was treated by a counselor for a year in 1984. One day he told me in a kind sort of way: I wish I could get more of the truly mentally ill in here for treatment, yet I often just get the victims of the mentally ill.
When will we be allowed to freely use this wonderful plant? At least times they are a changin! LEGALIZE IT
medicalmarijuanamom.com
Crazy people don’t need help, they need a cage. All they do is abuse. Actually, counselors don’t want to work with the truly mentally ill. There is no progress ever made.
Far better their victims get treatment.
For example, does a child beater need counseling? Or do they need to be put in a cage? They need to be put in the cage and their victim(s) are the ones in need of care and counseling.
@Dave Evans
Dude, seriously, cut the ignorant bullshit. When you spew junk like that, it Really doesn’t help the look of our cause.
For one thing, you can’t lump all crazy people together, or, especially together with child beaters. That’s just plain ignorance.
Though, I agree, with the truly mentally ill, counseling does little to nothing, mainly because in most cases, the cause of the mental illness is a chemical imbalance, and you can Not counsel that away, it has to be treated.
You don’t need a cage, to administer treatment. Trust me, I’m literally, legally, classified as “Clinically Insane” what with my schizophrenic tendencies, and what not. It’s pretty much my job to know this kind of shit, and being one with such an adept ability to conjugate, and interact lucidly, it’s my responsibility to speak for the things We need too.
You don’t actually Know that no progress can be made with the truly mentally ill, you just have very ignorant assumptions, and even in the context of counselors, you’re still only mostly right, and partly wrong. It does little, not Nothing, and we Don’t need to be put in any sort of “cage” unless we, like you, break the law.
Also, you make it appear, that you assume all crazy people have victims of some kind. Seriously man, just, stop saying words. They’re making you sound silly.
So, do you abuse people for fun? If not, how on earth do you feel what I say applies to you and other in the same situation?
Mental Illness is not crazy, it is just mental illness. It can and is treated. Crazy, not so much. They hide it way too well and they do abuse people when ever they get the chance. Who do you think runs terrorist groups? Mentally ill folks that have trouble going to the store??? Their idiology has literally turned their minds into a weapon of hate, they are bat shit crazy and they choose that path. An illness did not cause these behaviors. And their is no rehabilitation, they to want die for their cause. Which is crazy.
@Dave Evans
Oh, I see the problem, it’s ignorance, And a poor use of broad generalizations. Then by all means, carry on.
There is a big problem in this country with not bothering to catch or work on mental illness and at the same time there is a lack of care taken when dealing with kooks, we elect them to office! The legal path we force people to take in executing the war on drugs is crazy–it is counter productive to the stated goals. Even Mentally Ill people can see that, but crazies/sociopaths? Not so much, they keep trying to justify policy failures at everyone’s expense. They should be kicked in the nuts.
Dale,
You are one of the few logical people on this site.
My son is 37, mentally retarded, manic depressive, bipolar, and last, but not
least schizophrenic. One of my massage therapists turned me on to CBD.
Her son had many of the disabilities that my son has with the added bonus of multiple seizures per day. A friend turned her on to CBD, and her comment to me was “I have my son back”. Needless to say, this got my interest. After at least 80 hours of research, I have purchased $3,000 of RHSO oil. We are starting our son on it tomorrow. We have high hopes, but have had those before. However, this seems different.
The main reason for my posting is this. After 80 hours of research, I have learned a few irrefutable facts.
THC can definitely trigger psychosis, or make existing psychosis worse.
DON’T take pot thinking it will help you with you’re psychosis. It will not help, but can definitely hurt. However, CBD will definitely not hurt, but possibly will help significantly.
It is ridiculously expensive, and if it works for my son, I will fix that. (I know how that sounds, but I can). But in the meantime, PLEASE, if you have psychotic tendencies, don’t think that MJ will help. All evidence points to the opposite.
God bless you all. No one can truly understand what you are going through, but I have a good idea after 37 years with my son.
Dale, Redcloud, all,
My previous post was made before I went back and read all of you’re previous posts. Again, I don’t take issue with any of you’re comments. My only purpose was presenting what I have learned through my on research. I’m sure that you have all spent many more hours than I have trying to find some solution.
My hope is that somehow by sharing information we will stumble upon something that truly helps. God bless.
@Mtrollo
I get where you’re coming from, however part of what I’m trying to perpetuate is that “research”, no matter who it’s done by, doesn’t necessarily mean set in stone Fact. Some people fail to realize this, and regard whatever they read, by whoever, accredited or otherwise, as fact, and anyone who opposes what they’ve read simply doesn’t know what they’re talking about, or “just wants to smoke weed”. I’m well aware, that the only thing My experience can tell anyone, is how this plant affects Me, personally, and that, being that it affects me in this way, the only thing I can conclude from my findings is that we Need to know More. More effort needs to be put behind finding out Exactly what affects me, how, and why I insight a positive reactions, while so many others get negative reactions. This is especially hard in my area, since not even the medicinal use of MMJ is legalized, and thus, not even really taken seriously, thus slowing down Any progress I can make, especially since I’m practically on my own. I’m not necessarily say you’re wrong, or I’m right, but I think you’re taking a positive step in Trying to Find Out, and I think you should document Every day you Can, everything that could even Remotely be considered useful information, positive Or negative, especially in the case of mental illnesses, where no two cases are exactly the same. I’d like to help the process of legalization for the medicinal use of marijuana in my state, specifically so I can turn in my personal findings, and have with with accredited individuals, who can find out the cause and affect of why I have a positive reaction, hopefully to help those who get a negative reaction. I’ve spent a long time on federal income, and I’d like to become a contributing member of the collective. I don’t enjoy being a leech, however, I’m in a position where, if I seek employment from most places, I’d have to pass a drug screen, which I can’t do, because of my marijuana usage, yet I refuse to continue using pharmaceutical drugs I know for a Fact have harmful long term affects. I refuse to suffer potentially permanent damage for temporary psychological relief, I just won’t do it. If there is a time, when MMJ is legalized in my state, I could Grow, and process my own medication, get a regular job, work on furthering our collective knowledge base on MMJ and how it affects mental illness, and Never have to be a leech on society again. That’s my main goal here. A True sense of Independence, and higher learning, no pun intended. However, for this to happen, we, as a collective Need to know More, and it needs to be made evident, without a shadow of a doubt, particularly in states that don’t already have legalization for the medicinal use of marijuana, such as states like Colorado, California, and Washington. I’d really rather not suffer pharmaceuticals, or get into trouble with the law, simply because my governor, and house of “representatives” are immature, ignorant, and don’t take this issue seriously, when it Is a Very serious issue. I also don’t want to have to be forced to take radical measures, like gathering a collective, for some new political group, imploring the federal government to impeach those currently in office for not doing their jobs, which they’re Not. Our house of representative do Not represent the collective, and their childish attitude reflects poorly on us. I’d much rather appeal to them, as adults, so they can begin to Act like adults, take into account the facts we have, and the misconceptions of the past, and allow people like me the help we deserve. I just don’t know how to exactly go about doing that, though I’m trying to find contact information for those in such fields as psycho-pharmacology, who understand the helpful role medical marijuana could play, while also understanding the risks, such as it not being for Everyone, or every case of mental illness, but who are willing to make an effort to know more. Hopefully that will help.
Redcloud,
Thanks for youre well thought out reply.
Our order of CBD arrived two days late. We are starting our son on it today. It’s hard to have optimism after 37 years of dissapointment, but we can’t help but be optimistic about this. I will keep you posted on any results we observe.
Good Luck to you, and God Bless!
Aloha, Mtrollo
@Mtrollo
Good luck, and I hope for a positive reaction.
I’m definitely glad to hear that there may be future alternatives to the antipsychotic medication my almost 18-year-old daughter must endure in order to stay based in reality and functional. I think if there was a strain that was VERY low on THC it would be a good option, but the idea of giving someone who already has a loose grip on reality w/THC is scary to me as a mom. Right now it doesn’t feel like there are many options.
@kl
If we could get the remainder of the states legalized for at Least medicinal use, more research could be done, so there could be plenty of options. However this matter isn’t even taken seriously by the government officials of some states, they don’t understand the gravity of the situation, they don’t understand that literally, peoples lives could depend on this, even, specifically those with mental illnesses. They don’t understand how important it is, to us, that we have a safe medication, that doesn’t risk Permanent physical damage, because of the long term usage of pharmaceutical drugs.
I understand these things, and more, I understand that certain psychoactive substances, can have adverse effects, including marijuana, but not excluding anti-psychotics. I’ve been through quite a few myself, for that very reason, which is precisely Why I’m trying to find out as much as I can, on how to get the ball rolling in my state, so we can get accredited people from the scientific, and medical fields to help us better understand, and further utilize this plant more effectively, and efficiently.
I sincerely hope everything goes well with your daughters progression, I’m well aware of the effort it takes to even maintain a functional level of lucidity, as it’s taken me years to even fully utilize, and I can say, for a fact, this plant helped me, however I can make no such prediction for your situation, as I only have subjective data on my own specific case. The best advice I can offer, is to try it out, and record Every piece of useful information on how she reacts, positively or negatively. Not only will this help your understanding of whatever reaction is taking place, it should also help regulate dosages.
I can understand the apprehension though, I’ve met, and spoken to a few people who’ve had adverse reactions to this plant, but none could really give much information about the experience, as in the strain used, the exact dosage, what other medications they may have been on at the time. All of these things are relevant, and could account for the adverse reaction, as well at simply the nature of whatever chemical imbalance they have, or maybe a problem with the receptors that transmit and read these chemicals in our brains, there are quite a lot of possibilities to consider, but we can’t explore these things without being able to legally research the necessary materials. I believe more people becoming aware of the probability of a positive outcome, or reaction, and researching themselves, recording all relevant, and useful data, will help people look beyond the stigma that recreational use has created, making people not take this issue seriously. If I wanted to be intoxicated, alcohol’s cheaper, but if I want to be medicated, I use marijuana, and if there’s any intoxication, I classify that as a side-effect of the medication, that’s not life threatening. It’s not something I necessarily enjoy, however it’s not something I consider dangerous, or damaging in anyway, only a minor annoyance, and I’ve dealt with worse side effects from more legal anti-psychotics.
Best of luck.
Red Cloud,
My son has been on CBD for almost 2 weeks now. We have noticed significant improvement! Less voices, less visions. Sleeping through the night first time in years. We will gradually increase dosage over the next two weeks. So far, so good. Will continue to keep you posted.
Mtrollo
@Mtrollo
That’s very good to hear, I’m glad your son is experiencing such positive results! Don’t forget to document everything. Information, and testimonial like yours will surely help our cause, in the long run. Please, continue to keep me posted, and Best of luck!
@Mtrollo i know someone who wants to try to treat their schizophrenia with CBD this person has it for about 6 years already and wants to eliminate or make the symptons less and im really instrested in knowing how you can buy CBD and how you can control the dosage. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Help me i beg of you. please
@Chingchong
Don’t forget that there are still a Lot of states that don’t even have the rights to the medicinal use of marijuana products, so I’m not sure how much that would help.
I’m interested in trying the CBD treatment as well, since I’ve done personal trials of the plant material for My specific case of schizophrenia, and what not, and found Very positive results, however, being in a state where the substance is illegal, I’m risking quite a lot, and also, because of the lack of medicinal rights, I can’t really talk to any doctors in my state about Why I’m getting positive results, from mostly predominantly sativa hybrid strains, though I have yet to try a pure sativa strain. More work needs to be done, so we can have more information to go on, but with these ridiculous, ignorant laws, in a Lot of cases, there’s very little that can be done. That’s why it’ so important to get at Least the medicinal usage of this plant legalized across the board, in All states, so we can have people All over the country coming together and working on this, instead of small groups in certain states just doing what they can. We Can do better, Right Now, if not for these stifling laws, and That’s the real issue here. We Need to know more, and we Need the freedom to be able to study this plant, and it’s affects More, and though we’re Kinda on the way, I find it’s too slow, too many people, who are in the position to make decisions for collectives in certain states keep dragging their feet on the issue, or just don’t take it seriously, because it’s an intoxicant plant, completely disregarding the Many opiates used today, just to mention One out of Many intoxicating pharmaceutical product that’s used Rampantly.
However, thank you for the link, and I hope that “Help” is in a state where he/she can get that treatment, and Hopefully get positive results. “Help”, if you Are able to get this product, please keep us updated on the progress, and I wish nothing but the best of luck for you.
Help, Red Cloud,
While I don’t suffer from psychosis, having lived with my 38 year old son,
I have a sense and understanding of the pain and desperation that comes with the disease.
We are now entering the third week of CBD treatment with our son. The results so far have been really good. However, as you probably know, we are afraid to be too optomistic. Will he reach a plateau? Will he develope a tolerance? We have been here before. However, this feels different. Time will tell.
The company we are buying the CBD oil from is online. The website is
Hempmedspx.com.
It is really expensive, but it is the purist form of CBD you can buy. But we pay $3000 for 60 grams. It is very thick, and we have not found anyway so far to make it soluble. The best, and most effective way is to put he dose under the toung, and Letitia dissolve for 45-60 seconds. Our son ain’t gonna do that. So I fill up empty dissolvable capsules, which probably cut it’s effectiveness by 25-30 per cent. It’s made from hemp, so it is totally legal in all states. I don’t know why it’s so expensive, but it seems to work.
I will keep you all posted on my sons progress, and anything else I learn.
God bless
@Mtrollo
I understand Exactly where you’re coming from, I too have that fear, especially since, having to deal with street vendors, and only being able to afford small amounts of medical grade product, not enough to cook down, or process, for better dosage management, I constantly have to watch my intake, because if I start using even a Bit more, I become used to that amount, and have to use the same amount or more, next dose, and it can snowball from there, very easily.
Specifically, a case like yours, is why I keep repeating, and cannot stress enough, that we Need to know More. Every bit of information you provide helps, but we also need doctors, chemists, pharmacologists, neurologists, and what not to run tests, find out the why’s and hows, so we can more efficiently use this medicine.
sheesh, I’d never be able to afford 3000 dollars for medicine. I suppose it costs so much, because it actually Works?
You can probably try putting the CBD liquid in foods? Something sweet would probably help, I’m not sure if it has a bad taste or not, but I assume what ever taste it has, is Strong. I’d say experiment a bit, but with the cost, I’d say you’re better off doing what you’re doing now, just in case one of the experiments doesn’t work well, and you lose a dosage.
Yes, thank you, please continue to keep us updated, and I wish you and your son the best of luck.
@Mtrollo, I notice the cbd product you use is 2350mg CBD per tube. Question: What dosage size per day are you giving your son, and how long did it take to begin having beneficial effects? Thank you very much in advance!
Planetbill,
We’ve been giving him about 450mg per day.
We just upped it to 500mg. So far, seeing continuing improvement.
Sleeping through the night(huge!), no raging violence and self hurting (huge!),
And much more focus and less manic behavior.
When I called the company to see if there was someway to get a better price,
The person in sales & marketing asked me what I was using it for. After telling her she said they have a special discount for people like my son. It is still very expensive, but the discount was substantial.
Good luck to you. I hope this information is of some help.
Mtrollo
Planetbill,
It took about three days of 250mgs per day before we saw noticeable changes. Mtrollo
@Mtrollo
Those are some quite impressive results.
Hopefully, with the continued increase of safe
access of more states, till they all have some
form of proper medical marijuana treatment plan,
if not flat out legalization, these types of uses
will most likely be made more readily available,
thus driving down the price. Also, would be nice
to have the option to acquire necessary information,
and/or peripherals for producing similar medications
in ones own home, to further reduce costs,
as well as for convenience sake among other things.
Hopefully, time will tell. Thank you for sharing,
and I look forward to your next update, if you feel a future one to be necessary.
Dear Mtrollo, Thank you very much for your reply. My daughter has recently been having issues with auditory and visual hallucinations, along with some paranoia. She also has other medical problems as she was born with Glycogen Storage Disease Type 1a, and recently has also been becoming insulin resistant. We are trying to keep on top of all of her medical issues. Your input about dosage is very important and we really appreciate it. We have ordered some of the product from the site mentioned but in smaller quantity (it is really expensive). We look forward to trying it out, and hopefully it will help our daughter. We hate the idea of putting her on a strong pharmaceutical with possibly bad side effects. We are also looking into mineral and vitamin issues and supplementation. My wife found a website that sells a unique vitamin/mineral blend for schizophrenia. Your son may benefit as well. The website is: sbxsupplements.com. I recommend you check it out as it may be beneficial alone, or perhaps even better in combination with the cbd solution you have chosen. I wish you, your son and family well. Cheers! Planetbill
this is very interesting you may want to check this out http://psychiatry.yale.edu/research/trials/NCT00588731-2.trial
My 21 year old son was diagnosed with schizophrenia about 18 months ago. He does pretty well, for the most part, on antipsychotics, but I am concerned about long term effects from the drugs. He smokes regular weed almost daily with his friends, and we can not control this. I was happy to discover today the new research about the high CBD cannabis and it’s effects on this disease. We live in CA….so we went right down today and got him his medical marijuana card. The doctor was familiar with the German double blind study showing promise for the tx of schizophrenia. My question is….does anyone have any experience with what the dose would be if it is smoked? Since he is smoking anyway…might as well provide him with a therapeutic dose of his meds at the same time. Thanks for any info.
@ Jayne
I grew up with childhood schizophrenia, and have been running my own personal trials with medicinal cannabis, without the use of any pharmaceutical treatments, such as anti-psychotics, with surprisingly positive results. However, due to being located in a state without laws protecting cannabis users, all I can say is start off small, and work your way up. Watch closely how it affects him, and adjust the dosage accordingly. I would strongly advise looking into CBD extracts, such as those mentioned by Mtrollo, as I got a chance to meet the people she was getting her extracts from, when I went to the ASA Unity Conference in Washington D.C. last weekend, and was able to get their input on CBD usage in accordance with mental illness. So if you get a chance, that’s where I would start, and think of all other cannabis usage as a trial, to be adjusted as needed. I hope this helps, and thank you for being open minded on this issue. People with mental illnesses Need support from family and loved ones, and when they aren’t open minded, or educated enough to understand how effective this medication can be, and only look at it as a drug, it becomes detrimental to their development. You have my respect, and I wish nothing but the best for you and your son, and the progress I Know you will make.
Jayne,
I am not sure that you can smoke what I give my son.
Or what the effects would be. However I am positive that
smoking pot is VERY harmful to people with any form of
psychosis. The THC in pot can make things a lot worse.
@ Mtrollo
That’s not 100% true, as stated before I grew up with childhood schizophrenia, which only got progressively worse over time, and the Only way I can get medicated via this plant, in my state is via smoking, and it’s had wonderfully positive results, I do however know My response is not the universal response.
It is true that Some cases of schizophrenia exhibit a negative response to certain strains of cannabis, and this can be due to Many variables, including, but not limited to the existence, amount, and/or ratio of CBD vs THC, also, whether the nature of the specific case of schizophrenia is due to a chemical imbalance, either over or under production, or a receptor issue, either over responsive, under-responsive, or un-responsive. The Real issue is we have no significant studies done, to give us accurate answers, so this kind of thing can be regulated properly, giving people with this illness the opportunity, and variety they may need to properly medicate. Some people hate smoking, some edibles make some people nauseous, or both, and there are options for them too, with extracts and tinctures, and even patches. If he’s already doing it now, with little to no negative side effects, I don’t see a problem with looking into medicinal grade products.
Mtrollo….There are cannabis strains that are grown specifially or its high CBD content and low THC content. The THC is what increases the psychosis. We were going to purchase the high CBD cannabis. Not all cannabis is the same
I suffer from schizophrenia and I’m wondering if this cbd will work on me. I’m sick of taking haldol
Dan, what state do you live in? I would consult your doctor before doing anything.
We started my son on the extract about a week ago. It is going very well so far. We dropped the dosage of his meds by half and he seems to be fine. I was happy to discover that the dispensary sells the extract for $20 for a 2oz bottle. It is labeled for 12 doses, that is 1 tsp or dropper for each dose, and each dose contains 1100mg! We started him on 1/2 dose, as that is close to what the trials are doing. It easily dissolves under your tongue. Yay California for its medical marijuana laws!
I too currently suffer from paranoid schizophrenia. I love to smoke weed for the affects it’s does on calming me down. But I live in a state where it is illegal so I’m only limited to certain strains of bud, mostly high THC level buds, which is a problem because it does make my psychosis worse every time I use. I might be making a move to a legal state so my question is will the higher level buds with CBD and CBN reduce my psychosis state when I’m medicated? Or will it just be the same? Please I need answers. I really don’t want to result in taking anti-psychotics
@ Dan & Zach
This is what Julie Holland told me:
“Cbd helps positive symptoms. High cbd strains are the way to go. Or cbd capsules or oil. See my chapter in the pot book. Research by zuardi is cited.”
Which I agree with, based on my understanding of how the chemicals react psycho-pharmacologically, but I suggest doing your own research, asking whoever you can, who’s a verifiable, accredited source of information,
in this, and related fields. Best of luck.
I was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia in 2011 and hospitalized 3 times for psychosis.. Now I’ve been stable in an anti psychotic medication for about 3 years but I still suffer from intense anxiety and derealization. I have started using the cbd gum available online for anxiety and derealization and it works for me surprisingly well. When I chew a piece for 30 minutes for anxiety it goes away within 5-10 minutes, and the derealization gets reduced or completely goes away within 15-20 minutes as well. I have yet to be able to afford the syringes of pure cbd oil, but I am very excited about the potential affects that this pure oil will have on my symptoms. I can only speak for myself about the ability of this medicine to treat these symptoms, but I recommend everybody begin taking cbd oil and build it up in your endocannabanoid system for greater overall health and well being.
@Jayne glad to hear this is working for your son! And glad you have access to suitable forms for treatment. I live in a non-legal MMJ state. Are there any sources online to purchase something similar to what you’re getting locally? I’m trying to help OCD/anxiety symptoms. Thanks in advance – please keep us posted on the progress of your son!
I was hoping you guys might be interested in sharing a story I did recently with my own blog and podcast here in Mississippi of all places. I met with the senator who recently wrote the bill (that passed!) for the legal use of CBD oils in our state, along with the mother of the child who it is named after. I will post a link here. My goal is to share it with as many as possible to show that the movement for medical MJ is reaching it’s peak. If Mississippi passes it, you can be sure everyone else can’t be much further behind.
CNP #33
http://www.coastalnoise.com/podcast.html
@Jayne, where did you purchase your extract? Mtrollo, how is your son’s therapy coming. My daughter (in her 20s) is suffering from psychosis. She does not tolerate high doses of anitpsychotics. Mtrollo, how high of a cbd dose did you end up giving your son?
Thank God for your help!
Jayne, which dispensary did you get your cvd?
Eva,
We took our son off CBD for about a month, his behavior during that month
Returned to raging, not sleeping, and talking with the bad friends in his head.
We just returned to giving him 500 ml per day.
While he still has a lot of issues, he is significantly better with te CBD.
We purchase our CBD at a dispensary in Shingle Springs Ca. It was recommended by the doctor that gave him is presciption. Seems to work pretty well when he takes it, but we have a problem with him taking it consistently. And he continues to smoke regular weed with his friends which is a huge problem because it makes symptoms worse later I think. Good luck with your daughter.
Jayne, is your cbd derived from medical marijuana or from hemp? How high is the thc content in the extract?
GW pharmaceuticals is currently in phase 2 clinical trials of CBD in treatment of people with schizophrenia. Maybe those of us with this illness won’t have our lives cut short due to awful side effects of anti psychotics.
http://www.gwpharm.com/product-pipeline.aspx
@InsaneEntrepreneur
CBD isn’t enough to act as an anti-psychotic, you need a psychoactive, like THC, however, you Do need a higher cbd to thc ratio, that much is true. CBD only won’t get the most efficient results, not for schizophrenia. Look man, here’s my hypothesis, based on my own experience, and understanding of psychopharmacology. All you really need to do is have some understanding of botany, and cross breeding, then start out with a BASE LINE of high cbd/low thc strains, but this is by no means the final product, what you do from here, is go one 2-3 month trial periods, and tweek the ratio of the Other active cannabinoids, because those have potentially positive effects, like appetite reduction, if your worried about munchies or whatever, that’s only the minorest of examples. I’m trying to find ways to get out to states so I can do more in-depth research on this, so I can find a satisfactory base line for each individual type of “debilitating” chemically based psychiatric condition, because you CAN NOT have the Exact same ratio for every patient, and expect it to work the same, and the reason for that is, Everyone has differences in the ratios of their own brain chemicals, and this becomes More important to take into account, when a psychiatric condition is involved. However, so long as the Base line is high cbd/low thc, there should be no extreme or harmfull negative effects, only a lack of efficiency.
For those who have tried Cannabidiol, which symptoms does it help with most? My main issues are Paranoia, thought broadcasting, anxiety, and insomnia. I can deal with the paranoia and broadcasting, at least most of the time but the anxiety and insomnia make all of my other symptoms worse. Does it help with negative symptoms? How does it feel vaporizing CBD? I have only tried marijuana a handful of times and never liked it. Is there really no “high” effect?
My son has tried it all we live in a legal state..so we know all about green effects. He has had every RX for psychosis. Look up Dr. Hoffer and Dr. Pfeiffer No RX worked for my son made voices and insomnia and rage worse.What does work for him is ginko B6, zinc, niacin, C, and of course CBD. Read Rethinking madness and drop Doc who have no hope you probably have plenty of no hope don’t need a doctor to feed fears of hopelessness. You can get better. Parents don’t give up…this happened 2000 years ago mental health and the spirit are tide together the bible has tons of help. What gut health too read GAPS. God bless.
I posted on May 6 on how I would like to try CBD. I’ve been taking Haldol for 15 years. I’m zombified on it and it makesme sick, depressed and sometime diskenisia, but it is the only thing that kills the noise in my head. Last month my brother took me to colorodo and was able to try cbd harlequin. Was amazing. It brought tears to my eyes and it killed the noise in my head. I vaped it and was great. I was I colorodo for 6 days and it was the best 6 days in 20 years. I live in a non medical state Florida. But in November florida is voting for medical and would be good. If florida does not legalize I will be moving to a medical marijuan state.
To insane enter…… All my life, I hated Marijuana because it makes my symptoms 10 times worse. however CBD, is what it’s all about. CBD allows me to settle down in a calm non paranoia, no anxiety, no voices, no auditory hallucinations. It’s as if a switch turns on in my brain and allows me to think freely without fighting with these voices that fill my head. I urge all schitzo affectives, schitzo patients to try CBD no thc material. Today I sit at home some what depressed. I have taken Haloperidol today because I have no CBD and the side affects seem to never get any better nor worse. My side affetcs include, sleepiness, de motivated, and anxiety. Sometimes these side affects out weigh the negatives I’m feeling that day but still Haldol is killing me, slowly.
I’m really tierd of medicating my illness with poison medicines when CBD is the key to relieving all my symptoms. Any questions ?
Dan, My son was on Haldol for a while. It is a terrible drug,
and as you are painfully aware, comes with terrible side-effects.
Right now, his daily meds consist of Triliptal, Serequil, Lithium and Risperdal. While we have been including 500mg of CBD daily,
we have been afraid to reduce any of them except the Lithium.
However we have noticed a remarkable improvement with the CBD.
The place we get it from is in San Diego. They just came out with a
purer product they call Gold CBD. It is way easier to administer to our son (who in addition to being Scizophrenic, Bipolar, and manic depressive, is moderately retarded with an IQ of 50). It has much more viscosity than their blue label product. However it is much
more expensive. About $2800 per month. But we have noticed significantly more positive results. This could be because it is able to get into his system more efficiently due to its being more liquid.
in any event we have noticed significant improvement with the Gold stuff. We live in Hawaii which although more tolerant than most states, his insurance will not cover it, nor will his doctor prescribe it. We are fortunate that we are in a situation that we can afford it. If you can find a state that will cover it under insurance, and a doctor that will prescribe it, it could be what will change your life for the better.
The product is so pure, that it is totally legal in all 50 states.
The major hurdle is the cost. The name of the company is Hemp Meds PX Phone: 866-273-8502. Good luck
I have been diagnosed as bipolar with psychosis, I quit meds eight months ago and started cbd oil. I started on 100 mg a day, now I am on about 36 mg a day. Cost in the uk about 200 pounds, even less. I would like to up my dose but can’t afford it. I am however still suffering from the side effects of the antipsychotic so I don’t feel great but I am better than before. So cbd works in psychosis even im small doses don’t get discouraged about price. In Europe you can get good cbd from endoca. Com or naturalwonoil. There are many discounts and offers available. Don’t end up like me permanently damaged by antipsychotics.
@Sassy
I’m glad you’re showing positive results, however I still believe my method to be a more efficient one. As a person who also suffers from psychiatric conditions, and someone who’s been independently researching this particular subject matter, though in a broader spectrum, botanically, and thus chemically speaking, I just think my method works better. In my experience, CBD has been more of a treatment for symptoms, as apposed to a treatment for individual patients.
Don’t worry though, once I’m able to show conclusive results for my research in Droves, my method will popularize, and I’ll be trying to work with other humanitarians in getting this sort of thing to the public, as well as the knowledge to go through the necessary steps yourself, as well as the initial treatment itself, and it won’t cost a thing. I’m of the mind that putting a monetary value on health, in Any spectrum is an inhumane practice, so I’m going to do whatever is within my power to Break that system. It’s not an impossibility, it’ll just take a fair amount of time, and commitment, from both practitioners as well as patients. Sooner or later, the power of healing via this plant, in all its variation, will be in the hands of everyone, not just doctors, and not just patients. You never know when it might come in handy. Never forget Knowledge Is Power.
Also, for your own benefit, please keep a well documented journal, giving much more detail then your previous post. Exact objective details would be best. Trust me, it helps in the long run.
Best of luck in your continued treatment.
-Red Cloud-
I’m schizoaffective mamic depressive. I’m currently taking the highest does of geodon. But I’ve been reading all the miracles Cbd can offer. I was jus wondering if it’s safe to take with geodon too. Help
Hanna,
We have been giving our son CBD for almost half a year.
He is on a variety of anti-psychotic meds.
We have not seen any negative interactions whatsoever.
Best of luck.
Mtrollo
Hi! Cannabis for me is very dangerous, being the trigger of my illness. Even the slightest whiff will set me off again, having binged on it through my teens. I would say it is to be avoided by anyone who has been diagnosed with schizophrenia (street cannabis), avoiding it is the reason I have achieved such a massive increase in health over the last few years. Of course if this CBD helps then by all means give it a go, but for me I never could…. Come read my story at scizm!
@ Jack Lawlor
As a fellow schizophrenic, I understand your apprehension with thc, however, my own experience, being the opposite of yours, leads me to believe that these sorts of reactions are Highly subjective, based on a broad spectrum of variants, including, but not limited to:
main family strain
latent cannabinoid ratio
individual condition
individual brain chemistry
individual synaptic response
delivery method (as this determines the spectrum of cannabinoid variants and bio availability rate/ratio for pharmacokinetic processing)
As well as the individual psychopharmacological reactions to varying cannabinoid ratios based on these variables.
I’m not the only one to exhibit positive results in using cannabis as a treatment for schizophrenia, so I know there’s at least some form of viability in this hypothesis, or theory, as it were, however I’m not so arrogant as to assume that I am the rule, and not the exception.
Stories like yours are far more common then ones like mine, but I’m working on changing that.
It’s important to be aware of what you’re putting into your body. Get educated on cannabinoids, and what they do, as well as the variations in what they do in conjunction with each other, in varying ratios, then just consider your own brain chemistry, and recognize that most common strains especially those sold on the street, aren’t breed for psychiatric application, not in the chemical sense. Therapeutic, perhaps, but when one has a chemical imbalance that could drastically affect, in a negative way, behavioral patterns, then you must be Very wary of what chemicals you allow into your body. Be more aware of this, pay it more mind, and educate yourself on all the things you consume, and there should be no further complications.
-Red Cloud-
It is good to hear these reports. Thanks for sharing
@Jane
Jane, can you tell me the name of the dispensory? That price sounds almost too good to be true. I just bought a 500mg bottle for $160. I would love to know more about your purchase, maybe just the name of the shop?
The canabis clinic is in Shingle Springs Ca. Its called All Natural Inc. This is near Sacramento, Ca.
Hi everyone. My son is still doing well with CBD.
We have been buying it from a company in San Diego, CA for about a year now. It is really expensive! Around $3K per month. Half this cost is due to my son not being able to take it the prescribed way, which is to administer the dose under the toung. I Have to put in capsules so he takes it like the rest of his meds.
This causes him to absorb it much more slowly, and about half of it goes through his body before being absorbed. However, it works.
The company is having a sale that only lasts for a few more days.
50% off. I couldn’t believe it. I ordered online, and used the promo code they sent me in an email. In the year I have been buying from them, I they have never offered this much of a discount.
The Promo code is HOLIDAY50.
It is the purest CBD there is.
I hope some of you can take advantage of this, and I hope all of you the
best in 2015.
Sorry,I forgot to mention the name of the company!
It’s called Hemp Meds.
They are a public company, and we have had a good experience in dealing with them, other than the cost.
Hi I want to try Cbd oil I have pychosis twice and I M on antipsychotic meds.i want to know whether you guys had success using cbd oil from hemp meds and how long have u taken or given to patient thanks
my thirty year old daughter has had a very rough time the last two years. she is diagnosed as schizoaffective. she is currently in the hospital. she has been very sick and destructive. she wants to come home, however, i am afraid. she loves to smoke weed. she is not responding well to the meds anymore. she hates taking meds so she stops abruptly and breaks. it has been horrific. is there a doctor who treats patients with CBD or a hospital that uses it with patients before they are released? we are in california. thank you.
I read story on a website about this girl who starts using 100mg cbd daily after 8 years of being hospitalized in n out after trying to leave antipsychotic but with the use of cbd she was able to come off of antipsychotic for atleast a year that I know off she was on 50mg of cbd from naturalwonoil.com or endoca.com was her source of cbd
Hira, I believe there’s enough evidence at this point that shows Cannabidiol treats psychosis effectively. Unlike atypical anti-psychotics CBD is natural which means less unwanted side effects. The greatest benefit of being natural is once you grow a tolerance to CBD doctors will feel more comfortable increasing dosage.
Anyhow there is currently a bill which would allow CBD from cannabis to be removed as a controlled substances. please visit this site and shoot an email to your representatives.
http://www.coalitionforaccessnow.org/take_action
True but I hope not that we build a tolerance to cbd as its expensive to keep increasing it.
Looks like it really does help treat Schizophrenia as there are positive results from GW Pharmaceuticals Phase 2 clinical trials released today. Awesome!
Over a series of exploratory endpoints, CBD was consistently superior to placebo, with the most notable differences being in the PANSS positive sub-scale (p=0.018), the Clinical Global Impression of Severity (p=0.04) and Clinical Global Impression of Improvement (p=0.02). The proportion of responders (improvement in PANSS Total score greater than 20%) on CBD was higher than that of participants on placebo, with an Odds Ratio of 2.65. In the area of cognition, CBD was superior to placebo (p=0.07) with marked differences being seen in sub-domains of particular relevance to improving the outlook for people suffering with schizophrenia. With respect to negative symptoms, the Scale for Assessment of Negative Symptoms showed a trend in favour of CBD which reached statistical significance for patients taking CBD together with one of the leading first line anti-psychotic medications. The majority of other endpoints in the study were in favor of CBD and approached statistical significance in many cases.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gw-pharmaceuticals-announces-positive-proof-130000370.html
Now if only Quinn was still governor of Il…
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