So this is your administration on drugs. Any questions?
Obama drug plan ‘firmly opposes’ legalization as California vote looms
via The HillThe Obama administration said Tuesday that it “firmly opposes” the legalization of any illicit drugs as California voters head to the polls to consider legalizing marijuana this fall.
The president and his drug czar re-emphasized their opposition to legalizing drugs in the first release of its National Drug Control Strategy this morning.
“Keeping drugs illegal reduces their availability and lessens willingness to use them,” the document, prepared by Drug Czar Gil Kerlikowske, says. “That is why this Administration firmly opposes the legalization of marijuana or any other illicit drug.”
Is anyone surprised? You shouldn’t be. After all, this is the same Gil Kerlikowske that has said repeatedly that legalization is not in his vocabulary, and publicly stated, “Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit.” And this is the same administration that recently nominated Michele Leonhart to head the DEA — the same Michele Leonhart who overruled the DEA’s own administrative law judge in order to continue to block medical marijuana research, and publicly claimed that the rising death toll civilians attributable to the U.S./Mexican drug war “a signpost of the success” of U.S. prohibitionist policies.
UPDATE: Director Kerlikowske will appear live tomorrow on WAMU, Wednesday, May 11, (likely in the first hour between 10-11am, eastern) on the Diane Rehm Show. Listeners can call (1-800-433-8850), email or Tweet their questions to the Drug Czar.
Yet, given that national polls now indicate that an estimated one out of two Americans nationwide support legalization, and that a solid majority of west coast voters and Californians back regulating the retail production and distribution of pot like alcohol, it seems politically counterproductive for the administration to maintain such a ‘flat Earth’ policy. So what could possibly be their reasoning?
It’s actually spelled out here, in the White House’s 2010 Drug Control Strategy:
We have many proven methods for reducing the demand for drugs. Keeping drugs illegal reduces their availability and lessens willingness to use them. That is why this Administration firmly opposes the legalization of marijuana or any other illicit drug. Legalizing drugs would increase accessibility and encourage promotion and acceptance of use. Diagnostic, laboratory, clinical, and epidemiological studies clearly indicate that marijuana use is associated with dependence, respiratory and mental illness, poor motor performance, and cognitive impairment, among other negative effects, and legalization would only exacerbate these problems.
There it is in black and white — in less than 100 words: The federal government’s entire justification for marijuana prohibition; their entire justification for a policy that has led to the arrest of over 20 million Americans since 1965, that is responsible for allowing cops to terrorize families and kill their pets, that has stripped hundreds of thousands of young people of their ability to pursue higher education, and that is directly responsible for the deaths of over 20,000 civilians on the U.S./Mexico border. And that’s just for starters.
Yet the entire premise for maintaining the government’s policy — that keeping marijuana criminally prohibited “reduces [its] availability and lessens willingness to use [it]” — is demonstrably false. Under present prohibition, more than 1/3 of 8th graders, more than 2/3rds of 10th graders, and some 85 percent of 12th graders say that marijuana is “easy to get.” Even according to the stridently prohibitionist group CASA (National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University), more teens say that they can get their hands on pot than booze, and one-quarter say that they can buy marijuana within the hour. That means, President Obama and Gil Kerlikowske, that 25 percent of teens can obtain marijuana as easily — and as quickly — as a Domino’s pizza!
This is your “proven” method for “reducing availability?” Don’t make us laugh.
By contrast, dozens of studies from around the globe have established, consistently, that marijuana liberalization will result in lower overall drug use. For example, no less than the World Health Organization concluded:
“Globally, drug use is not distributed evenly, and is simply not related to drug policy. … The U.S. … stands out with higher levels of use of alcohol, cocaine, and cannabis, despite punitive illegal drug policies. … The Netherlands, with a less criminally punitive approach to cannabis use than the U.S., has experienced lower levels of use, particularly among younger adults. Clearly, by itself, a punitive policy towards possession and use accounts for limited variation in national rates of illegal drug use.”
In fact, NORML has an entire white paper devoted to addressing this issue here.
Of course, the best option to truly reduce youth availability to cannabis is legalization and regulation. This strategy — the same one that we employ for the use of virtually every other product except cannabis — would impose common sense controls regarding who can legally produce marijuana, who can legally distribute marijuana, who can legally consume marijuana, and where adults can legally use marijuana and under what circumstances is such use legally permitted.
But we already know that this option isn’t in the administration’s vocabulary, now don’t we?
I’ve written time and time again that this administration ought to view marijuana legalization as a political opportunity, not a political liability. They obviously aren’t listening. Nevertheless, it is the voters who have led — and will continue to lead — on this issue, and it is the politicians who will follow. Could we expect it to be any other way?
After all it was the federal government that followed the states lead in 1937 — federally criminalizing pot, but only doing so after virtually every state in the nation had already done so. California, for instance, outlawed marijuana use in 1913 — nearly a quarter of a century before the Feds acted similarly. Likewise, it is going to be the states — and California in particular — that are going to usher in the era of re-legalization.
And it will be the Feds who eventually will have no other choice but to fall in line.
So they justify billions of dollars pent and millions of lives lost on what again? They keep it classified like herorin proving to every person who has the knowledge that the government lies. It was outlawed largely due to racism and i believe its time we elect thisa uncle tom out of office.
Marijuana is much easier to get than alcohol on my college campus, not that either is especially hard to find. The only difference is I can pick up the marijuana myself, while I have to persuade my of-age friends to drive to a liquor store.
This is completely ridiculous.
And it will be the Feds who eventually will have no other choice but to fall in line.
They still think they are the ultimate power in this country, they still think their words are law when spoken… they better wake up, the states and the people are going to put them in thier place…As our employees…not their wage slaves.
Too those of you that might not realize it….their drug war banter in form of their strategy is for those that dont know about or understand the truth of the drug war…all that banter is for those still asleep to the lies our leaders feed America. This banter is not for us. Its up to Cali to educate America. What will the feds do if its legalized in cali? What will Cali LE do? I think Cali LE will bow to the feds and work under their banner. Time to show Who owns this country…..WE THE PEOPLE.
Remove cannabis from the schedule 1 list of narcotics. You’re sending the wrong message to our people. They are assuming that all those other substances are safe too. The big lie is over. The “I am the great and powerfull OZ” trick is no longer working on the informed people of this country. You’re just making us look bad now.
I think Marijuana should be legalized and taxed to help the national economy and keep thousands of young people out of jails for possession. It is safer than alcohol which causes thousands of deaths and ruins families. The only result of of the laws are hurting people who use it for whatever reason. Vote for legalization!!!
It’s no surprise that Obama would continue a failed 70 year policy. It also won’t be a big surprise when he isn’t re-elected to a second term.
Where is the science that he promised?
Vote Eugene Moon in Georgia 9th District to replace Nathan Deal in Washington. He said that it should be a state issue and would not oppose it if the voters want it.
I really wish these administrators and high-end high payed people, with our taxes none the less, would really open their eyes, in their own school days I don’t know how hard it could be to get some pot but I am sure it was really easy, even if it was some crap mexican shwag it was always around, and much easier to get than alcohol.
In my 4 years at high school I PURCHASED beer/alcohol 1 time because it was extremely hard for me to find someone over 21. I PURCHASED pot (under 18) countless times EACH YEAR because the dealer in the big black jacket and jeans saggin to his knees didn’t care if I was 9 years old or 30. The first time I bought pot he gave me a pre-rolled blunt ready to spark up right after class! Now listen Adults, help get these dealers that DO have access to harder drugs like cocaine, out of our childrens school. Even I didn’t like the pressure of buyinig and smoking pot right during school when I got it.
I just want to buy and smoke in peace, all while keeping my job and providing for my family and kids.
In my personal opinion, I think that marijuana law reformers are too focused on getting marijuana legalized when they should be more focused on informing the public on why marijuana is a safe drug. We need to make sure people stop seeing marijuana as an “illicit” drug and then legalization will be an easy task.
the way i see it we shoud all get on the wagon and party till we drop. my heart doctor sais to smoke cannibus not cigaretts . but till its leagel i cant follow my doctors advice.regulate it like booze or coffee. they are drugs too.
Well then Obama, what of the thousands of non violent offenders who are being assaulted/sodomized in jail for simply being charged with it’s possession?? Don’t you dare say it isn’t happening- It happened to me, and several others I know. If you don’t support full legalization that’s fine. But the suffering needs to end. You need to at least, decriminalize it. Your creating enemies of the state with these draconian marijuana laws. It’s a regretable mistake indeed…
Obama and his entourage are done for, he won’t be doing crap after he leaves office if he isn’t kicked out first.
It’s nice how the government tries to undermine the choices of a sovereign state. This only furthers uncovers the truth for the American people that the government is full of corrupt lying asshole idiots who only got to office because they road the shirt tails of someone else. It’s too bad I am a nobody; I could run this country better than any of them.
I hope the Mexican cartels take over swaths of U.S. state territory in the south west and destroy it,…if that’s what it takes for the American government to listen to it’s own fucking people for once then so be it. You gotta crack eggs to make an omelet.
It’s funny to see the government publicly state that false statements such as…….. “We have many proven methods for reducing the demand for drugs. Keeping drugs illegal reduces their availability and lessens willingness to use them. That is why this Administration firmly opposes the legalization of marijuana or any other illicit drug. Legalizing drugs would increase accessibility and encourage promotion and acceptance of use.”….. I mean they must think we’re really stupid to actually come up with crap like that.
So your own government, which is supposed to be by the people and for the people think they can blatantly lie to people and get away with it as long as the senior citizens don’t start getting honorary; a time for that crap is ending is this is their last bastion of hope. Don’t forget, if prohibition is repealed all those people in DEA offices and task force around the U.S. and the rest of the world will lose their jobs so they will stop at nothing to keep their war going. Nice to know America can’t go one firkin decade without starting some kind of war.
So my best to everyone, hopefully this crap is going to end soon come November when everyone will see there is no other choice but legalization of marijuana.
P.S. I can’t believe there are still people who won’t admit the war on drugs has failed. They seriously need to accept and adapt or get the frick off my planet…and oh yeah, that new supreme court justice? Ugly as sin, put down the doughnut and go to the gym lady.
Isn’t the President required by law to not support legalization of a schedule 1 drug?
[Paul Armentano responds: That would be the Drug Czar, not the President.]
These marijuana related lies are just a shadow of the far greater lies the American people are being told. It is inevitable that the people will need to go to war with their government if they truly want their freedom back. Someday there will be a great majority of people who are willing to do battle for their right to persue happiness. I can just see it. It’s foolish to assume otherwise, considering the history of this great nation. The government villians need to tread lightly. Or they will awaken a sleeping giant, and the government will have no hills to run to. Because the PEOPLE own every inch of this great country.
The feds can oppose legalization all they want, but once it happens in California, they will be forced to deal with us. The federal government cannot enforce prohibition without the compliance of the states. All the feds can do is prevent it from being sold in stores, in an orderly and taxable fashion.
Well so much for the will of the people. I wonder how long the government will fight this war agents its own people.
This is not surprising people. Bye, Bye, Obama. I am not wasting my vote on another republican or democrat. There is no difference.
Gah what freaks they are, i cant believe that the American public still support these Witch finder generals. Mind you things are equally ignorant in the UK, with all the medical and scientific information that’s pro cannabis nowadays they STILL insist on calling out the devil on cannabis. Have you noticed though?…. their stance is been shouted even louder now that ever before. Difference been that people are now shouting back.
Im still asking the question in my mind though….
Really what are they afraid of?
The only conclusion i come to ( maybe its a little conspiracy theorist, maybe someone can put me right ), is the fact that wide spread cannabis use will somehow cause people to wake up to the extent they will see how sh*te they have been treated by the powers that be.
You know the whole breakdown of “society” thing etc… i cant think of it been anything else, maybe someone else can enlighten me?
Anyhow before i dive into the whole “agenda” thing, the above article doesn’t really surprise me, frustrate yes, but no surprise.
Man I remember when we were all excited to see Gil be appointed. He turned out to be a huge liar just like everybody else.
This government is failing us. Either they need to a radical change in drug policy, or perhaps we need a new government. Sending people to jail for smoking pot, or growing pot, is a senseless shameful act.
Stupid is as Stupid does.
This is disgusting. They are blatantly lying to the people. Obama is very fond of criticizing wall street and big business for being greedy and corrupt. Meanwhile, him and his administration are being PAYED OFF by pharmaceutical companies, big tobacco, and big alcohol to keep the legalization movement down. Enough of this hypocrisy, we need this liar out of office and we need to elect someone competent. No more lies, no more monopolies, this needs to end.
So…
Who REALLY still thinks Obama is going to legalize it in his second term?
PLEASE vote against incumbents unless they specifically state they support reform/legalization. It might seem hard for you voting for the opposite party you like if your incumbent preferred politician is in office, but if he or she is against even reform, VOTE THEM OUT.
Liberty Candidates believe in full legalization. Ending the drug war is part of their specific platform. Many of the candidates on this list are front runners and need your help. Some not so much and need your help even more.
Here is a list by state of these pro-legalization candidates: http://www.liberty-candidates.org/
So basically this is the last time I ever vote Republican or Democrat. All politicians are sell outs so that means we have to do this by ourselves. The people of America are going to have to change the laws that our elected representatives who only care about what’s going to make their wallets fatter. Obama is a sell out as well scared of his political career being in jeopardy. No one cares about what the benefits will be to America they want to make sure they have a position of power for a long time. So basically our President is addicted to marijuana, he has some respiratory disease, as well as a mental illness, he doesn’t have control over his motor performance and his cognitive abilities have been impaired since he has “inhaled many times,” I mean that was the point right? Hypocrite.
David Bukovaz – Vice President Pittsburg State University NORML Chapter
Shame On You Mr. President. Yours & Your War Mongering (Including Your War On Drugs) Administration’s Foolish Hypocrisy Of Believing You Know Better Than Our Great God Who Created Cannabis (Marijuana) Is So Pathetic & Unbecoming A Man Of Your Obvious Intelligence.
Genesis States That At The End Of Creation Week, God Looked Down On All That He Had Made & Didn’t Pronounce That It Was Just OK Or Even Good, But That It Was ALL VERY GOOD (Gen.1:31) & That Every Green & Seed Bearing Herb, Including Cannabis Was To Be For Us As MEAT (Gen.1:29-30) & God Further States Though His Inspired & Holy Word That What God Blesses & Gives Us, Let No Man Curse & Take Away & Also Woe Unto Them That Decree Unrighteous Decrees (Prohibition Laws) (Isa.10:1). And Then There’s: Wherein God Speaks Of Some Departing From The Faith (Truth) & Giving Heed To Seducing Spirits/Liars & Doctrines Of Devils (Your Drug Czar & The DEA), Speaking Lies (Obvious)In Hypocrisy & Having Theirs & Your Conscience’s Seared & Commanding Us To ABSTAIN FROM MEATS Which God Has Created To Be Received With Thanksgiving By Them Which Believe & Know The Truth.(1Tim. 1:1-5)
As A 63 Year Old Father & Grandfather Of 3 Each I Will Always Prefer That They Consume Cannabis Rather Than Dangerous & Deadly Alcohol That God Has Specifically Warned Us About The Use & Abuse Of, Stating: “Be SOBER & Vigilant Etc.(1 Peter 5:8) & To Avoid Strong Drink & Becomming Overcharged With Gluttony & Drunkenness (Luke 21:34).
As A 40+ Year Moderate Cannabis Consumer Who Has Never Been Addicted To Anything In My Life I Have Enjoyed Perfect Health Without Even One Days Illness Which I Attribute To Eating Only Health(y) Food(s) & Moderate Use Of Cannabis Which I Believe Is The World’s Finest Preventative Medicine Known To Humankind, But Therein May Lay The Reason For Your Continuing The Madness Of Prohibition As During This 40+ Years I’ve Never Taken Even One Big Pharma Drug, Not Even An Aspirin & Now That The Not Supreme Court Has Decided That AmeriKa Is No Longer “We The People” But “We The People” Incorporated, The Reasoning Behind Continuing This Prohibition Becomes Quite Obvious; That This Madness Is Really Only About Increasing Corporate Profits, Shareholder Dividends & Supplying The Much Too Addictive Cash To All The Agencies Who Continue To Administer This Insane & Ungodly Policy On Your Behalf.
Wake Up Mr. President & Think Of All The Individuals & Families You Are Destroying While Providing Fodder For The Highly Profitable Private & Public Incarceration Industries. What Does It Say When A Nation With Less Than 3% Of The World’s Population Has Over 25% Of All Those Incarcerated Worldwide?
I Repeat With Emphasis: Shame On You & Your Administration Choosing To Continue The Madness.
James N. Davidson
this is bull shit i thought obama would be for leagalization not oppose what the fuck is going on with this country i am serioustly thinking about bouncing out of this country because when i was younger i was proud to be an american now i am not so sure.
I SMELL IMPEACHMENT
That would wipe that smile off his face
The only way this administration could turn itself around is to end cannabis prohibition and start up massive marijuana and hemp industries and create hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of new lucrative jobs in the span of 1-2 years…. all the while slowing down global warming, lowering our health care costs, vastly lowering our drug war spending, lower our deficit, help world hunger and more.
back in the 1930’s, cannabis was touted as being able to make more than 25,000 different products…….imagine what we could do now with our technology and good ol american ingenuity…. it will transform the world…. for the better
Are they Freaking crazy! It has been proven that ciggs and alchol are more deadly than Marijuana, it’s time for our government to start listening to it’s people all of it’s people not just the one who spend millions of dollars to buy what they want. Or should I say who they want. lets not forget that Marijuana is a weed that was put on this earth by Mother Earth herself, it actually does grow wild in places. Like my father use to say back in the day you would have a person high on pot walk up to you and flash you the peace sign, now that the war on drugs has been inacted you have a person walk up to you pull a gun and say give me your money, thats because the gavernment went after all the pot crops so people started making their own drugs and look at what thats gotten us crime and violence is up Meth use is an epidemic and so is crack these are all man made drugs.. I say leave our crops alone. FREE THE WEED!!!! Thank You..
@ yoni – reformers ARE trying to educate the politicos and the populace, however the politicos repeatedly ignore the truth, and the opinions of their OWN dea administrative law judge(s) and their OWN research…education is futile if the “student” does not want to learn…time and again the government and the people have proven they don’t want to know the truth…the media is complicit in this as well…even in the SF bay area the news stations paint the medical cannabis industry as shady and underhanded…
And these people are who we put into office!! WHY? TO waste more money while they sit on their butts collecting a paycheck from us the US PEOPLE yet when we the same people ask for legalization and taxation do the officials listen to us? NO!!! what ever happened to the constitution “WE THE PEOPLE” seems like it is more like “we the govt” i say vote against all anti-marijuana people who want to run for office and lets put those who are pro-marijuana in to office.
I told everybody about this guy (Obama), regarding the marijuana issue when he was running for President, that he would be no different than his predecessors.
It will never change as long as we vote in politicians along this damned two-party system that dominates the country; taking money from the working class to give to the wealthiest among us.
When BIG PHARMA gives you millions to run your election and re-election campaigns, you can’t turn around and schil for a plant that grows freely, and in turn destroys their business.
One day hopefully we ALL wake up.
I like their diagram on there that lists Washington state as having more deaths by drug use than by motor vehicle. That could be alarming at first if you don’t understand how people that like to use statistics to their advantage work.
According to Washington state department of health, Washington State Vital Statistics report for 2008 found at this link http://www.doh.wa.gov/ehsphl/chs/chs-data/death/htmltables/e8.htm You find the following information to start.
1,052 drug related deaths
762 alcohol related deaths
572 Motor Vehicle Traffic
Awww crap the the Drug Czar was right, DAMNIT…..
What the Drug related deaths doesn’t break down is what type? prescription or narcotics. But then if you dig deeper into poisoning section they clearly list intentional and unintentional deaths by narcotics
as the following.
378 Narcotics & Psychodysleptics (e.g., cannabis, cocaine, heroin, etc.) (X42, X62, Y12)
Oho…liars be found. Statistics don’t lie, but the problem is they are only a fraction of the truth. A snap shot, but your only getting a singular point of view and that can be distorted for anyone’s use. What the drug czar is saying is more people died from drug use( including federally approved prescription drugs ) than car accidents.
What they aren’t saying is how much is that from actual schedule 1 drugs. This of gives them a back door to put spin later and say ” According to statistics drug deaths are lower than accidents, We’re Winning! ”
The lesson, numbers can never give you the whole immutable truth. They are always subject to interpretation
p.s. Alcohol caused deaths was greater than motor vehicle accidents…interesting.
Eff Obama.
I voted for Obama once. I will not make the same mistake again.
My votes will now forevermore be reserved for candidates sympathetic to common sense.
Ron Paul 2012!!
So our goals are pretty much hopeless right? If the people vote for legalization its really not going to matter.
Obama you have lost my vote for your disrespect for marijuana
I guess it would be a real shame for our kids to grow up to be pot heads like: Bill Clinton, Barack Obama or Michael Phelps. It’s unfortunate for history’s sake that some of these peoples dreams weren’t shattered by their “pot smoking”. I guess it’s OK to ruin the lives of everyone else as long as it didn’t happen to them. What a joke!! 🙁
I will not vote Obama for 2012, will not. This is absolutely ridiculous. I’m not even a cannabis smoker and I advocate legalization, regulation and taxation. The block quotes in this are complete lies, there is no proof for these allegations.
Where is Obama’s Science based policy?
Where is his transparency (signing bills in cover of darkness)
Where is his anti war policy? (sent more troops to Afganistan since January 2009 than Bush in his entire two terms)
Now with the Interpol immunities, and the growing power of the Patriot act, the idea that the government has the right to assassignate citizens after they have been deemed ‘terrorist’
Obama will not get his second term, the international bankers will fail, and cannabis and freedom will be legal!
the people need to stand and fight
I remember reading a few years ago (on your site?) about a libertarian party candidate for president stating if he won, he would end prohibition by presidential proclamation. He did publish his proclamation. Needless to say, he lost the lp primary and never ran. Can the President end prohibition if he really wanted to? Can you reprint his proclamation?
[Paul Armentano responds: Legalization can only take place by amending the US Controlled Substances Act of 1970. This can only take place the passage of legislation — such as HR 2943 the Act to Remove Federal Penalties for Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults http://capwiz.com/norml2/issues/alert/?alertid=13568661 — by Congress. That’s Congress, as in your federal members of the Senate and the House of Representatives — not the President! The President can set the tone for the debate, but it is only Congress that introduces and votes on legislation. The President only signs legislation into law after it has been approved by Congress. Even an executive order by the President is non-binding. So the answer to your question is ‘no;’ Congress not the President has the ultimate authority to end marijuana prohibition. Congress enacted prohibition and Congress has to end it.]
come on cali the time is now to stuff the vote down washingtons throat and then watch them all fall in line for their tax money … you lied to us mr president … but the bandwagon will come around again…
I was an enthusiastic supporter of Obama prior to his election. Among other things I thought he would at least liberalize cannabis policy. His approach to this has been extremely disappointing to say the least.
I hope there will be someone else to vote for in 2012. Someone who has the integrity to take a more enlightened approach to cannabis use and the “War on Drugs” in general. I cannot stand the thought of voting for him again, or for any other supporter of the “War on Drugs”.
I doubt I’m the only one who feels that way.
Our country, is no longer OUR country it’s the governments and the really rich. We have been over-run by illegals, and when it comes time to vote on the important issues they ignore us and tell us we are wrong for wanting what’s right for our home. They don’t want to legalize weed because the ones on top that benefit from sending inocent people to jail for one joint can’t imagine life without their private jets for a few months. They dont realize that after the 6 months it would take to stabalize legalizing weed sales, they would be making the same if not more than having weed on the stupid drug list… For saying that underage kids will smoke they drink more now and that is way more dangerous.
From this point forward, I refuse to vote for anyone who is not pro-marijuana legalization. I am tired of our Govt ignoring our pleas and continuing this war on Freedom Loving Americans! Please, all of you that care about liberty – join me. Don’t vote for anyone who refuses to state their view on the subject if they are running for office. I voted for President Obama thinking that he would be understanding on this subject; after all, he admits smoking it himself (unlike Clinton who claims he didn’t inhale…). He still has time to redeem himself in my eyes, but at this point in his presidency, it is starting to look like his is just like the rest of the Washington bunch in spite of his “Yes We Can” mantra. I am just incredibly disappointed and feel totally duped at this point in time. By the way, I’m 54 and an ex-marine. I’ve written in several of these blogs as of late because something needs to be done to change what I see as totally Un-American. By the way, I am totally outraged that otherwise good law abiding Americans are having their doors busted in in the middle of the night to serve search warrants because they think someone in the house might have some small amount of marijuana. We all have to stand together to stop this madness!!! Voting is one way to do this so make sure you are aware of the candidates opinion on this issue before you cast your vote!
This is absolutely outrageous! If California legalizes Cannabis this November and the Obama Administration decides to cause conflict with the voters’ wishes, he will immediately loose my vote in 2012 and I encourage you to feel the same way! Also, spread this to all of your friends! Don’t even hesitate to contact his administration and let them know they will no longer have your vote. I am in the process of writing them a letter RIGHT NOW!
fuck the government
Obama can’t veto a State law all he can do is enforce it federally which would consist of sending the DEA in and raiding shops that are selling legally under State law. Make sure you contact your elected representatives stop Leonhart from being appointed to Director of DEA and to support the measure to remove all federal laws on marijuana and make it strictly a state matter.
i am really disgusted by our government and the usage of unnecessary force. ridiculous.
Oh the games they play. It will come back to haunt them Big Time.
Obama said at one time, “for those of you who didn’t vote for me I hope to earn your respect”. — If it hasn’t happened yet, (and it hasn’t), it’s not going to happen at all.
Well, Paul, this shows it right here:
See? If not for marijuana prohibition, 100% of high school seniors would find it easy to get marijuana! Don’t look at it as 17 of 20 seniors find it easily and 5 of the 17 can get it in an hour. We’re spending $15.5 billion to make sure the 3 out of 20 still can’t find it and another 12 will take longer than an hour.
Now just shut up an accept it… or the dog here gets it!
Here’s a change…. a link to Steven Colbert. His guest last night, former governor of New Mexico, and a Republican to boot. he’s on our team. Here’s the link- click on the 5th video down GARY JOHNSON for President- 2012!!
http://www.colbertnation.com/video?keywords=gary+johnson
Refusing to re-elect President Obama for a second term if he doesn’t get on board with the American people and help us get marijuana legalized sounds like a good idea – but, his republican opponent could potentially be even worse…
I wonder, does anyone know if the new Tea Party believes in freedom and would support legalization of Marijuana??? If so, the Dems and Reps better look out because I am totally disgusted with them at this point in time!
I am 51 and up until 2008, I had voted only once in my life – and that was a state election (New Mexico) where I voted against every incumbant – especially that marble mouthed redneck Bruce King for governor. I voted for Gary Johnson. And I am glad I did. He was the best gov NM ever had. I have a great eye for talent.
I voted for president in 2008 and I voted for Obama. I am an INDEPENDANT. Immediately after his election I wrote him and told him that no matter what good he had accomplished by 2012, if he didn’t legalize pot, I’d vote his ass out.
And now guess who comes along as a pro legalization candidate just in the nick of time? Gary Johnson. Get my drift??????
When is the government gonna realize that it’s soul purpose is as a service to it’s people? Not the other way around.
The government is a TOOL for THE PEOPLE to UTILIZE.. NOT the OTHER WAY AROUND.
We the People, guys.
I thought there wasn’t any reshearch going on with mary jane by the feds how can they report” respiratory and mental illness, poor motor performance, and cognitive impairment, among other negative effects ” with out reshearching seems like somebody in the gov ‘s reshearching ( must be blazen one up to find out huh?) wake up washington it’s time to legalize!!!!!
I don’t understand. I know people who have fake Xanax prescriptions just to get high and sell them. What does it mean to be an American anyways… Fuck this country. what happened to the Government looks after the States and the STATES ARE SUPPOSE TO HAVE MOST OF THE POWER. Makes me Hate this Country
Well, this sucks. I wish Obama had something better to say about marijuana. He is a prohibitionist and a drug warrior. He is trying to get new health legislation going in this country, and yet is supporting the continued war on drugs. I really was hoping he would take it more seriously. But I wonder sometimes if he is reflecting the way Americans really feel about marijuana, like they just want to keep it illegal but laugh at it at the same time. We know marijuana is no laughing matter. I really think Obama wants to get re-elected, and he cannot afford to piss off any more people than he already has. He is a game player and he is playing the game. I’ll say this, though – marijuana has a much better chance under Obama than in the past four presidents since Jimmy Carter. So he SAYS he’s against legalization. That rhetoric is clear. Yet he’s instructed the justice Dep’t not to go after medical cannaibs users in states where it’s legal. As far as the shit spewed out by this report – what else is he supposed to say? He knows it’s all bullshit too.
Obama wants re election. He wants votes. In his second term, he might be more pro-marijuana, especially as long as all of us keep plugging away. He’s wondering how badly we all want legalization. It’s like the old adage – if you really want change look at yourself and ask why it’s still illegal. Don’t worry about Obama.
“Keeping drugs illegal reduces their availability and lessens willingness to use them,” — So they feel it can destroy my will to choose personal freedom! Ha, ha, ha I was born a free man and I will die a free man and no amount of big brother social engineering can ever break my will(ingness)!
If Obama were to legalize marijuana today, he would not become a second term president. He would completely tank in the polls and have no chance of getting re-elected. Then some jackass would get into office, re-authorize the DEA to exercise many more raids on innocent people, etc. The drug war would be elevated to heights none of us could possibly imagine. IT’S UP TO US, PEOPLE. KEEP GIVING FINANCIALLY, KEEP CALLING YOUR LEGISLATORS, KEEP MARCHING, KEEP GOING UNTIL IT IS LEGAL.
Language is the key here I guess. They chose “minimize misuse” versus eliminate in addressing pharmaceuticals abuse. At least they hint at efficacy here. Strong potential for comparative policy alignment since medical cannabis has proven itself clinically.
Later on they say they want a science based approach but openly admit they lack good data to be making the claims of this “proven system.” Especially in terms of health impacts. Kind of kills the epidemiology and other researched support to continue down this same path.
Recidivism rates mentioned only apply because the drug courts enforce penalties for failing enforced testing while in “treatment.” This is not proof of treatment, but simple proof of enforcement in the rule of the current models. Bah.
Included excerpt of the strong passage about pharmaceuticals being the gravest threat as they are considered “safe” alternatives to the illegal drug trade and the propagation of this alternative for many recreational users has spilled over to the teen market. If it is okay for mom and dad to take 10 pills a day, must be the way society wants them to go right?
From page 30:
“Prescription drug abuse is the fastest-growing drug problem in the United States. Opiate overdoses,
once almost always due to heroin use, are now increasingly due to abuse of prescription painkillers. The latest Monitoring the Future data show that among young people, 7 of the top 10 abused substances are
pharmaceuticals. These realities demand action, but any policy response must be approached thoughtfully.
The potent medications that science has developed have great potential for relieving suffering
as well as the potential for abuse. There are many examples: humane hospice care for cancer patients
would be impossible without prescription opioids; benzodiazepines are the bridge many people with
serious anxiety disorders need to begin the process of overcoming their fears; and stimulants have a
range of valuable uses across medicine. Any policy in this area must strike a balance between our desire
to minimize misuse of pharmaceuticals and the need to maximize their legitimate benefits.”
Also the push in the strategy to pursue furthering efforts for more of the “per se” DUID laws in other states is definitely not something that bodes well for many. I’m not talking about driving under the influence but the ramifications of being charged with a severe charge 3 weeks or more after responsible use due to roadblocks or other intrusive testing regardless of fault or circumstance. They use that inane roadblock study in there to support the claims of the rise of DUID as a serious problem to be addressed. Preposterous. The threshold levels are too low for cannabis in most states as is.
Mr President, LICK MY BALLS sir.
Well people better start watching the Steele case in CA. I believe on June or July 19th 2010 there is a court case which could lead to forcing a change in marijuana scheduling from schedule one to schedule five if I am correct in my memory.
It is a shame that this method for change has to be “drug” through such a horrible process. I wonder how many Mexicans need to die and how many more Americans need to be put in jail before prohibition starts to work. Does our government (Congress, President and Justice System/Law Enforcement) think they can kill and arrest their way to victory? How many more will die and how many more lives will be ruined before we change the most racist and destructive law we have ever had?
I’m taking Obama off my fan page list on Facebook! I thought he promoted hope, but now he’s promoting fear.
With a simple definition of marijuana, cannabis can again be a useful legal plant while maintaining the official prohibition of marijuana. A simple definition of marijuana, by itself, can reduce most of the harm that is associated with it. A simple definition of marijuana can produce better social, economic, medical and legal results. A simple definition of marijuana requires much less legislative effort than full-out legalization. A simple definition of marijuana can be plainly stated, easily understood, and reflect the obvious reality of marijuana. Check it out:
“The term ‘marijuana’ means all parts
of the smoke produced by the combustion
of the plant Cannabis sativa L.”
Join the Peloton, and demand a simple definition of marijuana to evolve the exercise of civics.
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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. And I mean that in more ways than just relating to drug policy.
Smoked cannabis does not cause respiratory illness, according to Dr. Taskin. There is strong ground to dispute that assertion!
This can’t go on much longer, i mean seriously?!? Who are they kidding?
God i hate that guy and his drug czar is just as stupid.
Who cares? If WE THE PEOPLE use our RIGHT TO VOTE and make this legal then it doesn’t matter what they say! I’m really surprised (and very disappointed) that Obama is approaching it this way. But, none the less, this just goes to show they are worried about it Actually happening! 🙂 We have Got to get out of this backwards system!!
Where does the idea the Feds have that reducing drug use is a good thing? Well certain drugs anyways, not like Rx’s or alcohol or tobacco (All remarkably unsafer than weed).
I am an American citizen, and my Pursuit of Happiness involves the victimless “crime” of using cannabis. But sadly, I am an second class citizen, and I don’t get to be happy. I don’t like being hung over, I don’t want cancer, that’s why I use cannabis to recreate, despite the insane legal risks.
Drug use is a civil liberty. This is supposed to be a free country, don’t tell me what i can or can’t put into MY body!
I truly believe that the War on Drugs is just something politicians view as political equity, something they can always turn to to stir up some support. Too bad the American people are waking up. If politicians continue on this path it will only (by our votes) lead them out of office.
Holy Smokes! How was a law ever passed that forbids any policy or resources to look at another approach besides the enforcement of prohibition! It’s appears to be a self-serving cycle of policy to continue funding ones own moral agenda, specifically any agency associated with the continued support of prohibition. Most likely from the Nancy Reagan era of “Marijuana Alert.” Urine test them all and we will load the prisons with pot smoking hippies. “That will teach the children not to use drugs.” 30 years later ~ Piss Test’em and lockem Up!
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I waited 35 years to vote for an honest down to earth. Presidet like Mr. Oboma and feel I and all our childeren, family and freinds have again been cheated by yet another lost dream. I felt my battle with hep,lymphoma,ruptured sholder,P.T.S.D,fibromialgia, panic attacks,depression,detereoration of cartilage in my spine,weight loss off and on cant ever sleep,no sleep most nites. the V.A wont even prescribe me marinol! Never again Mr. Pres. NEVER AGAIN.My vote is not to be lied for..Thanks fornothing michele leohart.
“Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit.”
If it has no medicinal value, why does Uncle Sam hold the patent on ‘cannabinoids as neuroprotectants’?
HMMM??
There is no doubt in my mind that Obama was elected president ONLY because he said he would let scientist decide if cannabis could benefit our country, but now, just like every other president, once in office could care less about any promos made to the people who voted them in as president…
Fine, don’t legalize cannabis, but lets use the plant to fuel vehicles make fabrics make metals and not give a damn about its possible cure for cancer setting right under our noise !!! Keeping cannabis out of the hands of people is nothing more than big companys loosing money (POINT BLANK)
We need to see how this plays out first. I think the White House is attempting to dissuade public opinion in CA right now from voting yes on legalization. They are afraid of being put between a rock and a hard place with regards to how they should respond, should it pass. It’s a bit sad to see such a supposed proponent of “change,” resisting just that out fear. We need to pass this and force Washington to accept what’s coming.
I don’t typically support third party alternatives as far as elections go, and I think it’s a matter of time before one of the two majors becomes the pro-legalization party (if anything to capitalize on the votes,) and I think there’s a better chance of that party being the Democrats, as their voters tend to already be far more supportive of legalization.
I’m in grade 11 now, and from first-hand experience since I was in grade 7 (a year in which I was offered to buy marijuana from a grade 2 school-mate!), I can tell you that marijuana was and still is the most easily obtainable drug.Prohibition does little to prevent its use, especially here in developing South Africa!!
Alcohol abuse is rife here, especially in our townships and rural areas. As many reformers know, legalizing marijuana will do wonders for the economy and the safety of society as a whole.
When you live in a city where the effects of alcoholism and poverty pass your eyes every single day, where kidz get stabbed for a R10 (barely a dollar) in order to buy tik (crystal meth, which is almost as easily available as marijuana in out rural areas), where sexual abuse is rampant and the myth that raping a virgin will cure you of AIDS is still in many circles accepted and acted upon (in many cases under the influence of alcohol), no matter what class of society one is from (you will find booming townships right next to well established middle to upper class suburbs), one MUST at some point, especially teenagers like myself, stop and wonder what our world leaders think of the people they are leading. Are we really at the top of their priorities?
Politicians of the worlds leading nations must take into consideration what effects the unjust prohibtion of marijuana plays in a developing nation such as my home country, South Africa.
i believed in this guy. id defended him when conservatives insulted him. now this comes up and lost my faith. there will be no progress. obama is a puppet to the POWER ELITE. there will always to inequality in this society. coporations and government will soon be feared. the longer we wait, the more time we’re wasting. THE AMERICAN SOCIETY HAS ACHIEVED FALSE CONSCIOUSNESS.
Paul, I found the saved web page. On Jan 21, 2007, Steve Kubby published his “Executive Order 13420 — Dismantling the DEA” on his blog. He promised to sign it on 1/20/2008 if he was elected President. Was Kubby order unrealistic?
[Paul Armentano responds: Executive orders carry no statutory weight. They do not change law, and orders do not need to be abided by future administrations. Marijuana law at the federal level is an issue primarily for Congress.]
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Obama and his pathetic administration are a joke and his whole campain was nothing but a fraud. The people of Califorinia will not listen to his foolish words and will surely Vote for Cannabis Legalization in Novemeber!!!
Wow. Thank god it is a minority, but I CAN’T BELIEVE some of you still think Obama is going to legalize it in his second term. Unbelievable.
And a lot of you will still vote for him because he is the lesser of two evils if it is a neo-con running against him… STOP IT… The reason why we only have two shitty choices is because you constantly vote for the lesser of two evils. PLEASE vote 3rd party if neither establishment candidates clearly support reform/legalization. Voting 3rd party IS NOT a wasted vote. Quite the opposite actually. Voting for the lesser of two evils is CERTAINLY a wasted vote.
Honestly, my solution sounds so simple, yet is so improbable.
People must refuse drug tests. If they don’t… if we don’t turn this aspect of the drug war around… they will be a part of everyday life! People must look to other ways of employment besides “big business”. But they won’t. Sigh.
They are making criminals out of everybody. Yet those on the fence continue to ignore this… and become wage-slaves for this ever-increasing government/big businesses.
People do not want to save themselves for the most part.
This looming health care overhaul has made people angry, but they don’t realize that the Republicans are in on it too.. at least the parts that criminalize people for not having it. (Romney is all for making more criminals)
Hope is not lost for the cannabis movement, but we need a lot more people on board. I pray for a “civil rights movement II” sometime in my life. We are losing the battle on ALL aspects of our liberty. The War on Drugs is not the only wasteful, unconstitutional display of political ignorance going on.
Our country is ran by idiots…
Marijuana medicinal plant will eventually be legalized everywhere because guess what: it should not have been illegal in the first place, and people are starting to wake up to this simple fact. Marijuana medicinal plant would never have become illegal, had it not been for the racist prohibitionist Harry Anslinger and his infamous Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 which was motivated not by scientific discoveries, but the most ignominious racist considerations. This status quo cannot be preserved with respect to marijuana medicinal plant that has been used by humans for over 10,000 years without one single fatal outcome, without any physical withdrawal syndrome as opposed to alcohol and most controlled prescription drugs. Cannabis use has been shown to suppress violent behavior, and I am sure that in the future it will be shown to be a “barrier”, rather than a “gateway” to alcohol and hard drug use. In all the polls over 80% of participating public want medical marijuana legalized, since its current classification by the DEA as Schedule I drug is against all scientific reality. But why listen to me in this respect when it is enough to listen to none other than the American Medical Association which now recognized the remarkable medicinal properties of Cannabis Sativa medicinal plant, and is urging the government to change its classification ASAP
Manny: There’s a fly in the ointment – hold your nose.
Respondant: So! Why is the ointment stinking?
Manny: The stench comes from the blatant and outrageous mendacity attributed to 1937. [Is] or [Isn’t] is a great argument for the courts – but – it’s as insignificant as any other deception and pales in comparison to one single provable fact ignored and unchallenged since 1937.
“Cannabis is not now…nor has it ever been…nor will it ever be a schedule I subsatnce. That’s a delusion for confusion.
But – then again – Jesus was branded a crook – and – the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls.
The relevance is that the Federal Controlled Substance Act-CSA established the most gigantic fraud on earth by including cannabis as a schedule I substance. The significance is the Act established a federal regulatory system designed to combat [recreational drug abuse]. It then hid behind its own mendacity to insist that cannabis has “NO CURRENT MEDICAL APPLICATION.” [Any] Qualified Patient in the world can attest to that grand deception and utterly false statement. The point is – The CSA does not apply to the use of medicinal cannabis. Recognizing the difference between “recreational drug abuse” and “medicinal use,” the grand finale should be an all-out push to reschedule cannabis from schedule I to schedule III. That’s the magic pill for everything that ails anybody.
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Gary Johnson’s Colbert appearance was good, and I hope that Johnson runs for President in 2012 it would give me someone to be energized for, could trust, and could really get our country back on the right track after Obama and Bush.
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/309253/may-10-2010/gary-johnson
This is the United Place of America not the United States of America. There are no more States the Federal Government has taken full control of America. It’s time to stand up as a Country and show these elitist pigs that we’re not going to take it anymore. Our tax dollars prosecute marijuana offenders, our tax dollars pay for big business executives to take their vacations and fly in their fancy jets our tax dollars pay for everyone one of the corrupt politicians in the Federal Government. The last thing I ever wanted to do was get like this but at this point the entire American population should be outraged at how our Government is treating us. Liberals, Conservatives, Independents and all the other political groups should be working together to change America and make it the great country it once was back when we declared independence from the oppressive British rule now our Government is oppressing us again only this time we don’t have another country to go to we need to fight back and take our country back!
Sounds to me like they’re going to start making doctors into snitches and employers responsible for piss testing everyone again.
Obama, I liked you at first, but now you’re looking more like “BIG BROTHER” than anyone else.
If you ask me, Obama is nothing but some sort of false prophet. He makes promises that he doesnt follow through on and he changes his b***s*** policies in order to keep the American people on a short leash. The saddest part is I bet more than half the people here voted for him, I know I did. I believe it was Mr. President himself who once advertised his bringings of ‘CHANGE’ to America. Change? The only change I see is more elaborate and PATHETIC excuses from his sad, unorganized administration (and of course his little b**ch drug czar and an overall more disappointed American public than wish Bush. Change you say, Obama? The only change that we need is YOU!!
I really don’t understand how they can recognize state medical marijuana laws but at the same time uphold their federal level prohibition? Is that not the biggest hypocrisy? The Controlled Substances act states Marijuana has no medicinal value but they recognize the state programs? You would think they would like to review this information since the Controlled Substances act is 40 years old…
Gil Kerlikowske is a typical propaganda-spewing lackey who hasn’t sense enough to see the truth when it stares him in the face and screams at the top of it’s lungs.
Idiotic statements like Gil Kerlikowske has just released tell the world how backwards a nation the United States has become by allowing it’s most moronic and uneducated imbeciles to not only run their country but to deliberately run it into the ground.
Keep spewing your garbage, Obamatons…the truth IS filtering it’s way into society whether you keep telling outright lies or not.
The point has long been passed where the repetition of the lies enough times forces people to accept the lies as though they had any factual basis behind them.
People are beginning to think for themselvds again, no matter what our respective governments want us to think.
OVERGROW THE WORLD!
This is becoming tiresome. Can someone explain to me how it is that we keep voicing to our government what we want and they keep denying us, WE THE PEOPLE, what we have proven, over and over and over again is safe, right and God-given? I have only one word…REVOLUTION. It is time.
I would be more inclined to take this stance seriously from a president that doesn’t openly use tobacco and alcohol. I am so sickened by the blatant hypocrisy from all politicians that say their taking the moral “high ground”( no pun intended) by supporting prohibition while they use and support the use of much more harmful products. There is so much money being made from these policy makers from tobacco and alcohol that of course they won’t support the legal use of competition. I don’t even want to start with all the synthetic chemicals being prescribed legally by doctors that time and time again have resulted in more harmful side effects than the condition itself. SO DISAPPOINTED WITH MY VOTE FOR OBAMA.
Obama is a jackass, just wait until gas hits five bucks a gallon.
The feds are holding out for one reason. It is the easiest way to get involved in your private life. The very first roots of marijuanna prohibition were sown in controlling mexican migrant workers, then copied to control black americans. In the sixties they discovered that they could arrest anyone that was out of line by just slapping the pot smoking hippy label on them.
The Federal Government has no constitutional right to police the people, only the states do. While states are choosing to pick thier battles over immigration and health care in respect to states rights, they are fighting an uphill battle. They gave away thier rights when they allowed the federal government to police drug use in everyday people for the last 4 decades. Every govenor, senator and representative that doesn’t get this is a complete idiot.
You can’t pick and choose the liberties you give away. Liberty and Freedom are just that. There is no almost free. It is all or none.
Get out and vote! Forget how you have been told to vote! Forget the minor issues they try and confuse you with! Forget the “freebees” they are offering. They don’t want you to focus on the real issue. Our politians should be focusing on ONE THING, taking back our states rights and keeping the Federal Government out of the way. Then everyone can vote on thier state issues and if you disagree with the outcome, you can move to a state you agree with. Don’t vote for Candidates because of thier views on Marijuanna, Abortion, Immigration, any war, taxes or any other issue. Do they fight for States rights or not? That is the most important thing right now.
I cannot believe the cowardice of the two drug warriors on WAMU. I listened to the broadcast and could not have been more disappointed. They berated the concept of legalization, continued the same old drug war propaganda about the dangers of marijuana. Then when it was time to take questions from callers these two gutless wonders left the studio so as not to have to answer any questions from citizens who believe that legalization is the only answer to end the violence and remove the criminal element from the marijuana trade. Prohibition has never worked to modify personal conduct.
i fully support legalization on Marijuana, altho im from Mexico, i need to say the following, the rock bottom reason marijuana is not legal yet it is because being legal, it would change the world order, and im very sorry to say this but the United States of America will be the first nation to collapse, thats why they are fighting with all these lies, the American system as we acknowledge right now would become OBSOLETE, marijuana means, cheaper medicine, cheaper plastics, fuel, clothing, food, i mean… cheaper FUCKING EVERYTHING. Cannabis, in some kind of political and social point of view means: Power to the people.
I certainly don’t think Obama is going to push for legalization in his second term. I also don’t think any other candidate with a real shot at the white house in 2012 will push for legalization either. We need to concentrate on the states. If we can get this passed in CA, an example can be set for other states to follow. We need to work on increasing public support, we need to pass the 50% mark nationwide. We need to set the stage for a candidate in 2016 who’s willing to get behind us, or at least not laugh at us.
When California clinches the vote in November to make marijuana legal, it’s going to make the 21ST CENTURY INQUISITORS the DEA rethink their tactics on how their going to fuck us more. It will be like taking candy away from a baby and all they will do is go WAH! WAH! WAH! The FEDERAL OVERLORDS are starting to fear the will of the American people, they need a taste of their own medicine. The real green jobs are knocking on our door. A stimulus move that would not cost the government a wooden nickle, instead it is costing us billions of dollars of our tax dollars on MARIJUANA PROHIBITION. THE UNICORN MACHINE IS STILL IN FULL FORCE and OBAMAS MIND MUST BE ON THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON. But it was ok for him to inhale and become President. THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS HERE. THE NEW AMERIKA! I am still trying to figure out what the proven methods are more prisons and terror tactics.
Why don’t we just start peaceful public protests over the summer? Think about it, how many marijuana beneficiaries would publicly support marijuana at the nation’s capital? If the government wants to ignore the issue, we bring it to their attention. Our government is built around the people having our say; and to put our children on the streets, on the doorsteps of the occasionally caught up “provider,” we facilitate drug market related violence. If the drug is provided in a balanced market, large quantities will not be localized. Simple economics concept for, where there is a plentiful demand, supply makes itself available. Large cities and suburbs alike are subject to territory conflict in the form of a power struggle over a monopoly. Let’s be the supply and implement conceptually similar laws that prevent teenagers from selling tequila. The time is now, I guarantee you the violence in the country will decrease, the employee market will become more competitive as less teenagers are willing to throw their potential away for the allure of the psychologically overwhelming opportunity to make money “selling weed,” It presents itself at first as a harmless method to get some quick money, nothing too serious…Oh yea, greed… the world’s loudest complaint regarding the American perspective. Let’s be clear on this. Marijuana is not alcohol and should not be tolerated as alcohol is. Marijuana is not as impairing as the government portrays it to be as people under the effects of marijuana are very aware of their impairment and compensate for it, usually over-doing it. I blame it on the paranoia, either way, this indicates we are in control of our common sense, and make rational decisions (generally as in all cases) in regards to safety. Marijuana has a negligible effect on driving capabilities, and while I do not support driving while using the drug because at this point one is not aware of the impact to follow, I do support driving after the effects have been allowed to set in. Arguably 10-20 minutes is enough time to make the determination. After this the common sense kicks in and a rational choice is made, thus the lack of headlines reading “Teens die in car accident after having binge smoked marijuana.” I think we can all agree the $300 some dollars spent per second in the United States to oppress a people and house a black market spanning coast to coast, generation to generation, age groups from 10-70 and beyond, poverty to riches, the tranquil among us to the greed plagued “thugs” We as a people need to be heard, forget the bureaucratic wealth driven government that ignores the social barriers facing our country, forget the lie that your voice isn’t enough and let’s make something happen. How is it half of the population shed the misconceptions psychologically FORCED onto children of the 1930’s that spread through the media outlets as enraged Hispanic and African Americans who were high, but had completely lost control of their conscious state, but the government fails to recognize it? Ignorance remains reversible, despite the government’s say-so and now is the time to act. For our economy, our medical well-being, our youth and our families; let’s have liberty and justice for all already eh?
Sorry for the Canada reference, I figured if we are going to start imprisoning peaceful citizens of a neighboring ally we ought to give them a small taste of their home country. You know, the same country they pay taxes to and exist through.
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can you find video of obama 2004 as a senator stating ” the war on drugs is a failure, and suggesting decriminalize cannabis and play it on times square to show how much he twisted.
Unfortunately only UK news sources are reporting on this, but our media will be forced to report on it sooner or later… Obama is delaying the Iraq pullout (the one that Bush set).
All we get form him is lies lies lies.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/12/iraq-us-troop-withdrawal-delay
War is peace. Medicines are illegal drugs. Pharmaceuticals are chemicals to enslaving us.
the govt. plans on winning the war on weed by drug testing, besides pre employment testing they are making companies random test, ihave a lot of friends in ohio and indiana who have lost thier jobs they were good workers and never missed work but that doesnt matter they came to work and were told to test or be fired,i recently had to give up weed i smoked for 30 years and never worried about being fired for it,thanks to the govt. we have no rights anymore,they will win unless drug testing is stopped somehow
the govt. will win the war on weed because they plan to drug test evryone all the time unless we can stop this we will lose they are going to randomly test everyone and if you toke you cant work or drive we must stop this some how we have very few rights anymore
the fight for marijuana as an acceptable form of medicine in light of our big business government is proof that our cops and DEA need work. our taxes are being wasted and that is the biggest joke. busting people for weed is just plain stupid.
i too voted for Obama but it saddens me he sold out. he’s a bigger and better puppet than bush?
im a junior in high school and ive smoked weed all this year. i wasnt into it like i am now because i was “one” of the blind community hidden by the dea’s political bs. while smoking weed ive ran track made it 7th in districts had a 3.1 on my report card and im perfectly fine ive had a loss of friends but thats because they dont know the truth….legalize marijuana
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States [any state] have the sovereign right to contol substances.
The Federal Controlled Substance Act
regulates “Recreational drug abuse.” Apples and oranges.
100 Jo Anne Ludwig Stinger
If you say Revolution…you’re going to political prison…the ones that they built for drug abusers. Sure! drug abusers. That’s what they built them for. But – what you suggest was the way we won our “freedom.”
presidents quote,
“We have many proven methods for reducing the demand for drugs”
ok, lets hear about it them, because in the last 70 years nothing that anyones has done has reduced demand. not even a percentage point. Mr president, someone is giving you some BS inforamtion. wheres the proof?
nothing, absolutely nothing. not incarceration, not the swat team shock and awe tactits, not the increased spending on law enforcement. the only thing we know to be proven is that you cant stop the will of the people.
The “Drugged Driving” part of this new policy is terrifying. Cops will stop anyone leaving a MM clinic or someone that bought papers, or just someone they think may have smoked pot in the last 2 months. If you are pulled over and test positive for marijuana you will be arrested and charged with “driving while impaired” even if you have not used weed in a month. In some states there is zero tolerance and mandatory jail time. Any marijuana user in this country is at risk of being arrested, jailed and revocation of license for having marijuana metabolites in thier system while not ever being guilty of impaired driving. Voting for Obama is not in my vocabulary. Do as I did and let the white house know they lost your vote. It’s the only thing they care about. If every person that enjoys cannabis wrote and said they will not vote for any person that would hurt Americans, maybe some notice would be taken. Please send a letter now. I here by pledge to only vote for people who support marijuana legalization. Aloha
folks do not let doctors drug test you during normal visits. this is something the govenment may try to force on you. especially with a government ran health care system. you will have far more implications than just drug treatment if you come up positve on drug test. names on database, increased rates, denial of services and jobs.these are things that can happen with this new drug policy.
I have stuck up for Obama a few times on this board. I still think he’s far superior to his predecessor, Bush, who was every bit the MJ prohibitionist. (And I sure don’t see many presidential candidates in either party who will have the guts to legalize MJ. Does anyone know of any major candidates who have said they would?)
However, I have to say that Obama is pissing me off more and more. He does some good things, then he turns around and gets weird on other issues. I’m starting to think he’s a phony in some ways, a typical politician. I was hoping for another FDR–I fear he’s more akin to LBJ.
I’m sure now that MJ won’t get legalized on the federal level for many years to come–the politicos simply don’t have the backbone or inclination. I’ve always been a bit suspicious of “states rights”, but this is one of a few instances where I believe the states–not all of them of course–are right. I suspect that even if CA and a few other states do vote to legalize it, you can be certain that many others NEVER will.
Still, here’s hoping that Calif can show the rest of the country the way in November! If Cal does vote to legalize and Obama attempts to intrude, he will very likely lose my vote.
Same old bs.just twisting the words around. If you look at the bottom line more money is being spent for the same old sh…When are they gonna learn that these people are just protecting there cushy government paid jobs.instead of looking at the facts. Obama can speak out of both sides of his mouth with the best of them. we can change things VOTE FOR NO INCUMBENTS couple years we will get our government back ! and if they don’t do it vote them out again. we have to take our country back from Corporate America and put it back in the hands of us
WE THE PEOPLE IN ORDER TO PURSUE A MORE PERFECT UNION!
We are not surprised as to why the US is going bankrupt.
Pouring good money down the drain to finance quixotic efforts is the mark of poor government as it attampts to over extend its control over the lives of individuals who resent such self righteous efforts of the governing minority.
It is not beyond US politicians to expect all Americans will nealtly fall into either the democratic or republican group, and this is the democracy we get: the ability to choose between two individuals who will not do what is necessarily correct as they both make appeals to the oposite sides of some vain and empty issues which will not really help the true problems at hand whatsoever..
I see an alternative. ..Apathy towards the efforts of the US GOvernment as it becomes a tyranny just the same as most other powerful military nations. With such apathy the nations destroys itself withinn because of the ineptitude of a national government obsessed with misguided priorities.
It is quite possible to withdraw necessary support for both politcal factions as they both utterly fail to rescue the US economy.
It seems th US Government always chooses to defend the moneylenders of this temple earth while the business interests of the world rape the world population in their blind effort to drive us extinct.
Their temple shall indeed be greatly disrupted as we expect God to protect the meek as His SOn ahs implied in Gospel.
It is not that the faithful have declared war on big business interests. It just seems we always lack the ability to defend ourselves against their multiple offesnive efforts and any resistance by us makes us appear as an enemy which they must aggressivly and relentlessly destroy so as to maintain the status quo of political power/
The vain eforts of the US government to eradicate the casual usage of marijuana is indeed an extremely misguided waste of money, and will continue to be that way/
The usage of Marijuana is itself a symbol of rebellion against abusive and excessive government regulation… which is the mark of tyranny. It more than anything else represents a refusal to comply with government authority enforced without proper and good reason, but by the sheer might and bullying of politcal authority with all its benefits of punishing individuals for their behavior which is not practiced by the ruling minority..
To the powerful ruler of the world (Whoever it may be). You have destroyed not thousands but millions of Grandfathers and Grandmothers,Fathers and Mothers, Brothers and Sisters, Sons and Daughters ( Not some insects nor fishes in the sea) but FAMILIES! I firmly know that you don’t care as the rest of the world are starting to believe that television makes actors and you should receive an award for it. But in reality, You look like a stupid puppet.(totally no control)
The worlds eyes is on your country and like many Americans, we are hoping on your reform for the Marijuana law. Why? It’s because you have brought the death sentence to countries like mine. UNBELIEVABLE!! DEATH SENTENCE! How many more are YOU gonna kill?? And it wasn’t YOU who started the propaganda but YOU could end it. I work in a courthouse and everyday I see some Mother, Brother, Sister or an elderly one weeping because of the death sentence imposed on them. ( for 300gm least) They are normal people working hard during the day and they go back to their holes to wind down their day.
I used socialize with alcohol nearly everyday after work and am not gonna lie that it makes me feel “confident” like Mike Tyson or a racing car driver even like a teenager on heat! But after watching my favorite uncle die from cancer due to cigarettes and alcohol, as well from doing my own research.. I had decided that my body has been lied to. So I am still going thru psychological torture coz everyday I still crave for my alcohol. It’s been 6 months since my first puff ( without tobacco), urges for alcohol has subsided. No more getting into silly heated quarrels or skirmishes, accidents and loving a wife (not a mate from the pubs). I’d prefer to stay home and RELAX. Wishing people like Marc Emery was in your seat.
Mr Powerful or the people of GODS kingdom please do something as the truth is already on the wall. YOU can be a true LEGEND to the people of the world and not another tyrant.
I appreciate this site so much. It’s so hard to believe that our government would rather ruin the life of our youth than to open their eyes to the statistics and legalize marijuana. Granted, our youth makes their own decisions and knowing that it’s illegal and still buying, selling, using is perhaps wrong. However, with all the facts presented how can they continue to say, “Legalizing drugs would increase accessibility and encourage promotion and acceptance of use” and expect us to sit there and accept that. I have three children and the thought of them buying from a cannabis shop instead of a dealer greatly puts my mind to ease. It’s becoming more appearent that the U.S. gorvernment is more concerned about upholding an old, useless law rather than bettering our country by listening to the people, accepting the facts, and making POSITIVE change for our future. It’s scary really to see how hard these people are hanging on for control. I’d like to see the death tolls of alcohol compared to marijuana- and I don’t mean the deaths of people who were shot by our government for using. Seems like I hear more horror stories about drunks then I do a pot head. Seems like all the people I know who use marijuana are healthier, happier, and safer than those who legaly use alcohol or tobacco. And tobacco… I don’t have to say much on this. I’m certain that the concerns about tobacco being legal and marijuana illegal have already swam through everyone’s thoguhts. Also, have any statistics on the capitolization of marijuana been presented??? Not only would it create more employment opportunities, but it would bring in more tax dollars not just off the product itself but all the paraphinilia to use, grow, etc. etc. Ignorance is killing our economy and our way of life. I don’t know what else to say, this is rather depressing. Especially when you read the comments left by some our hopefuls. Our votes have never mattered, and sadly, they may never matter. Thank you again for all the information! Good stuff.
Well, well, I’m with the comment from #51. I’ll second that idea. It also looks like many of the rest of us feel the same way.
ABOLISH THE SCOUNDRELOUS AND CORRUPTED GOVERNMENT!!!
If some pig headed government scoundrel busted my door down and came in and murdered my pets, he would end up with a RHINO BULLET made of freeze dried chicken SHI-.
It’s time to rise to the occasion for a good cause.
DEATH TO GOVERNMENT SCOUNDRELISM!
ABOLISH THE GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
120 Longtime Puffer
Greetings from The Rebel,
Didn’t we have this healthy debate, you and I?
It may surprise you to know that we all believe that progressiveism has done many wonderful things, and to follow its agenda is honorable – but – to convert the United States of America is a battle they will never win. It’s just not in the nature of patriotic Americans to cave in to socialism, as you can now well see. But don’t cave in to anything other than your own beliefs, even if you can’t bear the weight of freedom.
Hang in there!
If we the people want it legal it should be our choice.
and the government should let it stand.
spreed the word and vote.
Iam a 58 year old man.Iam just learning the pc so bear with me.I have been a alcholic all my life.along with goin to my home group in aa and makeing coffee for the men.Its been 6 yrs now the longest I went without a drink.Of course i neever talk about it. I realy dont have to becouse erb has never caused any problems.Why do they glorify alcohol when it kills millions of people wrecks familys relationships not to mention liver and brain damage to name a few? Also it does not give you the urge to drink!
Obama, first your against this Illegal Immigration bill my state passed. Now your against Legalization of Marijuana in California? Your a walk contradiction, maybe you need to watch videos of your 2004 self on Marijuana and Illegal Immigration. It would help weaken/end this fail Drug war. President Obama, I’m not voting for you, your out of office comes next election. You want another term, decriminalize, legalize and regulate Marijuana, BRING REAL CHANGE! It’s also create jobs!
Hello Rebel,
Nice to hear from you. I wasn’t aware that we were having a debate. My gosh, man, I didn’t even mention the dreaded “S” word!!! LOL
The only reason I even mentioned socialism in past posts was because I got tired of hearing people rag about big govt, and imply that we would all be better off if we just let the states take care of everything. I don’t believe state govts are any more pure or ethical than the fed. I mean, all those evil senators and reps come from the states!
Rebel, as far as “patriotic Americans” not “caving into socialism”, I have to laugh. These dutiful citizens who don’t want to be infected by socialism would have to give up many of their current benefits, including social security, disability and medicare. (A lot of the tea baggers I see look like they’re drawing SS and/or disability!!) Are you willing to take that away from the old folks? You gonna take care of ’em? Also, we’d have to disband the military–heck, the military is one of the largest “social” programs in our country, LOL.
Rebel, if the above things I mentioned aren’t social programs, including the military, please tell me what they are? They sure aren’t private. I think there’s a lot of “patriotic Americans” enjoying the benefits of social programs (ie, socialism) who are in pure denial.
Anyway, take care–here’s a -hit- for the cause.
I hope that the DEA raids California’s shops if the marijuana legalization bill passes. Then, I hope all of the citizens of California stand up for themselves and take up arms and force the DEA back to whatever pit of hell they rose from.
i am 20 years old and ive been smoking pot since my 8th grade year.a kid can get pot anytime where i live at and for me i can get it whenever anywere i want.and booze i cant get all the time.so if u controlle the substance like alcohol it will be less used by kids.
Really ????
You know Rebel a lot of socialists support marijuana legalization. We understand capitalism as not just “free market” but as a system where the government serves the interests of the capitalist class of bosses, bankers, landlords, stockholders, etc. Sometimes this involves government intervention to help the ruling class at the expense of the common people. William Randolph Hearst didn’t want hemp competing with paper so he partnered with Harry Anslinger and used his sensationalist stories in his newspapers to get it banned. This was easier because marijuana was associated with marginalized groups(blacks, Mexicans) and groups people were afraid of “undermining society” i.e. jazz musicians. Later it would be associated with radicalism(mostly socialist), so the government still continued to demonize it.
The point being we don’t consider government action “socialist” if it is being done to help the ruling class and neither would have any of the earlier socialists such as Proudhon, Bakunin, or Marx.
Not all socialists are even pro-government. Anarchists/libertarian socialists like me are against government, but most (not all) still like it when the government does things that help the common man even though we realize when the government does that they’re just trying to calm outrage. We just believe that if the economy was reorganized based on freely associated worker ownership most of these social programs could and would be voluntarily organized from the bottom up by the workers themselves and a few simply wouldn’t be needed in a socialist society.
Of course we can agree to disagree. We both agree on what’s important, legalizing marijuana!
NO to POT HEADS
YES TO STONERism
Obama is being nothing but a tool, with a monkey on his back telling him what is best for us when that same monkey is what put us in this damn shit hole with money AND marijuana. We need a new woodstock, FUCK acid, heroin, and other bullshit drugs used that day.. we need something that will create a damn bold statement not something that’s gonna make everyone seem like damn druggies. Music has always been there,
whats stopping us now???
Why is everyone so fucken scared to stand up for our rights??
Government Thugs with Guns
Surely sad to see are Federal Government become so blatantly corrupt. Follow the money. Who benefits from the continued prohibition?
It seems that Law Enforcement at all levels has become dependent on the War on Drugs. Have they become the ultimate “thugs with guns” in this so called war on Drugs? Is it institionalized corruption? Turning Guns on thier own people over a weed.
Shame on Obama for allowing this to go on. Obama, the incredibly shrinking president.
It may take a national movement near the magnitude of the civil rights movement to effect change.
Wake up Obama! Wake up Gil Kerlikowske! Wake up Uncle Sam!
Your verbage and behavior toward your own people is hurting, not helping. We already know you wield the guns of law enforcement at every level. Isn’t 20 million arrests enough for you?
we’ll just have to vote that misunderstood president and all of his little buddies out of office
130 LongTime Puffer
O.K. Puffer. The fact is – I was born before penicillin was a wonder drug. I am a native Californian, so I’m right on top of the Kannabis issue. I’m also on Social Security and Medicare. I served my country in the military [ part 2 of the American Dream]. Here’s the deal Puffer. I raised my right hand and swore allegiance to protect my country [ not government] against all enemies foreign and domestic. I personally have lived under a mixture of capitalism and socialism for a long time, but this present government is marxist radical – and – that’s my enemy. If we disagree, then, we agree to disgree.
Fuck Obama, fuck the feds, fuck the drug czar who does nothing but create misery for the Americans that pay his salary, fuck people who support marijuana prohibition and read a fucking book or use the damn internet to get the facts and stop listening to the government’s lies, and most of all, Fuck all you uptight bastards in Washington D.C. because its YOU and not drugs that are destroying this country! Fuck.
Rebel,
Thanks for the background info. You’re to be commended for your service. The draft ended the year I turned 18, so I didn’t have to go to Nam. I was hopped up to go fight the Commies. I hated them with a vengeance; thought they were a cancerous growth on the planet. My brother came home on leave, and talked me outta joining up. I come from a family with a long military history–my mom’s bro was in the Death March; another of her brothers shot down in a B-24. My dad’s dad was gunnery sgt in WWI. My dad, ten years Air Force. So I’m no bed-wetting liberal. I know military history as well as anyone, from Cannae to Lutzen to Stalingrad.
But I also know military folly when I see it. And I also know when the people have been duped into a war.
I also have a keen interest in politics–and IMO–Obama is far from a marxist radical. Heck,he’s very conservative in many ways–he’s proved it with his tax cut this winter, with his pre-oil spill stance on drilling, his surge in Afganistan, and even with his refusal to go after Bush on the war crimes issues.
As you said, it’s obvious we disagree, and can agree to disagree, and I’m very happy that you’ve never shown yourself to be hypocritical on the issue of free speech.
Best wishes, Longtime Puffer
134 Libertarian Sociaist
Please! join LongTime Puffer and I in this dialogue of what [is] and what [isn’t]. Welcome!
Puffer…how about dialogue…is that a better discription than debate?
Guys! Since the dawn of time – Kannabis has been both a medicine and a sacrament. All of a sudden – this Anslinger guy needed to save his “failing” Bureau of Narcotics. Coinsidently – to this day – the “failing part” hasn’t changed, it’s still supported by a “failed prohibition.” So! Harry appeals to include Kannabis [a political pawn] so to get increased funding and save his ass. “Feed the failing monster he cries.”
The fact of the matter is – The cops, the courts, the attornies, the prisons are [all] “profiting.” Not only that – special interests [alcohol, tobacco, pharma, paper, and synthetics] contribute huge amounts of payolla to keep it illegal. How dispicable and horrendous is that? What kind of a human being [a word that sticks in my throat when referring to prohibs] would do such a thing? Certainly not the kind of person I’d care to know – or – acknowledge as one having a conscience.
I believe yesterday’s voting – clearly indicates that my crystal bal is still working. It tells me that “a free society will prevail.” Wait until these prohibs get a whiff of “anti-prohibs voting.” We’ve made medicinal kannabis the #1 issue since before the presidential election – and – we will keep it #1 until we run every jackass out of office – if need be – Republican, Democrat, Progressive, Conservative alike. Anyway – the three of us know the “fraud” behind this prohibition. So! Ya! – we’re on the same page. Kannabis lovers don’t want to hurt other kannabis lovers. Don’t we know that the [solution] to the whole thing is to reschedule kannabis from a schedule I subsatnce to a schedule III substance. That makes it a legal substance STAT. Ya! I was Navy Medic so I can speak from compassion.
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Come this November election, when the People get to vote , we the People will show the legislature that if they want to keep their jobs, they must vote to reschedule Cannabis. If not then, it will be more of the same.
Mr. Obama must know that he is a one term wonder. Just another rich man, who continues the failed policies of the puppet masters. The Hopeful Americans who elected him are very sad, that he is just another back door Politician. My hope is that God sends him a dream, and educates him on the tenets of being a good Human Being.
This is the biggest government cover up in history!
It’s not only rediculous, but it is a known government cover up. Especially when they were doing studies to find all the bad things. They found it was medicinal and destroyed all evidence of many years of research paid by me and you. (The goverment said they “lost” the documents.
Let us all make cigarettes illegal and see if he continutes to smoke.
I take Census’. You would not believe the number of people pissed off at the Obama Admin.after voting for him. That is all they want to talk about and I can’t talk about it with them. I just take the census and leave but in my mindm I just want to scream, ” I know what you mean people, it’s time for the US to take their votes back and get new leadership!” He is giving us more of the same old BS! Next time will be the first time I vote Republican. If Ron Paul runs, I will vote for him.
I am with #128. I’m divorced. I could not get weekend visitations with my son because I smoked a little weed. I never drank alcohol or any other drugs, until…
When the Judge in Texas told me that I had to give up the pot in order to see my kids, I did that.
I am now an addicted alcholic and a cocaine user. But now I can test clean and see my kids and see, this is not right! If I could, I would take back the pot in a heartbeat over everything else, but then I couldn’t see my kids.
I want to see my kids no matter what I have to do and the judge ordered me to stop the pot and I did and see where I have gone since? I have to drink now or I will throw up in the mornings. This is how our judicial system works and you know. Therefore, I am forced to choose a vice that is not my choice that I have become addicted. The alcohol led me to the cocaine so I could sniff it and get sober from the alcohol. So I can honestly say, alcohol was my gateway drug.
LongTime Puffer
Libertarian/Socialist
Rebel without a Cause
What seems to be most relevant here is that each of you have faith in humanity and yourselves. Love thy God, love thy neighbor, love thy self. To me it sounds like you’re all on the same page.
Genesists believe in separation of church and state; a hard thing to do when government intrudes in God’s business, and with all due reaspect, religion insists on recognition in government. What do they say: “Viva la difference.” On the other hand, if the only thing you agree on is God’s gift of Holy Sacrament – then – you agree to agree, assuming secularism doesn’t weigh in.
Consider this:
QUESTION: 1. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
2. Which came first the cannabinoid or the cannabinoid receptor?
ANSWER: It does’nt make any difference; whether by God or by nature, they were meant to be one to each. other.
God bless,
Manford Mantis
Obama was elected into office “ONLY” because he said… He would let the science research see if cannabis would/could benefit America/Americans… B.S, he lied…
56% of Americans want Cannabis to be legal, not to mention all the products that can be made from cannabis… also cannabis is first in line for a cure for cancer… wake up all you anti cannabis people, if you don’t wanna smoke it fine, use cannabis to make metals, fuel, cloth, paper…
Our next president would get 56% voters buy just making cannabis legal and stay in office for a second term by getting the cannabis law passed.
All you California folks, make history by voting YES for Cannabis… If CA don’t get it passed, some other state will…
I helped my daughter do a research paper on Hemp/Cannabis for school…Henry Ford made metal for cars with hemp oil, 10 times stronger than metals made today for autos & 10 times lighter than what companys use today making auto bodys, 100 pot plants only 8 months old make more paper than 30 trees that are 30 years old, 3, 8 foot tall cannabis plants can fill up your cars gas tank compared to 200 pounds of corn it takes to fill up a cars gas tank, fabric made with cannabis last YEARS longer than fabric made with cotton !!! George Washington’s teeth were made with the Cannabis plant… NO ONE has ever died from smoking pot, you cant get addicted, thats more than you can say about cigarettes or liquor…!!! Man, I could go on & on about the benefits of a Cannabis plant, but what it all boils down to is major big companys loosing money if & when cannabis becomes legal…!!! Lets legalize pot and bail-out all these big companys with the taxes made from cannabis & still the US could pocket millions from the taxing of cannabis…
Obama is a hypocrite. Who’d have thunk? I’ve been arrested by SS more than once for smoking a bowl in front of the White House. Government that governs least, governs best.
Rebel,
I agree wholeheartedly on the issue of legalizing MJ. None of the Prexies have had the courage to deal with this issue. I don’t believe any Prexy-wannabes will have the courage in upcoming elections either, anytime soon. Hopefully, MJ won’t be the taboo issue with polticos forever. As others have mentioned on these boards, it’s time we started putting pressure on our Reps and Sens. I’ve called mine a few times on this issue.
It’s bad enough we have these businessmen forcing their drug-testing BS on us. (I’ll bet most of them are alcoholics.) We don’t need the govt pitching in too.
I gave up drinking about 20 years ago–started getting bad headaches from booze of any sort. Most people’s hangovers happen the next day–mine started happening about 10 minutes after I opened the can.
Like a good many other people, I tried many things over the years–particularly when I was younger. MJ is the only thing for me now.
Anyway, take care. May we live to see this carried thru to the end.
Capital F F F Obama bin laden he is an illegal get wheres his birth certificate how could America be so blind to vote that mistake of a human being in anything. He is a waste of space, air, time, he is driving this country down a hole. Its sad please America Impeach this dumbo eared crazy man. And how did he become part of the elite. Him and the rest of the government are hiding alot youtube search John Moore The Liberty Man what the government isnt telling you. Legalize Marijuana search famous marijuana quotes see what George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, plus many others have said about this great gift. Make the most you can of the Indian Hemp seed and sow it everywhere.” – George Washington
I feel president Obama is a hipacrit since he used to smoke in excess and knows the stigma and paranoid feelings behind the scenes.
This country wants to control us through fear and intimidation. The three P’s are petrification, paranoya and paralization. The blue lights cause it the cars marked police or government. Come on we feel it on the road even when we are not moving a dime.
We have to get Marajuana out of the courts Fedrally someday and into the house at the dinner table.
Smoking and not being able to grow is making this country so damn poor as well as the smokers.
Capitol hill only cares about themselves first and there fat wallets Democrat or republican only care about control.
Marajuana should have been Fedrally medically legalized a very long time ago instead of lied about for many years. I wont get into the history of dupont or the big three or even 3m but just know way back this wonderful plant was made illegal for money purposes. I once felt there would have been a great depression food shortage but no way. Most would have smoked the great depression away if you catch my drift.
Enough for now but one more thing yall know how gas is making us poor. Hemp seeds could help bring gas down under a dollar once again especially diesel, check out colorado gas prices. The price of all types of oil could be drastically reduced. What do you do when you cannot smoke a joint but smoke a cigerette. How much is the USA charging now. We are being F)*&^%$ all around by capitol hill and it will never end so get ready to live in a hellish country.
One more thing Obama said he would end the fedral raids and that he used to smoke and seemed he loved it just to be President and win against Mcain and Mrs. Clinton.
Election Manipulation will keep ruining this country till we find a better way to choose the leaders.
I can not take prescribed pain medication, due to ulcers of the stomach. I can not even take tylonol or alleve or even asprin without it causing me to be hunched over in worse pain, vomiting and crying for hours at a time, hence I do not take pain meds. They gave me some suppositorys to use, which can cause worse issues for a person with ibs issues. Hence I do not use unless its so bad that i just have to have some relief. If i had a gun, i would shoot myself to be quite blunt. I am in constant pain, do not sleep good, eat right, can no longer even do house cleaning due to pain. What happened to compassion? Would You do anything to help a family member feel better? Or would You say tough titty lil kitty live with it. Thats how I feel.
Cigarettes KILL a DOC will never prescribe a cigarette yet they are legal Pot is natural its herbal, it does not contain 800 carsenogins like cigaretts. This should have never been illegal- How often do you hear someone was killed by a stone driver- booze does that. Most people smoke at home-while they are relaxing…..I have a lot of pain in my back and chronic insonmia-only pot helps!
Our President LIES!! When he first wished to become our leader he was all for pot. What happened to this thought, plan, desire and words he spoke before taking his oath in office of wanting it to be legal?? Hence my lack of caring wtf he has to say about it anymore, nor my belief in anyone running for any goverment office. They lie to get in and then resend what they once spoke they stood for! SAD OBAMA….
THEN END.
When did marijuana become illegal and why? It use to be legal? Why is it legal in some states- not others? Today I went to the doctor and asked is it dangerous putting this in my lungs (have had breathing issues) they said NO!!!!! No research has said it causes harm to the lungs -they said don’t smke cigarettes it will cause harm.President needs to stick by his original thought and make it legal.