Funny how when it’s immigration, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer claims states rights and opposes federal interference, but when it’s the state voting for medical marijuana, she invites federal interference.
(East Valley Tribune) Saying she fears people could wind up in legal trouble, Gov. Jan Brewer on Tuesday ordered the state attorney general to get a federal court to rule whether Arizona can implement its medical marijuana law.
[S]he said a letter from Dennis Burke, the U.S. Attorney for Arizona, to her state health chief appeared to be a warning that anyone involved — from patients and dispensary operators to landlords and even state health officials — could wind up being prosecuted by his office.
Boo! The scare letter tactic seems to be working. Rhode Island balked, Washington balked, now Arizona. Despite the fact that this medical marijuana has been federally illegal the whole time and New Mexico and Colorado have been licensing dispensaries for years with no federal interference
“I believe in the will of the people,” Brewer said, even though she personally opposed the initiative. “Unfortunately, with this piece of legislation, there are some pretty serious consequences if we don’t get them resolved,” she continued. “And I, as governor, am not willing to put those people at risk.”
Bull. You opposed the initiative and you’re using the empty threat from a US Attorney to provide the cover for you to overturn what was only 50.13% of the people’s will.
Despite that, the state will continue issuing “qualified patient” cards to anyone who produces the required doctor’s certification that they have a medical condition which can be treated with marijuana.
Gubernatorial press aide Matthew Benson said the state really has no choice: The initiative approved in November says if the state does not accept applications, then anyone who has the doctor’s recommendation is automatically considered to have been issued a card.
That’s some pretty clever language drafting there. I have to give props to the folks at MPP who came up with that one. If you don’t get a card 45 days after turning in your recommendation, that recommendation is your valid card. Either the state controls who is a legal medical marijuana patient or thousands of doctors will. You’d think if the governor wanted to have some control over this, she wouldn’t try to stop issuing the cards.
About 4,000 Arizonans already are certified under state law to be able to purchase up to 2 1/2 ounces of marijuana every two weeks.
That’s a pretty rapid growth curve! Remember, this initiative wasn’t even officially passed until December and the online-only registration system opened up just six weeks ago.
[Brewer] wants to know whether state officials who issue dispensary licenses can be prosecuted because they are “facilitating” the distribution of marijuana. And Brewer said she fears that the state Department of Public Safety could lose federal grants by refusing as a matter of policy to arrest those caught with the drug simply because they are complying with state law.
Now you’re really reaching, Governor. You can’t name any one of the now 16 medical marijuana states over the past fourteen years that has lost a single federal grant for not locking up patients.
As for the dispensary licenses? Remember how much I complained about the “25-mile halo rule”? This was a part of MPP’s language that said you could only grow your own medical marijuana if you lived more than 25 miles from a dispensary. Well, if Brewer gets the answer we know she’ll get, which is “hell, yes, the feds could go after state employees”, and she directs the state to issue no dispensary licenses, that means all those current 4,000 patients can grow their own dozen cannabis plants. That could be over 30,000 patients within a year growing over 400,000 cannabis plants all over Arizona.
Again, you’d think if the governor wanted to have some control over this, she’d implement the law, issue dispensary licenses, and keep the vast majority of cultivation in licensed, inspected, secure locations.
DAMN! That woman’s UGLY as HELL!!! She’s just trying to scare people with two of that hideous face, but she really is putting herself further down into that pit of destruction.
I say start a nation wide private registry and screw the local level. Put the fees into a general fund to defend those PATIENTS/CAREGIVERS who get arrested for using cannabis for medical reasons.
I’m disabled live and Michigan and frigging sick and tired of having to worry about my health and getting arrested even though I’m completely legal.
I’m waiting for the Democrats to start their BS to try buddy up to those of us who know the truth about cannabis so we’ll vote for them in 2012.
Guess what? They do that they’ll lose my vote!
After all the promises made by Obama on the campaign trail the first time about how he wants medical marijuana users left alone was frigging lie.
Cannabis has never killed anyone it financed our country and its time to stop the marijuana prohibition and wasting billions of tax payer dollars every year.
“Sow your hemp seeds everywhere” GW (George Washington, not George Bush)
The Federal Government will run out of money if they continue this war. 16 states mmj more to follow! Vegas looking to legalize! Here in Washington the WESTNET needs to be shut down arresting people who have little to no money to fight them in court. Using heavyhanded tactic’s going after the arrestie’s family threating the family’s that needs to stop. It would be nice if NORML Would make some attorney’s pro bono! I will continue to fight the westnet bring them down to their knee’s! Smalltown’s need a Giant spotlight aimed at the police,sherriff’s department’s.
There is light in this dark but the dark continues to attack
What’s worse, Democrats keeping the War On Some Drugs going or Republicans showing how two-faced they are when it comes to states’ rights issues?
I guess AZ is another state I will not be retiring to in a few years.
Interesting take I got from this article. Could she secretly support legalization? I.E. Saying, “Sorry, I can’t do what you want.”, but by not doing anything allowing the situation to exponentially grow in the state changing the law from a restrictive MMJ law to one of the loosest least regulated in the country.
I see this working doubly for her by assuring her conservative base she trying to stop it, but by doing nothing helping the opposing side by letting it happen in a natural and way more explosive fashion.
It was definitely crafted so that inaction by the state wouldn’t invalidate the people’s will. That is one of the best pieces of legislation I’ve seen in a long while. A sort of ultimatum as, “This is the will of the people, implement it or we will.” With that kind of language. Like was said, if she’s so adamant against it, then is it not better to have control where limits can be place effectively?
If her position is as she says, then she needs to go to her state legislature to amend the law.
Let’s not forget the arrest immunity provided by the Federal Controlled Substances Act, Section 885 (Burden of Proof) Statute D. Explicitly states: … no civil or criminal liability shall be imposed [on] any Federal, state, or local officials… . I believe it’s time to get LOUD!
Where is the outrage? It’s like Libya I ask you what is the difference. Legacy of fear and control. The state continues to take in revenue and proposed X3 taxation. Are you kidding me. Know one protests. The sore loser railroading 840.000 votes. No mention of this. I’m astonished.
Government is defying its own power – and – the consequence of this denial of Faith and Sacrament – will be that government will bear the results of its own actions on the bosom of its soul – or – the void where a soul once existed – and – we will wear governments boot print on our ass.
A show of force – and – acts of intimidation – by the DOJ – “Will not scare Genesists back to submission.” They will only assuredly cause an increasingly higher wall of defense – until that wall becomes impenetrable. If the DOJ continues to use force against its citizens [for any reason] – that force will be considered a violation against the Country, The Constitution, its laws, and The American People – but – most especially The American Genesist.. That continued show of force – will be considered an act of war – as it is so named and portrayed by government as [War On Drugs]. Most assuredly – it is a domestic war, and social revolution, with the greater percentage in favor of legalization. We’ve gotten this far since our Sacrament has been denied us. Many of our brethren have fallen to this “War on Drugs.” Many have fallen on both sides. All of them went and gave some – some of then went and gave it all.”
“The next step is to go a little crazy…right!” This is where you have the honor of choosing – “this way – or – that way.” Which is it? Become active and do just one thing – Demand/Mandate Scientific Conclusion, derived from, and based on scientific research, from every source of science – with the evidence being submitted to a candid public for its examination.
As an Arizona resident it amazes me how this Governor has no problem taking on the federal government over her rascist immigration laws but buddys up to the feds to keep medication away from people who need it.
This state is under siege by political bullys and dictators like Brewer and Arpio, please somebody help us !!!!!! The people have spoken stand down Brewer nobodys impressed by you undermining the will of the people.
Good I can not stand this medical marijuana movement. Now lets get back to legalization for everybody. Then the sick wont have to break FEDERAL LAW!!
New Topic(kinda): The will of the people
Our constitution starts with, “We the people…”. Our democracy was founded on the principle of representation. This was done indirectly(through elected officials) when the constitution was set up. Times have changed and many times (like in this story) politicians go against the will of the people for their own purposes. Whether it be because of re-election, personal principles, lobbying efforts by a few, or possibly something else doesn’t matter. What matters, is that the people’s will isn’t being followed. This was why our government was founded, “No taxation without representation!” Now the cry needs to be, “No taxing without true representation!”
How do we fix this? Initiatives and Referendums(I&R) allow the people to correct mistakes they think the government has made through direct(will of the people, not a politician vote) democracy. How many actually have any form of direct(non-purely representative) democracy? How many states have direct democracy to propose new laws(AKA a non-politician can get a law on the ballot box)? How many states support the main forms of direct democracy(aka voting an issue up/down no matter how proposed)?
The first is 49(only in Delaware do people not get to vote on state constitutional amendments). Though about half only have politician initiated and then citizen voted direct democracy with no other form.
21 (21 directly and 13 more indirectly) for the second(citizen initiated) and guess what? 9 of those have MMJ now that’s almost half the places where, “We the people…” actually means something.
Sadly it’s only 8 for this third one, but 7 of those 8 have MMJ. Makes one think?
To quote a founding father, Thomas Jefferson, “Some are whigs, liberals, democrats, call them what you please. Others are tories, serviles, aristocrats, &c. The latter fear the people, and wish to transfer all power to the higher classes of society; the former consider the people as the safest depository of power in the last resort; they cherish them therefore, and wish to leave in them all the powers to the exercise of which they are competent.”[sic]
The more famous quote, “Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.”, actually belongs to John Basil Barnhill
The more power given to the people the more likely we are to be free of tyranny where the very few control the many and have liberty. WE THE PEOPLE need to make that mean something again.
The other side: On a federal level we live in a Republic. It is a representative democracy with checks and balances to try to ensure that the rights of the few are subjected to the will of the many. This is good, but I think the problem is the balance is wrong.
Food for thought: (Take these proposals as referendums and you can see how both sides are right and need to be respected.)
The date is Nov. 2 2002 with 9/11 still fresh in the minds of the people. It’s a mid-term election day. The question on the ballot, “Should Sunni(all the attacker were Sunni extremists) Muslims be banned from the U.S?”
It’s very possible the answer would have been yes with people not understanding the terrorist views are an extreme POV by a few within a much larger group.
Now our issue. I’m going with MMJ rather than full decrim as it has the most popular support. (AKA from people like parents who want people to have medicine, but think drugs are never good for recreation). The question, “Should the U.S. implement a national medical marijuana program?”
This would of course force rescheduling, etc… an would like be passed as over support is easily of 2/3’s the general populace.
We must have direct democracy, but with a system of checks and balances along the lines of PotUS veto or a SCotUS challenge. This would ensure the people get their will done and that the executive/judicial branches can still uphold the rights of the few(which is supposed to be a big part of the SCotUS’s job). With this proposition one might have passed, but it would have likely been vetoed or if not out of non-reelection fears then a Sunni could easily challenge it under his/her 1st amendment rights and likely easily win. A republic is fine, but WE THE PEOPLE need to make sure democracy is not lost.
My suggestion: Write your congressman/woman and tell them to propose a law or amendment to give the people more power. If they balk at it, ask them why not? If they continue to say no, then you know who the, “tories, serviles, aristocrats, &c”[sic], Jefferson was speaking of are. Honestly, the government shouldn’t fear the people, but should respect the people. Respect is reciprocal, you want respect you must give it. Be polite, be courteous, but be firm.
WE THE PEOPLE need to make it mean something again.
Charles Lupton
Ultimately, this isn’t about Brewer. It’s about the Obama administration’s two-faced approach to medical marijuana. Many people have the impression that Obama has kept his campaign pledge and directed the feds not to use scarce resources to go after medical marijuana in states where it is legal. We all remember the Holder memo. The truth is that Obama put the same woman in charge of the DEA that led all the raids under Bush, and the raids and intimidation have continued. He wants to have his cake and eat it, too, so to speak. He wants the youth and the progressive vote, so he hopes people aren’t paying attention to what is really going on. I think it’s pretty clear that Obama is an enemy of the medical cannabis community. We should all think hard before supporting him.
grandstanding BITCH!!!!
I no longer live in az. but in the 80s we the people passed medical marijuana into law only to have that Gov. Simmington crook. veto the will of the people.worthless piece of crap.
I want to be Governor and work for the people. We could smoke joints in my office while we straighten out the state of Az. vote for me.
Again how can something that over 50% of the people voted for be shutdown? Then why even vote? If politicans can change it if they don’t like it then whats the point? Freedom? HA!
I would say we could legalize , regulate and tax it to see if it can keep medicare and medicaid going. Marijuana can generate more than enough money for alot of things. It can and will help. So give it a chance , unless your’re afraid WE THE PEOPLE are right. If oil can have subsidies than we can put money in healthcare from marijuana sales. Great for stock market.
what do u expect from a polition? rember the first Bush, ” Read My Lips No New Taxes”. upper here the gov. of Mn. said the rich will pay more in taxes, well made not, well take it from the poor,elder and disabled. politications will say anything u want to here till they get in there and then it’s ah what I, didn’t say that. CROOKS
Then we come to learn that a Marine veteran who served two terms in Iraq is shot 60 times by Arizona “law enforcement” in Pima County in a botched MJ raid. Of course, the cops tried to claim that he shot first (after he told his wife and kid to hide in the closet), but evidence shows that not only did he NOT shoot–he had the friggin’ safety of his gun on.
The victim, Jose Guerena, had no prior arrests–and no MJ. Guess that wasn’t enough to keep the trigger-happy Arizona cops from pumping 60 bullets into him. Gee, it seems they don’t like potheads–that is, unless it’s them smoking the stuff they confiscate.
Who the hell are we supposed to vote for next?
Obama turned out worse than Bush. Amazingly, Obama continues to lie about the War on Drugs. He even claims there is no War, while ramping it up! I refuse to vote for him, and give the DEA another boost.
The Republicans, while claiming to support the Constitution and personal freedom, have been brainwashed almost to a man.
Ron Paul speaks the truth, but he never scores high in polls.
It sure seems hopeless.
is this lady an idiot look at all the other states that have medical laws. and we still get fed funding this lady is stupid get with time screw the federal government
Jan Brewer is suing the Feds over this one, who are rapidly trying to back-track on the letters and are complaining loudly over being sued lol.
We may want to give her the benefit of the doubt, at least for a bit.
Wow! That woman’s face could be an anti-PETA ad.
WE THE PEOPLE hasnt meant nothin 4 a long time…Im sorry mr lupton, but its true, and its not the peoples fault…it congress…now…the constitution also states that states govern themselves, therefore, like the other states that have med. marijuana, they dont really have nething 2 worry about bc they r stayin w/in guidelines…all it is is an empty threat…if they do go through w/ it, its gonna cause chaos all over the country and they know it, and they dont want that…most of our government doesnt respect its citizens, but we still try 2 respect our government…The governor of AZ needs 2 converse w/ some of the other med. marijuana state governors and get things situated…otherwise our government is just gonna continue 2 try and force us in2 submission…and ppl may laugh at this or not believe it at all, but 1 of these days the ppl r gonna get tired of bein screwed over and its gonna tear our country apart…and that sux
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Sounds like another that is afraid to let the people speak out. I am glad that us Veterans aren’t scared to open our mouth. We are fighting for getting it legal in our state in AR. Tyranny is not fought with words, look at all the so called countries that we have claimed to be oppressed. Now take a look in our own back yard.
Makes us a real winner right?
Are you in Louisiana? Wanna help out bringing an end to the drug war?
Ron Paul is asking for help. http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/05/26/ron-paul-needs-your-help-now/
Ron Paul 2012!
This comes after her SWAT team murdered an innocent man over supposed cannibus possesion. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/25/jose-guerena-arizona-_n_867020.html
I posted a link to her comment page in the thread last night hear it is again http://www.azgovernor.gov/Contact.asp
more of the same more of the same…
I’m tired being angry, tired of being disappointed. I’m hungry for CHANGE (yes that might mean sending money). I backed Arizona on the immigration thing specifically because it’s a states rights issue and by extension so should medical marijuana be a states issue. This is crap but ultimately it means nothing. Nor does the draconian law in Oklahoma. It just means “stay underground”– don’t worry fellow Groundhogs, one day our shadow will be gone and spring will be here.
vote her out
23. Longtime Puffer Greetings from Manford “Manny” Mantis
If that doesn’t create a violent reaction in your gut, I don’t know what, on this planet, would. What! it took 60 bullets – one wouldn’t do. How botched up was this raid. All gave some – some gave it all. They’re killing us man! Was there a dog in the house? They kill dogs too. They kill horses don’t they?
With details – this could be the straw that broke the camels back – and – the poster boy for a cease and desist order from we the people – at the very least American Genesists. We are thoroughly outraged by this attack on the American people. If this isn’t “war” – I don’t know what is.
Good seeing you on the boards again.
23. Puff
I found the story on Huffington Post. I could only read half of it – because – it made me so angry – I had to take Sacrament to calm me down. If any thing in this world ever made me want to “punch Government squarely in the nose” it was this story. But- we are a peaceful people – regardless of wanting to get a “huge piece full of governments ass – tack it up on the wall – and – throw darts at it.” We the People should send a “Cease and Desist Order” to government – with Guerena as the Poster Boy.
I appeal to all Genesists in the U.S. – Flood the Governors phone with you anger. For God’s sake – don’t let them think that they have gottten away with anything.
@32 – Full Story from both sides from a local (although slanted liberal source). http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/article_a978c23a-a40f-5d0a-a203-76b88ac67e86.html?mode=story
For a moment let’s assume he was guilty…
Osama = 2 shots
Jose Guerena = 60 shots
Still seems excessive force was used…
The government doesnt seem to know what it wants to do
Lets ask the question if it was her in pain all the time and the only thing that really took the pain away was marijuana then you think she would get with the program. Some of us cannot take pain medications due to allergies and that prevents us from having a normal life. To have the federal government interfere with the state laws just overrides the purpose for even having state laws. The governor is clearly on her own agenda and should be thinking of the mass population that can use medical marijuana for health reasons. The thought of driving under the influence should not be a concern because if you look at it this way alcohol is legal and not everyone breaks the law. Anyway you look at there is going to be law breakers and they are the stupid ones let the smart ones live a normal life.
TO ALL GENESISTS IN ARIZONA and anyone of interest.
Make up color posters with Jose Guereno’s military picture all over it. Now! like the success of 4-20 @ 4:20 take the posters and go stand in front of any government office.
“If a single Genesist plant him or her self indomitably on his or her instincts – and there abide – the huge world will come round to him or her.” Make a sea of Guereno posters as far as the eye can see. Let’s make an example out of these killer robots. Every one in Arizona should have a Jose Guereno T-shirt to rub the killer robots nose in – all day – every day – 24/7. We must do this for our fallen brethren. It’s an honor to do this.
What have you done this week to support the organizations that are lobbying on our behalf? Norml and their local affiliates need money to keep their advocacy going. ASA, MPP and countless other activist organizations are busting their bums for us. That’s how change happens now. You gotta love the bit in AZ’s law about power reverting back to the people if the government doesn’t pick up the ball. That came from a seasoned activist. It costs money.
in peace…
I wonder if the governor is proud of the Pima County Police who just gunned down an ex-Marine, in an attempt to find marijuana.
The police burst into this poor guy’s home and, when they saw that he was carrying a gun, they blasted him with over 70 shots!
They found no marijuana or other illegal activity, but they did find the man’s terrified wife and 4 year-old son hiding in a closet.
When is this kind of crap going to end?
Obama will probably give these officers a medal.
http://www.free-press-release.com/news-synthetic-cannabinoid-bans-fail-regulations-may-be-next-1306164067.html
April 6th by DEA Deputy Administrator of Diversion Control, Joseph Rannazzisi “There may be in excess of 100 cannabinoid products that have yet to be introduced into the marketplace. Manufacturers and distributors will continue to be one step ahead of any State or Federal drug-specific banning or control action by introducing / repackaging new cannabinoid products that are not controlled”.
How ironic, the way for the natural cannabinoids paved by research chemicals sold over the internet… thats how this all ends? heh heh heh. whatevers clever, DEA.
I’m not sure why everyone is criticizing AZ’s governor. It sounds like she’s trying to get the federal government to make up it’s damn mind, whether the states are allowed to proceed with their own medical marijuana laws, or not. She doesn’t want a bunch of raids and drug cartel murders occuring in her state. So far the feds have danced around the issue and refused to give us any definitive answers. That’s that problem with the decriminalization/legalization movement; it’s riddled with diehard liberals who refuse to acknowledge that the federal government are the only ones holding us back. Stop blaming Brewer, and start blaming Obama and Eric Holder.
Dear Jan:
You are governor of a state. Enforcing federal laws is not only not your job, it is outside your position.
Your job is to lead and protect the people of your state.
If i was an Arizonan, you’d be siding with the enemy. Your state population is your only concern.
You really shouldn’t get so worried about her asking for the court’s opinion, because nothing can legally come of it. The courts cannot rule on the validity of any law simply at the request of a governor or other politician. In order to get the courts to rule on the validity of a law, you have to have legal standing to bring a lawsuit, which Brewer does not have here. Legal standing is achieved when your rights are violated by a law, giving you a legitimate grievance upon which to act. Currently, nobody, even the federal government, has standing to challenge this law because the law has not been implemented yet. A law which has not yet been implemented cannot be litigated in court. Once this law is implemented, the only people with legal standing to bring it to court will be the federal government, because the law is not in accordance with their laws, or the patients, if they allege that the system is inadequate to meet the stated goals of the law. That’s it. Brewer does not, and will not, have the standing to bring this law to court. If she wants to know how legal the law is, she has to let it be implemented and wait for the federal government to bring a lawsuit. Right now, the only thing that can possibly happen is individual justices may give their private opinions of whether the law is likely to be found legal. However, those are only the private opinion on individual justices, and cannot be taken as a binding decision by any court. This is just ineffectual grandstanding by Brewer, a giant bluff. If any court tries to make a ruling on this law at this point, such a ruling would be illegal.
I made a little error in my above post. Patients will actually have standing to bring this law to court for two reasons. The first, as I previously stated, would be if patients felt the system was inadequate to accomplish the goals of the law. The second is when the feds decide to arrest people following the state law. It’s very important to remember that if the feds ignore a state law to persecute you, you have the right to sue them.
I have been a Republican all my life, and I am over 50.
If the Republican Party cannot get in line with the will of the people, and support, and PUSH FOR the legalization of marijuana, I am going to chnage parties, and influence my large family to follow suite.
Any political party that does not stand for PERSONAL FREEDOM of the American citizen should not be allowed to exist.
With that said, please stand up with me against any political party that will not stand with us.
You know the saying “If they are not for US, they are against US”. Let’s send a message. Please take the time to write a letter or email your elected Representatives. If you don’t know who they are, internet search for your State’s website, and do a little searching. They are easy to find, and they need to hear from YOU.
Wayside’s post in dead-on accurate. I’m no fan of Brewer’s, but this isn’t about her. It’s about the Obama administration. It’s about Obama appointing Michelle Leonhart to head the DEA, so she can continue the harassment and intimidation of the medical cannabis community that she carried out under Bush. The only real difference I see between Obama and Bush on this issue is that Obama and his people are trying to create the perception that they are on the side of medical cannabis states while working hard to undermine us. I’m shocked that people still think Obama is on the side of science-based social policy instead of raw government power over the personal lives of citizens. Obama is either a rabid prohibitionist or he goes all weak in the knees when he comes up against the prison industrial complex that the DEA is an important part of. Does it really matter which one it is? The result is the same.
Reading recent articles and back-tracking by the DEA.
In the case of the DEA the letter says, “Yes, we can”, but it never says, “Yes, we will”. Nice politicking on their part.
In Brewer’s defense, as Governor she is obligated to look out for the people of her state including Government employees. After seeing the jack-booted techniques of the DEA, I’d be worried to even as a MJ/MMJ supporter myself. I would be trying to force an answer from the Fed as well. My next action(and hers) would depend on that answer. If she use a, “No.” answer to try to shuffle the people’s will, then I say, vote her out. If she uses it as a means to stand up for state’s and individual’s rights even though she is against this particular issue herself… Well that is a rare quality in politics and I would personally drive to AZ to campaign for her re-election even if I don’t agree with her policies.
My opinion on Brewer is, “Time will tell all.” I’m waiting to see where this goes and her response to what is likely to be the answer she is likely expecting from the Fed.
45. Wayside
Brewer is the governor of a sovereign state. She knows exactly what she can or can’t do [No clarification needed]. If brewer is waiting for clarification from the feds – I’m sure she received her copy of the DOJ Memo 02.09.11. If Brewer is protecting the sovereign state of Arizona, Arizona Genesists, and its sovereign rights – I will give her credit and apologize for anything negative I may have said against her – but – for now – there’s plenty of crow flying around, and I don’t smell pie crust baking – so – I don’t expect I’ll be eating crow any time soon. All the governor has to do is prove herself – because – she is shaming herself right now. Babe Ruth once said – “You can change jeers to cheers – all you have to do is “produce.” Well! Start producing Gov.
It’s amazing what Pharma & alcohol and do feeding politicians with mouthfuls of money …………
If this isn’t a drug war , than whos war crimes are these?
Hey Manford Man (re 36 & 37),
Thanks for the greetings. I agree with ya. It’s ridiculous. I keep telling people our govt isn’t as bad as “real” dictatorships–then we see this sort of crap. It’s gettin’ real hard to defend these fools. The GOP, the Dems, most of ’em.
I’ve been sending a few emails to my Sens–keep getting the usual replies. Most of ’em seem to be afraid–they’re more concerned about their keeping their cozy positions than serving the people.
And our media . . . I won’t open THAT can of worms right now, too disgusted.
Anyway, best wishes, Manford, & thanks again for the greeting.
@WhiteRabbit – I’d suggest you make sure they are all registered and vote for either Gary Johnson(social liberal) or Ron Paul(more socially conservative) in your state’s GOP primary. They can’t win without the nomination. Time to be active is now!!
P.S. Smaller voting pools in a primary means each vote counts.
This is such a hypocritical move on her part. Also note that as of tonight NBC news I believe, AZ HAS STOPPED issuing cards to people. I’m also concerned with 2 things. The first Being what happens to other states laws when the feds are forced into changing theirs? CA better watch out! The second being, since our state “AZ” is completely broke, how many millions of dollars is this going to cost us as tax payers? Instead of the state making money off this new law, they’ve found a way to make it cost us yet again. Thanks Brewer way to help the people out!
We need a shutdown on Jan Brewer.
Gov. Jan Brewer 05.24.11
To: Arizonans
The U.S. Attorney for Arizona said – “The federal government considers marijuana a controlled substance. Arizonans deserve clarity on an issue with such dire implications.
The Genesist Faith 05.27.11
To: Jan Brewer.
“May God have mercy on your soul.”
To: Arizona killer robots.
“You murdered Jose Guerno – you deserve “no mercy.” You’ve disgraced Qualified Immunity and the badge you wear. May you wear the badge of your disgrace on the bosom of your souls. I’ve seen your face – and – it’s too much for me today.
To: My brethren Genesists
“Lift your heads and let it out.”
It seems – the trade mark of their absolute arrogance – is their murder of Jose Guerno [perhaps a message – if so – message received]. Their history of killing the family dog in these raids was probably “Gateway Killings” to now killing humans. There will come a time – evidentially now – when words become babble and you’re pissin’ in the wind. We the people are paying the price [death] for governments bad deeds. They’re squeezing every last drop of “tolerance” out of us – leaving us nowhere to go but – well!- use your imagination. It’s time – to get it all out into the light – let the light reveal the truth and the flaws. It’s time – for government to write – “I will not kill American citizens” 500 times on the blackboard. This is just a gentle reminder – but – the killer robots that murdered Jose Guerno should be saying “The Lords Prayer” – and – should be asking God for his forgiveness – for they are the evil in the valley of death. They should be using cannabis they “thought” Jose had – to help them sleep at night – because – “I don’t know how they can sleep at night with Jose’s murder on their conscience.” Yes I do – “They have no conscience – and – they have 60 bullets to prove it.”
“EVIL WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL – WHEN GOOD PEOPLE DO NOTHING.”
56. Longtime Puffer
Once upon a time – you and I played “ping pong” with politics. The thing that impressed me most was that – “We got pass the politics and stood on common ground – arm in arm.” Politics are for politicians. We being neither – can see, with open eyes, from the outside looking in, the mendacity of it all. It’s my greatest hope that all Americans get past the politics, and focus on the prize i.e. our freedom. Puff – I say this with certainty – “It has nothing to do with anything but domination by a few or by many – and – the mendacity is running ramped.” So! Here’s my comment to government – “You can fool some of the people all of the time – all of the people some of the time – but – they need an attitude adjustment if they think they can fool all of the people all of the time – or – Puff and I any time.
Have a great CDXX Communion Puff.
Well, out here in Cali. it’s the same thing as usual . In fact our marijuana laws seem to be getting even loser than ever . I never worry about where my next batch of medicine comes from & i know our local Police don’t really care how much pot you smoke . I never hide it . In fact there’s a bag of weed sitting on the table in my living room and if the Police came knocking on my door, i would invite them in and keep my weed in plain sight . The attitute out here is………….big deal, so you smoke Pot ? What else is new . The enforcement is more after the drunks than anyone else .
……………by the way, that doesn’t mean you still won’t get busted for possession, though & selling pot can still get you time in the slammer but i do nothing illegal so i never have to worry .
The more the feds try , the more larger the problem.
Plato once gave the analogy of the cave. We’re seated in a cave watching a shadow puppet show projected onto the wall, with our back turned to the real show and this is what we consider “reality.” It is ignorance that keeps us from seeing the reality that is really behind us.
Prohibition is a scheme. It is as destructive to this country’s future as the military industrial complex invading and occupying, warring against countries for profit, money.
People assume that prohibition is just some minor law, a somewhat acceptable compromise of our rights as human beings, responsible adults, in the name of public safety. In reality, prohibition *is* one of the major social problems facing this country if you realize how pervasively destructive and pernicious it is to the common welfare.
People confuse our government (Executive Legislative Judicial) with the people in office, elected and appointed individuals, people like us. They use misinformation and disinformation to create a facade of concern about our best interests are or should be. It’s a giant Protestant, puritanical hypocrisy to encourage binge drinking at 21 but to keep Cannabis illegal with absurdly harsh penalties for use.
Let the punishment fit the crime. Cannabis use is no crime at all.
The reality is prohibition is an unjust and paternalistic law that pretends to protect us when it directly contradicts our best interests and creates far more problems that it claims to solve.
Cannabis has been shown to create new brain cells and activates parts of the human brain and prefrontal cortex that would otherwise go unused. Cannabis is medicine for multiple ailments, without the potentially lethal side effects of “legal” medicine. Cannabis has been shown to suppress cancer and tumor growth. Cannabis makes activities and experiences more enjoyable, makes the stressed and angry, docile. Cannabis was critical to human survival and that’s why we humans carried it to every corner of the globe.
Prohibition exists to generate money for the prison industry, for Big Pharma and Petro and chemical industries. It continues to perpetuate inequities among social classes by being clearly racist in the “justice” system. Justice is not the same thing as fairness. Justice in this country is something that is paid for, bought and sold. Fairness is something that even chimpanzees have been shown to understand.
Prohibition is unfair and destructive. Prohibition is unjust, arbitrary, and paternalistic. Prohibition is immoral because it clearly serves the financial interests of the few and selectively discriminates against certain social classes and racial groups.
An unjust law is no law at all; prohibition defies the spirit of the law. It is a travesty of public policy. That is why people simply ignore that “law.” Prohibition is an ineffective, dishonest waste of tax revenues and public resources, while teaching people disdain for law enforcement and the law itself. This, while legal and potentially lethal “medicines” (even Tylenol) saturate the market.
Prohibition is one of this country’s biggest problems, so pervasive that people can no longer see how much misery it creates. And this is no foreign enemy or environmental force we cannot control, it is public policy that can be changed in a day. Fifty-one senators could vote and eliminate the stupidity. Unfortunately, public officials are mostly corrupt and self-enriching megalomaniacs and when they enter office they enter a system that trains them to maintain the status quo.
Anyone on Facebook, be very vigilant about any person/group named “Cannabiz” or even “Arizona Cannabiz”. It’s believed, with some degree of affirmation, they are the “Feds”. They have very particular similarities throughout the different state pages. This just goes to show that they won’t be backing down. Those 3 federal med pot bills just introduced will probably see an early demise, but that doesn’t mean we should give up! We must go harder, and speak LOUDER!
I live in Arizona and am a person approved by State of Arizona for medical cannabis. This is not the first time Governor Brewer has played games with the medical care for sick people. She is currently trying to drop thousands of people from a health care program for poor people called Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System (Arizona AHCCCS.) This was something else the people of this state voted for that she doesn’t like (costs “too much money”—money she’d rather hand out to rich Republican cronies in the form of tax breaks.) She is also fighting the federal government for her “right” to drop Arizonans from Medicare. Funny how she’s willing to fight the feds when it comes to harrassing Hispanics (SB1070) or deny poor people medical care, but when it comes to fighting the feds on medical cannabis, suddenly she’s worried about what the feds think.
Make no mistake, Brewer is a not our friend. As I said, I live in this state. This is a governor who uses any and all tools to enforce her agenda, which is creating a de facto police state here. She recently signed a law stating she can authorize a “state militia” outside of the National Guard for “emergencies”. In other words, she can raise her own private army. And we’ve seen how well personal militias behave in the Middle East, haven’t we?
Get the protest signs ready. We’re going to need them.
Hey Manford Man, re 61,
Thanks again, and well-said. I don’t trust most of ’em. This situation where we allow lobbyists to dictate our laws and regulations is sickening. It’s a system created to please the highest bidder–and they’re the ones with all the dough. But I honestly believe that justice will in the end prevail.
So here’s a Memorial Day puff to you, Manford Man, to everybody else on these boards, and especially to the voters in CA and Colo. and Mass. and the other states who are trying to get MJ legalization on the next ballot.
Seems to me his lady is a controling hyprocritical dictator. Brewer can not choose state laws over one issue because she agrees with the states immigration laws and then turn around and choose Federal law because she agrees with the federal marijuana. Its either State law over rides federal or federal over rides state and it looks like she is only choosing which one sides with her ideals. So by her doing this it seems like she wants it her way only which could be dictatorship, or a hypocrite by choosing state over federal one time and then saying yes to federal law another. Brewer is just looking for a way to get what SHE wants! She should be kicked from office and let the citizens of the state truly decide whtat laws go into and elect somebody that will listen.
I am relatively new to this state “6 years”, but from what I’ve seen in that past few years of living here the former statement is 100% true, and it makes me sick. It all comes down to their personal agenda and greed. They seriously don’t care who they have to step on to get what they want! Maybe they should worry about the thousands of Hispanics that are paying for other peoples identities and social security numbers to gain benefits from the AHCCCS system and not so much the people that actually need it for their health care.
I want to make this as perfectly clear as I can possibly make it – and – I seek the support of the American people – Genesist or not.
“Anyone – and – I mean any single person – who sacrifices their state sovereignty to the feds is a traitor to his or her state – and – his or her country – if they have the audacity to call either state or country “theirs.” I said what I meant – and – I meant what I said. All I can say other than that is _ “She sure can fuck up a beautiful day. Oh ya! we’re still waiting on the truth of her cover up of the murder of Jose Guerena. We should never let her tap dance her way out of that disgrace – never, ever, ever, never. Let her take herself down with her own despicable self.
Governor Jan Brewer’s private army:
http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2011/04/28/brewer-signs-bill-authorizing-volunteer-state-militia/
Now, does this sound like a sane governor, I ask you? Yeah, we’ve seen how well private armies worked in post-2003 Iraq, Afghanistan, and 1990s Bosnia, why not bring that fine tradition home to America!
But wait! There’s more! Jan Brewer really cares about peoples’ health care! Really, she does! Why, just read this!:
http://www.azdailysun.com/news/local/state-and-regional/article_5438a571-45e7-5dcc-be94-6c61a96b2d3b.html
Governor Brewer is our own major disaster in Arizona. This governor was not originally elected by the people. She was Secretary of State here and became governor when our elected governor Janet Napolitano left to join the Obama Administration. In 2010, she was elected, mostly by pandering to the majority right-wingers here who approved of her very gun-friendly policies. See, she’s afraid of people getting medical cannabis, but she isn’t afraid of everyone being allowed to carry a concealed firearm with zero training and no permit required. Yes, she signed that into law.
Governor Brewer has been caught in outright laws before. Once, in defense of the very police state-esque law SB1070, she claimed decapitated bodies had been found inside Arizona—the results of executions by drug cartels. When someone (I think he was a cop) pointed out that hadn’t happened, she claimed she never said that. Until someone rolled the tape at the press conference where she said it. When some Jewish activists pointed out that SB1070 had some similarities to things the Nazis had done, she claimed her father helped liberate the Nazi concentration camps. Until it was revealed that her father never served during World War Two and, thus, was never there. She took some flak again from some Jewish groups, but like all bad press on Brewer, it was quickly swept under the rug and hushed up.
Brewer is lying again in regards to the medical marijuana law. Brewer opposed this law. And since absolute power absolutely corrupts the already corrupted, Brewer is used to getting what she wants no matter whose throat she has to cram it down. She’s looking to garner a fig leaf from the feds by which she can overturn the medical marijuana law. Seeing Obama’s dismal performance on this issue, the feds just might give it to her. The best outcome is if they refuse to hear the case and tell Brewer to go away.
This state is full of supposed “states rights” activists, but they’re mostly social conservatives. They believe in “states rights” when it comes to their guns and money. But when it comes to cannabis, abortion, or gay marriage, they’re mostly in favor of the feds enforcing tyrannical laws at the point of a bayonet. People think Arizona is “sticking it to the feds” but they’re not. They’re in a pissing match over power—that’s all. Arizona is not saying the feds have too much power, they’re saying the feds don’t use enough power in regards to the border. Anyone who supports Brewer needs to wake up and realize this.
what a joke… I dont have the time to write all of the bullshit that I believe is nothing but…. I just wish people would get their heads out of their asses and wake the fuck up!! just let people live… if they are not fuckin with you then back the hell up!! worry bout your damn self and your kids!! maybe they won’t smoke dope if so! so sick of it!!!!
I see a positive edge to this. She is pressuring the federal government to evaluate it’s role in state rights. If it steps in it risks angering a lot of people and whoever backs the initiative would have a shadow over them. If the government is capable (and I have full faith in the progress our union) it will recognize the growing trend and remember the diversity of states and their ideas of freedom. Then the leadership of Arizona will have to answer to the people.
I hear A.C.L.U is help defending AZ.law in court
and a few other groups. Article is in the ‘Phx. New Times’ .
It’s grossly apparent that – it’s government’s intent and purpose to win a victory over the desire and intentions of We the People. However – it’s also grossly apparent that We the People are intent to tell government to “FUCK OFF” – and – “That’s the way it is in the big city.” Is our arrogance equal to theirs? You bet your ass it is!
Here’s a bit on Ms. Brewer from Wikipedia:
“The Brewer administration has also been investigated by KPHO for hiring Chuck Coughlin and Paul Senseman, both lobbyists for Corrections Corporation of America, as a policy advisor and communications director.[39] Although Coughlin continues work as both a lobbyist and policy advisor, Senseman no longer does work for CCA. CCA operates six private, for-profit prisons in Arizona.[40] ”
Here’s the KPHO story, including a description of tens of thousands of dollars in campaign money from Corrections Corporation. http://www.kpho.com/news/24834877/detail.html
So Ms. Brewer is working to keep marijuana illegal and is at the same time hiring staff from a very large, for-profit prison corporation and taking campaign money from them? The AZ campaign finance site is at http://www.azsos.gov/cfs/CampaignFinanceSearch.htm but it’s not working for me; can anybody go in and see how much Ms. Brewer has taken from the prison industry? Is that really the government that we want… run by the prison companies?
The State of Arizona already handicapped our medical marijuana law by passing HB 2541. This established a database whereby employers can register and see everyone’s name that has a medical marijuana card. That way, they can see if their employees have them and invent a reason to fire them. Thought your medical records were private? Nope! For everyone that thinks Brewer is pressuring the feds on states’ rights, I hate to break this to ya, but it ain’t so. Brewer is trying to gut this law—already has to some extent, since MMJ patients are now “outed” to their employers—by stalling the dispensaries though the wishy-washy crap she knows she’ll get from the feds.
Do I blame Obama? Of course! The guy is a liar. But I blame Brewer more. I live here in this ersatz police state. I know what Brewer is capable of.
Correction: The employer registry of HB 2541 only allows them to view individual cardholders when the ID card number is provided. In other words, to see if, after a random drug test, the employee is, in fact, legally allowed to use cannabis. (THEN they’ll fire the employee, LOL!) But it allows an employer to fire an employee just for “good faith” (i.e. without solid proof) that the employee was impaired by ANY substance. Yeah, all the boozers, prescription drug users, OTC cough medicine users, and insomniacs thought they were safe and only the “potheads” were going to be busted. Surprise, surprise! Absolute power affects everyone absolutely.
1. There used to be – and – may still exist – “Black Listing Laws.” And – what happened to Doctor/Patient confidentiality?
2. If any one thinks they are building prisons to hold cannabis users – guess again. They’re building prisons to hold political prisoners – and – the pot users are “just paying the rent” until everyone is branded an enemy of the state. They’re also building “Residences” for families regarded as the “enemy.”
3. Does anybody play chess. What’s their next move – and – what’s your next move [x5]?
I love my country, my constitution, and any one who supports both. I love my government – but – not the faction that has high jacked both. I guess I will be the first one to admit that I am an enemy of the present state of affairs.
Manford Mantis
Genesis – San Diego Colony.
This mornings news said that Governor Jan Brewer wants to know if they are breaking any federal laws by creating the medicinal marijuana law? There was also a story about a guy who has spent over $400K investing into a dispensary, that now won’t be opening. I can’t wait to see how many law suits will open up against the state of AZ for violating some sort of law? I think that they may have opened up a whole can of worms that they really shouldn’t be messing with!
Well, the first petition was denied today for a dispensary permit, and they immediately filed suit against the state. Worms + Can= Opened!
Are you aware the DEA just licensed 55 pharmaceutical companies to grow pot? MSN money is running a story (“Could legal pot give Big Pharma a much-needed high?”) that,
“Just last week, the Drug Enforcement Administration said 55 unnamed companies have been granted licenses to grow cannabis in the United States. Observers say the pharmaceutical companies need the pot farms to cultivate weed so they can produce a generic version of the THC pill Marinol, which is marketed by Watson Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (WPI ), and at least one other cannabis-based pill for a wide variety of new uses.
But to grow pot and put organic THC and CBD in pills, the DEA to would need to move organic THC down from Schedule I to the far less restrictive Schedule III, where synthetic THC Marinol currently resides. That’s exactly what drug companies have requested. And by all indications, their wish is likely to be granted.”
In other words, if big corporations grow dope with the government and put it in a pill, it’s medicine. But if you grow it at home or at a dispensary and then put it in a vaporizer, it’s a felony. If they suspect you, they break down your door shoot you 20 times and accuse you of being a drug dealer as happened to a Marine veteran in Tucson recently.
http://money.msn.com/top-stocks/post.aspx?post=44407b1b-e13c-43f3-8ac4-1b01edebbea5
[Paul Armentano responds: The source of this story were some purposely misleading e-mails sent to David Downs at the East Bay Express by DEA. There may be several licensed entities to produce generic formulations of Marinol (Valeant Pharmaceuticals and Par Pharmaceuticals already have these), but there is only ONE single licensed manufacturer (ElSohly/UMISS) that may legally produce cannabis. DEA’s Michelle Leonhart actually confirmed that there’s only one federal grow license (Elsohly’s), and that there can be only one federal grow license, when she on behalf of DEA rejected the Judge Bittner’s decision in Craker v DEA in 2009. Leonhart wrote, “I have determined that Respondent’s proposed registration is inconsistent with United States obligations under the Single Convention and with the public interest. … Respondent’s … goal of ending the Federal Government’s monopoly on the wholesale distribution of marijuana can not be squared with the requirement under the Convention that there be precisely such a monopoly.”
“I have determined that Respondent’s proposed registration is inconsistent with United States obligations under the Single Convention and with the public interest. … Respondent’s … goal of ending the Federal Government’s monopoly on the wholesale distribution of marijuana can not be squared with the requirement under the Convention that there be precisely such a monopoly.”
The American people have unanimously determined that Michelle Leonhart is inconsistent with the public interest and defiant with the will of the people. Leonhart knows absolutely nothing about public interest. Had her re-appointment been voted on by the people – she would have been down the road – baggage in hand. She should know that her opinion reflected in her statement is as about as worthless as tits on a bull. What does the Single Convention Rule have to do with state sovereignty laws. Sovereign states do not abide by United Nations laws anymore than they do with federal law. They do, happily however, abide by “our” Constitutional obligation, which allows for state control of substances. California, for instance, has told the feds they “will not” enforce federal law.
Remember to get off the couch and show up at the polls. Use the Donalds famous words YOUR FIRED! We
have spoken its time to go forward. We are the people
and we do have the power to move forward. You’re going
to have to decide weather we want to support the U.S.
or Mexico. People have been using herb in this country
for centuries. Who is the governement who thinks that
is can control mans desire to change his or her state of mind
Hmmmm….the “public interest”. So, we can’t afford Medicare and Social Security obligations—they’re not “entitlements”, they’re obligations—towards the people who pay and have paid into them. But we can afford this insane “War on Drugs”. We can afford the billions down various ratholes in enforcement, incarceration, and all the other wastes of money. Wow. Where exactly is the public’s “interest” in that? Funny how when it comes to doing something for the people, the feds whine that they don’t have any money. But if it’s war or police power, suddenly, they find the money. Probably because they’re using the money that’s supposed to go for Medicare and Social Security!
86. Max Lyubinsky
If everybody that has raided social security – would pay it back – I don’t think Soc. Sec. would be in any trouble. We should find out who still owes Soc. Sec and turn them over to a collection agency for immediate payment in full. Pay – or – dig a hole!
I’m not seeing the hypocrisy between the two issues mentioned. In the first issue, she’d love federal clarification but knows it’ll never come because no one wants to piss off the Latina demographic. In the second issue, she can expect a timely federal clarification. So she acted for the people’s interest in the first issue, and feels she’s still acting for the people’s interest in getting the answer of legality before they get in trouble.
Another instance where the government feels that they and their underlings are the chosen ones. She would put thousands of medical patients at imminent risk so not to risk any government worker no matter how little it is. I bet she could find volunteers to distribute the medical cards.
I think every single dispensary owner needs to file suit against the state! Maybe then they won’t kick this to the back burner and drag their feet on the issue. So far I’ve seen three other states pass this law and already have opened stores. AZ has a tendency to keep passing things, then making up ways to slow it down or stop it before it comes into law. They should’ve figured these issues out prior to passing it, not waiting till it’s already a law! I feel sorry for the people trying to open stores and are stuck paying the bills with no income!
I am retired and live in a non med state. I looked hard at Arizona as a place to live. The cost of living is more affordable for seniors. There are good medical facilities in metro areas and the weather is good. Florida has become hostile to seniors and cannabis users. The first thing that disturbed me about Arizona was the number of dispensaries and the 25 mile halo. If there is a dispensary in each town with sufficient facilities for seniors the only areas where you can legally cultivate your own medicine will be in open desert far from doctors and basic needs.
Seniors are the fastest growing part of the population that can benefit most from Medical Cannabis. But Arizona will force them to purchase Cannabis from dispensaries that they will not be able to afford on a restricted income. Thus with that one provision Arizona has become hostile to seniors, the disabled and others that cant work because of their illnesses. Now with the governor doing what she is doing I and thousands of other seniors have to look elsewhere for affordable homes where we are free to cultivate our own medicines.
“I believe in the will of the people,” Brewer said, even though she personally opposed the initiative. “Unfortunately, with this piece of legislation, there are some pretty serious consequences if we don’t get them resolved,” she continued. “And I, as governor, am not willing to put those people at risk.”
Instead, our governor’s actions encourage Rogue Vigilantes on the Police Force in Gilbert to roust medical marijuana patients and to attack compassion centers. They killed a war hero in Tucson because they suspected he had marijuana and money only to find neither. Our governor is a vicious, vindictive old woman that goes out of her way to deceive others. She is addicted to attacks on those less fortunate than herself to try to divert attention from her failure to remedy the real problems of our state such as falling real estate prices and the lack of jobs.
If the rest of the voters in Arizona cannot see through this woman’s words to her real intent that is revealed in her actions then I suppose we deserve a governor like this. She prefers half full strip malls that might house dispensaries and apparently does not need the millions of tax dollars that are generated in surrounding states by dispensaries. I expect that next she will attack those on medicaid and that she will go after old people as neither of these groups is very good at protecting themselves. UNTIL DISPENSARIES ARE LICENSED, DO NOT COME TO THE VOTERS IN ARIZONA TO ASK FOR TAX INCREASES!
Your absolutely correct C Lloyd! I my self am disabled and have actually considered moving across the river to CA. California has it’s own share of issues in this matter. When it comes to benefits, and medical needs they are a little more willing to help people.
Dave K, it’s funny you mentioned the medicaid here in AZ. I just heard on the news the other day that they are actually trying to put a halt on new applications for Ahcccs “medicaid”. Not only that but if your on it already, and get canceled for some reason “which happens”, Your done, you will no longer be allowed to reapply. I myself am disgusted with the way things are going here in AZ.
This Governor is about as bright as a 5 watt light bulb. The People of Arizona have twice oked Medical Marijauna and yet the Governor and the state authorities have turned over heaven and earth to void the Law. And you really think you have Freedom here?
Freedome stops the instant the will of the People is voided by anyone……………………
Well this is how I see it. I am disabled, I have PTSD have been seeing Doctors since 1989. I am tired and in pain 24/7, my mind is driveing me nutts and the Govener whats to stop the law. Well in the long run she will loose. Now for the good stuff so there will be no dispensairies, means more people grow there owen and more comes up from Mexico, people will go back on pills and OD alot to make the pain go away (I know I have been there) so no law more police busting people for pot and the states pay the bill for people in jill. So people that don’t grow by it off the street and no tax money for the state. So no law no legail pot more crime people getting killed from the pot comming up from Mexico. People suffer or do it anyway. So no law the govenor wins becuse for real she dose not like it and the state spends more money on the police tring to stop people from doing pot. So get real govenor.
The governor stated that she was too busy campaigning for reelection to properly “fight” this battle. So.. the voters DID reelect her. They also passed their safe access legislation. I am fine with Governor Brewer calling the voters stupid for passing the MMJ legislation. That’s her opinion. Does she believe the same morons who voted for medical marijuana are enlightened constituents when choosing their leaders?
Governors are paid to execute the laws the voters pass. If Queen Brewer can’t handle that simple responsibility, maybe it’s time for her to abdicate her throne.
In Arizona we have a habit of electing people who really should not be in public office. We have indicted two recent governors and removed them from office. We also have a history of others in state government overturning the will of the people through the actions of the legislature. We had to pass a voter initiative after we passed the first medical marijuana initiative to prevent our legislature from continuing to overturn voter initiatives.
Our second medical marijuana initiative was overturned by the courts since it required a doctor’s “prescription” rather than a “recommendation.”
I’d like to suggest to the people of Arizona that it is unfortunate but that we need to pass a voter initiative that makes it a felony for any state official, including the governor and the attorney general to fail to inact any voter passed initiative in our state. If the state of Arizona can indict and give adults a felony record for small amounts of marijuana I do not think that anything less than a felony would convey the strong conviction that our laws eminate from the people and that an individual or small group of individuals cannot overturn the will of the people by a whim or concern of what might happen.
Your property is valueble for me. Thank you!?-
I was going to retire here ( slightly east of the border ) but I am sad to report that I believe I MUST get back across the border to CA. Felonies for marijuana? Are you effin’ kidding me? This area has the worst primary educational scores, the highest unemployment rate, and the least tolerance in the United States. Jeez! Here is a revolutionary business model.. Treat the FEW citizens who vote and pay tax here just a BIT better than terrorists! Leave us alone and spend my taxes fixing ANYTHING really broken.
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