Tuesday night, the states of Colorado and Washington sent a loud and clear message to the federal government that they no longer wish to enforce the futile prohibition on cannabis. The symbolic impact of these victories are immediate, but what are the practical effects on the ground now that these two initiatives have been approved?
WASHINGTON
In Washington State, regulations for the marijuana retail outlets are going to start being drafted by the Washington State Liquor Control Board. This process is expected to last about a year. The immediate impact of passing I-502 is on the state laws regarding possession. Starting on December 6th, Section 20 of the initiative will take effect. This section effectively states that any person over the age of 21 is legally allowed to possess up to 1oz of dried marijuana, 16oz of marijuana solids (edibles), and 72oz of cannabis infused liquids (think oils and lotions). It is also no longer a crime to possess marijuana paraphernalia.
Law enforcement representatives in the state have already released some statements on this matter. Sergeant Sean Whitcomb, from the Seattle Police Department, said, “For us, the law has changed, and people can expect no enforcement for possession.”
“What you can expect,” Sgt. Whitcomb clarified, “is no enforcement on possession, that is a reasonable expectation.”
COLORADO
The vote in Colorado is awaiting final certification, a process that is expected to take about a month. After this approval, it will immediately become legal in Colorado for adults over the age of 21 to possess up to an ounce of marijuana and for them to grow up to 6 plants in a secure indoor space.
The state is required to adopt a legal framework for retail sales by July of 2013, the first marijuana retail outlets could potentially open as early as the start of 2014.
Colorado’s law enforcement seems just as keen as Washington’s, for the time being, to honor the will of the people. “We’re not federal agents,” stated Larimer County Sheriff Justin Smith, who opposed Amendment 64 during the campaign.
“We can arrest people if they’re wanted on warrants on federal crimes, but unless we’re involved in a specific case … where (a deputy is) cross-commissioned as a federal agent,” he said, “we don’t directly enforce federal law.”
While he ended his statement with a patronizing jab, Colorado Governor Hickenlooper seems willing to abide by the desire of his state’s citizens on this issue. “The voters have spoken and we have to respect their will,” Hickenlooper said Tuesday night.
“This will be a complicated process, but we intend to follow through. That said,” he ended, “Federal law still says marijuana is an illegal drug, so don’t break out the Cheetos or gold fish too quickly.”
These protections in both states, when certified and placed into effect, will apply to anyone physically in the state, no residency required. Public consumption would remain a violation in both states, but a civil, not criminal, one.
As always, NORML will keep you posted as these laws become certified and come into effect and will be tracking the process of implementing retail outlets every step of the way.
I can’t wait to hear some official statements from the doj/dea. Ill bet their phones are ringing off the hook!
Does NORML plan to act on behalf of the citizens already in jail for Cannabis related offenses?
For the first time in a long time I can say I’m proud to live in America.
Washingtonian. I can’t wait for the 6th of December. I’m hoping they’ll soon allow home grows – as it is right now, by the time the 6th rolls around, there’s no way to legally OBTAIN MJ.
When are they going to realize that the nation is over the prohibition of cannabis. It now and has always been a dumb law and the people are speaking, more would speak if given the opportunity. I dont think that America should end up being a bunch of stoners but I dont think it is a bad thing to take a puff every now and again. The good sure out weighs the bad here. JQP out
wait a minute…colorado can you’ll only be able to possess an ounce, but can have up to six plants? i don’t understand that? wouldn’t that involve you having to “possess” more than an ounce?
Hickenlooper!
If Coloradan’s are really smart, they’ll get rid of this guy since he is not on board with the people of his own state. In fact, he is not on board with the majority of the people in this country and, indeed, a large portion of this small world.
That statement about cheetos and goldfish is extremely ignorant and condescending. Vote him out!
It stated an ounce of dry marijuana and 6 plants, so you can have both.
Congratulations Washington and Colorado, hopefully California will be next.
I have a question regarding the sales of Marijuana in those two States. (I am in California as a medical marijuana patient)
Do you think the prices for marijuana will drop? Or will there be no change in the price?
As of Nov 2012, an Ounce here in Northern California costs anywhere from 200 to 400 an ounce.
I just want to know because I emailed Denverpost and Seattletimes but no response yet. I wonder if the prices will be significant or just a tad lower? Thanks~ ^_^
I think what it means is that you can possess up to an ounce in public but you can have more in a “secure indoor space” like your house.
Maybe feds will focus on oc and other drugs that directly kill thousand of american a year. Na
We should start contacting Congress and ask them to amend the federal law so it is not applicable to states that legalize or decriminalize cannabis on their own. If we ask to completely end the law, that won’t work, but just asking for a compromise so states can freely legalize might work. So we don’t have fights between states and federal which is a huge waste of resources. Then states that don’t want to legalize can continue having the law. As is, the federal law will just prevent and imprison people who try to open any businesses producing and selling cannabis.
congratulations to Colorado and Washington. Just wondering how the surrounding states will respond. Also, will one be able to travel to one of these states and pick up a bag. I’m ready to gas up the car.
The focus now will be brought to neighboring states where Cannabis is still prohibited. Those states will have to consider where they want to see the citizen’s disposable income to be spent, in their home state or across the border in a neighboring state. Prices may actually increase since the supply is limited(somewhat) but will soon begin to drop as the supply becomes more readily available.
Arkansans unfortunately are still stuck behind the desires of the religious overlords telling the masses what to do. It was closer than many expected.
I am moving back to Colorado!
As a colorado resident, I understand this to mean that you are permitted to carry up to 1 ounce of “dry” marijuana on your persons, and you are simultaneously permitted to grow up to 6 plants in your home.
As for the prices, as you more than likely already know, street prices for marijuana dropped by roughly 40% when the dispensaries opened. I would imagine these prices would remain relatively the same. However with that kind of quantity being sold throughout this state, I could also see the price dropping.
We will all have to wait and see, but it’s an incredible feat nonetheless!! 🙂
Ooh, the Washington law goes into effect right on my birthday! Perfect timing. 🙂
The evil sinister plans of the nine former DEA administrators and Michele Leonhart are at work. What WILL happen next? Will it end the Nixon’s curse on the Free and Liberty minded people who believes in the U.S. Constitution and dared to protest his political ambition.
A job well done NORML. I hope you stoners against legalization in California who killed prop 19 are eating your hearts out.
Boo. That’s an insane amount they got. Sadly the Oregonians are stuck up.
so what does this mean about drug testing in CO or WA?
Minnesota should be next!
What good is busting licensed growers and distributors going to do when you then have to use a jury from the voters that just made it legal?
If the Feds start harassing these states with their scare tactics from forfeiture or arrest. We the people ought to declare war on the Feds. This is a big deal for freedom and slowly getting it back to where it belongs with the people. Thank you to the states of Washington and Colorado for stepping up to the freedom plate and knocking it out of the park. Every other state government better get ready because I think it will be an avalanche of prohibition busting. Let’s do this and take our country back from the elitist establishment.
What Happens Now? One thing that comes to my mind is tourism! I hope those States are prepared for a lot of tourism dollars that are sure to be coming their way! 🙂
Hopefully, all the extra money they will make, coupled with what they won’t be spending on idiotic busts, will strongly encourage more states to get on board with legalization. Truly, it is idiotic it was ever made illegal in the first place!
Anyone with an IQ > 50 knows that marijuana does not belong in schedule 1 of the controlled substances act. Seriously folks, Michelle Leonhart has shown herself to have an IQ that is lower than 50 🙂
Finally millions of Americans feel like human beings!!!! Norml and all its supporters have fought for the end prohibition and its almost 100% here!!! We’ve been kicked down and humiliated for our nonpersucutoru views and we were and are right!!!!!!!!
I’m so proud to be an American today!!! Norml you guys are the best!!! Keep it norml!!!!
“What good is busting licensed growers and distributors going to do when you then have to use a jury from the voters that just made it legal?” – claygooding
You are right, they can’t do anything but maybe take them to Arkansas and have them tried there. Or in my state, Maryland.
Lol!
Actually I got a kick out of the CO governor’s comments about cheetoh’s and goldfish. Sounds like he thinks that’s the worst that comes of smoking mj, that you get the munchies. To me it sounded almost like he’s a fellow stoner. At any rate, yeah I’m stoked. this bodes well for the repeal of prohibition. It only takes one domino to make the rest fall.
For the sake of argument, what if I travel from TN to CO and spend a wonderful week’s vacation enjoying this God-given blessing and then go home? Would a postive (THC) urinalysis apply since I was exercising my right, as a U.S. (Army veteran) citizen, to travel within my homeland??? Hire some more NORML lawyers, ‘cuz I’m fittin’ to be a-headed West!! Where is that damn horse, anyway?
Is it illegal in these states to smoke cannabis in public? If so, this conversion process should be smooth.
Wish this vote would come up here in NJ but the Governor said “not on his watch”. Congrats to CO and WA…. way to go !!
Ok, so NOW at this pivotal, wonderful moment of US history- it’s time for all to begin fighting just as hard for the OTHER parallel cause that goes along side by side with marijuana- prostitution- yes- prostitution- let’s fight to free the poor women and their customers whom have been harassed and jailed for decades for doing a completely consensual and victimless activity- seeking the companionship of a woman. For those who don’t think that this is a real and prevalent issue- check the internet ads for escorts- it’s a permanent and REAL part of American society- so lets all begin the fight starting RIGHT NOW and make sure that the US government understands that we citizens have had enough of being subjugated and thrown in jail, getting fined, and having a life-altering arrest record for life, just for spending a little time with whom we choose to spend our OWN time with!!
I used to be 100% for Hickenlooper, but his comments and unwillingness to protect his state from the feds is childish. Yes, you didn’t support it, but 55% of your state DID. It’s time to get on board and make sure this is done right.
I was wondering where the state stands on drug testing for jobs. Since THC stays in your system for up to two weeks how can we leagally use it and still have a job after manditory drug testing? Can we claim descrimination if an employer refuses to hire us because we came up positive?
I WOULD HAVE NEVER TRAVELED TO COLORADO IN MY LIFE
I am a responsible adult. I work in the court system and i do NOT smoke pot. But the thought of sitting in a cafe in Colorado getting a second hand high and getting one with nature and God plus meeting cool and laid back people is very appealing then the rat race AND STRESS here in the city and the alcohol that is destroying my body.
Where are the lounges and hotels like in Amsterdam. I await their opening. And here I come….
HAIL, THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!!!
How wonderful this is to repeal and de-criminalizer Pot.
Now law enforcement can go get a real job and arrest true criminals, like serial killers.
Thank God the day may come when I will not see 3 cops and 3 cars search a vehicle for a pipe screen. I hope Federal changes and let the will of the people prevail.
After having been raised on Richard M. Nixon’s false propaganda, I was certain the world would end the very moment this plant was returned to legal status.
Regarding Obama’s reaction, the man is unpredictable. Most of you haven’t realized just how insane the man is yet, but he is. Google “compensatory narcisscist” if you doubt me.
In any case, the fact that Obama persecuted you heavily before means nothing now. He could either double down on the persecution or else reverse course entirely. Ether way, you’ll know soon.
JETBLUE $214 ROUND TRIP FROM NYC (4 hrs flight)
I await the first cafe to open up and i I am there baby.
Dear Federal Government,
Here is your chance to earn the respect of the people. We have been reasonable. We did what many prohibitionists have said before to reformers and changed the law. A majority of American citizens are behind this in our two states, and polls around the country. Please allow us this opportunity to set an example for the rest of the country; help us to show you a better way than a drug war that has killed and victimized more people than the drugs themselves could ever have.
Please allow us to show the rest of the nation that we can drive the black market out of our neighborhoods with economics, not with drug waring violence. Please dear Feds allow us to show the rest of the country that marijuana use by children will go down. 1. It will go down because children will now see marijuana like alcohol or tobacco and can abstain in knowing that they can eventually have a right when they reach legal age. 2. Real drug education can now be taught in the schools so that children find it credible and trustworthy, so that they don’t think pot is the same thing as meth. 3. Since the black markets will be driven out by lower prices and availability of superior product in above ground establishments, any abuses can be better tracked when things are documented in the open from seed to sale. 4. CO and WA are ready to be a positive example and show that citizens will be responsible consumers, and not abuse our new precious rights.
Please dear Feds show us some reasonableness in the wake of two states legalizing, new medical, and other marijuana reforms from Americans all over the country this election and allow us to move prudently and carefully toward a better way.
Thank you,
Jeedi
I would like to say congrats for Washington and Colorado on legislation.Now the main question is what do the people of america especially the ones from Colorado and Washington think about legislation on other states or better said,America in general.i have illnesses that its been proven marijuana helps.
Now that states are starting to legalize.maybe they start usein it for more that smoking purpose’s so much other stuff can come from this.hopefully Kentucky be next.
Here in NJ our Gov is a X-DA and also GOP…. there is slim chance he will budge on this or even a slim chance he will get slim! Time will tell…huge step with CO and WA… Bravo!!
Thank you to all who worked on this. It’s a huge step in a long struggle to normalize relations with a plant that has served us since our ancient ancestors climbed out of the ocean.
In the short-run, prices will definetly increase since demand is going through the roof…Cetarus Paribus In the long-run, however, I see prices moderating as people start growing their own…and suppliers meeting the demand. In general, until this becomes a national thing…demand will continue to out perform supply and we could see higher prices for awhile. How this affects the Black Market in other States is going to be interesting. Economists are going to write dissertations on these effects. Cool times.
What does public consumption mean? Will coffee shops, like in Amsterdam, be allowed? I don’t think the tourists will come if there isn’t a cool place to consume their legal buds!
These fed a-holes don’t enforce weapons, cocaine, or immigration violations; so why enforce any mj statutes >
The most important thing we can do as a group is vote libertarian. The republicans and democraps election victories vary on small percentages. We libertarians are the 5% of the vote neither are getting, enough to throw it either way. They know we want marijuana decriminalized and legalized, even if they dont endorse it. Each of our votes are so important on both the national and state levels. Please continue to support your local city and state elections with libertarian votes and get out there and help make it happen. Every victory you guys get helps bring my state that much closer.
Feel free to call your local radio talk shows and endorse your libertarian party and ask about a discussion of marijuana decriminalization. A lot of republicans listen to conservative talk radio programs so if theyre listeners think we will come back to theyre party and bring our 5% vote with us if we can just get past this damn marijuana thing settled…. then perhaps they will vote in our favor on whatever proposition or state ammendment we manage to get on the ballot. And realisticly most pot smokers tend to be conservative because we just want the government to leave us alone. So please vote libertarian and spread the word.
so Friday Hickenlooper is gonna talk to holder and this is how the conversation is gonna go
Hickenlooper “ok i don’t want this crap in my state and i have to side with voters ,how do we stop this before it gets even worse ?”
Holder “blah blah blah blah” <—-this guy has got to be the dumbest AG in recorded history O_O now i don't know what holder is gonna say but cause hes a fed he has to say no to anything that's illegal..But for sure Hickenlooper is gonna say pretty much what i said he would say.the way he talked about it was a dead give away ;/ You can not trust your government people maybe 150 years ago u could but today not a chance in hell
Yes yes this is a wonderfull time! For the first time, Marijuana has been LEGALIZED in the U.S.! While I myself don’t consume cannabis, I see this as a victory for personal Liberty.
While we are celebrating, lets not get to complacent! Eternal vigilance is the price for Liberty, never forget that. We must always fight the good fight for Freedom, Justice and Liberty on all fronts and at all times lest we fall asleep only to awaken again in chains!
While you are smoking a joint, or rolling a spliff, or vaporizing or whatever, do this. Remember when people said that Marijuana legalization would never happen. And then remember this time, this very week. Then never forget!
4:20 Forever!
“”You are right, they can’t do anything but maybe take them to Arkansas and have them tried there. Or in my state, Maryland.”” Stephen Daniel
With the amount of people now supporting medical marijuana and recreational marijuana across this country I would take my chances on a jury trial in any state right now,,after all,,this was voted in by the people and although the feds act as if the constitution is nothing but toilet paper,,the people that make up those juries don’t.
My guess is that both laws will be suspended while they rot away up and down the state and federal court system for years and years. As a compromise all states will adopt the DUI provision. In the Red states a backlash will result in harsher pot laws, increased drug testing and increased asset forfiture and State constitutional amendments prohibiting marijuana legalization. In 2014 the Supreme court will either overturn both laws or uphold them. If upheld Congress will withold Federal Highway funds from CO and WA forcing their legislatures to comply with Federal Drug Laws.
Missouri almost had legalization on the ballot as well. But we didn’t get enough signatures. I’m sure that we can all expect to see similar petitions in your states. Know that it is not enough to simply scribble your name on a piece of paper, rally support everywhere and get the word out. I have herd that this same petition has circulated many times in missouri and every time it fails to get necessary amount of signatures. I for one will not let that happen again.
Passing an initiative is one thing but getting the respect of law enforcement is a real change. It is great that they have abandoned possession arrests and said they will not be enforcing federal law unless specifically commissioned to do so. A real challenge with these state initiatives is how painlessly and efficiently they can be put into practice. If this process goes well (and it seems to be going very well) the whole idea becomes much more attractive to people in other states or other countries around the world.
More good News ! 😎
“We can arrest people if they’re wanted on warrants on federal crimes, but unless we’re involved in a specific case … where (a deputy is) cross-commissioned as a federal agent,” he said, “we don’t directly enforce federal law.”
I dunno… I can envision a scenario where all deputies are cross-commissioned all the time. Or maybe an electrified fence around each state.
Perhaps the citizens of Colorado will assist the other States citizens in drafting the exact type of legislation so all of the citizens of all of the states could enjoy their freedoms as well without being harassed by the State Governments for a law that should never have been passed to begin with. Prohibition never works period.
I can hardly wait to find out what President Obama’s administration is going to do about this. Hopefully, he will tighten the reigns on AG Holder and the DEA and let this happen peacefully! It is the Will of the People and this is (supposedly) The Land of the Free!
GOOD…NOW, WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH DRUG TESTING???? employers do have the right to be sure their employees are not under the influence in the issue of safety. is their a test that will tell when one last consumed and , is their any time line being put in place to ensure we cant be fired for having THC in our system from say…two evenings ago or, last evening. alcohol is…i believe…6 or eight hours. its an important factor for those of us who are random hair tested….any new news on saliva testing??? thank you good people of NORML for you damm hard work….
The feds allow you to abort a child…” its your body “. However they jail you for taking a hit of pot into that same body!!! WTF
well the dye is struck,will freedom prevail,I think not,The drug cartels,bozz people,will do all thsy can to slow this movement down.
They have way to much to lose.
The drug cartels will give tons of money to supossed right wing politicans.to enact laws that protect there’r profits,just thing if you
can grow 6 plants at a time it will cover you needs all year long (if done right)
and the beer and whiskey makers will also pitch a bitch about home proudction.after moonshine is still a no no.what will the D.O.T do when they “Drugtest a driver who lives in Wa or Co.
The laws are a step in the righr direction
but it will be a long time before they become
common place.
don’t forget the bible thumpers will be twitching in the pews,sweating and Praying for the new “Devil weed” sinners
@Judy
Yes, I also hope they let this happen peacefully.
I will tell you all a story of me and the ATF branch office that was stationed in my office building in Santa Ana, California. They were a bunch of young guys, really fun – great personalities, and when I would step out for a smoke break, they would chat with me sometimes on their way to and from their cars. Well, one day, I was invited into their office because they had something to show me. They were pictures they had taken of me as I was walking on the street during my lunch hour to get some lunch. They were taken with a confiscated camera (they told me, because I asked, but they might have been joking — I dont really know). And I don’t really know why they took those pictures except they they were bored or something. Obviously! Well, we all had a good laugh, they gave me the pictures and I have them to this day.
Yeah, the DEA needs to stop wasting taxpayers’ money and get off “welfare” and go find real jobs – maybe policing the ATF. hehe
This is for locked out. I’ve worked on the rigs in the North Atlantic out of Scotland. What they do is piss test you after you come in from the rigs to see if you been smoking on the job. It would seem that there a way to determine the amount of THC in your system and determine when that was.
You can take the boy out of the country but you can’t take the country out of the boy.
Hooraw Normal
What about Hemp, I would presume that this would allow for farmers to grown hemp in these states
No matter what happens I felt like I wasn’t as much of criminal after Tuesday night. Even though I’m a legal MMJ patient I’ve never taken it for granted and always knew that if “they” wanted to “they” could make my life a living hell in a heart beat. Now? Not so much.
Lead by the “West”……lot of our people had to leave here in the past to start another life out there…..we don’t see (eye to eye) on the whole of things but…DEFEND YOUR POSITION BY CLAIMING YOUR RIGHT AS A STATE UNDER THE 10TH AMENDENT TO THE US CONSTITUTION
Challenge your conservative oppoudents
STATES RIGHTS is alive and well in 2012
Thanx Michael for realizing this is not just about us stoners getting high but about everyone’s freedom to choose for themselves. They won’t do anything about people growing their own at home. But those who think the Feds will just let it go should remember that they raid MMJ dispensaries that are legal under state law. Now what do you think they will do when pot stores selling to everyone start popping up. They will arrest the store owners, seize the property the stores are on, regardless of who owns them, and seize all their assets. They won’t care that the people of CO and WA voted these laws in, not state legislators. When that happens I will go stand with CO because it is the closest one of the two to me in OK even if it means Civil War.
@4USFreedom: Hey, prostitution is legal in my county. Ever heard of a butte hut named The Bunny Ranch? The Kit Kat? It’s not as big of a deal when it’s legal, we’ll see this with weed too.
Never could spell, not the pot
“what happens now?”
Plant your seeds!
What a beautiful day in History! The fact that more states are stepping up and saying they are stoping destroying lives and filling prisons is a start. The whole Nation needs to wake up!
History has been made, there is no turning back now!!!!!!!
Common sense is winning for once in my lifetime, great to get to see this amazing event!
We can arrest people if they’re wanted on warrants on federal crimes. this will be the loophole, feds will secretly watch people and places, come up with a bunch of warrants then sick the regular cops on all the people involved
We the people end 75 years of treason and crimes against humanity.
“Yes yes this is a wonderfull time! For the first time, Marijuana has been LEGALIZED in the U.S.! While I myself don’t consume cannabis, I see this as a victory for personal Liberty.”
uhm, this is RE-Legalization people! Do not forget it was legal before the 1930s!!!!!… not the FIRST time, but its about god damn time it happened! at least its starting, hopefully will trickle across the US till the feds change their minds..
State law cannot conflict with federal law bc of the Supremacy Clause of the US Const. To the extent the CO and WA laws purport to legalise the production, distribution, sale of MJ, the SCOTUS will, notwiths
I predict a the Federal Government re-evaluating their marijuana policy. Obviously CO & WA helped to carry Obama back for another term. Cannabis garnered more votes than the President did even. One would have to be a complete moron to stare those facts in the face and ignore them. We are a Government by the people and for the people, and the people say regulate cannabis like alcohol, period, end of story. The repercussions for fighting the states on their right to legalize cannabis could prove detrimental for the Democratic Party. When you can’t evolve on issues as fast as the people can your party will quickly become a relic of the past. Just my honest opinion.
Yes hemp is legal too in WA and CO.
Will, I hope you are not really foolish to believe the government gives two hoots what you think.
Obama can end all this bickering with the stroke of a pin. The only thing that the Feds fear is the lose of power and control.
Hey Osborn ,,,,, they may not care but I’m sure they’re paying attention.
I don’t mean anyone should go out and attack anyone and I hope no one tries to blame their violent act(s) on me. I am saying that everyone has the right to choose for themselves given to them by God and cannot be taken from them. as acknowledged by Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence. If these rights cannot be taken away then everyone has the God given right to defend them. If you don’t realize that then you are already conquered without even giving any kind of a fight.
i don’t know what to expect…
optimistically, yeah..the feds could re-evaluate their stance on things. we are under the right conditions right now with a second term administration. no first term prez would consider it for fear of the next election cycle. a second term guy might be a little more relaxed.
or they could go all out full scale shut it down mode.
all i know is i hope it can last. what i’m looking for is a slow trasition into allowing things to take their course without a lot of federal involvement. let the rest of the country watch and decide on their own if it is for their state or not. slowly back off the fed pressure and eventually allow the states to have the power to manage this on their own with the feds only having power over interstate commerce and that this is export/import, in addition to taxes and collections with little regs. other than that, hands off uncle sam!
I could definitely see this being an issue for the Supreme Court to decide, although some will argue that they decided this in Lopez.
Just taking it away from the DEA schedule 1 class and giving to the ATF would end a lot of problems. Just done get caught driving high. It would be like alcohol. Now where have I heard that.
Thanks NORML
what about everyone currently in jail for a “crime” that is now legal????????
It just occurred to me today…Colorado’s law. It’s a constitutional amendment. Alaskans have the right to home grow and possess in their house due to the same thing. Looks like the feds are gonna fall short in Co like they did there. I think it even
went to the supreme court. So… He-he! Haw-haw!
Not sure about “now,” but “next” is easy. Some of you smart guys and gals out there need to get some controlled studies going. The more the merrier. Then the excuse of “no scientific studies” comes right off the table. What can I say? Kick ’em when they’re down, and break the back of their corruption. As heard in arcades of yesteryear…”Finish Them!”
Withhold federal highway funds ? Ha,Ha . They allready did that in Montana. No seatbelt law. No we wouldn’t raise/lower the D.U.I. limit from .10 to .08. And, and and we never lowered the speed limit to 55mph. [ever hear of the nickel ticket ? ] Ha ha…….For sure the feds with-held highway funds but in name ONLY. they were still given BUT not for blacktop. [ they never tell you everything ] only traffic safety ! ! We got 100’s of miles in bike trails,lights, signs,beautification, etc. Safety, safety safety !…..Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee d
50 nanograms is the ‘federal standard’ [ or is it some state standards ? ] , I forgot. for D.U.I. If your 50 nanograms they can ‘assume’ ‘ infer’ you’ve recently smoked w/i 24 hours says the latest studies. I tend to agree.
[Paul Armentano responds: You are referring to the federal workplace guidelines which designate a 50ng/ml THC-COOH cutoff in urine. This is not applicable to I-502’s driving provisions, which exempts THC-COOH and only addresses the presence of active THC in blood, not inactive THC-COOH in urine.]
Super d.l. high five………
I seen this coming -state legalization individually and first over federal- for the last 8 years. I think the conern of a good deal of Norml’s
It just so happens that I have been working on that very issue, Anonymous, among others dealing with MJ
Can I get an Amen!? But seriously, I think a majority of NORML’s supporters are concerned with the individual economics for them as growers, on a Medical vs. Federally Legal status. I think a great number of small medical marijuana producers will view Federalization with great suspicion. It may be that small, individual medical growers may be supplanted by Anheuser Bush style conglomerates. Marijuana will be rapidly commodified by the market forces and economies of scale will eradicate the vast majority of citizens who rely on a growers profit to survive or excel.
So how can i get a license and open up a store, do I apply through the department of revenue?
This is our time!
I think this is something that should have been done years ago. But the bottom line is that businesses still have drug inforcement policies. Smoke what you will but you’ll be unemployable.
It’s a partial victory for ending the war on liberty.
As the WA cop said it will be legal in WA to posses 1 oz of pot.
When I was a kid growing up in OR, and used to smoke it, I never got busted. But the possibility was there, for a 500-1000 fine and 6 month suspension of the driver’s license plus what ever the US gov. does to you for the conviction, student loans etc.
Now, that’s no longer an issue in the, by reputation, less liberal WA.
But I doubt you’ll be able to buy it. And the law doesn’t allow you to grow it for personal use.
I suppose that’s how they got the law to pass. They replaced one control, criminal laws, with another, state regulation. Which is pretty silly. Because anyone who can grow tomatos can grow their own.
Actually when State law conradicts federal law state law is the only one valid as per the 10th ammendment giving states power
“Federal law still says marijuana is an illegal drug, so don’t break out the Cheetos or gold fish too quickly.”
If Colorado’s Governor thinks this is such a joking matter, then why did he nervously run straight to the U.S. DOJ to ask for permission and executive guidance regarding implementation, instead of deciding to take a stand for the laws and People of Colorado?
The Federal Government and Colorado’s Legislature refused to enact, or even discuss, reasonable regulations in the past, and now are in a frenzy after the voters decided to end this prohibition mess. In the end, the Federal Government cannot require States to carry criminal penalties, but can only use its own financial resources and manpower to round up every plant and every joint in CO citizens’ pockets. The DOJ would need thousands of military ground troops for that task in Colorado alone.
We live in fascinating times! This is our generation’s end to prohibition! I can’t wait until more states follow and legalization spreads east. I see CA and OR lighting up around 2014 (two more years of older voters leaving the voter rolls should do the trick).
The longer they drag out this so called process then the longer the off the record sales are gonna go nuts taking advantage of no possession charges. Stupid government.
Even though there is still a lot of work to be done, this fight is over.
It makes me proud to say
FUCK YOU
to EVERY one of you shitty assholes who fucked up and said marijuana is bad for your health for ANY FUCKING REASON.
GOD BLESS MARIJUANA. retweet THAT shit.
who is going to be suplying the stores what do growers need to do to get legit???
Can I board a flight in Seattle with some weed and fly to Denver or would federal law take precedence?
Getting Marijuana off Federal Schedule 1 is the key, IMHO. Without a looming election, I am hoping the Obama administration will “pivot” and reschedule marijuana. There is a lawsuit currently. Born and Raised in THE MILE HIGH CITY, proud of my State!
Federal Law is flawed. Unconstitutional limitations upon free enterprise / Anti trust / violates states rights / etc. President Obama can change the law, by rescheduling MARIJUANA to a different status, or repealing FED PROHIBITION – DON”T HAVE A COW !!! my insight to this problem is as follows…..C ANONYMOUS’s remark ??? MORE ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS / HARSHER PENALTIES / MORE DUI enforcement / WORK PLACE TESTING / WELFARE / FOOD STAMP restrictions / more legal loopholes / FEDERAL FUNDS withholdings / OUT RIGHT RAIDS / Individual prosecutions / YEARS OF LEGAL WRANGLING with concepts and laws, while the SAME CONGRESSIONAL CROOKS get FAT, DUMBER, and EVEN DUMBER…..
PASS THOSE CHEETOS and GOLDFISH man…and DON”T BOGART that JOINT my FRIEND…….
UP IN SMOKE !!!
CHEETOS MARIN & TOMMY BONGS ……
C NM SB 523 /// C CA SB 215 // C CA SB 420
et al. 50 nano grams ???
BIG PROBLEMS IN WORK PLACE TESTING / DUI enforcementt / roadside testing / search and seizure / property forfeiture laws / plus RETROACTIVE applications in CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS, not to mention commutation for LIFE SENTENCES for MARIJUANA SALES and DISTRIBUTIONS etc……it is ALL SO MUCH BULLSHIT….and then they still want to be able to RECORD / ACCOUNT for the TAX on EVERY FUCKING LEAF, let alone POUNDS OF BUD…..
get fucking REAL man….
BE REAL man
b 4 the legalization of MARIJUANA….
we had a fucking MESS…..
LEGALIZE IT COMPLETELY and quit fucking around…or this will be WW III 4 sure…..
UP IN SMOKE with the DEA…th….
late
ED
SCOTUS moot US /// just shut UP and PLANT The SEEDS u stupid MORONS !!! YOU GOT 2 FIGHT $ 4 the RIGHT 2 PARTY …..didn’t U hear BEASTIE BOYS /// TWISTED SISTER /// QUIET RIOT or the OTHERS ??? THROUGH THE EYE OF A PIG –
HIGH TIMES /// CAN I get a HIT of YOUR WEED ?
Cannabis is mis-classified as a schedule one controlled substance because if a doctor prescribes it to a patient it therefore has medicinal benefit & a schedule one controlled substance status becomes null & void on a federal level Cannabis is more apt to be classified as a schedule two controlled substance because you have doctors prescribing it to patients designating it as having a medicinal benefit
So when the Federal Government sits on it’s hands & does nothing about this then this is what You have States and People rising up!!!!
I been trying to keep up with the news on this. The Mexicans sound pissed. They have been quietly suggesting legalizing for years. The Canadians think its funny. They think we’re becoming Canadian. Everybody here is thrilled. And the Feds haven’t said a word. Foreign policy on marijuana is going to also be changed. The Feds have forced they’re way into so many live that they will have to back down. Can’t really find how alcohol prohibition died out but it took a long time.
Keep us informed NORML
I have a relative who was cited and fined within the past couple of years for possessing a tiny amount of marijuana and a small smoking pipe. This has created a mark on her record which now shows when she seeks employment.
This change in the law in Washington state is a great victory for those who wish to simply relax and enjoy and have the freedom to do so. Bill Maher’s show last night had a spokesman for Colorado’s pro cannabis campaign. He and Bill made the point that unlike alcohol, which contributes to thousands of deaths, marijuana has not been shown to be a direct contributor to death .. it is far more safe.
Colorado is way ahead of the curve in allowing cultivation of up to six plants. Now that’s what I call a healthy culture!
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee d ! ALL I can say is hip hip hooray ! Thought I’d never see the day! AND fudge the sales. GO PLANT A SEED. Seeds everywhere. Turn weed into a nationally invasive weed. AGAIN
Earlier, a news article said that CO has eliminated civil and criminal penalties. Now, this article says it’s still a civil penalty for public consumption; who’s going to prosecute a civil litigation case over it?
Well im not moving to Colorado until I know I can get a job and not get drug tested.
i have to say, whe i was first told of this, i didnt beleive it was legal for RECREATIONAL use, but now that i see this, i can bet this will be jumping the border of US/CA very soon. BLESSED BE
“Actually when State law conradicts federal law state law is the only one valid as per the 10th ammendment giving states power”
No. The 10th amendment states that the powers that aren’t given to the Feds are deligated to the states. Good luck getting the Controled substances Act declared unconstitutional. I haven’t heard of a single court case to that effect.
I think some indian reservations tried growing hemp. Only federal law applies, not state, but the Feds came and cut it all down.
The reason that you’re not seeing the full extent of the law thrown at the dispensaries in CA, is that there would be political fall out. There kind of has to be public support for laws to be enforced.
The Feds have forced marihuana prohibition on other countrys. The rest fo the world knows its BS and now everybody is setting back to see it America really is the land of liberty and freedom.
In 1933 when prohibition became uncontrollable, FDR signed the 21 amendment and left responcability up to the states. Today we still have dry countys in some states. But the Feds did back down.
Save your seed and spread the weed.
Thanks NORML
Yea I don’t know what happen’s with the drug testing I was a drug tester for 8 years at Amtrak and UPS and all school bus drivers in the capital district in NY can empoyers still fire you if pot shows up in your system if it is legal I don’t think so but it might be up to each employer I do not know hope not I had a friend that loved pot but good not smoke it because he worked on the rail road for 30 years he said he could not wait till he was 65 so he could sit home and smoke like crazy he died at 64 what a kick in the ass i still feel really bad for him hope this make’s every state do the same thing then the feds will get the message it is legal in Alaska been for a long time I am just so happy wish i did not live in NY state thanks
The people of Colorado should impeach their Yahoo Governor since he has showed no spine and failed too respect the will of the people and run to the Feds for permission. The Governor of Colorado is steaming mad behind closed doors because he is invested in the Alcohol Industrial Complex in Colorado and may lose some of his fortune. Plant one billion Marijuana seeds on every square inch of property this spring of the Colorado State Government that should send a message the people are not going to take it any longer the double standard and lies.
Why do they always write these laws so that people are out of compliance from the get-go? Won’t 6 plants net more than an ounce of pot? So why have the quantity limit if you surpass it (legally, mind you) by growing your allotted 6 plants? Reality has to come into play at some point with how they write these laws, -unless they are designed to put you out of compliance from the get-go? “Oh, you have 3 ounces in your home and 6 plants. You’re a dealer and we will now forfeit your home, comrade.”
Wow! As I approach age 60 I’m so excited that I’ve witnessed legalization before leaving this life! Now if only other states like mine (Virginia) will only get on board and the Federal meanies will just leave us in peace. I’m quite sure we could find a much better use for all the money that has gone to the DEA to bust good Americans who’s only crime was to endulge in the herb. For example, I’d like to see our transportation infrastructure completely reworked for the 21st century for starters.
This may be a stupid question, but will legalization be enough of a “reasonable suspicion” for punitive companies to start drug-testing all of their Washington and Colorado workers (this particular company has sites in both states)? My boyfriend is subject to random drug testing only with reasonable suspicion and it seems that legalization would be enough for him to have to worry now… or am I just being paranoid?
[Editor’s note: Paranoid.]
Hey Paul, does I-502 specify which possesion amount hash falls under? 1 oz or 16 oz? Or is it still to be determined by the WALCB?
As I a WA resident who voted for it, thanks for the info! I read the initiative line by line, but didn’t see hash defined explicitly.
On the drug test issue. That has been a weapon, used quite well by the insurance companys and corporate America. Of course I fully understand that safety in the work place is crirltical but the way drug testing has been used is rediculious. I don’t want anyone on my job site drunk or high. Period. No place for it and it won’t be tolerated. Good men dont do that sort of thing. Driving should be looked at the same way. People’s lives are at steak. However the big boys use it as a get out of responcability card. Ive seen men piss tested laying on a strecher. It shouldn’t matter what you smoked last weekend. Insurance companys are going to fight this tooth and nail.
Never waste another seed.
Thanks NORML
Go to https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions and sign the petition if you want marijuana removed from the Federal Controlled Substance Act.
This is a finish up on the piss test issue. I’m not trying to be a bitch about it because I know I’m all for legalizing pot as much if not more that any body. It has its place. If we want to get high, we have to be responsable with it. We been screwed over long enough.
Spread the seed make more weed
Thanks NORML
I jumped for joy when I saw the results of the marijuana elections. I wish it was Texas we owe it to the Mexican people to do anything to decrease the income of the mexican cartels. The only people down there that dont want it legalized are the drug gangs or growers. My next vacation will certainely be in either Washington or Colorado. Finally we can come out of the weed closet its been 38 years for me.
Once again to the parallel with prostitution- it is surely legal in a couple of places in Nevada- but totally illegal in the other 99.99% of the USA- and the cops will bust your a** if they find out you’re spending a little quality time with a woman that they don’t think you should be with. From a purely practical standpoint, it isn’t practical for any guy in any state to travel to Nevada to go to the Bunny Ranch for an hour, when he could just answer an ad on Craigslist (or some such), and be with the lady of his choice for an hour in his own hometown without fear of arrest- if these ridiculous American prostitution laws could be modified to be in sync with the rest of the civilized world. Marijuana is legal, gays can get married, but God forbid that adult men and women should get together for some harmless consensual companionship.
Just think if organizations like NORML could lobby as hard for prostitution’s legalization as they have for marijuana’s legalization! And think about it guys- this issue is as important as marijuana- because all of you have had one time or another that you wished you could’ve gone home with the woman of YOUR choice for quality companionship- WITHOUT the threat of the cops nagging and harassing you.
Let’s begin the fight to let the men and women of America be free to choose with whom they want to spend their time with!
Just means we’ll be trading state charges for federal charges. Which is cool folks I know who’ve been to both say federal prison is nicer anyhow 😉
Everyone cussing and acting a fool, i understand you may be happy due to this monumental step toward the freedom of cannabis, but show some self respect. the fight is still a long way from being over… yes these two states have their foot in the door, but we need every educated individual to stand up and do there part to help the rest of the country in the battle of this ridiculous and outdated law. this law was put in affect back when people werent privileged to the vast abundance of information that we take for granted every day. (e.g. the internet and local broadcasting on televisions) As long as we (the pro pot of this country)
The DEA doesn’t have enough agents to enforce Prohibition. They rely on bribery, controling local police by dumping money on them.
An argument may be made by the massive US police establishment that Prohibition must be maintained or else anarchy will ensue due to lack of funds. Of course, that argument is specious. For if that were true, wouldn’t we all be much safer if alcohol Prohibition laws were re-enacted as well?
Pres Obama is beholden to big corrections and will fight this. I voted for him because Romney is worse but What a hypocrite.
I guess this means businesses in WA. and CO. can no longer fire employees for a THC positive drug test?
[Editor’s note: Unfortunately, drug testing may still happen at companies. Even if a product is legal, like tobacco, some employers will not hire tobacco (or cannabis) consumers.]
2 down and 48 to go..maybe Kentucky will be one of the next states to do the right thing and legalize cannabis…free the weed in 2012
2 steps in the right direction..but at the rate of 2 states every 42 years.. it will take 588 years to get to 30 states (60 votes in the senate) to end the war…
prolly wont be a smooth linear progression..but given how deeply entrenched the drug-war-industrial-complex is.. thats still well within the ball park…
as (CO gov) hickenlooper said ..dont break out the cheetos yet…find a way to preserve them until the 27th century…
What is the top one, two or three crop, financially, in 33 states? What is the number one crop, in value, in California. Ok, so far, so good. Now, next question: how much is legally taxed and sold in the U.S.?
Do you get this picture? I am a non user, but see the overwhelming argument from a tax and revenue generating point, to legalize, regulation, control and tax it asap. The next time anyone talks about a tax increase for our schools, our roads, our entitlements I say not more tax increases until we start taxing the largest grossing crop in the United States. As of now it goes UNTAXED!!!!
Opinion…..I don’t see any politician today stating that Pennsylvania “state” being the first state to abolish slavery in 1700’s was not a protected 10th amendment..so it’s clear, the states are fully empowered on this legislation……,Unless Obama administration believes in slavery???
We still have a long way to go. Don’t start planting your trees just yet:
http://nyti.ms/Zwiln7
I don’t consume marijuana. I haven’t touched the stuff in years.
I am a Washington State voter, and I did vote to pass I-502. I voted Yes because throwing a kid in prison for a possession charge only ruins that kid’s life, and it solves nothing.
I’m a middle-aged white collar office worker, about as bland and boring as they come. I will derive no benefit from I-502, except that it will be much easier for me to sleep at night knowing that my fellow Washingtonains will be safe from criminal prosecution for a victimless “crime”.
Congrats to CO. and WA. Been a long time waiting.
I can’t wait for Indiana to legalize, get some high grade stuff. So fed up with the mexican seedy garbage weed, and I mean seedy as fuck, nasty, half a joint smoked, starts to burn your throat, fucking disgusting stuff and that’s if you can find some.
Perfect example: http://www.420magazine.com/gallery/data/502/PICT000523.jpg
Well, anyways, huge congrats.
GOD IS PERFECT ! ! ! ! !
MAN IS NOT! ! !
MAN MADE BEER! ! !
GOD MADE POT ! ! ! ! !
Any info out there regarding if this will have a retroactive affect on people charged for possession of less than the now legalized amount? Curious how that will play out…
this message pertains to legal cannabis. ATTACKS by the DEA! they behave like an american AL QAEDA, for POWER and MONEY, Destroying the lives of Peaceful Americans. DEA cares NOT one bit about Your State’s Rights and even less about YOUR Rights and Individual FREEDOMS. the actions of the DEA mirror those of STALINIST USSR. would you support a STALINIST america? TRUE Americans wouldn’t. Please tell your congressperson/senators/governor you want the DEA to STOP Attacking Loyal Americans. Peace!
This is great. Wild is right, we got our foot in the door. Now the battle really starts. But we need to pay close attention to what’s not being said. The Feds are jocking for position. They know they can’t just piss on your leg and tell you it’s raining any more. Public opinion is not going well for them. These are people that have grown accustomed to getting they’re way and simply ignoring any opposition. It one big chest game. Move and counter move. They’re lawyers are waiting for somebody to make a wrong move and they will inact some BS that will tie our hands again. They are way too quite. I’m sure NORML knows the next move. As for us, don’t be a pawn in this game. The battle ain’t over yet. Pot is still illegal as far as the Feds are concerned.
Keep going NORML
I support the legalization if marijuana in both Colorado and Washington state. As a Denver CO resident, I refuse to follow federal law and I choose to only follow state law. Our voice needs to be heard and respected, we want cannabis legalized- we voted to have it legalized. And it MUST be respected. Obama will make me very happy if he happens to lift cannabis prohibition or at least reschedule it. Make marijuana legal, for you, me, and all of America. It’s our decision and we have spoken. If marijuana continues to stay illegal in CO even after amendment 64 passed, I will be very hurt and feel betrayed by our country. So my plea to all WA state and CO citizens is to exercise your right for change, ignore the fed’s fascist approach to marijuana and prohibition, and follow your state 100% because if we give any less effort it will not be done and prohibition will continue to exist and innocent lives will continue to be wasted and thrown in jail. Thank you all.
The DEA can only wage war on states that have legalization if they do one of the following things:
move resources away from other activities
or
ask for more funding.
(remember a government agency can never do more without more funding – otherwise they will seriously jeopardise their chances for future funding).
I really can’t see either strategy as being popular or well received. Could you imagine Obama standing up and proudly announcing either or these situations? – he would get a great deal of bad press for wasting money. So as much as they would like to do it – can they pull off the PR and politics ? And why did they remain so silent during the signatures, campaigning and voting stages ? I think they are backed into a corner because they probably hoped/assumed the votes would not pass. Maybe a case of them believing their own propaganda (surely a law legalising a schedule 1 drug could never win a majority) The voters of Washington and Colorado don’t believe the propaganda and I don’t think a majority of the USA does either.
By the way the longer the clock ticks on the DEA’s decision the worse they look – whatever they say
Looks like someone is going to have to invent a machine to determine whether or not you’re high *now* as was done with alcohol. . .
I mean, if it’s legal, you should be just as able to sit at home on your day off, or after work, and spark a doobie same as drinking beer. . .
I have read all of the above remarks…I smoked pot for years..from 68 to 95 every day…never got busted once…I did develop a psychic ability through it’s continued use…a painful process for sure…the pot helped…I look forward to a lot more folks increasing their awareness…now…That is to me what it’s all about..it’s evolution baby….be careful and descreet and quietly go into the world ….and live…and prosper….
Sign and share!
I would like to see this petition do better than those asking to secede from the nation.
If you’ve ever enjoyed a glass of wine, beer or indulged in a mixed drink to relax, it is hypocritical to vote against allowing people to use marijuana for the same purpose, or even a higher purpose…to medicate.
Studies show that in states where its medical use is legal, DWI’s, DWI related car accidents and deaths, and teenage abuse of alcohol AND marijuana are all DOWN.
Sign something that may very well make a difference and have your voice heard. Let’s stop the hypocrisy, end prohibition and the senseless, needless incarcerations!
“Creating a duplicate or similar petition will make it harder for you to get an official response. Instead, sign and help promote the one that has already been created.
The right to petition your government is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Throughout our history, Americans have used petitions to organize around issues they care about from ending slavery, to guaranteeing women’s right to vote, to the civil rights movement.”
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-marijuana-federal-controlled-substance-act-and-allow-states-decide-how-they-want-regulate-it/lzSd9fcG
I think I have a feeling as to why the Feds are staying silent on this one…federal law: (vii) 1000 kilograms or more of a mixture or substance containing a detectable amount of marihuana, or 1,000 or more marihuana plants regardless of weight.
This is why they were going after some dispensaries in my opinion…suspicion of weight and or plants going over the federal law amounts.
I doubt the Feds can do anything to block the state laws because they do not really conflict with federal law. Now if the state law said individuals could grow 101 plants; or possess 101 kg. then they’d be suing…
I doubt they could circumvent their own law; especially when it is tied up with state law; in it’s own wording.
The laws of prohibition are unconstitutional; that’s why they had to amend the constitution 2 times for alcohol prohibition, once to start it, and again to end it.
The federal government is supposed to be federalist, and follow the constitution to the letter; but some how moralist(lobbyist) law has entered into federal policy, in total disregard of the constitution of the USA.
Do they want this to be uncovered; in a legal battle? No way Jose…the US supreme court will find all drug prohibition illegal.
The feds don’t want that; so Cannabis policy can slide through uncontested, so long as they can keep the rest under wraps and prohibited.
zero
soooo true!
hearthhammer
american’s r not smart enough to c what ur sayin!
Today, Nov 13, the Washington governor met with the Assistant Attorney General and received the same answer as did the Colorado governor to their questions of whether to proceed with legalizing marihuana. The answer was no answer according the press reports. The Obama administration’s press release just restated their will to uphold federal law.
Obviously, these governors want to know if they should start spending money to do what the voters wish. If they start this process, will the government try to stop them and make all their efforts a waste.
The feds are bound to uphold the law as it stands. What else can they do? They aren’t going to look the other way when their jobs would be in jeopardy for not upholding the law. Until federal law is changed, they will fight this because it’s their job.
Just because a few million voters in Washington and Colorado want to legalize pot doesn’t carry enough weight to get the feds to change the laws. It’ll take a full legislative action by Congress and a signature by the President to get marihauna off the Schedule I list.
What to do next? Sign this petition. Let’s absolutely swamp the White House with the response.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-marijuana-federal-controlled-substance-act-and-allow-states-decide-how-they-want-regulate-it/lzSd9fcG
Relocating to CO! Fuck bible thumpers!
Free All POT Prisoners
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-marijuana-federal-controlled-substance-act-and-allow-states-decide-how-they-want-regulate-it/lzSd9fcG
Check it!
all it needed was 25k to get reviewed keep it up!
I think its bullshit im sittin here in illinois paranoid about a joint while all those people in washington and colorado dont have shit to worry bout what ever to everyone having equal rights i wanna beable to blaze that shit up anywhere i want and not go to jail…bullshit fuck this ill just keep smokin and wait for our time to come fuck the goverment suck my dick u cruked basterds lol…
LMarie – As far as retroactive don’t expect much, however I did read that Seattle pd and King county DA would be dropping all ‘pending cases’ that deal with low level possession, similar may be occurring elsewhere in the state. I think that sadly is about the best you can expect for now.
I noticed Colorado ultimately went red while Washington went blue. I find some encouragement in this alone. Hopefully we can find ‘common ground’ on the issue of reform.
smokeIT, while some police might believe it is their job to arrest and harass pot heads, it is not their job. It never was, and never will be. The police are there to handle crime and marijuana has nothing to do with crime or crimes. The fact of the matter is (even though it will not hold weight in court yet) police arresting anyone for marijuana selling or possession alone who are happily committing a crime. So really, if they *want* to do their jobs well, the police really ought to stop arresting innocent people!
Yes sir this is snowballing nicely. Just as it needs to. The Feds haven’t budged an inch. They are required by law the uphold the law. We call it brainwashed. Kind of a shitty job requirement. Public opinion is going wild. It’s easy to tell which news media is behind the legal pot side. The best thing to do is calmly keep the snowball rolling. Sign every petition you can find on legalizing pot. The big boy just want this to go away but it’s not going to happen. And if you post your own petition, use a little common since. The gang rap BS will just be ignored and your making the rest of us look bad plus wasting signatures. This is serious.
Thanks NORML
Yesterday, Nov 13, Washington Governor Gregiore said that she would keep the Justice Department informed of her state’s actions regarding the implementation of Initiative 502. This seems to be an affirmative response from the governor to the legalization of marijuana in Washington state. It would also appear that the Justice Department has not tried to discourage Washington from proceeding.
You’d think that this would be getting more press attention. This is the first time anywhere in the world that voters have voted to legalize marijuana.
Finally, it seems mary jane is following the same path as the alcohol prohibition did. I may move myself from Va to Co with a friend of mine that has family there. Las Vegas will no longer be THE party city!
kinda stupid the FEDS not learning a lesson from alcohol prohibition
This is going fascinating to watch and, frankly, something I did not think I would see in my lifetime. The Federal Government response is not the only issue. For instance, I go to Colorado on vacation for a week and smoke pot while I am there. A couple of weeks after I get back home my employer performs a random drug test on me that is positive for THC. Can I be terminated for doing something “legal” in Colorado two weeks earlier? Sticky question, especially since THC stays in the body for such a long perioid of time. Any answers.
the Kock brothers own many wood processing companys they do not want pot legal because they don’t want HEMP LEGAL.. that would kill there billion dollar lumber industry.they are thy same people who put over 1 billion dollars in roomneys campain.they are our worst enemys
Now I understand that when these amendments go into place that anyone will be able to possess cannabis, regardless of residency, but will the operators of the dispensaries require membership or anything like that? Someone please give me some feedback if you know
hey all….just a public service announcement!
i’ve noticed a lot of law enforcement action across indiana and ohio with the state troopers of each being very active. they are heavily patrolling the interstates and the state borders. they are looking for anything to pull someone over….tail lamps out, liscence plate lights out, seat belt, speeding, the whole gammit. i think they are looking heavily for trafficing. they are paranoid that now it is legal in two states and it’s going to just explode out of there or something. just a heads up to all because i’m sure this is happenening in many other states as well. i won’t try to connect any dots just yet though
dry in cinci@- Oklahoma has a life sentence penalty for cannabis- trichomes.(hashish.Yet across the state line to the north -east, Coloradians are enjoying a freedom that all Americans should aspire.
Can you just imagine, Oklahoma state troopers along the border, waiting like male tom cats in heat,,,,,for their prey.
WTF do they think this is,”Midnight Express” for christ sake’s?
LEGALISE!!!!!
I heard it was $18,000 for a license
Please legalize in South Carolina too!!! Especially for the disabled. I am soooo very happy to see the end of prohibition beginning. THANKYOU WASHINGTON ST AND COLORADO FOR TAKING THE FIRST STEPS SINCE CALIFORNIA, ETC
Please sign the White House petition to let Marc Emery complete his sentence in Canada
http://wh.gov/XXp9
Would be nice if I could move so I could grow. I just enjoy it and I don’t even smoke, I just like growing.
I would like to see the feds still looking at who and what they do, for our kids and teens. Legalization is great! However, we still have criminal elements that are NOT NICE people, and harm us and our Society. Let’s not forget to regulate this “Exactly the same” as we would the dangers of living a life of Substance abuse, such as the addictive “Alcohol”. Marijuana’s lack of physically addicting qualities does not preclude it from being abused like anything else, thus degrading our potential in life. Let it revolve around our life’s, and not our lives around it!
,lets, ,degrade our existince bacause of our future generations,
like our DNA is not substantia,l? well i guess it is….LOL
Its for the unborn,,,(politicians)….that is!
Whats going to happen in the courts when it comes to distinguishing the difference between usage and impairment? The courts still havn’t realized there is a difference between usage and impaiment. Knowing the difference will determine when the courts can prosecute employees and/or employers for employment drug policies. There will be allot of misunderstandings and law suits for urine drug tests. The current urine tests only test for metabolites which shows usage. Not the active THC in the blood that causes impaiment. So even though legalization has begun there is still allot of work to do if people don’t want thier privacy invaded or discriminated against using marijuana on their own time.
ITS SWEET THAT AT LEAST SOMWHERE IN THE “FREE” WORLD U CAN SMOKE & NOT WORRY ABOUT THE COPS TAKING YOUR ASS TO JAIL BUT ITS BULLSHIT THAT SOMTHING CAN BE ILLEGAL IN ONE PART OF AMERICA AND 2500 MILES WEST ITS OK WTF WE ARE ALL AMERICANS DIDNT WE HAVE A CIVIL WAR OVER SOMETHING BEING OUTLAWED IN ONE PART OF AMERICA AND ILLEGAL IN ANOTHER?
I KNOW BUT U GET MY DRIFT LOL
Best way to beat it at this point is to show that this is what the majority of America wants, the petition that is up is a great way to show the Feds we need to get that petition into the millions. It’s also a great way for those not already, to get involved in the fight and let your voices be heard.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-marijuana-federal-controlled-substance-act-and-allow-states-decide-how-they-want-regulate-it/lzSd9fcG
Forgot a comma after Feds, so no one gets confused.
i’m just wondering what happen to those people in jail for the possession, used, and sell of marijuana? Will they still be in jail since marijuana is legalize? Will their jail sentences decrease?
I need the answer to that question since I’m having a speech on it.
Thanks
In Washington we good with same sex marriages, having the state stoned, but would prefer to see people hurt in car wrecks because people have issues with studded tires. What about the semi-trucks? Idiots and now we will have more due to stoned idiots making decisions.
It seems like we are the Divided States instead of United States, in many things! Why?
I have a Commercial Drivers License(CDL) and live in Portland Oregon. I think it would be real great if I could drive up to Washington and smoke weed legally. Having a CDL means I am subject to random Drug Tests administered by the Department Of Transportation(DOT). It is my understanding that if I were to fail a UA, my excuse “I was in Washington state 3 or 4 days ago, when i smoked” would fall on deaf ears at the DOT. But the fact would remain that i was not operating a CDL vehicle while impaired and I did not break the law when I smoked in Washington. I am wondering, if this situation ever came to pass if i would have a fighting chance in a legal battle? I know that many laws have grey ares but this is just about the greyest i can think of. Is there any one out there with an intelligent response to this hypothetical situation?
[Paul Armentano responds: DOT is a federal agency and is under federal drug testing guidelines so the change is state law would not provide protection against these federal drug testing policies.]
At last, we are finally entering the age and era of sane, rational, and common-thinking use. I always knew marijuana would become legal in my lifetime!!!! let the high times begin!!!!!!!!!
Wow! The United States Air Force sent me in 1973 to NKP Thailand for a 68 day TDY. There I was introduced to my new and everlasting love of high grade landrace Thai Stick (YUMMM!!!) and then to Alaska in late ’73 so I could sample Matanuska Thunderfuck. It was the time of the $40 lid…There’s an old pothead term…Anyhow’s I am in fantasyland with the fact that us old Hippies have finally made headway in the silly ass notion to make illegal a plant that GOD gave to us to use and enjoy. Had GOD not intended man to use cannabis, HE would have made it into a thistle. As far as “stupid pothead assholes now out driving around causing accidents”,…well hell we have been doing it for over 50 years now, and how many accidents are on record for pot compared to that poison called ALCOHOL! Also most stoners are too baked to get off the couch(that’s why pizza places deliver)so unless we are on the way to score would be the reason to drive in the first place. Congrats NORML, for keeping up the fight all these years, and kudo’s to WA. and CO. for their insight and wisdom on the billions spent on the ignorant Drug War(may Nixon roast in Hell)….Thank you for allowing me to post on my most favorite love and medicine
Oh yeah,…I forgot,…that happens sometimes…when I get too stoned…I usually pass out on the couch…But what the Hell…I just wake and bake again…It sucks to be disabled, but this new insight into legalization…Colorado isn’t that far away and besides it’s beautiful there as it is in Washington
all i can do is smile about this 🙂
What a long , overdue issue that should have been a vote for the entire country, not just the 2 states that did finally legalize a harmless herb. Now the rest of the states need to follow their lead and lets all be free to grow the plant of our choice and purchase some marijuana by the ounce as needed for medical or just plain relief. I am optimistic that we shall follow our 2 great pot states and get this plant freed for all of us. It should be legal for any reason for anyone who wants or needs marijuana if you are of age. Some steps should be taken to ensure people are not driving under the influence,that being said i cant foresee any other problems.(besides the feds)Tennessee would be my choice for the next legal state. Plenty of sick, and regular smokers here and no other states in the south and only one in the mid-west are even medical states. We need the quality weed here and then maybe there would not be so many crackheads and meth heads in this part of the country. At least one state should rally and get it going here down south with is often overlooked. Cultivation of huge amounts are possible in this climate which is perfect for most strains and with light and dark controlled you could get two outdoor harvest a year just as they do with corn. The light could be blocked by a heavy duty tarp or something. Then comes jobs for this struggling area then taxes. Just cant figure out whats taking so long for everyone see this.It is clear to me that marijuana is a harmless ,helpful, and with the right laws a job producer and great way for the state to get some much needed income.
Is a petition to legalize pot being circulated in the state of Kansas? If so, how can I help? If not, How can I get one started? Thank you, JMP
Let freddom ring!
The POWER OF THE PEOPLE is what really rules this country.
Just need to replace a few stubborn prohibitionist at the federal level!!!!
Support legislators working on our behalf..
just think, cannabis hemp can be used to build houses, make plywood and being extremely lightweight and strong — very earthquake resistant.
How about legalizing prostitution now? any takers? We don’t have a csa to get rid of so it should be easier. People should be allowed to pay for sex. Mandatory testing would be commonplace instead of the dirty world of prostitution now. Also, just maybe we’d have less rape and other sex crimes.
It enters your brain and makes you insane,
And as it does, it gives you a buzz.
The kings new clothes are looking a little thin.
Thanks Norml
THANK YOU NORML I LOVE THE HARD WORK YOU DO FOR US