The federal government, notably under the current administration, continues to paint itself into a corner politically speaking regarding Mr. Obama’s pre-election promises to ‘fix the problem with medical marijuana’.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) issued a memorandum on September 21 to all gun dealers in the United States for the expressed purpose of informing them that they MUST discriminate against lawful medical cannabis patients and DENY them their Second Amendment right to buy and possess a firearm for hunting and/or personal protection.
The feds newest ‘clarifying’ memo regarding medical cannabis (proceeding the 2009 Ogden and 2011 Cole memos) is notable because members of NORML’s Legal Committee recently have been successfully challenging local and state law enforcement officials who’ve chosen to discriminate against lawful medical cannabis patients by denying them permits for a concealed weapon.
Why is it OK and does it make any sense at all for lawful medical patients who are prescribed powerful painkillers and sedatives to be able to enjoy their Second Amendment rights and responsibilities, but medical cannabis patients who want to hunt or have self-protection in their homes are overtly discriminated against by our own federal government?
This new ATF memo will provide an interesting test to see if the National Rifle Association really does support citizens’ rights to bear arms.
Whatever country this is, it is no longer the United States of America that I know.
Well, Mr. St. Pierre….what do we do now? What is with this madness? Can this be challenged?
ludicris, I have legal Morphine in amounts that would kill most people , so I can function. Never mind I can get stinking drunk if I was so inclined and own a gun.
But mis a safe natural plant in the mix that makes me mellow and I cant. I think they need to smoke come bud and find out what they are so afraid of.
2nd Amendment rights? ATF must have read it as “Double Standard” or “Second Class Citizen” rights.
Corruption and Conspiracy go hand in hand. With the overwhelming population of americans accepting and supporting legalization, especially in light of the Proven economic and agricultural benefits (Among many others), its blatantly obvious that there are hidden and sinister motives that run much deeper than simply “””Protecting the American People from an EEEvil Natural Substance”””(Triple quoties for max sarc and mock effect).
Anyone paying attention to the “Fast and Furious” scandal can easily conclude that our govt is fueling its own “”War on Drugs”” (Not that we need any correlative cases to see that our govt is as corrupt and rotten as a 5-day dead skunk in a blender).
Its profitable for them and the true amount of money they confiscate (Steal) is next to impossible to track or account for for anyone outside the loop.
Prohibition will only end once enforcing such ridiculous laws becomes a loss to the ridiculous agencies enforcing them.
“As long as Law Enforcement is a Profitable Business, Injustice Will Prevail”
Marijuana should not be illegal in the first place. I have to wonder has anybody in the feeral government to even know how marijuana effects a person. Marijuana don’t make you hallucinate. You wouldn’t shoot somebody because you thought that person was a bear,deer, or wolf. For them to assume that it is not safe for somebody smoking marijuana to own a gun is just absurbed. I would love for somebody from the feds to sit down in front of me and smoke a joint and then really tell me what they really think about marijuana. I need someone to tell me really what is wrong with marijuana except for you go to jail or prison for possessing it. It is time to to stop this nonsense and legalize and regulate marijuana already.
Raise your hand if you voted for Obama..then go set in a corner with a pointed hat.
get the word out via twitter. Spam out that phone number… we have forced congressmen to take their phones off the hook, we can push back on this with sheer numbers too.
Would somebody please slap me to wake me up! I’ve been having a terrible nightmare for decades now. It must be a bad dream, there’s no way this is reality,I dreamed our government can kick my door down for even thinking they smell something,I dreamed they said I can’t work anymore, I dreamed they could take my house,property,kids,car,and freedom. I even dreamed they can take my firearms away so I can’t even hunt or defend myself or family.Somebody please slap me so I can wake up from this terrible nightmare…
Becuase you lie about something for 7o some years does not make it right, It is still a lie!…..Who wants to live with a govt that lie’s to you you?
This is ridiculous, and the letter is about as Kafka-esque as imaginable.
But I’m also concerned about the apparent attack on our right to wear short-sleeved shirts as implied in the post tags. How long must the sleeves be?
I didn’t even have to read this post to realize that it’s just another ploy to disarm us and protect themselves by doing it. This has nothing to do with cannabis – and – everything to do with accomplishing their 2012 agenda of the take over of America. At this point in time – cannabis should get in the back seat – and – leave the driving to our freedom, out country and our Constitution. Don’t get caught up in this shell game the Luciferians are constantly playing in every area. It’s drawing near – the clock is ticking.
Some dickhead signed that and believes it?
Earth to Feds: Your drug war is an epic-fail. Period.
Hey man, they don’t want something (cannabis/hemp) to be legal. Way to many products the cannabis plant can replace, cheaper; like 50k and counting. Big corrupt money looking out for itself. Wake up folks, going to take more than bs talk. Cannapeace
No remember our gov sends all the guns to mexico. so the violence remains awful they call it job security..And then they will cover it up..But thats ok cause they are the gov….WHAT A JOKE THIS COUNTRY IS BECOMING…and we have the best gov chinas money can buy…don’t understand lmao…bunch of dumbass’es…
wh.gov/gv5
Total B.S! Obama you don’t have my vote! NOBAMA
My take on this is that the administration is basically saying “We don’t like your kind and as far as we are concerned you are fair game for the real criminals”. It is predjudice pure and simple! It has absolutely nothing to do with a marijuana user being dangerous just because they have a gun; at least, surely, they aren’t that friggin’ stupid – but then again maybe some of them are…
Revolution is in the air. This government is supposed to be REPRESENTATIVE of the people, not the other way around.
It occurs to me that maybe we didn’t win the war against Hitler and that, in fact, the nazis won and are really the ones calling the shots; them and their offspring. This is clearly not the America I thought I was fighting for when I joined the Marines as a young man when I graduated from high school! Seriously, WTF is wrong with the leaders of this country? After this, my hopes for a positive response regarding all of the marijuana related petitions is terribly weakened. Once again, whoever is in charge has no intention of changing their evil ways.
wow, I’m not a big gun person, but I know when my rights are getting trampled, I don’t understand how this is even constitutional, what happens if you already own a gun are you already in violation of the law lol. They keep trying to fight us, only a matter of time. Obama listen to the people man,
Just want to add my .02.
First, its a license. Just sayin.
Second… the fed is absolutely ridiculous. All this after they used our tax money to buy guns which went directly into mexican drug cartel hands. They were then used to kill our officers who directed the transaction and thousands of innocent mexican citizens.
I honestly thing this whole “plan” backfired. I think they wanted to “prove” that guns are evil and can only be used for bad. I carry daily and… well… lets just say I cant wait for 2012.
I guess its a good thing my state isn’t medical..otherwise I wouldn’t be holding my rifle with a joint in my mouth. Fuck the government. Bring it bitches.
Allright this truly getting scary
I’m thinking we are up against a bunch of mean drunks
That just want to keep all the power
Wow…Its actually desparate, contradictory, BS.
Big surprise. Once again, just dole out psych meds(that do not work and cause aggression in some) like candy that cause what they are inaccurately trying to stop. BTW I know of “patients” that are on way more dangerous FDA approved substances and they have guns. Just see through the lies and keep up the pressure.
Also, commenter: Corrupt? Anyone? you are on target.
“As long as Law Enforcement is a Profitable Business, Injustice Will Prevail”
Legalize and stop the petty lies.
It’s a good thing rednecks never drink themselves stupid and then shoot each other accidentally. Because then the DOJ would have a bit of a logic problem on its hands.
The only problem with Medical Marijuana is it’s not available to the people that need it.
They can pry my gun from my cold dead fingers but I’d like to see them take my bong! HaHa Fuck you feds. You get use to being a second class citizen you know? Of course there are a lot of us here in this country. It’s the way they’ve engineered the system. Now, where can I buy a great big fucking machine gun before they make them illegal again.
so be sure to answer no on question 11.e on ATF form 4473 when you buy your guns
keep your private medical history to yourself
The booze swilling tobacco sucking moralistic bozos are at it again.
Ill go sit in the corner. I’m amazed,but not shocked that obama is being such a lame duck, choosing to ignore facts and the will of the people.I am ashamed that i voted for him, and ill tell you this, IM VOTING FOR RON PAUL/or Gary johnson,hopefully they will END THE BULLSHIT
NONSENSE
This is just sick. Sick.
I am a proud member of the NRA and a cannabis consumer.
So what happens now?
Since when does Big Government, Demo or GOP, care about the US Constitution? It’s been raped by both sides for so long that it’s a wonder that the original document has not crumbled into dust in disgust.
I’m actually starting to get f’ing pissed off.
Federal goverment is a jerk, all of them. WE the people don’t care what you have to say, Federal goverment. Don’t you people have better things to do??? Like terrorism, isn’t that high on your list, so why are you interfering in our lives???? Do YOUR job and that is to keep out of ours!
We say that the drug war is a failure because it has not stopped the supply or demand for drugs. Perhaps we are actually misunderstanding the true goals of the drug war.
On the other hand, if the goals of the drug war are protection of corporate profits (i.e. Big Pharma), maintaining tax free black market profits with which to corrupt and intimidate our politicians, and providing authorities with a tool to oppress minorities and “trouble makers”, then the drug war has been a smashing success.
so just how long is it going to be before the atf hires 100’s of new agents to sit in front of a computer and starts cross referancing state registration data banks for people who appear both in the medical mj and gun registration data banks? i hate to bring this up but after reading this memo i can only imagine that is what will come next and thousands of law abiding citizens will be prosecuted for some make believe b.s. charges– has the legal medical mj buisness taken away enough of the govmnt’s free money that they see this as a good way to force medical mj patients back to the illegal market for the govmnt sponsered weed.
this kinda crap is exactly why i choose not to sell everything i own and move to a medical state— there is always something new popping up to screw with legal lawabiding citizens over the medical mj
how many drunks own guns?? and thats ok but people who smoke/vaporize/eat a weed that makes people happy,hungery,and sleepy can’t– i am so embarrased of what this country has become that if i had the money to i would just leave america and never look back!!!
The coming police state in diversified America one ‘group’ at a time.
The legal term for this is selective enforcement. This edict should be immediately challenged in court and I believe, overturned. In the mean time, I’ll grab my arsenal and a few cases of booze and go hunting!
Time to rise up citizens and execute the powers of the constitution! Our forefathers wrote the bill or rights, the constitution and the early amendments to address this exact state of affairs in the country. Our rights are being taken away from us one by one and the gov’t is distancing itself from the real American public more and more every single day. Our cause at NORML is simply a drop in the bucket of injustice that has finally begun to spill over.
Great, so if we use Cannabis legally sanctioned by our state, we can’t form an armed uprising to make any other progress.
Thanks for protecting me from myself by protecting you from me.
Let me see if I understand this; It is ok for the ATF to sell assault weapons to the drug cartels, but American business’s can’t sell small arms to American citizens for protection of life and property. What a load of CRAP! Wonder what the Superme Court would have to say about that? I can only hope that there is a POTUS staffer out there that reads these comments, Because if there is……. you need to remind your boss that there is 25 million voting Americans that hold this issue dear to them. And he only won by 9 million votes. It is time for our elected officials to grow a pair, and end this madness.
Nauseous! Anyone who thinks this is acceptable needs a crash course in American history. Our founding fathers would be refused their right to purchase guns… Weird. Who does this “Arthur Herbert” think he is? Seriously. What gave him the right to decide what is best for us? Down with him, and who ever he is affiliated with (because I know he isn’t acting on his own). This is outrageously unrighteous!
Let’s go get hammered and go to the firing range… it seems like that is the better alternative from ATF’s point of view… again… weird, VERY weird.
Obama does not control every action the FEDS take. The Republicans are very much alive and well on Capital Hill. This sounds like a Republican crafted and written statement. This law has been on the BOOKS and the Republicans have every legal right to use it. This is nothing new. The fact that State Laws allow Marijuana—DOES NOT MAKE MARIJUANA LEGAL UNDER FEDERAL LAW. Anything and everything that is illegal under Federal Laws will remain illegal under Federal Laws until the Federal Laws are changed. The Republicans will use every tactic that they can to keep marijuana illegal. Even tactics of threatening the President of the United States—- that if he doesn’t send out certain letters and memos, that he is officially breaking Federal Laws against the United States for not doing so. The Republicans are tricky bastards. Just because you see a memo—even with Obama’s signature—that does not mean it is a memo that he supports. It could be a memo typed up by the Republicans followed up with demands and threats that it be signed and carried out by the President or face legal actions for not following the Presidential OATH to uphold all Federal Laws. Would the Republicans do this to the President???—-You BETCHA!!!
Sarah Palin admits to smoking marijuana, but she doesn’t think it should be legalized at ANY LEVEL—–DIRECT QUOTE BY SARAH PALIN—–> NOT EVEN FOR MEDICAL USE!!! Sarah Palin says shes a BIG LOVER of DARK CHOCOLATE!!! She says she can get the BLACK VOTE—She says that while she may not be BLACK—She has had BLACK IN HER!!!
That’s right . We’re living in the times of Lucifer and all those sinners who spew out lies out of their fithy mouths & deceive you the people have all joined hands with the master of deception, Satan himself & know nothing of any
afterlife .Muslims, Islam, Jews or Christians . All faiths know that our mighty God is watching you .
fithy = filthy .
it states ANY CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE that would take in all levels. Now if people need these pills to make life so called closer to normal or even to be able to work they are addicted to them and should not be able to get guns or ammo either under this law. this would make alot more people mad. We the 99% need to take back are country from the 1% that are running it.
These people are nuts! Do they honestly expect that anyone who is diagnosed with a qualifying medical condition that would give up their guns if their doctor recommends medical marijuana? Kinda makes you want to join the NRA so you can tell them that they can have my guns when “They take them from my cold, dead, hands.” The attempt by our government to set up an apartheid like system to make anyone accused of smoking marijuana into second class citizens that lose their rights to organ transplants, student loans, public housing, food stamps, public monetary assistance and now the right to defend yourself is ludicrous. This form of tyranny must be resisted by all who consider themselves to be free citizens. Can someone please tell me how this is different from being called a Jew in Hitler’s Germany or a Black in South Africa during their heyday?
You say you want a revolution, well you know…
We all want to change the world…….
You say you’ll change the Constitution, well you know..
Guess we’ll have a link soon for this new reason for another petition?
i’ll be glad to give them my guns, bullets first.
The Controlled Substance Act of 1970 was quickly passed into law with no medical review including the FDA. Then the late former president Richard M. Nixon created the DEA to support that law that he and the late Attorney General, John N. Mitchell have originated and written.
It became the unstoppable virus that is politically destroying the United States with its cult-like hatred and propaganda provided by the marijuana prohibitionist movement of the late 1980’s.
Doesn’t really matter, this only effects gun dealers. Theres a loop-hole called “private sale” that will help us circumnavigate this issue.
I’m in awe of marijuana’s amazing power to make governments paranoid.
I would be nervous having a gun laying around while drunk and blacked out, but while smoking… come on. Im a college student and i can tell you from a lot of experience alcohol gets me in way worse situations and more trouble than smoking.
Haha, who cares what the government says. The government is the biggest hypocrite in all matters since it broke pretty big laws during the American Revolution.Remember kids, smoke weed everyday.
This is what happens right before they start to round people up.
This is big news. Why does the mainstream media refuse to cover any of this?
i wonder would the real challenge be getting the majority of the people to be more outspoken about this issue (legalization) or is the real challenge going to be industries (alch,tob,paper,rope,oil,pharm) who may be totally threatened by the idea and are able to keep hush on the issue by throwing massive amounts of money into it behind closed doors. just a thought……
We can all take some comfort knowing Obama has only 13 months left as our President before he gets voted out. It may be worse with a Republican in office, but at least you know what to expect from them. Obama totally blindsided us.
Here’s something I don’t understand; When is having a recommendation against the law? If someone goes to a gun seller and tries to use his Medical Marijuana card as I.D., that dosen’t sound like a very smart idea to me, but neither do I believe that it’s against the law to have one. A recommendation isn’t proof that the card holder has ever used ANY substance deemed by the federal government to be illegal.
I can’t wait to see how the NRA handles this one! HAHAHA.
Are they scared we will start a war with them if they dont give us our freedom? They better be…..I’m tired of this crap…
If they dont watch it they will have another civil war on their hands…….
Shitty government….
This is bullshit! We have a second amendment. Challenge this in court!
I look at this issue differently. Cannabis is illegal to buy and possess for most of us but we do it anyway. So what if they want to make buying a gun illegal for cannabis patients. Do any of you actually abide by that law? Do anyone of us think this will stop reasonable people from arming them selves? There are so many ways to acquire weapons you can’t count them all. This is the most heavily armed nation in the world. This only serves to move more voters to someone else.
This is a simple matter of right vs. wrong. Right is a concept that, like gravity, can not be altered by judicial finding, legislative decree or act of tyranny. Right will always be right and wrong will always be wrong. They can bend my will, they can even break my spirit but all the power they can muster can NEVER make me wrong.
Congratulations again, your petition has over 42,000 signatures.
In my search for ‘102’ in Section 802 of the unofficial version of the CSA at the DEA website, what I found was about telemedicine. Federal firearms licensees are practicing telemedicine?
I also searched for ’16’ and found the definition of marijuana. Yup, it’s there. I invite you to see this petition (using the expanded URL format) and sign it:
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/%21/petition/re-legalize-cannabis-amending-section-802-item-16-definition-marijuana-controlled-substances-act/W0p6ZfFP?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
The short version is http://wh.gov/gMD
The people who wrote that shit are sick.
Ok to show up for a firearms license with alcohol on your breath from the night before, but folks that want to peacefully enjoy their civil liberties that are guaranteed under the constitution are turned away??
Something really stinks here, and it is not smoke, it is the fire of lies, and deceit.
Never underestimate the will of the people…….this shit will not stand the test of time.
So, Attorney General Eric Holder, please tell me again that the ‘War on (Some) Drugs’ is NOT a ‘War on People’. The first thing any Tyrant does when attaining absolute power is to disarm the People.
How many of those many (millions?) of People who have been disenfranchised by a simple arrest for marijuana possession are minority or otherwise statistically likely to vote for progressive politicians?
How is this different than the extensive ‘voter caging’ that went on in Florida leading up to the 2000 national election, thanks to Gov. Jeb Bush and his neo-fascist Secretary of (FL) State, K. Black?
Slavery and indentured servitude have been replaced by private for-profit prisons, and the industries they service. ‘Red’ China has their slave labor camps, as do We. But We imprison a far larger percentage of our population than the Chinese do.
USA is Number 1! What a proud-to-be-American moment … NOT!
I finally understand why the hippies in the 60s called cops “pigs”.
I just wanted to say like every other person. This is complete and total bs. I can’t believe what the states and federal levels have pressured to the adverage american people. They out law anything that they feel that they cannot gain total and complete control over. I have to say this is a pitifull day for the adverage mmj user in a medical state. Also like others have said all you have to say is no to 11.e. Its not like we are all federally registered as medical patients. Sure if we had our paperwork all noted and our recomendations in hand we would stick out like a sore thumb. But as individuals and singles their is little that they can do. But if they really want to try I say we the people of america WILL GIVE THEM A RUN FOR THEIR FUCKIN MONEY!
O kay boys are u ready to start the war. I am
@68 – You wonder why this isn’t in the mainstream news; well so do I! I’m starting to think that they’re controlled by our oppressive Govt! I’m pretty sure it’s all part of their master plan to control us (the misfits of society). Then, they’ll be free to drink and smoke their cigarettes knowing that we’re not out there somewhere getting high.
Seriously, I’m starting to think we are witnessing the fall of the American Empire.
IF ANYONE claims that Cannabis has no Medical value… just show them this video and the REAL truth…. he he because of the laws in the state I live in.. it comes right down to being illegal for me to stand
This video shows the real thruth.. and I have all kinds of medical reports that say I’m sick and I didnt even have to wait for disability .. so sick it was awarded to me right way…..
http://youtu.be/BnAGOoxb6zM
One question that hasn’t been asked is if this new ruling (it’s not a law, just BATFE’s opinion) also pertains to patients who have been prescribed the synthetic THC drug Marinol.
Same drug, different delivery method. Should different rules pertain?
Regrettably, the Obama Administration does not have the courage to reschedule Cannabis under the Controlled Substances Act. This is, of course, brought to you by the same Administration who supported “Operation Fast and Furious,” where American assault weapons are now in the hands of Mexican drug cartels.
Screw these authorataian fuckups! I think its time to bring back the term ‘PIGS’.
Theres a storm on the horizion and it wont be good for those who lust for power over the people.
Oh and yes. As #62 says, private sales and no registration…..fuckin pigs.
…And as my usename suggests….this aint!
I suggest all these fucks get dumped on an Island so they can form thier own hell to live in.
These are close minded fools. The whole idea of trying something new reguarding this drug war is a moot subject to them.
When things ARENT working in a company, dont you want some out of the box thinking to solve the problems? Yes. The drug war ,as we all know,isnt working. Where then hell is the out of the box thinking?!
Oh ya, everytime there is some out of the box thinking, they make laws to keep you in that box. the more the thinking, the more the laws. lawing us all right out of freedom. No wonder this country is stagnating.
So, why not try something new. These people tell America changing policy to a regulated market could have a negitive impact on society…”COULD”. Ya ok . like the drug war hasent? They had no idea of the impact this drug war would have on this country…and the world….or did they.Yet they instituted prohibition II anyway.
Oh ya, theres an example of policy harming society. Well what do ya know.Prohibition I.
They are close minded fools. Thats an argument they cant win.
Who’s next in line to be denied their Constitutional Rights, maybe dog owners, maybe people who commited small infractions, attended AAA meetings, or was seen on cameras defending 1st Amendment Rights. I seen a large sign on an American Indian Reservation saying, “America is not America anymore”, so Mr. Wayne LaPierre who is next in line before they come after you!
You want my gun, come get it. Lets get our illegal guns and our American flags made from hemp and remind our government why we have the right to keep and bear arms in the first place, to overthrow tyranny. Fuck the united police states of America! It sickens me to no end that this bullshit is what millions have bled for in a far away land. Our founding fathers would be pissed right now!
yes bob…another petition that i will gladly sign and speaking of petitions i recieved a email from norml asking my support for a il man convicted of some sort of marijuana realted charges almost 10 yrs ago of what they say hes been in over 9 yrs….i folowed the link to the we the ppl site and lent my vote for his release and urge that all reading this do the same. we must come together and unite to right all the wrongs done by what i see as unconstitutional…if we dont stand up they will lay us down and bury us
THIS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND DISTORTS THE DANGER LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS WITH ARRESTING PEOPLE FOR MARIJUANA ANOTHER PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A TOTAL DISREGARD FOR THE CONSTITUTION AND WHY BIG GOVERNMENT HAS TO BE STOP AND AMERICAN CITIZEN ALLOWED THE CIVIL LIBERTIES OR CONSTITUTION WAS WRITTEN TO PROTECT!!!!!!! VOTE FOR RON PAUL SUPPORT RON PAUL A TRUE CIVIL LIBERTARIAN THAT NEVER FLIP FLOPS THE ISSUES!!!! BlackThisOut.com GIVE NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh Gee, another UnConstitutional Law that we can ignore. One would think they would stop with the repression since so many of us do not give a damn what they say anyway.
Sovereign people have the right to defend themselves. Period.
RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2012
Here is how it works. They make it illegal by using scare tactics, lies, and logical fallicies. The CIA imports it, the banks launder the money and lease the aircraft, then their mafia friends open a “for-profit” prison system when people are caught with their product and decrease wages because the peaceful pot heads have to work for .25 an hour making widgets. That sounds like a conspiracy/corruption if I’ve ever heard of one… It’s a really good scam. Basically, they made it illegal so they could induce artificial scarcity there by artificially inflating prices so they could make crazy amounts of money and take in profits from the military industrial complex, illegitimate taxes, for-profit prisons, not to mention they use those very plants to make all of their toxic pharmaceuticals, which if you use them it will make things worse there by ensuring return customers to get drugs in order to cure the side effects.
Then they have the odacity to employ a false flag attack on Americans by claiming that we are the ones selling guns to the cartels so we should have our gun RIGHTS taken away… When in reality they used our taxes, again illegitimate in nature, to buy and give those guns to their cartels who invest into wall st so they can knock off competition.
I would like to advocate that good people start running for every position possible in their local governments to we can start to fix the problems and reign in the federal government/mafia. We don’t need a revolution we need to restore the constitution and lucky us our forefathers left us with the means to do so.
To answer the question of can we fight this? Yes, we absolutely can. The constitution states very clearly that our rights to bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED! It’s very simple. Vote Ron Paul, he is the ONLY one with a legitimate track record. Please don’t get depressed get angry and do something constructive. We can do this without anything crazy and within the system. Learn, Educate, act intelligently.
Buy weapons if you can, organize lad let’s hook’em up!
Here comes lawsuits against the Feds. What part of “shall not be infringed” don’t you understand?
This is a gun grab and blatant discrimination.
OBAMA OK’S SALES OF GUNS TO ILLEGAL DRUG USERS
Can’t you just see the headline now, of course not
I’m with 51, I can smell the Republicans all over this.
the pattern for the last 30 years has been the Republicans imagine some new infringment on civil liberties pertaining to MJ, and the Democrats have no other choice but to sign on to it. The only alternative is the above headline.
So, how is the Obama Administration, Holder’s DOJ and the ATF responding to all the “Fast and Furious” Black Op’s Congressional investigatory “heat”?
MORE GUN CONTROL & TRAMPLING ON STATES RIGHTS! This time via the back door…targeting not only legitimate “Medical Marijuana” card holders, but anyone who ever has even experimented with Weed (even if only once)or simply has applied for or holds a card (whether or not actually used).
Ah! How sweet for the tyrants to get “two birds with one stone”…create a “game-changer” in the Nixon instigated “War on Drugs” by an indirect attack on the various State’s “Medical Marijuana” programs AND “criminalizing” millions of peeps who have ever smoked weed (legitimate or otherwise, or even thought of using via simply applying for/holding a legitimate State MM Card) to justify confiscation of their “guns & ammo”, with the added benefit that they will never ever be able to “buy and/or possess” firearms & ammo ever again…just as though they are convicted felons or Foreign Nationals…or they will become convicted felons.
Definitely a page out of Hitler, Stalin & Mao’s play-books…What’s next, the forearm Tats, Gulags & “purging”?
Aahhh..another cival war. (sighs) One can only hope for such….. I don’t want it to come to that(ya know, violence; bloodshed)….but it seems the elites won’t be happy until they and their children are being heave-Ho’ed out of the highest window.?
I got to say, this one really shows how low our Gov. has sunk into the black hole of stupidity.They must really feel like they are loosing this war, to think that the most Peaceful people in the World,really as a whole,want or need to possess firearms.
Now if the Fed tried to keep alcoholics from possessing firearms, the NRA and the media would be freaking out.
The lack of logic that is being displayed by this Obama administration,the Drug Czar,and the DEA,makes me wonder if there is any hope at all that some day logic will prevail. LIFE LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.
I’m not giving up my guns without a fight
#83. I never stopped calling cops pigs.Every cop is a criminal too!
CRAZY………………………..
OBAMA CAN KISS MY MFin AZZ!
What part of the ATF’s memo makes any sense. Veterans who had their legs blown off in Iraq are sometimes recommended medical marijuana by Spinal Specialists to help control their pain, and spasms. Now according to the ATF those Vets cannot utilize their 2nd Amendment Rights to help protect themselves, and their families when they go home, but Mr. Obama can become President, and Chief Commander when he admitted more than once to smoking marijuana recreationaly, of which there are numerous pictures of him all over the internet with joints in his mouth doing so. Can the hypocrisy get any worse.
What this shows, is an objectively groundless mystical terror of cannabis on the part of the Establishment.
BTW — acknowledged somewhat off-topic — consider Establishment salami tactics against smokers of anything: They are closely comparable to Hitler’s infamous Nurenberg laws: As those laws aimed at driving Jewish folk out of German public life, so does anti-smoking effort per se aim at driving smokers of anything out of public life. Indeed, if the smoke-haters are successful against tobacco, watch them turn and come after us.
I am so so disappointed in the Obama Administration and its policy towards MM, or Cannabis in general. Okay, so Israel, our supposed good friend has come out with a study saying Cannabis DOES have medical value and will start producing thier own next year. HOW can our Government continue to say that Cannabis has no medical value when there are reports from all over the world to state otherwise and then the big push at the UN to try and stop the faild War on Drugs. Legalize it already. I tell my kids the Govt. lies about cannabis and other things. I am not sure how the Big Pharm lobbiests (sp) sleep at night. Holder is a puerco.
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So Whats Happens To The Firearms Dealers Who Are Medical Marijuana Patients? Is The Government Going To Step In And “Just Take” There Bunsiness? Just As They’ve Taken Away “Native American Land”. In The A.T.F. Memo It Says: “The Federal Government Does Not Recognize Marijuana As A Medicine”. The Federal Government Has Been Giving Away Free Medical Marijuana For Almost 30 Years. I Know Of A Gentleman Whos Been Receiving Medical Marijuana For 28 Of Thoses Years From The Federal Government. Can We Trust The Government? Sure, Just Ask An “American Indian”. Another Broken Promise By The Government. I Used To Think I Lived In The United States Of America, “Land Of The Free”, Im Not So Sure Now.
Wow. I love to see the feds taking angles on a the losing side. I’d love to see the NRA’s stance, not that I’ve ever supported that organization. I will, however, light one up 30 min before sunrise in my treestand on opening day. I’ve taken 30 or so deer, and probably 28 was with a light buzz.
This is an outrage, because those who are prescribed synthetic
heroin(pain pills) do not face this kind of treatment and can buy guns, yet prescribed
cannabis patients are to be denied in their respected states.
When will we just say enough is enough and petition the population to abolish this
corrupt unneeded department of the government(ATF). We got the FBI and the DOJ and other
departments, is the ATF really needed? Is the ATF just the governments army against the
citizens? Lets sever the governments Constitution destroying tentacles by getting rid of the
Fed reserve (private bankers that hijacked this country), ATF(murderers), and homeland
security(the gestapo) and watch one of two things happen: 1) The government come down hard
on the people to retain the power and control they worked so hard in achieving with our own
money! 2) The government is kept in check by us “WE THE PEOPLE” and things improve without
government nannies parenting us.
Only we the people can fix this country, relying on the officials in power will get us
nowhere! They are kept in check by the gov. only the people can keep the gov. in check!
When we yell loud enough to educate the people, the gov. propaganda will grow bigger to keep
the population fooled! We can at least scare the gov. fools into shaping up or shipping out!
Already they label the Tea party(I’m not a member) racist when no one has provided one video
or any kind of evidence of that being the case. Don’t you think if there was video evidence
it would be paraded all over the news or online. So they’ll use lies and propaganda against
anyone who wants the gov. to shape up or ship out! So labeling people racist to discredit
anyone who goes against this countries destroyers is a popular tactic they use against
constitutionalist. That shows they’re desperate and scared! Lets fight this! Undue the
brainwashing and expose the traitors, we can win! A hippocratic corrupt oppressive
government is a doomed government! Lets fix it and put it back on the right track to “For
the people, By the people, and Of the people” What we got right now is not liberty and
justice for all, its complete government dominate bullshit! Please send this to everyone you
know who give a shit about a free country!
From,
Somebody who gives a shit about this country
more bullshit.
122. Someone who gives a shit about this country.
June 1955.
I raised my right hand and swore an oath of allegiance – to defend my country against all enemies – foreign and “DOMESTIC.” I know who my enemies are, where they are, and what they are doing. Today – I reaffirm that oath of allegiance – and – state without contemplation or reservation that I will defend my country and its Constitution at all costs – “I swear to God as my witness.”
Wow,thats a steaming pile of wrong!
why dont obama bin laden explain this to the people who carry firearms to rob hurt and kill people to steal there marijuana, obama is a worthless piece of shit,the only reason he was elected was the fact he was black (nothing against afro americans or others) however people who voted for him never voted a day in there life ..WAY TO THROW YOUR VOTE AWAY) instead of electing who the american people pick,here is a tip DO THE EXACT OPPOSITE.
Legal medical cannabis users in California and other states should not worry. Right? Its legal and not addictive.
If there is anything that might almost be reassuring about this it is that this is the agency that cannot even control guns when they are in their direct possession. The 1400 guns that they lost track of are showing up in violent confrontations on both sides of the border and one was used to murder a border patrol agent earlier this year near Nogales, Arizona. One sherriff in Arizona has vocally stated in the media that he would like to see the agents responsible brought up on weapons sale charges. When the incident started to grow in the media the ATF actually promoted those responsible for the botched weapon sale. If these idiots come to Arizona and break the laws of my state, causing death and mayhem they should be in jail. When you cannot tell the difference between the behavior of the Federal Thugs and the behavior of the Drug Cartels it is time to abolish the agency. These bastards are evil!
No it’s not for anyone to say who can have rights and which ones. No money for my settlelment, just the end of prohibition on marijuana and we’ve got a deal.
.” – Albert Einstein quote on Hemp
“The illegality of cannabis is
outrageous, an impediment to full
utilization of a drug which helps
produce the serenity and insight,
sensitivity and fellowship so
desperately needed in this
increasingly mad and dangerous world.”
– Carl Sagan quote on Marijuana
OK, cigarettes kill more people than medical marijuana patients with guns. Shut the fuck up ATF. Nobody cares about your stupid insights.
When did the ATF gain the power to enact constitutional amendments via memoranda?
This goverment should get over its self and legelize marijuana! This is not about you, this is for patients that,are sick and know marijuana is the best meds for them. Who are you to say what we take or not take. Goverment should be ashame of them selves!
Why are you all surprised? Their stated goal is to reduce the use of marijuana. Since there is no scientific or rational reason for this, their goal is to hopefully scare you into stopping. They will keep piling it on. Legal or not. I believe their ultimate goal is not to stop marijuana, but keep certain parts of the public from being able to vote. Felons can’t vote! So don’t be shocked with anything they do. Even Obama is a bold face liar. He used us for our votes. So don’t be surprised at whatever they do. If you think all you have to do is vote, read about the electoral college. They vote the president not you.
They will keep changing the rules to suit teir needs. Complaining about laws or actions will do nothing.
The way to attack this is by exposing individuals. Take pictures of their bad behavior. Follow them to their favorite places. These folks have lots of dirty laundry. If we could start getting them in the news instead of us, there might be a chance. Watch for alcohol abuse,their drug abuse. If they cheat on us, who else are they cheating on? We need to take the fight to them instead of sitting and whining about it.
NEVER agree to a search!! Never admit guilt!! They love plea bargains. It gives them time and money to go after another victom. They leverage pleas because they know they cannot prosecute everyone. Expect everything they say to be a lie, because they train just for that. So fight the good fight and keep on truck’n.
our government has been using the war on drugs to keep gun crime high.Most of our gun crimes are gang related. What does one expect when 11 year old kids are selling them.Then we hear ban the guns,ban the guns.What are we doing to this country of ours?Also, with all the drug testing going on why doesn’t any of our elected leaders take them?Maybe we should get a petition together to mandate drug test for them.We all could enjoy drug test together,all of us ,not just the people.
It took one person to get the world to be complety out of even the thought but as a tax payer bizz owner and can not believe we our being treated worse then dogs Obama had he got cought smoking would never been the Pres but he didn’t get cought we the people should not have government law when it comes to our health choice that’s not there call it me n dr job the FDA puts bad drugs out everyday if they choice to keep this up what makes them think we will keep taking there BS there is no reason not to legalize n tax exepte big pharma
Isn’t the atf the ones who just got cought for selling arms to the drug cartel ya they really have no rights to me I don’t own a gun but that is my right we need to bring them to court for what they have done by waging war against us do we live n the USA or under dictatores throw them out take to the streets n start yelling for our rights we pay for all of this shit it would be better spent one fixing the USA but there 2year olds
There has to be some special interest group out there with massive amounts of political, and financial power griping, and not letting go of the immoral status quo regarding medical marijuana. Maybe L.E.A.P can give us some insight into who these unseen players actually are in this evil game against people, along with some addresses. Logic (Truths) vs The Status Quo (invisibles). Sooner or later their cloking devises are going to be lifted, and when it does, Pobrecita! until that happens the game is truly fixed in their favor.
SO THEY SELL GUNS TO THE CARTELS BRINGING THE SHIT UP, BUT IF YOU ARE AN AMERICAN WHOM USES YOU LOSE YOUR RIGHTS. screams conspiracy if you ask me.
i have carried a gun legally for 8 years and smoked everyday also and never once had an accidental miss fire or any accident nor have i ever wanted to shoot anybody this is fucking stupid. lets buy liquor and sell guns but not smoke and sell guns. hypocrisy at its best
With the Tea Party breaking away from the Republicans, this would be an excellent time to support the Green Party and maybe, finally, put an end to the two-party tyranny which currently rules. I decided not to vote Republican when Clinton ran and I was a straight Democrat through Obama’s election. After seeing how he completely disregarded his campaign promises, as they always do, I decided to never vote Democrat again, as well. The Green Party is my last hope for a return to True American values and they can’t even get into a legitimate public debate. If you want change threaten the entrenched political parties security. Vote Green or independent. Refuse to give a seat to a Democrat or Republican ever again.
How do I quit “America”. I will not and do not support any of its actions. Many I know would rather be dead than an American.
It gets better.
Up here in northern california the U.S. attorney’s office has been sending letters to the local medical marijuana clinics giving them 45 days to shut their doors, or their assets and records will be seized (no guarantee that this won’t happen anyway). Gotta wonder if this is going to turn into a federal fishing expidetion. Get the records of medical marijuana users, search the state records to see who’s bought a firearm recently. Then arrest the patients for posession, tack on a drug crim while in posession of a firearm rider and bam, 12+ for every smoker on the list.
Great way to get those crime statistics up in time for the next round of budget cuts.
What about the armed security guard at the co-op ? I live in California
I am surprised the NRA will not stand up to the double standard as with prescription and pot or the great advertisement and presence of alchohol, maybe it’s the lawyers drumming up buisness? Sticking the knife looking for more blood and control. Take a survey of people that drink and own a whole lot of guns, but they have money and generational influence. Pot is blown way out of proportion like sex, conflict is a money generator, the militants need a war their all fired up, need jobs what better than the security industry
Don’t get me wrong, this is some bullshit. But here is a quick solution… Don’t act like a stoner when buying guns. Don’t smell like weed, and make sure you leave your stash and card at home.
I don’t know if they can check if you are a patient during the waiting period to buy a gun but it repeatedly says “reason to believe” all over that letter… It’s up to you to dispose the information that you are a marijuana user… Just don’t tell em.
This wouldn’t be the first time we have broke the laws… most of us smoked before we had cards.
We shouldn’t have to do that though and that’s why this is wrong. I’m fed up(no pun intended) with being treated like a second class citizen
hey kids… im sorry but since you are sick and dying and cant stay nourished unless you smoke cannibas… well.. we are going to go have to go ahead and punish you kids by shutting down your dispensaries and taking away your weapons so you cant resort to the streets dealers… in other words, ATF is suddenly daddy and can pull the plug on the terminally ill
Go get yourself a guy from the bar, give hime a bottle of Jack. Smoke a little for yourself, arm both parties and see who fires first? If your’e the one smoking, ” DUCK & COVER”
@151 Doug – Seriously, you’re deluding yourself if you think for even a second that our Fed Govt doesn’t already know this. Their purpose is not unlike Hitler’s war against the jews only in this case it happens to be those of us that choose to use cannabis.
Anyone out there disagree with my conclusion?
Don #152, no I don’t disagree. This is becoming a form of genocide; and the plan is kill off the marijuana culture and ruin the life of anyone associated with it. They want to take away my job, my kids, my license to drive, my guns and put me in prison; effectively ending my life without actually killing me.
What did they do to the Jew in Germany? First they took away some of their rights. Then they had them all register. They were turned into second class citizens and they took their arms. Then they took away their property and their money. Next was to start slaving them in corporate, private and state run companies. Then they built concentration camps storing all these criminals workers. We all know what came next.
Where are we on this path to fascism insanity? Actually pretty far down the path… This giant prison population is nearly the same thing. People are being slaved while some corporation or private institution makes a windfall at the public’s expense. What is happening to my country??? Treating pot heads almost like child rapists–WTF?????????????
IF the NRA doesn’t get involved in this we’ll know they are really just a strong-arm of the conservative right and NOT a firearm rights association. This is the dumbest law and is completely unconstitutional. It violates the 2nd amendment and the Americans with Disabilities act. If the NRA doesn’t get involved in this I’ll lose what little respect I had for them.
Anybody got a Joint!!
Imagine, some of the framers of our Constitution like Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington who gave us the 2nd Amendment, along with all the others under this butt brain ATF memo could no longer own a firearm. What about all the Armed Guards, FBI agents, CIA agents, ATF agents, and Police Officers who amitted to having tried, or used marijuana. Even our current President who admitted to using marijuana, along with George Bush, and many other legislators, lets take away their rights too. All that has to be done is for the DEA to re-schedule medical marijuana period. Just like the 2 year study by DEA Admin Law Judge’s Finding of Fact ruling in 1988 indicated, but was overturned in weeks buy Corruption, and the Father, of the recreational marijuana using Son, George Bush Jr, who according to the “law”, can no longer use his 2nd Amendment Rights. Hey ATF!, George Washington would tell you, and you’re bosses, along with the DEA to shove that memo where the sun don’t shine.
It is real Simple!!!
* Drug Enforcement Agency +
* Internal Revenue Service +
* Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms +
* All backed by the Department of Justice
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145 “non-American”
After you kiss my ass you can blow your brains out – that ought to do it for you.
Just becoz yer too big a wuss to “hang” with us homies in the street to get yer weed don’t mean they can take yer guns away. Of course, you could always just buy your guns illegaly.
The Mederal Government Policy Institute
Ex-President George Bush Jr. admitted in a taped interview that he utilized recreational marijuana. Ex-President George Bush Jr. was seen shooting guns on his ranch, there is video footage of him doing so. Ex-President Bush under the Substance Act 21 USC 802 is in violation of Federal law, should be arrested, and given under sentencing guidelines 5 to 10 years in prison for violation of said Federal Law. The evidence is in plain view, I rest my case!
Let me make sure I understand. The Federal government, comprised of people who took a sworn oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United states, are using the threat of violence backed with deadly violence to deny Constitutionally guaranteed freedom and liberty of American citizens who use a medically specified treatment that has been used as such since at least the dawn of recorded history on this planet. These same public serveants do not seem to have a problem selling guns to people who buy booze by the case. Nor do they seem to have a problem with gun selling to people with prescriptions for morphine, barbituates or a host of other mind altering substances. And to top it off, we are all forced to pay to fund this stupidity. This is just another example of the hypocritical, illogical, un-Godly and un-Constitutional stupidity of those we have allowed to enslave us. I wonder what it would be like to live in a free country, even for only one day, just to see what it would be like.
@162 – In spite of our ancestors calling America “The Land of the Free”, this country has never been truly free; at least not for all citizens! We can only hope that someday we will have more freedom than we currently have. Unfortunately, what seems to be happening at the highest levels of our Govt is that they are slowly but surely exerting ever more control over all of us.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/30/medical-marijuana-crackdown-house-representatives-letter_n_1065354.html
Just found this article this morning sound like Congress might be listening,
An Update from Arizona: The ATF loses control and arms the most violent criminals in the hemisphere with 2000 high powered weapons. Over 200 deaths have been connected with those weapons on both sides of the border, so far. Arizona sheriffs recommend that ATF agents should be arrested for accessory to murder charges and the feds promote those involved. The DEA and the feds go after the medical marijuana dispensaries that are the only real competition to the cartels except for perhaps Marc Emery, a Canadian who sold seeds to patients wishing to grow medical cannabis. They put him in federal prison. Arizona sheriffs catch a drug smuggler with a large quantity of drugs about three weeks ago and give him to the feds. The feds release him for lack of evidence and send him back to Mexico. He is arrested today (Nov 1) with 1500 lbs. of heroin, again by the sheriffs in Arizona. This is the feds catch and release program but it only works if you are an illegal alien who is caught with large amounts of drugs.
We arm the cartels. We shut down their competition. We release them when they enter our country with drugs and the DEA makes some asinine statement about there being a larger mission. What specifically is that mission? If you were Chapo Guzman, head of the Sinaloa cartel, what more could you ask the feds to do to support his operation?
That’s right. Let’s disarm the medical marijuana patients…
My reading of the Law suggests to me that even Cancer Patients or People, prescribed Pain, Sleep or Anxiety Meds by their doctors are prohibited from Owning Firearms. I don’t know where the commenters above find exceptions for Pain Med RX Recipients. The wording of the Federal Laws, & Calif State Law, doesn’t differentiate between Prescribed or Non-Prescribed use of Controlled Substances. Unless this is vaguely written by Accident. Imagine if my interpretation of how these laws are written is Correct. It would mean Millions and Millions of people who use prescribed medications, like Ambien or Codeine or Valium, as prescribed by their Physician, would be guilty of Felonies. It is also widely known that Illegal Steroid Use is Rampant in Law Enforcement Agencies, Police & Fire Departments. That would also make owning a firearm a Felony. We are living on a Prison Planet, indeed.
i dont think it is fair at all that we lose our right to bear arms because of a medical condition. regardless if people like the fact that people have a medical marijuana card or not. some people have to have marijuana for medical use but hunt deer duck geese or whatever,so now they have a card to deal with pain or whatever for every day liveing but cant do every day liveing anymore because you took ther right to hunt. what about diabetics,you still let them drink alchohl. what about bars. its illegal to drink and drive but yet you contiue to let bars stay open,how do people get home from bars? think about it.
So if you dont register with the state..Because you can choose to or not.. Right? How do the ATF know you have the card? Do you just ask on the paper? Pee test? Or the they get you meadical records? How do they get to know… Is there a big list with everyones name on it and they are just waiting for a smoker to try to buy a guy??
How come the federal government can accept tax revenue form the medical marijuana facilities and then threaten to shut down the medical marijuana business? This is pure hypocrisy and someone must be accountable for this travesty of justice.
I dont care what the feds say.. its our 2 amendment right so im buying a gun rather they like it or not.. Fuc% them.. im protecting myself and my family at all cost….
They can go fuck themselves.
Just keep on voting for clowns like Cbama—The least of your worries will be your 2nd ammendment rights
I am allowed my second ammendment rights even if i am a medical marijuana card holder. So if you are prescribed oxicotten then maybe they should take you your constitutional rights away too. How ridiculous is our government becoming and the people who chose to kill their livers and get addicted to class 1 meds , I choose to do what my doctor says is best for me in dealing with my cancer and liver disease.
vote for a stupid republican who stand for the rich and take from the middle class hard workers and tell our daughters to return to using a hanger to have an abortion. this is America and all the republicans want to do is take all your rights away. so i will at least vito one of you damn republicans vote out when i vote for obama. you republicans messed things up for 8 plus years and he is expected to fix it in 4, use your brain please.
you guys miss the point. the feds have to start somewhere. you were just first. don’t worry, they’ll soon be taking guns from prescription drug users, people who drink, smoke, vote, drive cars, eat, crap, etc. the honor of being first falls to wife beaters, now you. vote all you like, it won’t matter. the chinese are coming to take over as repaymeny of our debt and they don’t like the idea of americans having guns so we will all be disarmed first. welcome to amerika. those of you who voted for obama, pat yourselves on the back as this could not have been possible without you. good luck people. you’re going to need it, especially where many of you are going.
You feds got it backwards. For it is you who don’t have the God given right to control anyones rights. And besides you people can’t even help yourselves on this matter, period! Checked the evidence room lately? this is way too big for you and so is God. PERIOD!!! You are failing as you are supposed to.
you have no rights. the govt already has gun registration in place. everytime you buy a gun from a store this info is kept on file and with a click of the mouse the atf gets the info. feds can and will do as they please as long as the american public stands there and lets them do it. we have only ourselves to blame because instead of paying attention we spend our time watching television, playing video games, and going to watch our favorite team play. one thing the feds will not do is interfere with sports as the stadiums serve not only to distract but in the event martial law does come the stadiums will be first to house people obama has rounded up. this is not a new thing as south american dictators have used sports stadiums for years to house their political prisoners. personally, i think alcohol is the most dangerous of all drugs as drinking and driving kill thousands every year. i never knew a pot head who beat up his wife, starved his kids, or hit someone just because he was high on grass. however, feds needed an excuse to violate the fourth amendment and drugs were a good excuse. drug use in itself is only as good or bad as those who imbibe. unfortunately, like christians, gun owners, property owner, one bad apple from a group means a govt system designed to target not just the bad but all those under the particular group classification. as far as taking away your gun rights this is a flagrant violation by the federal govt as the only way they can take your rights is when you have been tried and convicted for a felony. with these issues it allows the police state to avoid getting warrants, etc.
This all happens cause we let it all our famileys are the army and millatary if we come together I mean really come together show up with everyone and fire everyone do you really think all our famileys will fire on us we need to fire everyone and not hire anyone any of them mentored rebuild how the real gw seen it
first of all ballzdeep it would be a more credible statement if you would learn to spell correctly. Do you not have spell check on your computer?? Altho I do agree with your idea.
Secondly, I will carry my gun regardless of the law. Due to crime, wild animals, and my constitutional rights they can’t take it away from me.
If you let your mmj expire do you regain your privileges?
Marijuana violence:
Alcohol use contributes to aggressive and violent behavior. Marijuana use does not. Studies have repeatedly shown that alcohol, unlike marijuana, contributes to the likelihood of aggressive and violent behavior. An article published in the Journal of Addictive Behaviors reported that “alcohol is clearly the drug with the most evidence to support a direct intoxication-violence relationship,” whereas “cannabis reduces the likelihood of violence during intoxication.”
• Alcohol use is a major factor in violent crimes. Marijuana use is not. The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism estimates that 25-30% of violent crimes in the United States are linked to the use of alcohol. According to a report from the U.S. Dept. of Justice, that translates to about 5,000,000 alcohol-related violent crimes per year. By contrast, the government does not even track violent acts specifically related to marijuana use, as the use of marijuana has not been associated with violence. (Of course, we should note that marijuana prohibition, by creating a widespread criminal market, is associated with acts of violence.)
• Alcohol use contributes to the likelihood of domestic abuse and sexual assault. Marijuana use does not. Alcohol is a major contributing factor in the prevalence of domestic violence and sexual assault. This is not to say that alcohol causes these problems; rather, its use makes it more likely that an individual prone to such behavior will act on it. For example, a study conducted by the Research Institute on Addictions found that among individuals who were chronic partner abusers, the use of alcohol was associated with significant increases in the daily likelihood of male-to-female physical aggression, but the use of marijuana was not. Specifically, the odds of abuse were eight times higher on days when men were drinking; the odds of severe abuse were 11 times higher. According to the Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network (RAINN) website highlights alcohol as the “most commonly used chemical in crimes of sexual assault” and provides information on an array of other drugs that have been linked to sexual violence. Given the fact that marijuana is so accessible and widely used, it is quite telling that the word “marijuana” does not appear anywhere on the page.
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What will be next for this anti Second Amendment administration; seize any gun owned by someone with DUI?
Nope, that will never happen the liquor industry gives too much money to politicians.
The ultimate solution is to remove cannabis from schedule I.
I’ve contacted the ACLU. They’re not interested and seem to be ignorant that this is even going on.
I contacted The Second Amendment Federation.
They seem slightly intrigued but there is no help coming from them either.
Their view is that “we just sit back and wait for the reclassification of marijuana to come”
I’m not in the NRA. Is there any reason to be? What are they doing about this? Nada…(someone please correct me if I’m wrong)
Meanwhile, oxy users and alcoholics enjoy their second amendment rights while the evil Assassin of Youth is denied.
I guess were Subhumans who don’t deserve to protect our homes, lives and possessions.
I wasn’t even wanting concealed carry. I just want home protection from “enemies, foreign and domestic” – (Land of the Free huh?)
Mis amigos, in the Tags for this article, that should be “right to BEAR arms.” I don’t think the feds care if you have, you know, sleeveless tank tops… 😉
I am at a loss for words. I have followed and studied this issue and it seems to be about controlling people to the core from every direction they’re causing this conversation to take place when in fact, this should not be, an issue this late in man kinds, society
What im not seeing here is if my boyfriend already had guns legally, an he did recieve his mml then can they make him get rid of his guns! Does anyone know? Cause we have some pretty mad people at us right now ( long story) that want to turn in my boyfriend for having both, so i need to know if he can get into trouble
Thanks a bunch! This is an astounding online site!.
NOW do you understand why these people were called pigs in the late 60’s and early 70’s?