Reporter Mike Riggs at The Daily Caller has an important story online today revealing how U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration officials are making plans to reschedule natural THC under federal law.
Under the plan, THC derived from the marijuana plant would be classified as a Schedule III controlled substance, while the plant itself would remain classified as a Schedule I illegal drug. Sound fishy? It is.
As a DEA spokesperson quoted in the story explains, “THC, natural or synthetic, remains a schedule I controlled substance. Under the proposed rule, in those instances in the future where FDA might approve a generic version of Marinol, that version of the drug will be in the same schedule as the brand name version of the drug, regardless of whether the THC used in the generic version was synthesized by man or derived from the cannabis plant.”
So, in other words, if a pharmaceutical product contains THC extracted from the marijuana plant, that would be a legal commodity. But if you or I possessed THC extracted from the marijuana plant, that an remains illegal commodity.
Wait, it gets even more absurd.
Since the cannabis plant itself will remain illegal under federal law, then from whom precisely could Big Pharma legally obtain their soon-to-be legal THC extracts? There’s only one answer: The federal government’s lone legally licensed marijuana cultivator, The University of Mississippi at Oxford, which already has the licensing agreements with the pharmaceutical industry in hand.
Riggs writes:
In other words, THC in plant form or as an extract, will still be illegal. What won’t be illegal is if a pharmaceutical company buys THC from a government-licensed provider, puts it in a pill, receives the DEA’s stamp of approval, and sells it a price that will likely be far higher than the price of marijuana.
Armentano said such circular reasoning is a product of decades of hostility towards marijuana research.
“This is the insane rationale necessary for banning medical marijuana,” he said. “Take away the prohibition and the political elements, and you would never have the stretching of logic necessary to pass organic THC but only if it mimics Marinol.”
Expect the DEA’s ‘stretching of logic’ to become even more absurd in the future.
You can read the entire Daily Caller story, “Is the DEA legalizing THC?,” here.
so let me get this straight, a man made possably harmful substance is ok, but not the almost harmless plant itself. This has got to b the biggest bs ive ever heard
This article is just another reason why marijuana and other drugs should be legalized. Hypocrite government is never good for We The People.
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It’s a start.
Looks like big pharma sees money-making potential in THC. If this goes through, they’ll make a fortune as long as they corner the market.
How would this affect states that have marijuana decriminalized or that have medical marijuana legal?
Are they stoned?????
This should spark everyone’s attention to how much of a scam the War on (some) Drugs is
this is absolutely rediculous…yet again government shows it true colors and reveals the truth behind why they wont legalize all forms of marijuana..this article and these reasons, using it or putting it in a pill and selling it for a much higher price than the plant/buds go for and keeping the plant its self illegal just proves yet again that THE ONLY REASON ITS ILLEGAL IS BECAUSE OF JERK OFF GOVERNMENT THUGS WHO WANT TO KEEP THE MONEY IN THE RICH POOL THAT ITS IN NOW! if we as a country allow the DEA and pharmicutical companies to continue this sharad of manipulating the people of this country we are only headed in a direction that is doomed for failure!!!!
The solution to this is to either Boycott the products they manufacture or openly express our disapproval of this type of behavior.
How can any federal organization expect public support on something like this after their dedication to the long cold cash-gobbling “War on Drugs”…
This is ABSURDLY HYPOCRITICAL! On one hand they say Cannabis holds “no medicinal value” and punish anyone disobeying the strict laws against using any aspect of the plant, while on the other hand they are secretly setting up pharmaceutical companies with the ability to supply the active ingredients of the Cannabis plant to the public.
This is irrational and extremely disrespectful to the American people. These are not the type of actions that will evoke support of the DEA or FDA on this matter.
This just goes to show you how insanely retarded their entire knowledge base and connection with the American people, really is.
They need to just stop the denial of Human Rights.
When we can stop denying people the basic rights of consumption, as living beings on this planet, only then can we truly begin to make progress.
This is THC_ALLIANCE, I am a tax-paying American and I whole heartedly despise the DEA and everything it represents…
This is pure BS; I guess like hemp this will now be imported from other contries is how they will do it. As usual our Govt. screwing the American people again. If we don’t do something soon to force the Govt. to let us legalize Cannabis they will eventually find a way to stop the Medical Marijuana movement and give it all over to Big Pharma!!!
It’s all about the money. Funny isn’t it?
You watch, somehow the DEA will make money off this. Somehow they will come up with some kind of reason to arrest more medical cannabis patients/growers…
All in the name of BUSINESS…
It’s friggin PATHETIC!
Don’t let these knuckleheads fool you for one second. They don’t give a damn about anyones health or well being. They just want to keep the money flowing through their computers.
One more example of big PharmaPillPushers getting preferential treatment.. Big Money = do what you want..
As if we needed any further proof that the DEA’s intentions are for the good of our Country or it’s peoples! They don’t seem to care who gets hurt as long as they get to keep their jobs and their huge cash flow (via our tax dollars). I HATE THEM!!!
This is the most corrupt and ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.
This is the definition of hypocrisy.
wtf
This is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard. First Obama laughs in our face when asked about legality, and now they are producing a type of marijuana in a pill form and its legal for them? What the hell happened to this country and government being about what the people want. Extracting THC and saying thats ok as long as the prescription scumbags manufacture it and sell it, but the plant that contains the thc is still illegal. Thats like saying water is illegal but extracting the H2o and putting that in a gell tab and saying thats legal. I really think sooner or later “egypt” is going to happen here and let me tell you im f*($&in down !
it is my honest opinion that the only people that want marijuana legalized and pot heads and they’re are giving reasons like people need it for medical reasons even tho threir only real reason for it to be legalized is so they can smoke weed in public to shove it in the face of police officers, there is absolutely no benifitial value to weed whatsoever, if weed would ever be treated like cigarettes like pot heads want car accidents would quadruple,no work would get done anywhere and if any extra money was made off of it, it would be balanced out by the millions of lawsuits when people get killed by someone driving high, also the national obesity rate would skyrocket due to the obvios side effects that go along with marijuana use, the entire idea of legalizing marijuana is hippies trying to final win a battle against “the man” thankfully they remain winless.
wow, govt is dirty. why cant the whole country riot? like a peace protest or something this way they see the significance.
Once they change it, it can be challenged in court. They’ll stretch it out as long as they can with appeals, but will lose, eventually.
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So far things are going as planned, Bilderberger style. Democracy of the western sort in the Middle East should also bring with it an easing up on of the penalties for cannabis, and put the new parliamentary democracies in a position to profit from commerce in and taxes on legal cannabis, once the U.S. is ready to legalize and control the worldwide trading of cannabis products in dollars on commodity and stock exchanges.
It’s coming.
Why not just classify the “bud” as a vegitable?
So, let’s review:
If the DEA (or other governmental organization) can make money off it, it’s legal.
If ANYBODY else can make money off it, it’s illegal.
If the DEA (or other governmental organization) sells it for medical use, it is a valid, legal medicine.
If ANYBODY else uses it for medical purposes, it has no valid, legal medical use.
Does that about cover it?
GOD BLESS THE DEA, FOR THEY ARE MY SWORN ENEMY. I PRAY TO YHWH THAT THEY WILL ONE DAY PULL THEIR HEADS OUTTA THEIR ASSHOLE AND SEE THE LIGHT! LET THE TRUTH BE KNOWN!
paul is there nothing we the pepole can do to stop this insanity?
Insert the theme to the Twilight Zone here……Dededededede.
wake up ppl. the american government is quickly becoming more and more fascist. the government is obsessed with punishing its people. profits are made by putting people in prison. and of course, they control the media and keep the people ignorant: just what they need. THEY are in control. this is no longer OUR america. but it’s about time we take it back
Toke like an Egyptian!
I wannna pull my hair out! ARgh!
Lawsuit fodder?
12. THC ALLIANCE “It’s all about the money. Funny, isn’t it?”
You bet, it’s all about the money — the money that Big Pharma makes from naturally derived generic Marinol. Even more so is the even vaster sums of money that Big Pharma stands to lose on their witches brews of patent poisons — their chemotherapy drugs and their compounds of synthetic amphetamines & opiates, which would compete directly with a legalized medical cannabis product line that anyone could grow in their gardens.
But between Federal funding for the War on Drugs derived from the long-abused taxpayer, and tyrannical asset forfeiture statutes both criminal and civil, the DEA doesn’t need Big Pharma’s deep pockets. But our bought-and-paid-for politicians do — both GW Bush’s “Medicare Part D” and BH Obama’s “ObamaCare” have been written by the Big Pharma lobbyists for the benefit of Big Pharma, not the American people. Most of both the Democratic and Republican Parties are prohibitionists, just as most are corporatists, just as most are fascists — look no further than the domestic war on terror waged against the US Constitution and the American people. The War on Drugs and War on Terror merged nearly 10 years ago.
Let’s not forget that there is still at least one patient receiving medical marijuana cigarettes from the Federal DEA, since the 1980’s. Or that the Veterans Administration has approved their patients’ use of Medical Marijuana in States where MMJ is legal. Nor that the Federal government themselves have held a USA Patent (#6630507) for the medical application of cannabis, since 2003. Or the results of 2 government-funded scientific studies, the La Guardia Commission Report and the Shafer Commission Report, which both completely contradicted the established Federal prohibition and persecution of cannabis — both shelved and ignored.
The longer that the Federal government continues to press their completely unjustified and immoral War on People (War on Drugs & War on Terror) while trying to placate the favored crony commercial special interests that directly benefit from Both these “Wars”, the more twisted-like-a-pretzel their logic becomes, for all to see that would open their eyes. “Be afraid. Give up your rights!” That is funny, in a very tragic sense.
Sic semper tyrannis
It just goes to show you (theres thangs goin’ on, you don’t know)!
Every time I read about the DEA it just gets more and more unbelievable – they were created out of the LIES told on the floors of our very own congress in the 1930’s – Marijuana prohibition should be repealed at the SUPREME COURT LEVEL due to the publicly acknowledged lies that were instituted in order to originally get Prohibition on the books – it was GOVERNMENT DISCRIMINATION against NON WHITES and it’s been going on way too long – there are several legal avenues to use for this to happen – FIRST AND FOREMOST is in our constitution, THE RIGHT TO THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS – which is been taken away from all citizens by a sh*tpile of lies … It (Marijuana) is a weed, it was growing here before Columbus arrived… (another lie, but also another story….) it will still be growing here after we’re gone… unless the fed poisons every weed, good, bad, and in between in an attempt to eradicate it – which isn’t going to happen… this country was founded and based upon “FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE” … and this country has lost that concept and turned it over to big money, corporate corruption and so on – it’s time to take back our freedom(s) put these crooked politicians out of office, first statewide, then nationally… send them all packing… MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS HERE TO STAY, AND WE CAN’T LET THEM TAKE IT AWAY… they can keep the pills, THC is only one of the many many compounds found in Marijuana that are beneficial – MARINOL is a joke… it’s not good for treating 99% of the conditions that can be treated by the plant itself – then you have the countless strains, each with their own potentials… some may help anxiety, while other may induce it – it’s a complex organic medicinal wonder plant and they don’t get it,and never will – producing Marinol WILL NOT AFFECT MEDICAL MARIJUANA LAWS – it’s just a pill for the rich people to pop that aint worth a squirt of p*ss in my book… let them have it, once they schedule III the THC that way, it opens the floodgate for the other compounds to be taken off schedule I as well – IT’S ONE LIE AFTER ANOTHER with our government… NO END IN SIGHT EITHER… if they want to make the money, legalize it, tax it… get on with it and move on to other issues… Mr Obama…Change We Can Believe In? WHERE, WHEN… Please… you won’t last another term if this is your message to THE PEOPLE that elected you… you simply won’t – ORGANIZE, VOTE, AND CHANGE WE CAN ALL BELIEVE IN! That’s the message… and that’s the TRUTH!
And there’s the approriate length of the rope. If this goes through, they will be admitting that THC has medical value, something they have vohemantly denied up until now. They have there own approved growers for the plant, which they will now use for medicine. I say let them do it. Once big pharma is using pure THC for all kinds of medicine approved by FDA, DEA, and all other agencies, they will have no choice but to reschedule it. If not from this, then from some other use they will have for it soon. They’ve got enough slack in the rope – let them hang themselves with it.
Schedule I means no medicinal value,, so ….. Herein lies the quandary my friends…….how it remain schedule one if they are using the chemical, real or synthetic, for Medicinal products.
Unless the DEA can inquire as to which specific schedule III substances a pharmacy will be holding, this is essentially legalization of medical cannabinoid pills. Look, grow the Cannabis in a medi state and process the goods there. Donate that product to a pharmacy and the pharmacy donates to the producer. If you are worried about federal intervention of the actual Cannabis farm, shuffle the refined products and mix them up before moving them to a pharmacy. The feds will no longer be interfering with Cannabis production withing state law. Here in the state of Oregon, there is no differentiation of hash oil to flower in the medi law. So plants are legal and processing is legal. I believe that 1oz flower is considered legally the same is 1oz hash. As long as the producer is within the possession limits and keeps transactions titled as donations, then I don’t see how the authorities could do much but be a speed bump. Challenging this would be a challenge to the rule itself. The Feds cannot have a reasonably maintain a double standard like this for long.
It really bothers me I can’t stand to look at or hear Obama. When he laughed at the mj question was he laughing at the suffering of the 35 children a day in the US that are diagnosed with cancer. Does he think it’s funny that people will suffer before they die.
As I just wrote my senators Hemp laws are treason against the Republic making free enterprise illegal. Hemp laws are the corner stone of control of the economy.
Hmmm. this is interesting, but mark my words, if this happens they will create something that will contain THC, and someone WILL end up dying from it. As a result of some human tampered THC product anti-marijuana prohibitionist will have deaths to point their fingers at. Unfortunate, but that being said how does on the job drug testing for THC work if it’s classification changes. I doubt they could tell if it got there by smoking or a pill?!
If this isn’t proof positive just how corrupt they are,I don’t know what is! It’s time to take them down!
This is really dangerous to the legalization movement. If big pharma can get their hands on THC they’ll fight to maintain their monopoly and keep marijuana illegal.
Holy Smokes. This smells like Tyranny and Corruption from the highest floors. The DEA and their blind ambition is trouncing our rights. Our rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I think I will go get happy. My body, my property. Keep your hands off.
The Rev.sLeezy
Relax, it’s ok.
They will become so obvious that it will implode in time.
Meanwhile, tend and breed, and scatter seed.
Just keep calm and carry on. 😉
They have so much power. Do we even stand a chance? They can do what ever they want. Who can stop them? Sometimes it just seems so hopeless.
Once again, the prohib’s logic completely evades and amazes me, to the point of semi-insanity. What they’re saying again is – “You can have the orange juice -but – you can’t touch the orange. Only our pharmaceutical friends can do that. “EVIL, EVIL, EVIL. Genesists – we can’t allow this to happen any longer. We can’t allow big pharma to monopolize it.
Although – if Health and Human Services – FDA re-schedules it in schedule III, it becomes immediately federally legal, not only for medical use – but – allows federal funds for research as well – per the Controlled Substance Act. Perhaps we shouldn’t rush to judgment. On second thought – it’s time to unite behind:
1 to 3
SHIT OR
GET OFF
THE POT.
That’s a T-shirt for sure – and – a movement as well.
The Daily Caller was founded by journalist and fox political pundit Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney. It is not known for being a fan of government.
And to that point, Hawai’i right now is considering legalizing up to an ounce for personal use. And they just dumped almost all the state republicans in 2010. Democrats are the only party you are going to get to legalize anything because they Are Good Government in general. They are For The People for the most part while Republicans are by nature pro-corporation and that means Big Pharma.
In Montana, The state House of Representatives has approved a measure to repeal the state’s Medical Marijuana Act with a vote of 63 to 37. The vote serves as an ironic counterpoint to the overwhelming 62 percent to 38 percent majority by which Montanans legalized medical marijuana less than seven years ago, in November 2004. They are Republican. Obviously, going against the will of the people.
Toke on that!
The more complicated they try to make things, the more we should demand this simple definition of marijuana:
16. “The term ‘marijuana’ means all parts
of the smoke produced by the combustion
of the plant Cannabis sativa L.”
What a scam!
Sounds more like organized crime.
I’M CONFIDENT THAT SOMEONE IN GOVERNMENT IS MONITORING THESE POSTS. SO! PROHIBS – GET AN EYE AND EAR FULL OF THIS.
We, the Genesist brethren’s agenda, is to seek out that which is lost – to reform [re-generate]. There is no cause but victory. Who has eyes to see – who has ears to hear – who lives it? The pillars of trust too soon crumble into dust of deceit when good people do nothing – when evil rolls the dice. All of our Genesist brethren aspire to support our Faith, and act against evil [prohibitionists]. You prohibs can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time. Americans are not fools, and we’re not going to be treated like fools at the hands of you prohibitionists anymore. We are ready to plant our flag, and fall on our sword. We the Genesist brethren look to God and reason. We are no longer “willing” to count the minutes until our Sacrament is returned to us.
Prohibs – it’s time to come clean! You have perpetrated this deception long enough. Enough is enough! It’s time to come clean. We the Genesist people – no longer care what your motives are. Good or bad – it’s time to give up your despicable mendacious fraud. The point is this – it’s time to come clean. Prove that it is what you say it is, or surrender to the truth – if you’re familiar enough with the truth to recognize it.
Manny
San Diego, Ca. Colony
Here goes the government again telling us there is no such thing as medical marijuana and then pretty much patenting it. Thanks again the great, rational, logical US Gov’t. BC here I come!
“How would this affect states that have marijuana decriminalized or that have medical marijuana legal?”
If mainstream medicine had a ‘medical marijuana’ product that could easily fill in the gaps in the eyes of the public, then there would be little need for ‘crude’ medical marijuana buds to be sold at the neighborhood dispensary. The success of medical cannabis today plays largely on the fact that mainstream medicine does not have anything to compete with it.
Here is the competition. But instead of free market, we get it shoved down our throats by crafty laws that benefit, not the health of the American people, but rather the pocketbooks of an irrational few.
Umm… @ #1 THC is not a man-made substance – it is in the cannabis plant. So no, you did not get that straight. Marinol is synthetic. The point to understand with this issue is that the DEA and BigPharma are getting together to make THC legal basically only if it is in the hands of BigPharma companies and products by getting the illegal cannabis extract from the feds – because for some reason the feds can violate their own laws. So cannabis plant is illegal – except for the feds, and the THC the feds get from the cannabis plant is illegal – except when the feds let BigPharma buy it.
But to me, they are just shooting themselves in the foot. This just means that the feds/DEA are admitting cannabis has medicinal value(because THC is a part of the cannabis plant – DUH!), and that they want to be the only ones with access to it and regulation of it. Once all the states politicians realize what is going on, their tune will change and they will suddenly be for legalization so states can make the money and not just the feds. The plant itself will need to be re-classified, because the synthetic stuff does not cut it.
The only thing i can say about this is it truly is sad. I hope this coming election season at least one state some how passes full legalization or before we know it prohibitionist will be using the excuse we have medical THC we dont need the plant. The we are back to its bad because they say so /sigh.
Take note of whats going on in Egypt. It is long past time we took to the streets to get our country back!
an article citing an article with no references written on the internet is commented on by fifty-five people up at arms. no one knows the exact truth. fifty-five plus people view the situation indignantly, yet no one questions the origins or lack of references for the source material.
perhaps this question is rhetorical, however, does repeated exposure to THC effect critical thinking skills? or do the people who question the authenticity of these claims know better than i and leave the scene without questions? will i ever come back to this site to see you comments? time? what is time?
[Paul Armentano responds: The DEA publicly announced their plans in the Federal Register in November:
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2010/pdf/2010-27502.pdf
“SUMMARY: This proposed rule is issued by the Deputy Administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) to modify the listing of the Marinol® formulation in schedule III so that certain generic drug products are also included in that listing. … This proposed action expands the schedule III listing to include formulations having naturally-derived dronabinol and products encapsulated in hard gelatin capsules. This would have the effect of transferring the FDA- approved versions of such generic Marinol® products from schedule I to schedule III.”
The public comment period on this proposal ended on January 3.
Four separate companies have requested DEA make this change.
During the Craker v DEA hearings, it was testified to the fact that that the government’s pot farm at UMISS had licensing agreements with Mallinckrodt Baker to provide extracted plant THC for the purpose of a generic ‘Marinol’ product. I was there, and reported on the testimony at that time.
The Daily Caller story is fact, not fiction.
Any other questions?]
Never mind how many deaths are caused by alcohol, tobacco, or even caffeine every year; we the government must ensure that the people of our country stay as dumb and clueless as possible. If they begin thinking for themselves, it could pose a threat for a seat in government. Well, how do we stop the people for thinking for themselves? Outlaw marijuana of course. But leave the others legal, because they kill people.
One word “Money or Power” you pick.
If the government thinks they can hold a plant hostage, from the American people that has been proven for medical abilities to help people with a wide range of health problems. Then sell it at the top dollar for their own gain, they will soon learn people will revolt and another war will begin “The Green War” it’s just a matter of time.
DEA: Keep treating us like we’re stupid and don’t know whats going on, and we’ll keep fighting to legalize a natural plant that can potentially cure and/or treat various forms of cancer. Let’s see who wins.
It’s very common for substances to be illegal for the man in the street, but legal for prescribed medical purposes.
Examples include morphine, heroin (prescribed under the name “diamorphine”), methadone, amphetamine, GHB, MDMA, Ketamine and anabolic steroids.
Regardless what people think of total legalization, we should be glad that they’re not ignoring medical benefits for the sake of maintaining an unrelated recreational drug policy.
This is the same BS as all the new medical marijuana bills on the east coast as the state can only supply cannabis to the medical community. It’s all about the money. Will the Feds bust the State dispensaries as they are not following federal regulations and will be growing plants? I don’t think so. The US can only make money on its citizens as the free fall continues. It’s time all the heads got together and took this shit to Washington like the Egyptians, but only Washington, not like the little BS global marijuana marches in all the little podunk towns, which makes the cause look so weak. But will anyone go? I don’t think so. That is how much control they have over this community and YOU!!!
We the people need to stand in revolt to this proposal. Its hypocritical and insane. This is a god given herb for christs sake. REVOLUTION—-> FREE THE WEED, CANNAPEACE
this is what happens when you put a lie on top of a lie. JUST START TELLING THE TRUTH – 9 other countrys, 3 of them are americas greatest allie, say it does have medical value. Thousands of sick Americans say it does have medical value, The Fedral U.S. govt says No it does not have medical value. cannabis is not a health issue as much as a credibility issue. We as Americans have a govt that is not telling us the truth, and we jail our citezens over it. We as Americans are a inch better than NAZI germany. Lets get better & start telling the truth on everything
Okay DEA, take your compounds and your $ynthetic crap but the plant belongs to us, the people.
PEOPLE !!!! were talking about the illegal law on pot it self, WE need to start there ,make the GOV. tell the truth about why its illegal, OTHER then a LIE, STAY focused on the point. Free all pot prisoners and let them work and TAX them not supporting them locked up in jail. attack the illegal law it self, stop saying make it legal!!!!!! its the other way around THEY need to come up with facts not LIES to make it illegal
The government is doing illegal things to an illegal plant. Under Federal Law the University of Mississippi is the only place that can grow marijuana, this is a monopoly. If University of Mississippi makes contracts with Big Pharma they control the entire market, for the Federal Government not to break the law they need to either
1. Legalize Marijuana to prevent the Monopoly
2. Make it illegal for University of Mississippi to harvest.
LET’S BE LOGICAL.
QUESTION: If the whole plant natural cannabinoid extract THC is moved to schedule III – and becomes immediately federally legal [which it already is] – who stands to be the biggest loser?
ANSWER: The pharmaceutical companies.
QUESTION: What will be the effect on medicine?
ANSWER: As a federally legal drug – doctors will be able to write a prescription instead of a recommendation.
QUESTION: Where would we get the prescription filled?
ANSWER: At the pharmacy, where it would be controlled under pharmaceutical laws.
QUESTION: What’s the logical advantage:
ANSWER: Far better for pharmacy to pay taxes on its profits, than pay-offs to keep it illegal.
QUESTION: Has the DEA [or any other governmental body] ever given a fraction of an inch on its use – and why now?
ANSWER: No on its use – in fact – no to the point of violence and tyranny. Now – because pharmacy is threatened by legalization of cannabis. A great percentage of their products will be useless.
QUESTION: What’s the conclusion?
ANSWER/QUESTION: Talk about conspiracy – just how obvious is it? – who controls the government, makes the rules, and “muscles in” on natures business and our Constitutional rights? Think about it – pharmacy will finally have a product with real medicinal efficacy and no adverse side effects. Won’t that be a pleasure – to see cannabis advertised on T.V.- before your doctor prescribes it – [which is another demonstration of pharmacies immense power]?
Recommendation: It’s time to take them down. Expose them for the evil that they are, and put the “bad genie” back in the bottle.
wow this is rl a shame you know we all sit here behind a computer and shout to the world what we want to happen when was the last time we ever held a protest to show the govrnment we want change come on people actions speak louder than words rather than bitch on NORML lets get up and do somethign about it and now is the time to start because now we want change.
Most of you posters should think about this. THC will be rescheduled to #3. That is a good thing. If enough people use medical THC it will become much more common and they will never be able to stop people from using THC as medicine. I know marijuana should not be illegal. I know pharmeceutical companies will profit unjustly. When enough people realize that marijuana has medical uses and they are not criminals …attitudes will change. Marijuana laws will change it’s only a matter of time. This is only one battle in the effort to change the laws. Schedule 3 for THC is a good thing. It recognizes the obvious. Marijuana. The only thing bad about marijuana is the law. Change the law! ….To the poster that thinks more people will drive while high …look out for the damn alcoholics they are the ones that are going to kill you. Most people smoke a joint at home after work to relax. Then they watch TV and eat a snack. They might even listen to music or get on the internet. Marijuana is illegal because of big money interests and prejudice.
I am a major supporter of Norml, but we need to understand that this is a step in the right direction. For the people who need THC for medicine, this is a big deal. Also, with the DEA stating the chief chemical in cannabis is being rescheduled to a controlled substance, its only a matter of time before medicinal marijuana is more widely accepted. Change can not come over night. We need to take the good with the bad.
[Paul Armentano responds: I agree with you that any regulatory move by the DEA that could have the effect of facilitating greater research and development of natural cannabis-based medicines is a step in the right direction. But the political and semantic tightrope the DEA is attempting to navigate in order to do so while at the same time maintaining criminal prohibition over the natural plant (and its consumers) is untenable.]
Has anyone yet to give a valid example of how thc is dangerous???????????????? Why is it esier to O.D. on water, and there is no regulations on that???
I am a full blooded American through and through, but if you treat me like a terrorist, I will act as so…”In any civilized society, it is every citizen’s responsibility to obey just laws. But at the same time, it is every citizen’s responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” – Martin Luther King Jr.
This plant was consumed long before our country was founded, and will continue to be consumed long after its demise..
wait, wait, I thought of one negative aspect of MJ…It’s a gateway drug right?! YES!! Because in fifth grade our D.A.R.E. instructor told us Marijuana, Crack, Meth, and Heroin are all vary poisonious drugs…class 1 narcotics…well after someone smokes a joint and realizes they didn’t go raping someone…They realize, “hey ive been lied to, ill try those other ones they told me about”…next thing you know they are shooting up heroin in the highschool bathroom…
Im only 28 but I learned at a young age, one lie, needs a bigger lie to survive…
The truth shall set us free!!!!!!!!!!!!
Government = $$$$
So, how is this going to effect my closet grow? I’m pretty sure the government is going to do what ever the hell they want! I love these reports on NORML that stirs shit up and pisses everyone off. I also can’t wait to hear about crooks breaking in to pharmacies just to get their hands on pot in pill form! The comments that mention “Egypt” and “Revolution” make me laugh pretty hard. Really? Will government listen if we all gathered on Capital Hill smoking pot, demanding that pot be legalized? Don’t think so. We’ll be laughed at! The government WILL NEVER LISTEN!!! Just get use to it.
in my estimation, and after several years of academic research and writing, i’m confident in saying this is the overarching reason cannabis has been illegal since 1937…once upon a time most of the major pharmaceutical companies made cannabis medicines…but the medicines were unstable and more difficult to make given that cannabis loses its potency over time and because it is not water soluble…now, nearly 75 years later and after the medical cannabis community has done much of the research, the pharma industry is poised to swoop in and take over…sadly, i predict it will eventually be treated like opium…the drugs are legal (vicoden, tylenol #3, etc) but the plant isn’t, i mean its not as if anyone is growing their own…
Awesome! I love it! This is probably one of the best things the Marijuana Legalization Movement could hope for! As it stands now about 70% of the U.S. supports Medical Marijuana despite the DEA claiming Cannabis has No Medical Value. Apparently the DEA thinks they can drop that number by now saying “Cannabis has no medical benefits, unless you buy it from us.” Tea Party Supporters will oppose this, Libertarians will oppose this, democrats will mostly oppose this, the only people that would support it are the drug war prohibitionists. If this passed as law it could only help the cause of Full Legalization of Cannabis. Imagine this being taken to court, can anyone say multiple constitutional violations? This is also the same outdated mindset we continue to see from politicians. They still have not grasped the power and influence of the internet, people are not as ignorant or gullible as they used to be. This is a good sign they are getting even more desperate regarding the topic of Cannabis for Medical use. Thank you DEA!
waiting for change, the answer to youre quetion will the govt. listen if we gather at the capital and smoke is no they will not. weve been doing that as long as i can remember on the 4th of july every year. im from the d.c. area. It makes no diffrance
Hey #20 Nate you are a tool. Weed has medicinal value, and the pot heads are smoking now anyway, and do work and live their lives. All your comments are just fallacies, look up what that means. You are making predictions based on your own biases. People smoke pot now, and none of the things you say happen with regularity. You are a fool, probably some dumb cop that has a brain that is too small to think for itself.
To everyone – The government is not the only problem, its people like comment #20 as well.
i dont get it doesnt make sense to make marijuana illegal except just the bud if you extract from the plant its the same thing the only reason is the plant itself can make so make products even though so many products are already made anyway you can on amazon order hemp protentien, lotion, soap, and so much other shit
and for spice its the same thing at least now they can spray the incense with thc chemcials that is extracted but regardless anyway its a win/win situation anyway for both sides
DEA=GESTAPO
The End.
Holy Smokes. Slightly off topic.
Alcohol causes nearly 4 percent of deaths worldwide according to WHO
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/11/us-alcohol-idUSTRE71A2FM20110211
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The whole plant material [the plant] is legal to Qualified Patients in Compassionate Use States. Qualified Patients can grow it, touch it, and smoke it. So! its a matter of state sovereignty over the Federal Supremacy Clause.
Its not just the THC that makes MMJ the beneficial “drug” that it is. They need to take the cannabinoids into consideration. The combo of the CBD’s and CBN’s along with the THC are what comprise the medical benefits of Marijuana…hence the reason their beloved Marinol doesnt work like they want.
I love how they made Dronabinol as a Schedule 3 drug. By definition it would need to be more physically and psychologically addicting than benzodiazepines and long-acting barbiturates (all Schedule 4 drugs), which of course it’s not. Another reason it’s ridiculous is that there is no demand whatsoever for Dronabinol on the streets. Why? Because it’s not as effective as smoked marijuana medicinally or as an intoxicant, plus it has a far longer onset of action. Synthetic THC will quietly creep down the schedules as other drugs have in the past (like loperamide, which is now the over-the-counter drug Imodium). And as it does, people will begin to see that its level of potential harm, relative to pharmaceuticals commonly prescribed by their doctors, is extremely low.
this is great-now we can partake of the illegal stuff while procuring a script for the legal stuff and blow through the mans worthless drug tests.oh gee, got it in my system…got a script for that. plus,nate,your arguement is without merit. pot generally doesnt cause car accidents. lazy, fat slob is a stereotype. had a job for 30 plus years. top producer-top yeilds. rarely miss work. never impaired driving or working. shove your lies. promotes peace and relaxation to get through this stressful life. god bless all.
The federal government has historically clearly been deceptive and dishonest regarding the public-policy issue of marijuana. Their true motives are ill-gained profit and power, against the will and at the expense of the tax-paying populace. As the Lord is my holy witness and in the name of Jesus Christ, I admonish the demons driving the misguided Prohibitionists’ actions back into the depths of darkness from which they have slithered.
Ronald Reagan was too liberal when he said “sometimes government is the problem”. I would say government is “always” the problem. This case regarding marijuana is just another example of that truth. The Republican Party was created to end slavery, and it is slavery for government to hold a person’s hand by telling them exactly how to live from cradle to grave. We the people have the ability to make our own decisions and live with the consequences, which are usually not as bad as when government decides for you as a slave master.
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Fuck the DEA, fuck big Pharma. Im sick of their hypocrasy, sick of their empire rule. I will not buy cannabis from government or pharm just so they can profit off of me.
What is needed here in the US is some Egyptian treatment of our government. No more arguing. no more ‘legislating’. Stop the hypocrasy,corruption ,lying. No more spending our childrens future away for empire, no more taxing the people into poverty, no more profiting from our suffering.
Egypt has proven the power of the people is great indeed.
#76 , you go ahead and lay down , be a good slave to this EMPIRE. The rest of us will just walk over you. This isnt just about pot ….its about ending tyrannical rule of government around the world.
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When you extract THC from the whole plant material, you’re left with hemp. Hemp, in any form, is legal, so let’s put hemp aside. “It’s legal!” – and – is the most complete nutritious food known to man. “Manna – Food from God.”
THC is as federally legal as any drug [case in point – Merinol], chemical THC, sesame oil, in a gel capsule.
Two legals, does not an illegal make. So! We demand that government explain their logic – because – it evades understanding and there’s not an ounce of even reasonable logic here – it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. “IT’S SENSELESS AND MINDLESS.” What does make sense is the Controlled Substance Act [If cannabis has current medical use or efficacy, and a low potential for abuse, “it must” be removed from schedule I]. That’s federal law. If government is attempting to change the Controlled Substance Act, which wouldn’t surprise us in the least, let them now speak, or for ever more stick their head in the toilet, and flush it. Flush that fecal matter in their brain down the drain.
Here is some logic that does make sense. Their [Big Pharma] synthetic doesn’t work. It can’t be synthesized. That’s God’s non-competition clause. Because Big Pharma is too greedy to give up or get out of the emerging cannabis market – they muscle their way in and kick everyone else out. Because they do this with the help of government – makes it the most corrupt coup ever witnessed in America. Even greater than 1937 & 1974, and that’s saying something.
The question is – “What are We the People going to do about it?” It’s up to us. The Robber Barons and Carpet Baggers are our enemies – and – they have guns that are pointed directly at us – bang! bang! The answer is – forthcoming.
Genesis – San Diego, Ca. Colony
#89 Nick I hear you. I agree with what you are saying except for one thing. Pot isn’t toxic, therefore we’re not intoxicated by it nor can we be. Half the human brain is made up with cannibinoid receptors. I hear you and agree with you on all other points.
#95 – If you really want to make change, and get things moving on hemp and marijuana, then how about a boycott?? Only use recycled paper, and natural hemp products (if you can find it) for things like tiolet paper.
Trying protests here like those in the middle east won’t work. At least not now, or in the same way. They all had a common cause and suffered a hell of alot more oppression than we do – at least it appears that way. I agree that big government is all over the world, and it is tyrannical. However, like I said, there is no common cause for people to go to the streets over in the U.S. Marijuana certainly would not draw enough people to make change. People have too much to lose here to protest in the streets for days or weeks…maybe if the un-employment rate gets bad enough the people here will fall under the anti-government cause together. Remember, egypt had to be basically shut-down for weeks and protesters went with little food and water, and many were beaten. Demographics in eqypt are different – big portion of population of 16-30 year old males. Not here though, and thats the age group and gender that made up the bulk of the protests – and that would be who would make up protests of that nature here as well.
What next? Will the government make the tobacco plant illegal, while keeping the nicotine patch legal? Same illogical logic.
#20/@ Nate:Now that your LE job is over if I was you I’d look into MMJ. It’s really a nice way to retire having a garden and good weed to chill on. Nate, don’t fucking knock it until you give it a ride. It doesn’t rot your liver like booze and if you don’t like smoke you can vape it. There is no hangover and BTW I lost 35 lb. after I got my card! I really think someone has told you some lies along the way. Before you bash something please try and learn about it. This is why we are not going away. Nate, you and the rest of the American people have been scammed. Wake up!
ok thats the last straw stand up speak out
There are literally hundreds of plants growing in the US that contain schedule 1 substances, but are not illegal. One only breaks the law when one tries to extract or concentrate the active ingredients…
This seems to be the complete opposite case?
Extracting the active ingredients would be legal (if you’re big pharma) but growing the plant would be illegal?
WTF?
So if the therapeutic power of DMT was discovered by big pharma would the DEA try to exterminate/regulate all the reeds, grasses, trees, and animals (including ourselves) that contain said substance?
@95 When the people kicked the rotting hung corpse of Mussolini in the public square, it gave closure.
Now it has come time for Hillary to hang, George Bush.
“Take note of whats going on in Egypt. It is long past time we took to the streets to get our country back!”
YES we need to make this a BIG deal and MARCH! Stand UP for our rights!!
BUT yes it is a STEP i the right direction. This is almost mirroring the end of alcohol prohibition.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
NORML needs to organize bus trips from every state to Washington D.C so we can MARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE!
A PLANT FOR THE HEALING OF ALL NATIONS!
LET US MARCH
This f….. state of affair should be resolved like they do in Egypt.People wake up,fight for your rights, tell your politicians and the DEA that youre sick and tired of this stupididy
LET’S PLAY BALL!
STRIKE ONE: Cannabis is a non-addictive, non-toxic herb that grows out of the ground naturally. The only thing it’s a gateway to is CDXX Communion with God.
STRIKE TWO: To be clear about this, Genesists totally disregard the fact that government has any control over it at all – especially with a Czar. We view the law as an unjust law, created by political influence, and constructive fraud.
STRIKE THREE: It is our religious belief that God has given us this “Green Herb” as a Holy Sacrament.
YOU’RE OUT! GAME OVER!
While were all waiting, start germinating.
HOW ABOUT A – “420 INVASION” – ON APRIL 20, 2011.
What if – ??? – “every” – peace loving American patriot of our Constitution and beloved country gathered as a Dharna [on the steps, or at the door, of their local representative – from city government to federal government],especially enlisting those who have not been active but want to be active,in “support” of our Constitutional, civil, and individual rights, and in protest of government’s violation of same. We can’t fit 70+ percent of We the People in one place – but – we can scatter them from sea to shinning sea and everywhere in between – “AT THE SAME EXACT TIME.” – and – we can do it “RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.” without traveling a million miles, and spending a million bucks to participate.
THE POINT IS THIS.
“We can” – plaster the country with the same effect – if not a greater effect – than plastering Washington D.C. – and – all prohibitionists would feel our impact at once – “AT THE EXACT SAME TIME” – whether there be only one “I the People – representing all the people,” or they would need crowd control. No doubt – this national invasion would be covered by every form of media.
THERE’S NOTHING TO ORGANIZE – JUST GO!
Everyone has wanted a physical – “peaceful” – presence to make our point. Well! Here’s our chance. Here’s our chance to put our money where our mouth is – to put up or shut up. Our chance to spend one day of the rest of our lives to protect our rights. “Everyone is the protector of their own rights!”
04.20.11 @4:20 p.m. “Be there or be square!”
@thewalrus
its a start? lol start to what? clearly they see marijuana as a threat that they will not accept so they want people to think that they are caring for the people who need marijuana but in fact what theyre really doing is trying to get rid of the cannabis plant itself
I’m with 113.Brethren of the Genesist Faith. We have to take what we know from the internet community and let it be known to everyone. The government is nothing but corrupt in my opinion. If the people come out against the unjust laws of our land, we have a chance.
The prohibitionist ideology is in complete violation of free choice. The bigger Picture here is that we have a whole slew of different evil people in power – and guess what- they know exactly how they benefit from the unjust laws that are in place as I write this.
Here is another problem we have to recognize. People know it is their right to do what they wish with their own bodys if it is not in conflict with another persons own liberty of life. Prohibitionist say drugs ruin families and lives of people- but that is a cover up for the law- as you all know, that is no reason to put people in jail and ruin people lives in another way.
I feel there is almost no harm associated with marijuana use, and users should not be condemned for it. Freedom of choice is what I am fighting for.
I’m sick of the bureaucratic government, I’m sick of the DEA and there power to do what is truly unjust to the People.
This might be taking a big step, but I will come out and say that these laws are a part of a conspiracy against free will- we HAVE to recognize that, we have to let it be known that our rights are being violated. It is absolutely horrible there are so many people in jail for drugs- yet pharmaceuticals flourish in our society of now, now, I want it now. And you know, this wouldn’t be such a big deal to me if the rulers of this land didn’t MAKE IT such a big deal. Half of the people are incarcerated for drugs, THAT my friends- is a BIG DEAL.
I love my country, but I hate my government. Government is evil and greedy. Society is corrupt.
last I heard monopolys were illeagal. I want to compete with the university of mississippi to suply big pharm and myself
DEA is in the process of reclassifying cannabis to Schedule 3 from Schedule 1 — Great Start, But Not Nearly Enough. What they are doing is creating a loophole in the Drug Schedule specifically for Big Pharma to get involved in pharmacologically certified naturally derived cannabis medicines. Why would they do that?
The USA patents on Marinol have expired. Marinol had been partially effective, but too potent and purified as synthetic THC for treatment of many ailments. Cannabis has many active ingredients beyond THC, which Big Pharma has been unable to duplicate synthetically at a low enough cost to compete with the natural cannabis plant.
Big Pharma can either get on the cannabis bandwagon, or abandon a potentially lucrative market. But there is already competition for naturally derived cannabis medicine, in 15 State-approved Medical Marijuana programs. And there will at some point be an off-shore Big Pharma competitor with a cannabis product in the USA market — Savitex.
The USA government is stepping up to the plate regarding medical cannabis, finally, but only to enrich Big Pharma instead of improving the health and well-being of all citizens. Their ready reply: A denial that smoked cannabis is medicine, and that any home-made cannabis concentrates are medicine. Only if that medical cannabis product comes from Big Pharma, with Big Pharma’s big price-tag is it to be considered medicine.
There is a term that applies to such legalistic machinations — FASCISM, essentially government by, for, and of the corporations for their private profit. This is not so very different from the Too Big To Fail / Too Big To Jail Banksters’ bailout, by taxpayers — Corporate Welfare. “Privatized Profits, Socialized Risks” is a core principle of fascism. 70+ years after the beginning of cannabis prohibition, which Big Pharma had a part in instigating, they are finally ready to re-enter the medical cannabis market in force, just so long as they have no competition from the peons.
Perhaps it is time again to water the Tree of Liberty with the blood of tyrants. No Egyptian-style rebellion will work in the USA — our government already arrests 800,000 people a year for that illicit contraband, cannabis …
DEA is in the process of reclassifying cannabis to Schedule 3 from Schedule 1 — Great Start, But Not Nearly Good Enough. What they are doing is creating a loophole in the Drug Schedule specifically for Big Pharma to get involved in pharmacologically certified naturally derived cannabis medicines. Why would they do that?
The USA patents on Marinol have expired. Marinol had been partially effective, but too potent and purified as synthetic THC for treatment of many ailments. Cannabis has many active ingredients beyond THC, which Big Pharma has been unable to duplicate synthetically at a low enough cost to compete with the natural cannabis plant.
Big Pharma can either get on the cannabis bandwagon, or abandon a potentially lucrative market. But there is already competition for naturally derived cannabis medicine, in 15 State-approved Medical Marijuana programs. And there will at some point be an off-shore Big Pharma competitor with a cannabis product in the USA market — Savitex.
The USA government is stepping up to the plate regarding medical cannabis, finally, but only to enrich Big Pharma instead of improving the health and well-being of all citizens. Their ready reply: A denial that smoked cannabis is medicine, and that any home-made cannabis concentrates are medicine. Only if that medical cannabis product comes from Big Pharma, with Big Pharma’s big price-tag is it to be considered medicine.
There is a term that applies to such legalistic machinations — FASCISM, essentially government by, for, and of the corporations for their private profit. This is not so very different from the Too Big To Fail / Too Big To Jail Banksters’ bailout, by taxpayers — Corporate Welfare. “Privatized Profits, Socialized Risks” is a core principle of fascism. 70+ years after the beginning of cannabis prohibition, which Big Pharma had a part in instigating, they are finally ready to re-enter the medical cannabis market in force, just so long as they have no competition from the peons.
Perhaps it is time again to water the Tree of Liberty with the blood of tyrants. No Egyptian-style rebellion will work in the USA — our government already arrests 800,000 people a year for that illicit contraband, cannabis …
What is really disturbing is that they are so unafraid of the common person that they will do this out in the open, right in front of us and the press.
We should be extremely disturbed, and extreme in our reaction.
3141 is the number of counties [Genesist colonies] in the U.S. 3141 is the “EXTENDED GENESIST FAMILY.”
“Spend one day – from the rest of your life – protecting your rights – everyone is the protector of their own rights.”
When reading the multitude of posts, we recognize a plethora of varied views and opinions. It’s important to realize that Genesists may have various – even vast differences – but – when push comes to shove – when I need him as much as he needs me – “No Genesist will ever stand alone. When you oppose one – you oppose all. One for all and all for one.
GENESISTS ARE AN EXTENDED FAMILY.
118 Anonymous
They are the epitome of the spoiled little brat – and – what they are saying is:
“No – it’s mine, mine, mine – and – you can’t play with it – go away or my big brother will beat you up!!!”
Talk about a rigged “game”. President BH Obama talks the talk about having a reasonable debate regarding re-legalizing cannabis & hemp, but sticks to the official government mantra that only USA government approved scientific studies are relevant.
The stick in USA citizens’ eye is that the DEA only approves “scientific” studies from researchers who seek further government grants, and those grants will not be forthcoming if the “correct results” are not obtained. Even those studies are few and far between. And government funded studies about cannabis from the past, like the La Guardia and Shafer Commission Reports, have been shelved and ignored — because they obtained results the government didn’t like.
All foreign scientific studies are not approved and paid for by the USA government (DEA), and therefore considered only anecdotal, and their results dismissed out of hand. How much different is this from a petulant child that covers his ears, shouting “la, la, la, la, la, la … I can’t hear you”?
So now the DEA, after multiple attempts by DEA Judges themselves to reclassify cannabis from the most stringent Schedule 1 over the course of 10+ years, is now talking about reclassifying cannabis from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3 — but only for the benefit of Big Pharma. The DEA has managed, with some effort, to twist this reclassification of cannabis into a “special interest benefit” for Big Pharma and the government’s sole supplier of medical cannabis, the University of Mississippi. No doubt the sole supplier status will change, again to the benefit of Big Pharma. But smoked medical cannabis, as approved by at least 15 State-approved Medical Marijuana programs, keeps getting dissed by the DEA as “not medicine” — all evidence to the contrary. And those natural cannabis concentrates that even individual MMJ patients could create in the privacy of their homes — those have been monopolized by Big Pharma with these actions of the DEA.
Ron Paul 2012! legalize
123 David762
123. “la, la, la, la, la, la, – I can’t hear you.”
and
122. “No! – it’s mine, mine, mine – and you can’t play with it – go away or my big brother will beat you up.”
O.K. damn it! This goes far beyond mature logic and reason. So! – what are We the People [the parent] going to do with these irresponsible and unruly children [our representatives]? We absolutely should do something! – or – we are just as irresponsible – even more so than they. We can start by grounding them [go to your room]. We can take away their privileges [no more voting on our behalf], We can have a very serious talk with them about their responsibilities [to represent us], or we can indict them and incarcerate them for their transgressions [dereliction of duty]. Frankly – I would like to see We the People enjoin their ability to vote – as an adversary of We the People’s will. If we take away their gun – they can’t shoot us.
125 Cannabis is fueling the Egyptian Revolution.
Old Miss is not the only researcher. The FDA has had an Investigational Program on cannabis for a long time. It’s the FDA that determines its scheduling. They know exactly what’s up, and are the worst accomplice in this fraud.
[Paul Armentano responds: Congress made the initial determination to place cannabis is schedule I. DEA maintains this scheduling, not FDA. The marijuana used in the IND program you referred to comes from U Miss.]
Nate, you are not alone. There are many idiots who think just like you, and fortunetley, the numbers are decreasing as more and more people discover the truth. Do you really believe that ONLY hippies smoke pot and want it to be legal? No work would get done? The evidence against your bosgus claims is off the charts sir. I think you are a cop. There’s nothing wrong with that. You do owe it to yourself to be a ‘smart cop’ though. Just my opinion. Please get a decent education.
People need to keep in mind that it is not Constitutional for our government to prohibit marijuana, which is why the people posing as The Peoples’ government currently use the Interstate Commerce clause to justify their corporate sponsored war against The People. If one would take the time to read about the I C clause, one would see that it was to allow the Federal government enough power to protect people against powerful corporate interests or abuses by the States…not to give the Federal government power over the individual, for which there is no recourse. If there is no check of power, it is unlawful.
What we really need is a class action type of lawsuit against the Federal government, challenging the use of Interstate Commerce against the common citizen as a violation of individual rights…with the charge of treason against the sovereign rights of the American people as a threat to those who would in future seek to subvert our democracy.
126. Anonymous
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o! – what are We the People [the parent] going to do with these irresponsible and unruly children [our representatives]?
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There is only one course of action that I can think of that might be effective — a coordinated three-pronged attack against the status quo. (1) Massive organized civil disobedience in the form of an economic boycott: no purchase of any new goods or services that aid the Kleptocrats — make do without, or buy used where consumers can pay cash. (2) Write (not email or tweet or facebook) each of our representatives at the State & Federal level regarding complete re-legalization (like beer) of cannabis and an end to the Drug War weekly. AND (3) Change our pattern of voting for the “lesser of two evils” — their all evil, so don’t vote for them, but absolutely don’t fail to vote for someone who actually supports re-legalization and has promised to make it happen.
Consumer spending accounts for 60% of all economic activity in the USA, and shutting that down by 50% will get the attention of “our” politicians, guaranteed. Politicians are greedy pragmatists, and if they come too realize that their constituents have a single most pressing issue to address, at some point they will have to listen. And to make certain that “our” representatives abide by our wishes instead of their base, the Haves & the Have Mores, they need to understand that they will no longer get our votes if they don’t. Short of an armed rebellion, which I consider to be futile, this is the only way to get our rights, liberties, and freedoms back again.
Coool!… leaves an opening to black market
hmmm well they HAVE been doing this for years with poppys……Heroin? NO WAy! Oxys anyone? so after they get the entire country hooked on thier own drugs…then what??? if we keep eating this BS there gonna own EVERYTHING
To Paul Armentano – NORML
Correct me if I’m wrong. Thanking you in advance for your information.
The law clearly indicates a wide range of clinical applications [serious medical conditions] for which cannabis provides symptomatic relief from pain and suffering with no side effects. These indications, – in and of itself – is an admission by the FDA, that cannabis “has current recognized medical purpose. ” In fact – it should be noted that federally supplied cannabis users have been receiving and using cannabis for 11 to 27 years “with clinically demonstrated effectiveness” in the treatment of glaucoma, chronic musculoskeletal pain, spasm, nausea, and spasticity of muscular sclerosis. Furthermore, there is “no evidence that these patients have suffered any negative side effects from the use of cannabis.”
In 1976 the federal government created the Investigational New Drug (IND) Compassionate Access Research Program to allow patients to receive up to nine (9) pounds of cannabis from the government each year. Today, five (5) surviving patients still receive medical cannabis from the federal government, paid for by federal dollars.
The National Institute of Drug Abuse (NIDA) provides cannabis on a monthly basis to a few medical users through the “Compassionate Investigatory New Drug (IND) Program” of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). So!…It’s apparent that cannabis is respectfully, or more likely disrespectfully, in the Investigatory New Drug Program. Now! – all the FDA has to do is examine the preponderance of evidence and research in its favor, including its own, stop dragging their feet, and take this “Wonder Herb” out of purgatory (schedule I substance). It is, therefore, also appropriate to expand the natural curiosity within us, to ask for, even demand, a reasonable explanation as to governments own “double standard, and mendacious role” in medicinal cannabis prohibition. It also seems appropriate to ask” – if it has no medical purpose [why then], for 33 years, since 1976, has cannabis been malingering in the Investigatory Drug Program” – collecting dust? Talk about being buried – WOW! My question, obvious to everyone but the FDA is, “You mean to tell We the People that – in 33 years – you couldn’t find one medical purpose in a medicine that already has efficacy for more than 250 medical conditions.” This audacity defies logic and reason, and is an insult to common sense.
“If” – we are to believe the omnipotent FDA, [that] cannabis has “no medical purpose,” [why then] on October 3, 2003 did the U.S. government, represented by the Department of Health and Human Services, file for, and was awarded, a patent for its use as a antioxidant and neuro-protective. That – at least to me – conclusively I might add – does not indicate the absence of medical purpose. It does however – once again – demonstrate the governments attitude – “It’s mine, and you can’t play with it.” Now! – “Whose kidding who?” Frankly, my intelligence is extremely offended by such immature views and actions, and needs reminding of who and/or what view is presented.
It comes down to one thing and one thing only. MONEY!!! The plant doesn’t put money in Pharma Co’s pockets but a manufactured “equivalent” does. The smartest thing the gov here in the US can do for the people is allow taxed plants to be grow by people for their own use or for the use of others who cannot grow. It can create jobs (which is a major need these days), tax revenue to help with our nations debt and allow people to choose natural methods for their health care choices over the known issues that come with the Pharma products. I don’t see the “War on Drugs” keeping their sites on the pill abuse that has increased 10 fold over the past few years because in my eyes, too many “higher ups” have their hand in the pot with their sales. My request to the government is to please listen to the people and look at the bigger benefit for the people.
The DEA does NOT (legitimately) “make money” through this. It should be found out what corrupt individuals ARE making money from this, and I mean being “paid off” under the table and they should prosecuted for “abuse of power.”
In a “free society” we/anybody should be able to walk into a pharmacy and buy pretty much ANYTHING they want. They should be required to show ID and have their purchases kept track of. Any excessive purchasing could be looked into to prevent selling to minors, etc., and they should be severely prosecuted if that’s what they’re up to. Maybe excessively “high” (no pun intended) personal use could be referred (sold) to companies advertising “Detox Services” or something…………..
@nate:
February 10th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
it is my honest opinion that the only people that want marijuana legalized and pot heads and they’re are giving reasons like people need it for medical reasons even tho threir only real reason for it to be legalized is so they can smoke weed in public to shove it in the face of police officers, there is absolutely no benifitial value to weed whatsoever, if weed would ever be treated like cigarettes like pot heads want car accidents would quadruple,no work would get done anywhere and if any extra money was made off of it, it would be balanced out by the millions of lawsuits when people get killed by someone driving high, also the national obesity rate would skyrocket due to the obvios side effects that go along with marijuana use, the entire idea of legalizing marijuana is hippies trying to final win a battle against “the man” thankfully they remain winless.
0,00000 deaths from MJ
millions from alcohol
sooo f*cking hypocrit! im not a hippy i just like 2 relax with a nice spliff after a hard day of work.
hahaha “the man” lol who are you 2 say who’s the man??? sounds racist all the way!
Ok this is directed to I belive it was CHEMDOG or the person who said the only reason we want it legalized it to rub it in the face of the police. First off you are a fucking moron because you haven’t even looked up one piece of evidence on the subject. If no work would get done and we’d all be high all the time getting into accidents, I guess the same situation would be reflected in Holland, correct? But they have a thriving industry over there and I don’t recall ANY statistics showing someone ODing or Killing anyone from the use of marijuana. I do however see a TON of alcoholics that kill people every year, make people lose their jobs, cause domestic violence, and cause tax payers millions every single year. Cigs have no health benefit at all but we continue to stock the shelves so the companies make more money as people get cancer from smoking the KNOWN carciongenic chemicals inside. Marijuana however has been proven time and time again to help patients with AIDS, HIV, CANCER and Nerve issues (along with others) to prevent wasting syndrome and resistence or prevent the use of addictive opiate drugs like morphine and Oxys. Maybe you are fortunate enough to now have a family member succomb to cancer, where the chemo drives them to stop eating and they only get sicker from there. But maybe you should seek out the patients that Marijuana has helped and see that this natural medication is non addictive and drove them to eat while getting their treatments making them more likely to survive. No matter what drug we have, Alcohol, opiates, prescription meds, marijuana, there will always be stupid people out there abusing them in some shape or form. This is why we would have laws in place such as not smoking and driving or no public smoking like in Holland. Lastly, with this legalization the millions out of work right now will have a new avenue to make money for their family and the goverment will be able to create a revenue to get us out of the Billions of dollars of debt our country is in.
So before you open your uneducated mouth, do proper research and look at the bigger picture for the individual and the country. Besides we need to pull away from the grip of Pharma companies.
NJBourne
I was diagnosed w/ stage Three colon cancer 4 yrs.ago. Chemotherapy was causing severe weight loss, along with the worst sickness I’ve had in the 56 years on earth, EVERY day. I asked my oncologist if MARIJUANA would help?
To my surprise she said quote: ‘of course it will I can prescribe Marinol. I declined the offer thinking I may get sicker from more synthetic chemicals. Having NOT smoked MARIJUANA since High School I figured if it didn’t help at least I could laugh about it. I didn’t have any trouble getting it and was actually quicker than the Pharmacy. I smoked up until 2 weeks prior to surgery,(advice from my oncologist) this caused my weight to return to normal, eliminated the daily sickness, made me realize how retarded the individuals are who don’t want it legalized, and only God knows, may have saved my life. I’m cancer free today and feel better than ever.
endless war and a corrupt government doen’t scare folks these days.
what scares folks these days are sick people doing bonghits and two queer people who want to get married.
thaqt’s what scares people these days. that and um… democrats and republicans
“DBCooper”? Excellent!!! :o)
endless war and a corrupt government doen’t scare folks these days.
what scares folks these days are sick people doing bonghits and two queer people who want to get married
“Marihuana” is a very dangerous drug and even small amounts can cause hysteria, bed wetting and strokes among members of drug free America cults. If legalized their heads could potentially explode.
[b]Here comes Grubbs Barthwell and Bayer while Ganja and Hemp remain for the outlaws. Hummm sounds familiar…[/b]
Is The DEA Legalizing THC?
That is really funny but if you get caught you’re doomed. Why don’t you just head over to a rehab?
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