Iowa, America’s breadbasket, home to liberal scion Tom Harkin and conservative contrarian Charles Grassley, is vetting the issue of medical marijuana politically like no other previous state has by conducting a series of public testimonies, convened by the Iowa Pharmacy Board (who was ordered by a Polk County judge to do so in April in response to lawsuits brought by medical marijuana patients in Iowa against the IPB).
Two of the first four public hearings have already happened (August 19 in Des Moines and Sept. 2 in Mason City); the next hearings are:
October 7 in Iowa City and November 4, Council Bluffs
At the Mason City hearing on September 2, eight speakers, all but one in favor of medical marijuana law reforms, spoke out against the prohibition of medical marijuana in Iowa.
Des Moines resident and multiple sclerosis patient Ray Lakers, 42, who was jailed for possessing less than a gram of medical marijuana in 2005, spoke of medical marijuana’s utility and benefit to his life. Conversely, Maedene Sappenfield of Mason City spoke out against it in the Globe Gazette, “I have a son-in-law in North Carolina who has MS and he functions without marijuana very well, so it is possible.”
Watch news video of the Mason City hearing here.
The IPB does not have the authority to legalize marijuana for medical use, but it could suggest to lawmakers to move marijuana to a schedule lower than I. In turn, Iowa lawmakers would have to pass amending legislation. An AP article indicates an interesting legislative challenge (some would say ‘poison pill’): “the [IPB] said that the drug [marijuana] would have to be used as treatment in all states for Iowa to reclassify it.”
Keep up with the legal and legislative struggle to bring medical marijuana to Iowa at: http://blog.iowamedicalmarijuana.org/
Thanks for the report……and putting us back on the map…
I could function without my blood pressure or cholesterol pills. Does this mean there is no reason for them to be available? Maedene Sappenfield, and others like her, are selfish and ignorant.
We had over 30+ speak in support and 2 detractors who had a different point of view afterwords. The first accoutn of 8 was based on # of speakers at lunch per registration #. I was #13 at 1:45 pm. Five people pre-registered for times also.
As far as she knows, her son-in-law doesn’t use medical marijuana. As far as she knows.
click medical marijuana forum to left for video-
http://www.kimt.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=4205@kimt.dayport.com&navCatId=3
http://kaaltv.com/article/stories/S1119184.shtml?cat=10219
Should Medical Marijuana be Legal in Iowa
(ABC 6 NEWS) — Should marijuana be legal for use to relieve the pain from some medical conditions?
That’s the center of a debate-taking place right now in Iowa today.
“There’s a lot of people suffering from chronic pain,” said Chris Young who is in a wheelchair.
“It’s a constant pain in the right side of my body,” says Ray Lakers.
Lakers and Young both suffer from pain.
Lakers has Multiple Sclerosis and Young broke his back in a diving accident.
They’re just two of more than a dozen who shared their medical marijuana success stories with the Iowa Pharmacy Board on Wednesday.
Both Lakers and Young say marijuana works better than pharmaceutical drugs.
“The relief it provided me was nowhere in comparison to relief and the benefit from using marijuana,” says Lakers.
“To tell you the truth, marijuana is far more effective and has far less side effects than those medications,” says Young.
Maedene i’m glad your son in law functions very well without using cannabis, I only hope that the drugs that he is using are not slowly killing him. Have you read the side affects of the drugs he is taking? Let us look at the side affects of cannabis. #1 An extreme feeling of happiness, and well being. #2 An increased appetite. Just what are the side affects of the usual drugs given for MS? I know a man with MS, he said the drugs given to him by the Drs pretty much turned him into a zombie. Then he tried cannabis, well lets just say he certainly didn’t look, or act like a zombie when I met him.
If I sound stupid forgive me however, this is good news really. A Polk County judge made it happen after lawsuits – that sounds good to me. People are doing the right thing and keeping the issue in the faces of the nay-sayers.
Click on the news video and listen please.
Way to go to the two men in the video who spoke.
There’s times I get so discouraged over the delay of Decrim and Legalize issues but this brings me back to center and gives me a glimmer of hope.
Look at these two quotes, the first in support of cannabis medicine and the second opposed:
Des Moines resident and multiple sclerosis patient Ray Layers, 42, who was jailed for possessing less than a gram of medical marijuana in 2005, spoke of medical marijuana’s utility and benefit to his life. Conversely, Maedene Sappenfield of Mason City spoke out against it in the Globe Gazette, “I have a son-in-law in North Carolina who has MS and he functions without marijuana very well, so it is possible.”
Apparently it was necessary to discredit Ray by telling everyone he was “jailed for possessing less than a gram of medical marijuana” while Maedene (perhaps busted for something in her past) was protected from mentioning that. Of course I don’t know if she ever was but my point is that Ray’s arrest did not need to be mentioned. This could have some believe he is a criminal that should not be taken seriously. I’m just sayin’.
So Maedene says “I have a son-in-law in North Carolina who has MS and he functions without marijuana very well, so it is possible.”
It boggles my mind when prohibitionists reason in this way. Do they not realize this argument is invalid?
How about this Maedene:
My father lives in Southern California. He has 4 vertebrates fused in his lower neck and he functions very well without Oxycodone or Vicodin, so it is possible.
So he prefers taking a less damaging over the counter pain killer and live with some pain. That just happens to be his choice. If he prefers that or using cannabis or whatever to alleviate his pain it is his choice. The same should be allowed for people that prefer cannabis to alleviate their ailments whatever condition they may have.
I just hope that Iowa does the right thing, and fast. The people of their state sorely need it.
I’d wish congress or the president review the Control Substance Act of 1970. It has becoming more of an excuse to say, “sorry”.
An AP article indicates an interesting legislative challenge (some would say ‘poison pill’): “the [IPB] said that the drug [marijuana] would have to be used as treatment in all states for Iowa to reclassify it.”
“We demand to be the tail! Not the head!” those who promoted this aspect of the legislation cried out. Ironically, it was members of the HCC and HTTC who were shouting this the loudest.
HCC – Hyper-Conservative Congregation
HTTC – Holier-Than-Thou Congregation
Majority voting has been working in a democracy since its inception Goverment needs to ask and listen , the minority must accept the majority, i can’t believe how often it is, the few are directing the many ?
Why don’t we go to a American vote of medical marijuana?! Enough of the state-by-state crap. Liberal Wisconsin can’t get its head out of its butt.
I live in Iowa an i think iowa needs to do like that town in Colorado, the town called Buckingridge where they got 3 times the signatures they needed to loosing the laws on it
Put it on the ballot and skip these obstructionists
Let me be the first from Iowa to post here.
I will be going to the Iowa City hearings. I will let all of you know my thoughts on it at that time.
One thing I do know, there are a lot of rec cannabis and Medical cannis supporters here in Iowa.
More people smoke cannabis here than polls show too. I mean really. Would you answer truthfully on a poll if you thought there was a chance of the info getting out? NOO!! Many people here in Iowa only talk to those that are in the know.You never know where or who is watching or listening. This is more reason to legalize. We shouldnt have to be wondering who is watching. No wonder we are paranoid. We have to fear our government, thats tryanny …Not liberty or freedom.
I look at prohibition like alcoholism.
If your in it,unless you admit to its damage and try to change it, you deny its harms and wont listen to or accept reason.
I sincerely hope Iowa becomes the next Med state. We should also concider legal hemp. Our food prices are much higher due to using corn in Ethanol. Hemp could replace all the ethanol production,make food cheaper as well as fuel. If none of ya have yet, go to the Iowa norml site. It shows the huge piles of hemp we used to harvest here.
Its funny how veiws are changing. I ran into a couple in their 40-50’s yesterday. I had no idea I would end up into a conversation about cannabis and drug cartels. They had some idea of the truth of it all,but by the time I was done talking, they were shocked at the money cartels and terrorists make from our supporting prohibition and how the US forces its influence on other countries through prohibition. It was about a 45 minute conversation that was good.
Any way, I’m looking forward to Iowa City next month. I imagine I will here many interesting conversations.
Actually there were 32 speakers and only 2 against. Both speakers against changed their minds before they left.
@R.O.E.
I am Ray Layers(typo by Allen), only it is Ray Lakers, Iowans 4 Medical Marijuana. I can’t wait for Iowa City.
Iowa Board of Pharmacy Medical Marijuana Public Hearings promo
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Wednesday, October 7, 2009 – Noon to 7:00 p.m.
University of Iowa
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Hell Yea #16
To those that say put it to a vote. I dont think they want to because they know they would lose. Some people will never change.Hopefully enough do.
I wonder which doors Maedene feels will be opened by allowing sick people to use marijuana? Allowing all to use it? By that logic, should we not ban all pharmaceuticals?
Medical Marijuana’s Great (And Odd) Midwest Test:IOWA
with of parade of wheelchairs, canes, lucky SOB’s* like me still on our feet telling our story in FOUR CITIES, FOUR MONTHS…
There is a lot of confusion about what is going on in Iowa. In May of 2008, I filed a petition with the Iowa Board of Pharmacy to remove marijuana from Schedule I of the Iowa Controlled Substances Act because it has accepted medical use in the United States. That’s because 13 states have accepted medical use of marijuana since 1996. The Board said it wanted scientific proof. I’m sorry, but there’s no amount of science that can prove those 13 states have not accepted the medical use of marijuana. A Polk County District Court judge agreed with me on April 21, 2009, and ordered the Board to rule on my petition without any science. The Board again rejected my petition on July 21, 2009, saying the judge ignored the law. The judge has another hearing set for September 21, 2009, to review the Board’s July 21, 2009, ruling. The court did not order the Board to hold public hearings or to review the scientific literatue. The Board is doing that on it’s own because it is embarrassed I won in court. They are scrambling to find a reason to reclassify marijuana based on science instead of law. I don’t blame them for doing that, but NORML owes its readers the full explanation of what’s going on, rather than the smoke screen the Board of Pharmacy is throwing over it.
We don’t limit the amount of Drug stores and neither should the amount of dispenseries in any Town or City be limited . By the way …The Drug , Alcohol and Tobacco Companies have come out with a New propaganda / B.S. ad on the radio . It starts w/ a Mother telling her son that soon they will be doing Drug testing in his School . So , she asks him if he’s ever done marijuana ? She then says , cocaine , heroin , speedballs , etc . What these Companies are attempting to do is combine all the hard Drugs w/ marijuana to decieve you the gullible into believing marijuana is exactly like Heroin so , you won’t smoke ” Pot ” . They do this because they are dishonest . They do this for their own financial greed because w/ cannabis their sales will go down .
ALCOHOL / PRESCRIPTION DRUGS / TOBACCO can kill or cause permanent health problems . These problems can often be irreversible leading you to take more and more of their drugs .
Marijuana DOES NONE of these things .
i use marijuana to prevent frm getting sick ,some say its rec use but the ones that say that r drinkin beer for there rec use n e way smoke up for 2010
nor does it lead you to taking their drugs for relief or to aleviate problems cause by Alcohol , tobacco or other ” hard ” drugs .
God this debate gets sooo fukin old. Clearly almost all of the country is pot friendly. And yet our gov refuses to change anything. Oh a state or two will throw some scraps to keep people shut up but overall there is no more debate on pots harmfulness… cuz it aint. It all boils down to the INESCAPABLE corruption thats has infected this country like a cancer. And i personally promise all of you we will see martial law or a completely controlled and policed state before legalization happens.
How do you people not get or see that since any of uis have been alive our country has only INCREASED, enhanced and enforced more stupid laws than its repealed. Even your own precious Obama who was to be this countrys saviour LAUGHED in our faces FRESH from election proving quite quickly he never intended to lessen government control and showed he too was in the very rich pocket of someone else. Hah with our level of debt hes probably Hu Jintao’s lap dog.
Agreed General-Jake, sadly agreed.
Another part is all of this is piece meal stuff. “Let the Legalizer’s think they’re making progress and we’ll do nothing while they talk.”
This doesn’t mean I give up, it just means I’m realistic to myself. Sorry, Obummer won’t do a thing fellow MJ supporters until… and it’s an ugly truth but we have to get Ugly as well. We have to sacrifice ourselves if this madness is to ever end. Can you do that?
Carl#24:
Can you give us more info on this petition you filed
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Rev Ray Green;
Thanks for the video. Maybe I’ll see you at Iowa City?
I just dont get it. In the video they said they need more scientic data. What the hell? Either they are purposely ignoring the scientific facts already there or they just dont know. Somebody send these people the facts ..pls.
The other thing that grinds my ass is this…. They say allowing med cannabis is opening the door for rec use…DUH! HELLO ALL YOU SO SMART PEOPLE!! People use it for recreational ANYWAY!!! YOUR prohibition ISNT STOPPING ANYONE! Please get over that arguement.
Yes, sir. The petition and all the court documents are posted at: http://www.iowamedicalmarijuana.org/petitions/iowa.aspx
It’s very simple. Marijuana has accepted medical use in the United States and no longer meets the statutory requirement for inclusion in Schedule I. The Iowa Board of Pharmacy cannot explain why it has not removed marijuana from Schedule I, because it should have removed it 13 years ago when states began accepteing it for medical use.
You go R.O.E., I definitely like your style. If you don’t remember I’m one of those who won’t inhale because of the possible ramifications. It is really hard to abstain however, I do it.
In addition to my comment (#31) this is my plan:
Move to Portland Oregon, join the NORML Chapter there, retain a NORML approved lawyer and then get busy in whatever way NORML recommends or suggests. Talk, get in law makers faces, never stop. I will go beyond MJ advocacy and challenge Lobbyist’s as well.
We may be moving come October/November. If that’s not possible then June. We’re saving our money now.
BTW, we live in Utah. The Mormon’s have a strangle hold on this state and I really believe it’ll be one of the last states to accept MJ.
Medical marijuana is real. I have Multiple Sclerosis, and went blind in 2003. High Steroid doses returned enough vision to walk, but I could not see colors, and had a blank spot in the middle with good peripheral vision. I started marijuana after not having used any since the 70’s. My vision eventually came fully back. Yes, it may have anyway. But I was blind, and have wanted to suggest others going blind from MS should try it. The difference for me, after 10 months, was full recovery. The doctors are afraid to take the concept publicly, but it helped me. There is some science behind this.
#33 thats exacly right more an more people r comming out and getting more brave for our fight not jus medical rec use too
Thank you Joe Rancher…..
New online Poll right now Mason City Globe-Gazette..
http://www.globegazette.com/articles/2009/09/06/opinion/editorials/doc4aa1f6f7a047f753744537.txt
Right now it’s a combined 69% in favor
http://www.globegazette.com
i pray to JAH, that the Iowa Board of Pharmacey will do the right ting and move Iowa into the future, NOW! This will not go away. do it now not later… one lov
I Love Science
It is Unconstitutional and inhumane to deprive people of treatment that works for them. Prohibitionists need to re-read the Constitution and stop trying to run other people’s lives. The citizens of this and other nations have suffered too long enough under the hypocritical, illogical, unscientific and counter productive tyrany of prohibitionists. WE MUST IMMEDIATELY STOP THE INSANITY OF THIS MASSIVELY FAILED DRUG POLICY.
I would love to see this happen but i live in iowa and i am not very optimistic.The laws are very harsh here and dont see Iowa legalizing until 49 other states have done so.My mom suffers from fibromyalgia and we are thinking of moving to colorado to so she can get off of the pain meds shes addicted (and which the doctors are happy to prescribe)….but in my opinion this is all grand standing to avoid the lawsuit.Please god let me be wrong.
By the way Carl Olsen, THANK YOU !!
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How do we stop it Immediately Mike Stroup?
Alcoholic Beverages = thousands of Calories
Marijuana = NO calories
Prescription drugs – Dependence/ costly /addiction
Marijuana = None of the above
Modern thought demands that change attempt to take using peaceful means. Sadly Lea i live in the real world. Ive been around and seen alot. From my obseravtions ive learned that two things and two things only change the status quo; and those are MONEY and VIOLENCE. Period. Based on that, you tell me what to sacrifice for the betterment of our people? (meaning the stony nation) and then we will talk.
Medical cannabis. It is usefull in treating many disorders/diseases. The only one I can confidently speak of is CANCER. I have treated, successfully I might add, two Basal Cell Carcinoma lesions on my head. The substance used to treat these skin cancer lesions was Cannabis Oil. It took 8 weeks of treatment to CURE these cancers. The ONLY side affect was a bit of itching, and some redness around the lesions. The redness faded shortly after the treatment was completed, and in over a year the cancer has NOT returned. This treatment requires no one to stick a needle into your flesh, and inject a rather painfull shot of anesthetic, nor does it require a surgeon to cut into your flesh with his scaple. I have had six(6) of these surgeries, perhaps I am a wus, I don’t know, but these surgeries were an absolute horror for me, especialy considering they were all on my head, neck, and face. Tell me Maedene which would you prefer, the needle, and the knife, or a small drop of cannabis oil placed on the lesion? God forbid, but someday in the future when a doctor stands ready to plunge a needle into you cheek as he did mine, might you not wish you had given this a little more thought?
OBJECTIVE
The Green Door Referendum is a “FREE THINKING GRASS ROOTS MOVEMET BY WE THE PEOPLE.” We are a global cultural community. We are many in the world. Although religion, politics, and opinions…joint or severable are of no consequence, we are of many different religions, many different politics, with many different opinions…joint and severable. “WE ARE A COMMON CULTURE” protecting ourselves from the injustice(s) created by an unjust law. That unjust law is prohibition. Wer are all…no matter who…no matter where…committed to our culture, which includes cannabis for religious use, medicinal use, and resonsible use by adults. We are an aggressive movement who’s intent is to return cannabis to its legal status, prior to 1937, and to regard cannabis as “DIVINE SANCTION.”
On the merits of the argument…the law was created by greedy men with ulterior motives. The law regarding cannabis was created with deception and no substancial reasoning, other than to control the migrant mexican workers during the depression. We the People…regard that action as “voidable” under the circumstances. Prohibition of cannabis pumped up the newly formed Bureau of Narcotics coffers greatly…keeping it alive. Perhaps the biggest cause of prohibition was the special interests of certain individuals who would be adversely effected by its legal status. All in all…the reasons for its prohibition are flimsy at best, and don’t hold water in today’s society…in fact are a detriment to societies advancement. If we are talking about advancing society, this out-dated, nonsensical, unjust law is a major hurdle to achieving that objective. We will never advance by advancing prohibition. Prohibition is just a way for the King to tell the people what to do. But…the King is only the King, if he has loyal subjects. We are not loyal to prohibition, or nobility in this country. When the law does more harm than it does good…common sense dictates its change. It’s a choice of “ONE.” It’s a “MANDATE TO PERFORM.” If our elected
representatives cannot see this, without our intervention, then those representatives need a change of scenary as well, as provided for in our Constitution…”WHEN IN THE DUE COURSE, IT BECOMES NECESSARY.”
Therefore…we gather under the plain hunter green polo/T-shirt as our battle flag. We wear our colors proudly, and spread our message when ever questioned
…”WHAT DOES THE GREEN MEAN?” We intend to make our point, and we will not go quietly into the night. We will slug it out all the way. “WE WILL FREE CANNABIS FROM ITS BONDAGE.”
P.S. to 5:15 p.m.
R.O.E.
How are you feeling now? We’re gonna get there!
R.S.V.P Rebel with a Cause aka Manford Mantis
The FDA approved Marinol ( synthetic THC)to treat loss of appetite from chemo and wasting from AIDS. So why isn’t the natural form also acceptable as a medicine? Shouldn’t this cause the government to reschedule the natural form of THC? Where is Marinol on their schedule?
The petition I filed in May of 2008 said that marijuana must be removed from Schedule I because it has accepted medical use in treatment in 13 states in the United States. I filed one with the Iowa Board of Pharmacy and the other with the DEA. The Iowa Board of Pharmacy ruled on my petition in October of 2008 and the DEA ruled on my petition in December of 2008. Both of them said that states don’t matter, only science. In April of 2009, a Polk County District Court ruled the Iowa Board of Pharmacy did not to see any science and told the Iowa Board of Pharmacy to rule on my petition without any science. In July of 2009, the Iowa Board of Pharmacy denied my petition again for the same reason and then announced these series of 4 public hearings and a review of the scientific literature. In the July Order, the Board said the Iowa District Court was wrong. The Iowa Distric Court has set another hearing for September 21, 2009. The Board is continuing with the hearings. So, Eric is right. The Board is just grandstanding. However, I still have them cornered and there’s no escape. They cannot explain why they are not obeying the law. The federal court of appeals just dismissed my case against the DEA saying I don’t have an injury that will be cured by a favorable ruling. My plan is to get the Attorney General of Iowa to file the petition with the DEA.
Every states Attorey General should do their job and sue the DEA.
What i don’t understand is how that they can say that there is no science when there are hundreds of state of the art,double blind,pure reviewed,placebo controlled studies out there.Also organizations like the American College of Physicians,American Public Health Association,American Nurses Association and many others in favor of medical cannabis.Things like this makes me believe that there is other motives at work or personal opinions and ignorance are clouding the judgment of these so called medical professionals.In that case they need to be removed from their positions for the safety of Iowa patients.
Completely understand what you’re saying General-Jake, #46. (although your first sentence is a bit confusing).
And I will pursue any means necessary to move to this movement forward, MINUS Violence.
If you think its rough in Iowa try living in Texas they will damn near give you the electric chair for smoking a joing when will the madness end
Many thanks to Carl Olson. It is people like him that are forcing the issue in the right place at the right time and in the right way. I wish him all the best. We should all follow his example and that of MPP, NORML, LEAP and SAFER. These people are doing what needs to be done for prohibition to finally be lifted. Godspeed to our friends.
What I don’t understand is how that they can say there is no science when there are hundreds of state of the art, double blind, peer reviewed, placebo controlled studies out there.
Eric, Here’s one of the ironies. They’re going to turn all of us into experts on this matter! I have to admit it’s a pure hassle that they expect each one of us to go on trial and be able to recite a litany of benefits, instead of just doing their homework and learning it on their own, but the upshot is they are bringing all of us closer together to scrutinize their crooked ways and causing all of us to learn way more than we ever anticipated about this issue/these issues.
Things like this makes me believe that there is other motives at work …
Well that’s for sure! Pfizer was just fined a few billion dollars!
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601202&sid=aUFw98mJm7co
“The four-year investigation uncovered a range of practices, including kickback payments to doctors in the sale of nine other drugs, among them the impotence drug Viagra and cholesterol pill Lipitor, officials said.”
The big pharma makes insane amounts of money, and their shareholders do too. Not that ~ $2 Billion dollars puts that much of a dent in nearly $50 Billion dollars in profits!
Conflict of interest is extremely effective in making people turn a blind eye and a deaf ear. They ignore the suffering they are causing now. I bet many of them think they are Golden Rule followers.
There is an awesome website that keeps track of campaign contributions and allows you to do all sorts of searches and see the data in many ways:
http://www.OpenSecrets.org/
Want to see who’s giving the most for the 2010 elections?
http://www.OpenSecrets.org/industries/mems.php?party=A&cycle=2010
Pop up the menu to see who gave the most during the 2008 cycle.
Of note is that in 18th place in 2008 was Pharma, they’re already at #11 place for the 2010 cycle.
Go to these pages:
http://www.OpenSecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=H04
http://www.OpenSecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=H4300
To see a table of contributions from “Pharmaceutical Manufacturing” and “Pharmaceuticals / Health Products.”
Kind of interesting to see they could tell the Democrats were headed for a win, so they split their contributions 50/50 between the Dems and Repubs.
This is a powerful website.
yes mon, a biggup for carl olsen, the one and only Zion coptic soldier, one lov brother carl… keep us moving forward… PEACE & LOVE
Okay Iowa legalizes gay marriages and still want to debate over Marijuana? this is a joke right? I am so sick of this crap! I have had enough! It is time for these crooked self rightous politicians to go! Show me one place in the bible where God or Jesus said one thing about Marijuana but they sure do talk alot about adultery, divorce and homosexuals but you politicians are going to tell Marijuana users they are morally bankrupt so much they need to be incarcereated? Ah heck no I don’t think so enough is enough how dare you judge us! IT IS OUR TIME PEOPLE WE MUST STAND UP TO THESE PERSECUTIONS FROM THESE HYPOCRITES! People get your donations in to NORML remember five dollars a month from each member will generate thousands and dont forget to watch and support the NORML conference coming up Sept 24 were our leadership will emerge and tell us were we go from here with these crooked self rightous politicians. And people we all are going to have to work wheather its getting out the word of fake self rightous politicians who we need to get out of office to campaigning for those politicians who support us to sending in our five dollars a month. We are the children of NORML and we will not back down now or ever for we and our mother NORML are a force to be reckoned with!
Nandi, you don’t seem to know what is going on here in Iowa. I filed a petition telling the Board to remove marijuana from Schedule I because it has accepted medical use in the United States and the law clearly says anything in Schedule I must be removed if it has accepted medical use. The Board of Pharmacy violated a court order and decided to hold these public hearings instead of obeying the court. If you look into this a little deeper than it is being reported by the media, you’ll see something is going on here in Iowa that is extremely significant in the overall scheme of things. I’ve managed to get a court in Iowa to agree the Board of Pharmacy is disobeying the law. This is going to snowball. Get ready for the avalanche.
Repectfully, Maedene Sappenfield is an idiot. I have MS, and a person with MS can have up to thirty different side effects, In my case I have ten, with three of them pretty serious, and only the miracle drug – Marijuana – helps me with all ten of my side effects ( I have asked my doctor to suggest something else, he can not). I feel sorry for Maedene’s son in law, yea he functons, but what kind of pain is he in? And Maedine must not like her son in law to much to make him suffer.
What the hell is wrong with this picture? It’s Iowa, land of the draconian right wingers. For those who weren’t alive at the time. The Iowa National Guard was called in to make Amish students attend public school…That made national news from their blantent pious abuse of the US Constitution, that was a joke for a few months.
Same sex marriages but no compassion for those who need relief from pain, what the hell kind of message does that send the world? The sate wonders why youndg people exit, dauh do we have to penbcil it on your forehead to read when you look in the mirror. Iowa is manaaged by dinasours, get rid of them!
These antiques and mouth pieces who can’t even quote crediable sources controlling the State of Iowa make us look like hicks with straw between our teeth. Talking out the sides of their mouths, my dad said this, my dad said that >>> BS. Your dad needs to shut his mouth and so do you. GET A REAL JOB. You are claiming no medical evidence, well what court elected your dad spokesperson for Iowa and the Constitution? What don’t you understand about the reams of medical data collected around the world on marijuanas benifits? Cost well, somewhere around $2 billion yearly to make criminals out of otherwise peaceful citizens.
The German high court has just passed down a ruling that the government has no right to styme personal creativity via the use of marijuana, a step beyond medical use. Do you own your own mind Iowans or does the government?
What the hell gives these relics who should be taken out of their positions to dictate the legitimate use of a natural herbal substance with zero overdose deaths a year? 10,000 years of use and still there!
If an individual is a legal consenting adult male or female, what you do with YOUR own mind and body is your business..not the governments.
Maybe a direct collateral attack should be undertaken on the law. If a woman has control over her mind and body, i.e. right to have an abortion, then I would expand this to a civil rights violation based on sexual discrimination. Every consenting adult person has the right to their own body if no harm comes to another.
I have serious eye problems caused by coughing spells from asbestos exposure, I have a herniated L3 vertabre, I just had a total knee replacement, which was botched>> Doctor’s approach to pain>>> had me take 600 Viocodin, 400 Tramadal, 100 Codeine; and wanted me to take more. I couldn’t take them anymore, I am in constant everyday pain, and the Iowan assholes in charge think they know it all, I would like to show them PAIN…
PAIN IS INEVITABLE TO SOME >>> SUFFERING IS NOT
NORML has tried the Roe v. Wade approach. See NORML v. Bell, 488 F. Supp. 123 (D.D.C. 1980). You’ll see that case cited every time someone tries to make this argument based on the right to control your own body. I’ve got the only legal argument that can tear this down, and I’ve already won a preliminary ruling in Iowa District Court. I go back to court on Monday, September 21, 2009, for round 2. The Board of Pharmacy says accepted medical use in the United States means all 50 states, 13 is not enough. We’ll see what the judge has to say about that. No state can every decide what the law is in another state. The Full Faith and Credit clause of the U.S. Constitution requires Iowa to acknowledge that 13 state have accepted medical use of marijuana and that makes it accepted in the United States as a matter of law. Watch and see.
Thank You Carl you are one of many seriously great advocatse and have done a truly wonderful thing theres debates all over the internet now about Canabis in Iowa this isnt just a fight for Canabis/Marijuana this is a fight for freedom , Freedom of Choice ,Freedom of Expression, Freedom of Speech and the Freedom to the Persuit of Happiness . i dont have a story about a physical illness but one of heartbreak i smoked Marijuana for stress anxiety and my ADD i smoked a bit while i was pregnent to keep myselff stress free and to have a happy baby im now a “child abuser” it would have been ok for me to have had an abortion as the state sees it but not a happy pregnancy so it would have been justifiable for me to have been a murder “im my eyes” but not a healthy happy mother i told this to my worker and she said i acctualy had a good point and i did but it didnt matter im a child abuser for it for 10yrs i cant work with kids but my own I AM A GOOD MOM since this i have been advocating anywhere i can this is an injustic to make me question being a good mom i will give my life for my children their are my world my hope my love my heart i will not let them grow up thinking that somthing god gave us is wronge Gensis 112 look it up if you dont know it marijuana is not a drug it is a medicine a true medicine a healthy choice for lifes alments BTW my son was born 8lb 7oz very healthy with a slow heart rate wich means he was born stress free hes a very happy baby and very healthy just know we are everywhere we are everyone we know the truth from the lies we are the children and the grand children of the babyboomers our generation and our childrens greneration will and do know the truth we will stand and we will fight with our words and our knoledge and we will prevail .. oh and i watched this last night…. http://www.hulu.com/watch/94808/paranormal-tv-emperor-of-hemp-the-jack-herer-story Thank You
No state can determine what the law is in another states. Iowa law says marijuana has no accepted medical use in treatement in the United States. Thirteen states say marijuana have accepted medical use in their states. Iowa law requires the Board of Pharmacy to make recommendations on changes to Iowa’s drug law annually. While thirteen states have enacted medical marijuana laws since 1996, the Iowa Board of Pharmacy has done nothing to correct the misclassification of marijuana in Iowa as having no accepted medical use in the United States. Obviously, the court order I got in April got their attention and now they are scrambling to hold hearing to determine whether marijuana should have accepted medical use in Iowa so they can avoid having to decide whether it has accepted medical use in other states. The Board of Pharmacy is boxed into a corner. They have nothing to show to explain how thirteen states “in the United States” have not accepted the medical use of marijuana. Watching them squirm is just a joy to behold. You should come to Iowa and see it for yourself. It’s an extravagancy spectacular and we are savoring every moment of it.
There are 3 full on experts that should come to Iowa and testafy. They want legal opinion, they want medical opinion, and expert opinion on Marijuan/Canabis there are 3 that i can think of that would and should be our best experts. Jack Herer Marijuana expert, Berry Cooper legal expert , and Irvin Rosenfeld Medical patient and expert . These 3 people have a serious advantage they have the ear of the amreican people i cant see anybody or any state denying their testamony ..
Let me tell you a story that is chasing the wind. In my state they have begun to eridicate marijuana plants and so the American farmer who would have some money in his pocket is now gone and guess where everyone is now getting their marijuana? the mexicans who are sending their money home to their home country. So you think WTF? We spend thousands of dollars to eridicate and take money from the American citizens only for the money to go to a foreign country now that is some sick crap! I cannot wait for this conference which is going to be the most important conference of our lifetime! People we have to stand strong and never give up for now this is no longer just about the incarceration and the denial of this drug to our dying brothers and sisters but now this is about our American economy and our American farmers who grow this cash crop! Listen to me my brothers and sisters we must stay strong and never and I mean never give up for THIS IS OUR TIME! AND WE ARE POWERFUL and no more will be persecuted like we are some morally bankrupt socipaths when Homosexuals are now allowed to marry, prolifers can pick off Abortion doctors and get away with it by saying justifible behavior and child molesters get less time than marijuana users. Hell to the no! NO MORE!No darn more! they want a fight then lets give it to them! but let me say again this is not a fight that we can just sat on our butts and think we will have to do nothing! In fact we will probably be working as hard as anything in our lives! but trust me it is going to be so worthwhile! Now many of us after our mother NORML tells us what we must do at this conference be getting prepared to start reseaching politicians who are against and who is for us make plans to be able to get out there and get this people registered to vote and those of us who live in the cities and rural areas be ready to go out and work for I know for a fact that these people are sometimes the most least informed and whatever you do make sure to send in your contributions to our mother NORML for right now we have approx. 27,000 members and if everyone sent in just 5 a month every month our mother would generate 135,000 dollars a month and if you think that wont make those crooked politicians take notice you are so wrong b/c that is all they see so I say lets give it to them lets show this demons are POWER! NOW!
Jack Herer is in critical condition after having a heart attack a couple days ago in Portland, Oregon. I’ve heard of Barry Cooper, but don’t know him. Irv Rosenfeld is on the Board of Directors of Patients Out of Time which is leading the review of the scientific literature and putting patient testimony into the administrative record. Have Barry give me a call – 515/288-5798
THE CRIMINAL CHARGE: Mr. Harry J. Anslinger, an agent for the Federal Government, did willfully and wantonly committed Fraud and Constructive Fraud, of which Mr. Anslinger perpetrated upon the United States people as a whole and their United States Congress for the sole purpose “ to impair or injure public interest” in the cannabis plant as a traditional medicine or as a valuable agricultural crop.
Fraud: as defined by Black’s Law Dictionary, “An intentional perversion of the truth for the purpose of inducing another in reliance upon it to part with some valuable thing belonging to him or to surrender a legal right; a false representation of a matter of fact, whether by words or by conduct, by false or misleading allegations, or by concealment of that which should have been disclosed, which deceives and is intended to deceive another so that he shall act upon it to his legal injury.”
Constructive Fraud: as defined by Bovier’s Law Dictionary – 1856 Edition which states, “Constructive fraud: A contract or act, which, not originating in evil design and contrivance to perpetuate a positive fraud or injury upon other persons, yet, by its necessary tendency to deceive or mislead them, or to violate a public or private confidence, or to impair or injure public interest, is deemed equally reprehensible with positive fraud, and therefore is prohibited by law, … ”
Harrison Narcotics Act – 63rd US Congress 1914
Marihuana Tax Act – 75th US Congress April 14, 1937, signed August 2, 1937
The Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act – 91st US Congress October 27, 1970
The Legislative Branch of the United States, sitting past & present, lacked / lacks the constitutional privilege or right granted to Congress by the United States Constitution in which to abrogate the natural inalienable rights secured by the people unless the U.S. Legislative branch has reviewed valid evidence, held fair, impartial, and publicly transparent hearings which showed, or shows, that our nation’s health and or welfare would be, or is, negatively effected should the United States peoples’ continue to execute their natural inalienable right of access to the cannabis plant can it be outlawed. Absent of these reasonable conditions Congress can not, may not use it’s privilege or right of abrogation of Constitutional Rights secured by the people.
It is only upon the reasonable presentation of scientific evidence which presents a valid social claim, and or an individual claim of harm that negatively impacts upon the whole, or part of, the Nation’s people does Congress have the responsibility to secure the nation’s health and welfare by use of it’s congressional privilege or right of abrogations by due process to secure said health and welfare of the Nation. But no U.S. Legislative body, past or present, has the congressional privilege or right to abrogate the natural inalienable rights secured in the United States people based on distortions, fanciful conjecture, and intentionally misleading medical and legal information. No where in the people’s founding contact adopted by the people and sworn to by this elected government does it allow deception, criminal and civil fraud, intentional misinformation, purposely tainted testimony, and the denial of any expert testimonies as bases for granting any elected and sworn U.S. Legislative body present or past with the misuse of it’s privilege or right of abrogation which allows the outlawing of the inalienable rights of the peoples’ of these United States without proper due process of law.
Therefore the foundation laid in Congress to abrogate the natural inalienable rights of the people lacked any real evident that the cannabis plant is or was, ever a safety issue which negatively impacted the health and welfare of the American Society, in part or as a whole. Furthermore, the U.S. Congress did not, can not, and still does not have the privilege or right granted in the United States Constitution to write any such legislation that would abrogate the American people from their natural inalienable rights to use the cannabis planet for reason of traditional medicine, or as a traditional food supplement, as an alternative fuel source, for the making of clothing, used as a replacement for wood, used in the making of traditional paper, and or for the peoples’ ancient spiritual, religious, or cultural practices of which is clearly protected for all time sake by our founding fathers’ constitutional preamble and the first ten amendments of the United States Constitution.
Hence, the United States Legislative actions known as the Harrison Narcotics Act of the 63rd legislative session, the Marihuana Tax Act of the 75th legislative session, and the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of the 91st legislative session and all those sub-action therein, which abrogate the natural inalienable rights of the people to have unfettered access to the cannabis plant is built upon a fraudulent act and therefore unconstitutional because these legislative foundations are based on fanciful propaganda which lacks any real legal scientific evident that demonstrates any negative impact on society by the use of the cannabis plant. The three legislative action listed above do adversely effect the safety and welfare of the America. These fraudulent acts of congress continue to harm the nation and drain the people of their valuable resources. Most importantly these acts have eroded the relationship between all three branches of government and the people they are suppose to represent.
Our Federal Congresses in the above named sessions have acted upon the U.S. constitutional provision involving the American peoples’ natural inalienable rights and have unlawfully abrogated those natural unalienable given rights of the United States people based solely on questionable congressional witness testimonies, a bombardment of fraudulent media presentations, and grossly misquoted medical and legal data, of which is still pervasive today in the minds of the American people. There is however an overwhelming, and ever growing mound of world-wide scientific data that demonstrate to the contrary the fraudulent education material perpetrated upon our society as well as the 63rd, 75th, and 91st United States Congresses. Our U.S. Congress therefore lacked then and still lacks now it’s constitutional privilege or right to abrogate the cannabis plant from the American people. All legislation, status, and laws written and enacted from these fraudulent act of intentional misguided legislation should be ruled by the Supreme Court in the land as null and void because they are repugnant to the foundation of the United States Constitution.
“ The Constitution is a written instrument, as such, its meaning does not alter. That which it meant when it was adopted, it means now.” South Carolina v. United States, 199 U.S. 437, 448 (1905)
“To disregard such a deliberate choice of words and their natural meaning, would be a departure from the first principle of constitutional interpretation.” “Every word must have its due force and appropriate meaning; for it is evident from the whole instrument, that, no word was unnecessarily used, or needlessly added.” Chief Justice Taney in Holmes v. Jennison, 14 U.S. 540, 570-1
“ Every word appears to have been weighted with the utmost deliberation and its effect to have been fully understood.” Wright v. United States, 302 U.S. 583 (1938)
“All laws which are repugnant to the constitution are null and void.” Chief Justice Marshall in Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 137, 174, 176 (1803)
“If the legislator clearly misinterprets a constitutional provision, the frequent repetition of the wrong will not create a right.” Amos v. Mosley, 74 Fla. 555; 77 So. 619. (Congress)
“Where rights are secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.” Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436, 491.
“When any court violates the clean and unambiguous language of the constitution, a fraud is perpetrated and no one is bound to obey it.” State v. Sutton Minn. 147, 65 NW 262, 30 L.R.A. 630 Am. St. 459)
“The due process clause of the Fifth Amendment guarantees to each citizen the equal protection of the laws and prohibits a denial thereof by any federal official.” Bolling v. Sharpe, 327 U.S. 497
. “Fraud vitiates the most solemn contracts, documents, and even judgments.” i.e. Documents, Constitutions, Court Decisions….. U.S. vs. Throckmorton, 98 U.S. 61
“No freeman shall be taken, or imprisoned, or disseised, or outlawed, or exiled, or anywise destroyed; nor shall we go upon him, nor send upon him, but by lawful judgement of his peers or by the Law of the Land.” (June 19th 1215 Chapter 39 of the Magna Charta)
Preamble of the U.S. Constitution and the Declaration of Independents
“We the people of the Untied States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquillity, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessing of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
We hold these truths to be sacred & undeniable; that all men are created equal & independent, that from that equal creation they derive rights inherent & inalienable, among which are the preservation of life, & liberty, & the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these ends, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government shall become destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, & to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles & organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety & happiness.
The Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals has held that a public official does not have immunity simply because he operates in a discretionary manner. It indicated that the public servants are to be held liable when they abused their discretion or acted in a way that was arbitrary, fanciful, or clearly unreasonable. Littleton v. Berling, 1972, CA 7 Ill., 468 F2d 386. (Civil Law)
Medical Definition of:
Abuse:
1. To put to a wrong or improper use.
2. To treat so as to injure or damage’
3. Improper or excessive use of treatment.
Substance Abuse:
1. Excessive use of a drug ( alcohol, narcotics, or cocain): use of drug without medical justification.
Substance:
1. Something (as drug or alcoholic beverage) deemed harmful and usu: Subject to legal restrictions.
Lets place the legislation below against the ideas of the original draft of the Declaration of Independents written by Thomas Jefferson. Let see how these legislative acts create peace, respect, and honor in the relationship of the people with their elected government. Let see how these acts of legislation promote liberty and justice which is the very essence of the founding fathers’ spiritual dream for a country without tyranny and persecution. These legislative acts are known as the Harrison Narcotics Act of the 63rd US Congress (1914), the Marihuana Tax Act of the 75th US Congress (1937), and the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of the 91st US Congress (1970). VS. “We hold these truths to be sacred & undeniable; that all men are created equal & independent, that from that equal creation they derive rights inherent & inalienable, among which are the preservation of life, & liberty, & the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these ends, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government shall become destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, & to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles & organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety & happiness.”
Does these acts of congress preserve the inherent & inalienable rights of the people? How are the inherent & inalienable rights preserved by the government for the people? Among those rights are the preservation of life, liberty itself, and the very pursuit of happiness as an equal and independent person / people. When has this elected government respected the preservation of life? Where is our liberty today? Are we free to pursuit our independent happiness as long as it does not step on the rights of others? To secure these ends, governments are in instituted among men, driving their just powers from the consent of the governed. The Governed want changes in the cannabis law not a negotiation with the hired help! It is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, which shall most likely to effect their safety and happiness. So how does the present cannabis prohibition laws effect our safety and happiness? Has the government become destructive in their Constructive Fraud upon the people? Who is destructive to the safety and welfare of the American People? Do we now have a right to alter and or abolish those elements of government that are destructive to the people as a whole? As we have learn and are better educated should the American people have to maintain the fraudulent information and practices of the early 1900s? Or will we be allowed our liberty to case off that which is untrue which creates hostilities between the American people and their elected employees – government?
Can the American Government continue to unjustly defraud the American People of their inalienable rights to the cannabis plant even after their many lies are exposed? Why must we continue the fraudulent legislative acts? Why would the American People let this elected government, knowing there is no real safety issue with the health and welfare of the nation to continue to lock people up for the use the cannabis plant? Will we as American Juries allow another 800,000 plus fellow Americans be labeled as criminals? Can we change the law by Jury Nullification or Jury Lawlessness and put an end to these unlawful acts. If we, as the jury of peers refuse to convict our fellow American who use cannabis how will the government not hear our voice? Why will we Americans, the employer, let our government, the employees, spend billions of dollars, dollars we don’t have to spend, on incarcerating these cannabis plant users?(average cost of prisoner $23,500) How does taking Americans who have had their inalienable rights unjustly abrogated away from them, placed in prison, or placed on probation and forced to attend drug treatment, how does this make these folks a better person? Or for that matter where is the benefit to society? If we harden a person’s heart do we get a better citizen? Will it make for a better republic? Time for those called to jury duty to just say Not Guilty! We do not need the legislators to give us what is our already, it is time to just take it back, no negotiations, no legislation, just the American Juries putting government in it’s place, under the people not over them.
It must rise to the level of crimes against humanity to presume that one has the authority to regulate, legislate or prohibit outright, an activity that is only slightly less innocous than sleeping
im soo very sorry to hear about Jack i was realy hoping when i put down thoses names everybody was still well and kicking arse.i hope he knows all of our prayers are with him hes very admiered , as far as Berry Cooper i as well dont know him but i will try my best to contact him online.
Carl i did manage to get ahold of Barry he informed me that he will be contacting you on monday i realy hope all goes well. Peace Love and Free Will
With all of the pharmaceuticals out there being used for off-label purposes, is the argument about needing FDA approval legitimate? I read a recent article which stated the results of a survey given to U.S. doctors about commonly-prescribed drugs. Upwards of 80% of the doctors surveyed could not name the on-label usage the drug was FDA-approved for. So we have doctors prescribing drugs that are “FDA-approved” for diseases they were never or not fully tested to be used for. What good is an FDA rubber stamp at this point? Combine this with the myriad of side effects many drugs carry, and one wonders how they were ever approved to begin with. The FDA approval process is severely flawed in that most of their funding comes from the companies whose pharmaceuticals the FDA is tasked with approving. The public’s safety is seriously compromised under this present model. As much as laws need to be examined, our country’s agencies and how they obtain funding. Without separation of the money from the science, there is no safety, and it is laughable that any reservations are voiced to medical marijuana based on the lack of FDA approval.
In a world where “Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra” are advertised on TV with the warnings about “call your doctor if you suddenly go blind or deaf from taking this medication,” how can cannabis be considered dangerous? If you have a pill FDA-approved for such use (which, although it may improve quality of life in some aspects)why then is cannabis held to a different standard. It carries no such grave side effects, and its users are merely trying to better their quality of life to some degree, -sometimes to resounding levels of success. Just as it was deemed unconstitutional in Argentina to prohibit marijuana for personal use, the medical application and peoples’ desires to better their lives and medical conditions are a GOD-given right. Prohibition, especially when waged against medical patients, is unconstitutional.
It is plain and simple, the big tobaacco companies have raped and pillaged the American people for over a hundred years. Phillip Morriss and others felt threatened by individuals who began smoking marijuana rather than buying their tobacco. With their millions in death dollars they bought legislation to outlaw cannabis. Their control spread world wide until people realised it was the tobacco companies who were killing them.
For years the tobacco companies promoted smoking tobacco as a healthy practice, all the while they were extracting additional nicotine from the stems and junk parts to be sprayed on the tobacco to make it even more addicitive. Nicotine, converted to nicotine sulphate is the prime ingriediant in Black Flag ant killer and other insecticides >> a dealy neorotoxin, it poisons the central nervous system >>> known in fact by the tobacco companies for decades.
Who are the criminals here?? Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to show that when 50 million plus Americans have died from a product that the manufacturer and the government both know kills and is still on the market it is VERY EASY to substanciate who the criminals are. But then they now have focused their death markets on populations outside of the US to peddle their poison, tobacco companies know they are killing people for a buck >> any other company CEO’s would be in jail.
Add-in lying scum bags like Henry Ansinger and other government officals who got paid off with tobacco money to lie before congress, we have laws on the books which are without merit in regards to marijuana. The world at large is deciding the same, decriminalize marijuana.
The Iowa Board of Pharmacy is a joke, these people need to removed from their tax payer financed positions, they are leaches >>> plan and simple, they are disgregarding the overwhelming consensus of the Iowa constituency (and the world) >>> what ever happened to the “will of the people”? The Iowa Board of Pharmacy is part of the problem, not part of the solution…GET RID OF THEM!!!
Just wondering if all went well with Barry thanks peace outy.
Barry never called me.
well Sh^it guess hes full of it he did send me an e-mail saying he was gona call sorry
so did anybody els watch the news when they talked about iowa seniors wanting medical marijuana its begining to be wanted by more and more people that are sick or elderly so now we can official say that it is in every corner of american society the scocial stigma is fading faster and faster and soon will puff out completly. so if your a pot smoker and you talked to sombody about it or bloged about it or tried to inform somboy that is uniformed pat yourself on the back “”pat”” well thank you 😛
It should show up on their web page eventually. I heard that it was reported on the local television news a few days ago. Here is the web site:
http://www.olderiowans.org/
ok so how awsume is that seniors rule this state for the most part you know is not just for serious illnesses i have ADD and Anxeity ive been smoking pot and only pot for about 7yrs nothing els drinking mabey 1-2 times a month since the dhs and ss bit ive been thc free for about 3 months now and all i can say is my Anxiety is worse and my ADD has got me forgetting everything and getting only half of everything done see my brain works in over drive and pot “marijuana” acctualy slows me down they say that with ADHD meds seem to have the opposite affect well as a person that was one of the very first to ever recive a disability check from it as a child i can tell you to slow the brain down Marijuana dose the job , i like to use the analagy of a baseball team normaly im trying to play batter pitcher 1st base 2nd base 3rd base out field in feild and catcher well when i smoked i could well realy had no choice bt to slow down and play 1-2positions at a time rather then the hole D@mn game by myself so realy put me in a study tell me what i feel and what i know as fact is wronge please if you can because i tell you the people and gov studies are pregidice as a 6-7 yr old they basicly gave me legal speed wich is what rydalin is there is about 2yrs in my childhood i absoluty can not remember almost like amnesia its a blank to me my sisster and mom talk about somthings that just arent there for me the most i can remember from those times is not wanting to be alive when your 6-7 you SHOULD NOT NOT be thinking about the death of yourself EVER all i can say is thank god that im an adult and know about myself my disorder and what helps and what dosent there is no way you should be speeding up the thoughts of sombody that can not slow thier thoughts down it is F@cked up are you kiding me you know as an adult i woudlnt mind ADHD but when you get older the Hyper Activity gose away which would atleast keep me up with my brain but No my Brain is still in over drive my body is not my body can not keep up with my brain witch causes serious anxiety about weather or not your doing everything right or even perfect nobody should eve have to worry about being perfect because nobody is perfect i only wish i had the funds to tell my medical self discovery to the board but again im not perfect im a stay at home mom because if my kids need me i will be there for them which they need me now because ive been charged with child abuse for smoking pot “marijuana” so all i have left is my freedom of speech which they will not take from me . if you think just because things are going well for people that need marijuana because they are dying and you think that you can stop being an advocate or stop the fight because people that are dying can benifit then you need to stop and think what people that arent dying yet that could have a better quality of life from smoking this plant that hasnt ever killed anybody or ever drivin anybody insane from its use then you need to keep up the fight for everybody because i tell you as a person w/ ADD i will not get better with rydalin dont give me speed give me weed… Thank you a person using thier freedom of speech …. Khrisha Peace
What you have to understand about what is going on here in Iowa is that we are in the process of evaluating the science. We don’t know what the Board of Pharmacy is going to say. If the Board says something like Judge Young said in 1988 (and the science has only gotten better and more favorable toward marijuana since then), we could see a bill to decriminalize marijuana and remove it from the Iowa Uniform Controlled Substances Act rather than make it available for medicine. Or, we could see something like a new Schedule VI instead of just 5 schedules. We really have no idea what we’ve got here until we see the report from the Board of Pharamcy. We are certainly not going to let marijuana be classified as a dangerous drug if the evidence doesn’t support that. In 1988, DEA Chief Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young, said, “Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man.” A conclusion like that would certainly support removing criminal penalties for possession and distribution without profit, as the 1972 Presidental Commission on Marihuana found. The 13 states that have legalized medical use of marijuana have unanimously allowed patients to grow, possess, and distribute without profit, marijuana under a doctor’s supervision, so you can see that marijuana is being classified as something safer that the drugs in Schedule V of the state and federal controlled substances acts. I don’t think the nation realizes what’s going on here in Iowa. I’m not aware of any discussion of it at the recent national NORML conference and I doubt anyone will mention it at the Drug Policy Alliance conference in Albuquerque, NM in November. It seems to be completely off the radar of the drug policy reform groups.
I liken the states antiquated position to that of the cold war. Spend billions of dollars on paranoia of a few and then tear it down…what a joke. No jobs, spending $5 billion plus a year for a war on American citizens that can nor never will be won… What’s wrong with this picture?? The people who are abusing YOUR tax dollars in their cush jobs…
The big weed scare brought on and funded by the tobacco companies 60 years ago is baseless. It is a gross miscarriage of the Constituion and the American way in general to ALLOW a few to dictate to the MASSES! George Washington grew and smoked pot “for medicinal purposes”, Benjamin Franklin and thousands of others. It is high time, no pun intented, to oust the SOB’s who dictate, yes dictate, their inimical meglomanical positions, disregrding the will of the people… GET RID OF THEM!!! They are leaching off your tax dollars…Maybe a direct collateral attack in court on their crediability or lack there of…They have no veil to hide behind…
I do have them in court. The next hearing is Friday, October 9. The Board says the meaning of the phrase “accepted medical use in treatment in the United States” means accepted medical use in all 50 states. They are now holding hearing to determine whether marijuana has accepted medical use in the United States, which they have already said they will not do unless all 50 states accept it. The court is going to find that a state agency doesn’t have jurisdiction to determine what the law should be in another state. Marijuana currently has accepted medical use in 13 states in the United States and Iowa is not one of those 13 states. When the Iowa Legislature wrote our law, it made it conditional on what other states do by including “in the United States” in the language of the statute. The Iowa Board of Pharmacy is bound by that law and it must obey it.
I realize you have them in court … have you gotten a ruling on the Sept. hearing yet? Federal law superceeds state law.
The “attitude” the state of Iowa takes is they are hiding behind state semantics, and have no where to hide when the Federal law trumps them.
Anyone who gets busted should collaterally attack Iowa law over and over and over again. Turn it over to the press, YouTube and the “uncontrolled” media; it shouldn’t take long before the state realizes it will loose the respect of a nation, just when it was making rational strides forward…
The Sept 21 hearing was continued to Oct 9. What does federal law superceding state law have to do with my case? Have you read my case. Have you read Garden Grove v. Kha and San Diego v. NORML? My case is about Gonzales v. Oregon, 546 U.S. 243 (2006). Read that case so you know what federal law actually says about state drug laws. The Iowa Board of Pharmacy tried to say federal law trumps them and the court ruled against them in April. Gonzales v. Oregon describes the concept of “federalism” where the states retain sovereignty to regulate the health and welfare of their citizens without federal interference. This is hot. Check it. Feel it. Taste it. Absorb it. Then, do it.
Kinda testie aren’t we?
There are dozens of hot approaches. The state of Iowa needs to realize it will set itself back 50 years if they don’t get they head out of their asses and join the real world…
The reality is in every state which the laws aren’t changed by popular consensus, then there should be an action to adopt a national fund to support the fight… You say WHAT??
Who or what ever gave the MADD people the right to collect money? Well then..if MADD can do it then every state that does not have pot decriminatized needs to make a state and federal challenge for the same rights as MADD… taste it, feel it…what’s good for the goose is good for the gander :>)…
IOWA mandates that MADD be paid…So every person busted for BS laws can pay to have it overturned!!
I like how we are making progress here, and suddenly we have folks telling us what to do.
What makes our court case white hot is that we are doing it, not just talking about it. Come to Iowa and implement your hot idea. Prove it.
Well Carl, I have lived in Iowa for 56 years…
I also put a short video insert on Cable network news about the issue, I had planned to be in Iowa City today to shoot the whole proceedings..I have all the waivers in place; something came up and I am unable to.
I have free access to the press and cable networks. I am a senior finishing up my second degree…Electronic Media Communications, I also have a degree in Marketing and Advertising. I can walk the walk and talk the talk… Been there done that. The media is my vehicle for change and exposing the courts..I don’t back down from anyone…
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Oh and BTW… your comment about doing it… well get someone who has recently been busted and make the challenge about applying a “civil penalty” such as MADD money, but to be used to support the decriminazation… then it once again opens avenues to attack state laws on cruel and unusal punishment by denying medications, etc. … and a dozen other doors.
Never put all your eggs in one basket…they may get broken…
Well my last two replies haven’t been published?
I have lived in Iowa for 56 years. I also have had air time on local cable networks on the issue.
I have access to news and media networks. If you’d like to go on camera or anyone else would I would be happy to film and get it aired… Maybe publish my other two responses as well…
I have been in contact with an alumni of my university who is now a major network news broadcaster in LA. If you want coverage..I can shoot it and get it on the air… Only positive spins … I am part of the solution not the problem… the good ole boys need to get a real job…
Thats not a bad idea mabey somthing like M.A.P.P Mothers Against Pot Prohabition. Mapp your way to the truth and around the lies about Marijuana prohabition. Theres alot of Moms and Dads that dont think their kids should be in prison for half their lives over Marijuana a plant that 13 states have demmed a medicine and 14 other states are talking about it thats would be 27 states that want it and or have have it. It’s kind of a majority rules thing.
[Editor’s note: There is already some well established resources for parents re cannabis prohibition: mamas.org and safety1st.org]
EDITOR >>> you missed the point entirely…It is not to fight to keep it criminalized, but asess a “civil penalty” to fight for decriminalization.
MADD is NOT a government agency. MADD was/is a private organization bilking people out of money with the governments approval and rubber stamp (and several of their directs have been picked up on OWI’s)! If they have “quasi-legitimate” authority to steal money for their private agenda, then so should a legitimate defense fund be allowable for marijuana decriminalization.
ESPECIALLY in lue of the fact it is legal in 13 other states. It is also laughable that Iowa sells a marijuana TAX STAMP to impose yet another tax civil penalty. I called the state and was told they have never sold any marijuana tax stamps in 15 plus years! Everyone should go buy a marijuana tax stamp in Iowa, they are selling a “quasi-licence” as a licence, not as a novelty, with malicious intentions…
What I meant by “doing it” is don’t tell me to do it. You do it. I’m doing what I know I should be doing.
I am not a lawyer, to “do it” I would have needed to have been busted otherwise I would have no “standing”, therefore it would be a “moot” issue; but you already knew that? You could “do it” with someone who already has been busted.
Instead of reinventing the wheel, a civil tax on those who are busted could be affliated with NORMAL, so what do you think you could acheive say with a budget of $50 million dollars a year towards decriminalization?
I am not here to banter back and forth with you. I have a background in law, patent law… I just changed my majors some time ago after seeing the inadequacies of the Americal judicial system and the “good ole boy” rule…
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The beauty of what I’m doing is that I’m not waiting around for anyone else to do anything. I filed a petition with the Iowa Board of Pharmacy. The Board of Pharmacy denied the petition. I sued them in court and I won. I’m not asking the Board, I’m telling the Board. I have the law on my side. I’m sure you will implement your ideas as I have implemented mine and I look forward to hearing of your progress.
Oh! well see i come here and learn stuff everyday.
Thank you. We are in this together. “Together we stand…divided we fall”
The notion that government is out for the good of the populus is a falicy. The government is a man eating machine that is blind to the needs of the people. It’s only goal is control and survival at any cost… “Justice is blind” >>> is now more true then ever. T. Jefferson is probably rolling over in his grave.
Individuals are routinely selected and persecuted for speaking out on subjects the government wants suppressed. The Patriot Act gave them unbridled free licence to wire tap and build files on Americans, with very little actually done towards foreign enemies. I know this is off the track, but I applaud you for collaterally attacking them… this is what they fear the most… especially when they are patently wrong and know it…
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I must be on to something because I actually won in court on April 21. It seems to me like there actually is justice going on here. We’ll see how it goes tomorrow.
God’s speed…
It is time that Iowa is known for rational and open mindedness rather than hicks in the sticks wearing bib overhauls. Believe me in other parts of the US and the world, that is the perception.
I know better, that’s why I have lived here 56 years, travelled all over and see what the people of Iowa have to give. Maybe the hard liners have or are being attritioned out of existence >>> or let’s at least hope soon. They are the problem … not the solution.
I don’t know a catchy phrase for good luck in a legal setting… So break a leg. Good luck in court..
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We are exposing their corruption. The Iowa Board of Pharmacy has a duty to review the drug law annually and make recommendations for changes to the Iowa Legislature. The Board of Pharmacy has just sat on its hands while 13 states have enacted medical marijuana laws and haven’t even suggested reviewing marijuana’s classification in Iowa. That is a total breach of duty owing to the citizens of Iowa. They have been exposed and today they will be further exposed as a front for the big pharmaceutical companies to put profits ahead of the health and welfare of the Iowa citizens.
Good morning Carl…
Hope all is well at ground zero. Been kinda quite on the home front since the Iowa Board of Pharmacy lacks any crediability.
I have been doing some work as it relates to Iowa’s use/abuse of administrative laws. They make claim that all 50 states must adhere to the same laws, when in fact they selectively abuse the constitution by claiming certain actions they bring against citizens are a “right” they have, as the levy is against abuse of a priveldge, not a matter of law; all the while individuals are also being prosecuted in a criminal court. FAR from 50 states abuse it’s citizenry this way…
Too many constitutional issuses to list here right now. Simply put VERY few states adhere to this double prosecution standard. It originated in Louisanna under French/Cajun law…way out in the ozone law. Iowa uses it to generate cash flow at the expense of it’s citizenry…they levy HUGE fines and unequitable sentences as a DOUBLE punishment. Only about 4 states use such draconian means to fill their coffers.
I may use the Iowa Board of Pharmacies ass backwards legal logic to attack the administrative laws in Iowa.
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Anything to do with controlled substances begins at the state level. Read Gonzales v. Oregon, 546 U.S. 243 (2006), and the appeal court and district court rulings in that case. It lays out the entire scheme of the federal drug law, which does not define accepted medical use. Accepted medical use is defined by the state. The first thing the Iowa Board of Pharmacy tried to tell me is that federal law prevents the state from rescheduling. Iowa rescheduled marijuana in 1979 and again in 1987, proving it knows damn well it is not bound by federal scheduling. They stepped right into the tar baby and got stuck. It was so easy, I didn’t even have to work hard to get them to expose their blatant ignorance of the law.
ThanX Carl…
Being a life long resident of Iowa I can tell you of the good ole boy rule here. Until the state is challenged it is business as usual to attach exorbinate fines, jail sentences way out of proportion to the offense, deny citizens protection under both the state and federal constituions. As I had previously mentioned their use of “administrative law’ and phoney marijuana “tax stamps” is but one of many…
This goes in many directions, their “drug tax stamp’ to impose a “civil”/”administrative fine” on top of any criminal charges and/or fines is just one of many. They will impose a “civil” fine just because they say they can >> because you don’t have a permit which the disclaimer on the application form openly admits the tax stamp is worthless. Their intent is VERY clear here,to sell you a worthless piece of paper claiming to exempt you from “civil fines” all the while to bilk money out of people through duel prosecution.
The Iowa DOT is even worse, you can be innocent in a court of law but guilty in “their” court and be fined, forced to jump through “their” hoops, lose you licence, pay huge insurance fees, with NO LEGAL STANDING. Their hiding behind driving is a priviledge BS. They make extreemely short appeal times (couple days), much like the federal conviscation laws. You are never allowed a court appearance, only a call in hearing with their judge who only works for them. “The fox guarding the hen house”.
When you PAY for a licence, you PAY for state and federal gas/road use tax,you PAY for a rubber tax on new tires, you PAY for car insurance, you PAY for licence plates, this extends beyond a “priveledge”, it denies you the right to earn a living.
The state receives $200 million plus a year in FEDERAL road use tax monies. There are no 50 state federal mandates allowing the DOT the “rights” above and beyond the law and the federal constitution; they claim to have the “right” to deprive citizens of their use of federally funded/supported transportation systems, all the while they are violating the federal constitution and grabbing all the federal dollars they can get their hands on to abuse and misrepresent the Federal constitution… Somewhat of a conudrum to the medical marijuana issue.
Iowa is infamous for their abuse of “civil penalties” to rob the citizens into suppression; the DCI, DOT, DNR… nearly every Iowa state agency abuses the system.. This is their new TEA TAX/CASH COW system…
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH… EVERY state agency in Iowa is deep in the tar, but way in the RED by incompenency… I am about as far to the right when it comes to love of this country but off the scale to the left when it comes to OUR inalienable rights as OWNERS of this country >>> time to take back what is already ours…
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I have an extremely narrow focus – marijuana. I’m sure that the Board of Pharmacy is not the only administrative agency abusing its power in the state of Iowa, but it’s the only agency I’m dealing with. I’m proving that you can hold them accountable, but it’s no easy thing to do. If you look at the amount of work I’ve put into this, you’re looking at the amount of work it would likely take to challenge any administrative agency in Iowa. If you feel up to the task, go for it. It won’t change unless people do something about it. I’m doing something about it. I can’t do everything. I’m doing what I think is a priority. I hear people talk all the time, but I don’t see many of them doing anything about it. People look at what I’m doing and start telling me all kinds of stuff I could be doing. Sorry, I’m just one person and I can only do so much. I hope my success will encourage others, but its taken me 30 years of legal research to get this far. You won’t just slap a legal argument together in a couple days. It takes a tremendous amount of work.
True and everyone appreciates your tireless work. Much of the case law and approach has the same merits against adminstrative law abuses in Iowa. I have a major law firm working for me which is handling this and other civil issuses.
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Carl, I applaud your work. I have to admit the first time I read your name I thought “Garrison Keillor and Norwegian bachelor farmers.” 🙂 It sounds like you have their mythical tenacity.
What is not so obvious is they (the people opposing us) do this so they can be assuredly called outrageous hypocrites that neither follow the Bible nor God nor our Founding Documents. And they are busy fulfilling all the worst aspects of the King the founding fathers cut their ties with.
In the Declaration of Independence it clearly states their disgust with these historical and updated parallels
• a long list of abuses of power
• endless legal hurdles imposed on them, strictly to wear them out
• repeated power grabs pushing towards tyranny
• the creation of a multitude of offices that consume all our resources
• the military has definitely become superior to civilian authority
• SWAT teams are practically standing armies, above the law
• the military and SWAT definitely are protected with mock trials and wrist slaps
• and on and on…
Nearly everything the colonists were disgusted with in King George has long been the case in modern times, and only getting worse!
Here’s my effort to bring our Founding Documents in to a modern expression:
http://NewOldSalt.com/USA_Declaration_of_Independence
You’re going the distance. Glad to hear you’ve not given up.
I agree about the abuses of power, but I’m proving that something can be done about it. I won in court in April, and the Iowa Board of Pharmacy announced two weeks ago that it is going to recommend legalization of marijuana for medical use in Iowa. That’s a couple of victories in a row and I still have my civil case pending against the Board. If I can do all of that, then so can others. I’m proving that peaceful, non-violent resistance still works the way our founding fathers intended it to work when they established the form of government hoping that they had just fought a war that others would not have to fight again. I do have to fight, but my weapons are words not bullets.
You Rock Carl. I was reminded this morning of one of my heros Dr. Martin Luther King jr. he stood up for people that were being opressed he stood up for people that would be prosecuted for standing up for themselfs he used hes words his knowledge and his love of what was right and fair to change how people treated blacks the same way you are helping change the way people think about pot smokers instead of being opressed for our skin color we have been opressed and for our beliefs.
It is nice to see a president with the balls to stand up and say enough to the DEA thugs. President Obama issed a clarification on the state laws vs. federal medical marijuana laws allowing the use without federal intervention in states where it is legal. IT’S ABOUT DAMN TIME!
Maybe now the country can actual heal it’s spirit as well…
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I’m speaking to a group of pain specialists, doctor and nurses, Wednesday evening. I just did an interview with the largest radio station in Iowa. Things are moving fast. WooHoo!
@ 114 Jackal, “… the balls to stand up and say enough to the DEA thugs…”
Interesting timing. I’d been meaning for a while to crank out this essay. I finally published it today:
The Moral Failings of Thug Addicts
http://ChristiansAgainstProhibition.org/The_Moral_Failings_of_Thug_Addicts
Although for sure, as I point out in the essay, there are thugs in many of the social strata of society.
Everyone nneds to appreciate Carl. Apathy is killing this country. Just how in the hell do you think the Patriot Act and all the other governmental abuses of power persist?
We are becoming a captive society until people like Carl put their well being and effort to support ALL of us. The Framers had the same introspection and balls…
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Holly crap i totaly agree ive got S.S and DHS runing through my house like im a freakin soup kitchen not that i dont like the people realy i think i could probly hang out with the family advocate ,but i dont care for the reason their in my house and i have told them that exact thing i have argueed my point and said what i think and belive, and yet sadly that is all i can do if i continue to express my feelings on the subject i fear they will take my kids which i would honestly turn into a raging maniac without and probly just kill my damn neighbor “crak head” as he is i do thank carl and very muchly apreciate him and the work he is doing thank you Carl you freakin rock and BTW why the heck insnt anybodyels commmenting why are you people scared and what are you scared of now is the time to state your gosh darn oppinion so state it …. peace ..
The thing is the “agencies” of the State of Iowa still just don’t get it. Marijuana for medical use will soon no longer be a “crime”, it will happen VERY soon. For the state “agencies” to try and do their big last round up just isn’t going to fly.
The State can honor their obilgations or face belittlement in the eyes of the nation… The choice shouldn’t be that hard…
The ass backwards mental images of the “Reefer Madness” era funded by the big tobacco companies is dead, so let’s bury it NOW…
If the “agencies” of the State of Iowa want to have an onslought of law suits against them for abusing persons constitutional and civil rights… they most certainly will be accomidated.
Now is the time for the state to embrace President Obama’s recent mandate on medical marijuana and realize, their threats/tactics will no longer be sanctioned or tolerated.
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Peace Be With You… Carl
Just a thought..
It was totally laughable while reading a drug propaganda blurb.
Marijuana is a “gateway” drug, we have all heard that BS.
There is no empirical, quantitative or qualitative data to support that crap.
Like saying if you eat a McDonald’s you are forever doomed to be a whale… get real you stupid F’s… YOU >> the ones who have manipuilated the peaceful US population for FAR too long.
Then in further inquiries the “federal drug czar” makes the same asinine inimical response statements, legalization isn’t in his vocabulary >>> He needs to go… he’s part of the problem >> not the solution..
People, we >> YOU own the government…they work for us, not vice versa.. use peaceful means just as Carl has and make things right…
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Earth Calling Carl or Anybody??
Did you all fall of the edge? No chatter or anyone give a shit? Carl did all the work and no responses? This is far from a done deal. The powers that be simply don’t like us, they are old school >>> Big Red Scare, but they still don’t like us, they want their way or no way.
Your voice needs to be heard, they obviously read this blog…So say what you think…
OK so get this 12:30 today on channel 13 the anounced that they are cutting funding for treatment facilities no more will treatments help marijuana users or alchool abusers only meth addicts what dose that leave ??? the only option marijuana users had when busted was prison or treatment now theres no more treatment so now what? straight to prison? or decriminalization ? it seems tho are the only 2 option left with the budget crisses in iowa either we spend even more money on inprisoning marijuana users wich it will cost more then a treatment center or to help this crises by ooohh say selling a pack of joints which will regulat it and tax the freakin heck out of it it may seem extrem but thats all thats left extreems so either the right thing is done or we go further in debt by increasing the war on drugs because i tell you i like MANY people have been following all this pretty close and thoses are the only options that are left so now what ? can Iowa take the right road or will we head down a dead end again?
Glad to see there are still people out there breathing and reading this…
Maybe it is a signal that the rehab of pot smokers is way over rated. It’s kinda like having a bible thumper at your door and you’ll be healed …BS. Pot is not a “gateway drug”, people who are prone to abuse do/are >>> food, sex, porno, you name it. Pot surely can be abused but it doesn’t suck you in like a vacuum cleaner and nail your ass to the wall like crank, heroin or crack.
The reality is “pot should not be termed in the “WAR on DRUGS” it leaves a bad taste in peoples mouths”. It’s the dauh factor >>> I don’t know any pot smokers who go out and rape and pillage >>> all they want is to be peacefully left alone.
But then you have the old regime hard liners, drink straight whiskey, smoke cigars and kick your woman and your dog in whatever order >> it’s all good >>> NOT.
Wise up you reds who read this >>> every country where pot is legal or quasi-legal their crime rate goes down in relationship to related crimes. People enjoy being alive and being left alone.
So what if the government taxes pot, it helps everybody as long as it’s reasonable. California stands to make up to $2.5 billion dollars a year from a $25 a ounce tax >>>pay it and get on with it. Just like booze >> you drink you pay it.
Studies are that in Iowa it could yield up to $200,000,000 in new tax revenue. OK add that to not housing prisoners for BS pot charges and trying to “rehab” them and it probably would double.
The change is a coming…
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ok so lets hope and pray that iowa is greedy and desprate huummmmm yea sounds about right mabey its iowas sins that will save the good peacefull people of this state as it states in the bible the mighty shall fall and the meek shall inherit the earth, im ready for my peace on earth.
ok so Gay Marrage is leagle in iowa awsum good for them to get thier persuit to happiness and be free for it. Abortion a womens right to chose i agree you should be free to do with your body as you chose. i myself will not ever choose either for myself im not gay and i choose life but that dosent mean im going to go around and tell other people how they should or should not do things. dose that mean then that other people can tell Me how to persue My happiness NO it dose not but they are it seems everybody els gets thier rights respected but i cant do with my body as i choose im a women i choose life for my son now im being called a child abuser because i choose my rights to be in effect mothers body over a fetus not here not for me im wronge im bad im terrable well i say screw you if you think that your wronge !
It is good to see at least one person keeps up with the posts.
This significant issue is the bona-fide medical use of marijuana for pain relief and other benifits. The government don’t give a shit about your body or your rights to it. They see the individual as their cash machine. If you can make them money being alive, what good are you?
This comes back to the bona-fide use as a medicinal treatment, even the DEA’s own judge has testified marijuana is the safest known form of treatment for a wide range of medical problems based on it’s THC, CBD, CBN and other components.
There has never been one recorded over dose in recorded history due to marijuana, while the big drug companies kill a couple hundred thousand a year; both with prescription and over the counter “drugs”.
The MLD for marijuana you would have to consume SIX (6) pounds orally or over 100 grams of pure THC. NEVER happened and NEVER will.
It’s all about money, people just pay the tax and make the boogie man go away…
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The newspapers are now reporting that the Iowa Legislature will be too busy with budget cuts and a reduction of 20 days in the legislative session to take up the issue of medical marijuana.
cant they just leave it to a vote for the people of iowa to decside isnt our vote anyways put it on a balot and let us vote on it.
Typical BS…
People >>> spend the $100 >>> you should go buy pot tax stamps from the State of Iowa, bring a thousand lawsuits agianst the state for bad faith and malice.
Push for a civil tax for anyone busted to be given to NORMAL to support decrimilaztion, MADD does it and who authorized that? They are not a government agency but you are DEMANDED to pay them…
Go to another state where it is legal and get a prescription, if you are busted here make a Federal challenge and force the Federal government to step up to the plate and end this BS. It is BS like this that is eating this country up from the inside out…
The simple fact of the matter, they are not too busy. They are grand standing with placebo BS lies, TOO BUSY >>> well then maybe you are in the wrong line of work, do alittle overtime. Especially considering they make 3-4 times what the average Iowan does and have FREE health care..!!!
The budget cuts are done by others than the legislature, they discuss and rubber stamp their desicions based on the recommendations of others.
The Board of Regents sets their own cuts as does every state agency once they are given notification of their budget cuts for the upcoming fiscal period.
When the state of Iowa would stand to have a new source of revenue in the $200,000,000 range who are trying to shit!!
Address it now and have $200,000,000 plus to add to the black in the states budget.. That would be too easy and the “good ole boys” wouldn’t get their antiquated way..
Not to mention they would probably save a like amount from their BS pot prosecutions, prisoner housings and “rehab”.
This state is becoming a joke… and they wonder why when students grad they leave!!!
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Where else in Iowa does the government stand to have revenue of $200,000,000 plus nearly immediately dumped into their budget????
Surely not going to be the movie industry since they blew that from corruption and graff!!!!
Kind of reminds me of 1937 when the American Medical Association opposed the Marihuana Tax Act. Congress passed it anyway. And, again in 1972 when the Commission on Marihuana recommended decriminalization for person use and distribution without profit. Congress ignored the findings of the Commission. And, again in 1988 when the DEA’s Chief Administrative Law Judge said marijuana was extremely safe for use under medical supervision and the DEA Administrator rejected those findings. So, here we are in Iowa, in 2009 about ready to get a favorable ruling from the Iowa Board of Pharmacy and the Iowa Legislature says it will not consider legalizing marijuana for medical use in 2010. Deja Vu, isn’t it?
thing change and mabey the argument should change with it like just flat out legalization and taxation if they want to talk about money we can do that to just because they are trying to go around the subject dosent mean they will be able to. keep up the good work carl im sure this will all count it already says that the pharma board is willing to break the law and that the gov is going to just let them get away with it now we know it must go deeper the curuption is like and infection in the body we need to be able to heal it from the inside .
Anyone and everyone you know who is busted for pot in Iowa who is above 18 years old get their names; send them to Carl (yea Crl I need a way to communicate outside of this forum with you), a data base needs to be started and challenge EVERY DAMN ONE!!
The STATE will soon be inundated with court cases, law suits and reamed in the court of PUBLIC OPINION >>> WORLD WIDE.
Reds are you ready for this, you seem to think you own the power >>> the POWER is in the PEOPLE deligated by the CONSTITUTION which was written by MARIJUANA USERS >>> just who in the hell do you think you are >>> and Senator Grassley you need to get real or retire with your BS comments >>> “gateway drug” show us some facts!!!
It’s really SAD that these dinasoars can spend us into the ground with their OLD SCHOOL BS.
BUT are afraid of change, it’s common to be afraid of change, BUT when you use fiction rather then FACT to ATTEMPT to make your POINT, you are the FOOL and are HIDING behind a lie and another lie >>> WHEN WILL YOU QUIT LIEING??
YOU are TOO busy or SORRY WE CAN’T GET TO IT this session BC we have our HRS CUT >> who pays you, who provides your FREE health insurance while millions HAVE NONE!!! maybe get a life??
>>> you lame MF’rs >>> YOU are what is dragging this country down.
Think about it, YOU the TOO BUSY PEOPLE… more than likely are a product of the SIXTES i.e “the the baby boomers” >>> the mind explosion happened then.
Gates, Murdock, Jessie Jackson, Martin Luther King >>> yada yada 60’s and 70’s then came “Reganonics” and the drug war>> you lost that one 20 years ago but won’t admit it! WHAT FOOLS. AFTER that then came captive corporate AMERICA is the way of life….
To DICTATE medical use or any use to a LEGAL CONSENTING ADULTS mind to make a FREE WILL CHOICE to do or use anything in their own home and not harm anyone else is NOT a right of the government. SHOW ME WHERE YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT >>> ISN’T there is it?? YOU INVENTED IT!!!
You want a line in the sand LET’S DO IT >>>> ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
I LOVE IT feels like the spark that carl has made could stay lit that way. im not ready to stop feeling like my god giving freedoms could be justifyably restored they are trying to push you under the rug carl and SHAME on them for that you have sparked a fire under thier asses and they are scared because you have also sparked a fire in iowas heart to the core people are not ready for this to go away this is an issue of our constitutional rights and freedoms this is an issue not just of marijuana its about the american people being pussed to the way side so that crooked politions like Grassley can make thier own rules without giving a hoot what the american people think this kind of coruption needs to stop the american people HAVE lost faith in thier government and its our job to restore it by fighting the system like carl has been doing and if its ok with carl i will do that which you sugested jackle but i do feel like i need permission first so carl if your ok with continuing the fight you are the lead for all iowans in this sequence of events the fire is still lite lets make a freaking bonfire out of it.
ok ive just writen a letter to the white house and i sugest anybody els reading this do the same be respectfull and polite he is our president and hes the only one in history to acctualy read some of his email if we do it right and respectfully mabey we can go over iowas head and go straight to the top peace and love and fighing the best i can K.J.
No permission needed… you have the same rights as every man woman and child in this country.
The FEDERAL CONSTITUTION does not give the state or federal government the right to INVENT LAWS, when there is no empirical data to support that marijuana harms society, or is a “gateway drug”. ESPECIALLY when it has been shown for 10,000 years to have been used as a medicinal treatment. Do the math 10,000 years and the US has only been in existence for 200+ years, with a marijuana law on the books for only 70 years>>> 9,930 years of PROVEN TRACK RECORD as a benificial medicinal medication. WAKE UP YOU OLD FOOLS…
NOW we need paper work and court cases. I think a couple of the most viable approaches are to 1.) buy Iowa pot tax stamps to cover 1 oz. (about $100) 2.) go to one of the states where it is legal, pay the $150 for a prescription. If you are busted in Iowa take it into FEDERAL court system, by the hundreds…
If you buy prescription from a state licenced doctor in one state and you travel to another with “drugs” from a “drug company” you aren’t persecuted or prosecuted!! BIG MONEY AT IT’S BEST…
This state seems to take 1 step forward and 10 steps bac…
I’m not sure what I’m being asked to do. I’m doing what I need to be doing. Run that by me again. I don’t get paid for what I do. If your suggestion involves resources I don’t have, I suggest you contact NORML first and see if they have any resources.
I believe Jackal keeps telling people to send their money to NORML. It would not make any sense to send the money to NORML and then ask me to do the work. I don’t get any financial assistance from NORML.
NORMAL should step up then and provide you some finacial and legal help as should everyone in this state. How do they do that?
Iowans for Medical Marijuana
c/o Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church
Post Office Box 4091
Des Moines, Iowa 50333
http://www.iowamedicalmarijuana.org
http://www.ethiopianzioncopticchurch.org
Donations are not tax deductible
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ok so this is kinda of subject but kinda on subject i was looking up karma and basicly just having bad luck with life i read a post that was realy insperational the end quote carl is for you … Many men fail because they dont realize how close to succes they are.. if your feeling like the legislature has made this a futile effort just keep in mind you are soooooooo close to succeding that they want you to think this was a failure. But no matter what they say this was a succes on your part and all thoses people that spoke up so stay positive this will all be well worth it.. sorry if im way off just thought i should tell sombody that awsum quote peace outy..
im sure everybody already knows about this the AMA has changed its stand on medical marijuana now saying that is has accepted medical value and that it needs to be rescedualed from a scedual 1 so that more reaserch can be done on it , all i have to say is about time if the AMA says its a medicine then no state or government law can say its simply a drug its a medicine simple as that as far as the converstations ive been having with people aperently the AMA is the foundation of the drug czars arguments againts marijuana saying that they dont recognize it niether dose he , Well Well look at that i guess his arguments need to change with this change from the AMA his arguments are baisless
http://www.emaxhealth.com/1272/95/34417/ama-gives-medical-marijuana-boost.html
I have been studying state, federal, and international drug law for a long time and one of the things I’ve learned is that coca leaves and opium poppy are both in Schedule II even though they have no accepted medical use in treatment in the United States. The DEA claims they were put there because useful pharmaceutical drugs are made from them. When I suggested that Marinol could be made from marijuana, the DEA responded by saying that Marinol is made from synthetic delta-9-THC so it does not come from the marijuana plant. If you look at the scientific literature, it says delta-9-THC is the principle psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. It even says that in the Federal Register when Marinol was scheduled by the DEA (to Schedule II in 1986 and to Schedule III in 1999). And, of course, the HHS now has a patent on extracted cannabinoids since 2003. So, the case for removing marijuana from federal Schedule I has been strong since at least 2003, if not 1986. This AMA recommendation should be the final piece, but I’m not sure the DEA will just do this voluntarily. It would be really great if some brave state filed a notice with the DEA telling the DEA that marijuana now has accepted medical use in treatment in the United States, and that it no longer meets the requirements for inclusion in Schedule I. The federal law says “in the United States” and the last time I counted there were 50 of them. One of those states should step forward and assist the DEA in doing the right thing.
Well it will be interested what position will be taken on the 10:00 news from Cedar Rapids on Medical marijuana. With the state making back peddling positions now they have lost their court battles. They now take the position we need more time… BS, they have had 70 years…get the cob webs out you your ass!
There is NO plausable reason not to legalize it and create a new source of revenue and quit making people suffer and live in fear!!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH… Old schoolers quit playing games with adult persons lives!!!
One of the states where they have legalized it should step up…their foot and their whole body :>) is already in the door…
The DEA is out of control, the mentality that we will fight a “war” over something that shouldn’t be an issue is just showing what arcayic assholes are in charge. They have been asleep at the wheel for years. Let the Afganies raise opium because we don’t want to piss thewm off and make heroin to kill peole around the world, people in the US by the thousands. Real good plan guys, you should quit your day job!!!.
I recently read an article about a NYC high school where their prom committee has a program to address heroin at prom >>> what the FUCK are you DEA people thinking?? POT has NEVER KILLED ANYONE FROM AN OVERDOSE IN 7000 plus years!!!But SUPPORT HEROIN…
my grandpa worked for the government for 40years as a mathmatichin he lived in every state but florida and washington he was a briliant man a genius in math he would never tell anybody exactly what he was doing for the government but he told us all not to trust the government they were more corupt then any crook he and my grandma took in over 100 foster kids and had 7 kids of thier own ALL of us were toght this from a man that gave his life to the government i think we all wanted to make it better we need to be able to trust our government we need to be able to serve or work for the government and trust that we are in the company of good people and a good and just system the system is corupt the people in the system are corupt were finaly getting people in offices that grew up not trusting the government and wanting to make it better my hope is that i will not have to give my grand kids the same speach we all got. peace
Well I would start writing your speach.
When there are reams of files that support medical marijuana’s use, it has only been illegal for 70 years..
They sure as hell could have done as much research as was ever needed there are NO KNOWN OVERDOSES in 7000 years, when there are people (Iowa Board of Pharmacy), who made opening statements before any hearings were ever heard that they were against it, there is a DEA head who simply doesn’t honor the facts,but the DEA judge does recommend rescheduling or legalization.
When the local Cedar Rapids TV station puts a “professional” who publically states medical marijuana is a “GATEWAY DRUG” >>> she needs to get her shit straight and substanciate her lies to the media with hard cold facts >>> not her ASSUMPTIONS.
BIG MAC’s are a gateway food!!! GET REAL, if you have tendencies to abuse you will abuse something >> food, sex, alcohol, you name it >>> GATEWAY what a joke…
Someone who misrepresents the facts to the public in their position of POWER, should be fired and removed. THEY ARE THE PROBLEM >>> NOT THE SOLUTION…
how bout this when it is finaly ligalized regulated and taxed we have a Freedom party and ill make the potato salad.
“If wishes were fishes… we’d have a fry”.
I have all but given up on the fact that OUR government is HONEST and CARES about the PEOPLE, who OWN IT. You/we are just figments in their imagination of POWER.
ok now i am negative nelli of the year here so if you out do me i might get extra fuckin sad that sombody els is as doubtfull in the gov as i dont make me that sad ,,
wow ok so they need to prescribe marijuana for stress especialy for people that live in iowa nothin more stressfull then hitting 3 deer and totaling your van i cant imagine they are going to continue to lie to themselves about marijuana orgon just opened their first dispensery grassley is gone this year and california is going to have it totaly legalized in the next 2 months their is no hiding for them anymore its either face the facts or GET OUT its that simple.. well peace out probly my last comment enless they deside not to shut off our net …. peace outy and god bless
More postives that the world at large is PASSING THE STATE OF IOWA and THE US in the DUST!!! The old school blames EVERYTHING on pot, get real, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM…
The Brazilian Supreme Court just voted unanimously to strike down ANY laws prohibiting a consenting adult from using marijuana FOR ANY REASON in their own homes or private, but will prosecute if harm to someone results from use. That sounds fair enough… So why is this picture blurred to the out of control powers in the US???
Now take into consideration, Argentina, Paraguay, and Uruguay have also done the same; all of South America will soon follow. These countries are tired of the DEA induced violence and don’t want or need their money anymore…
A Cannabis Cup was held in South America this last July… This is not a bunch of stoners setting around in a back room, this was a competion/celebration with 300 selective breeders competing. This being quantifiable by extensive genetics research and labor to create finely sought after specific qualilities.
Are wine competitions all about a bunch of drunks setting in Skid Row drinking cheap wine?? … the fools behind the wheel in the US just don’t get it. Their alcohol prohibition was a TOTAL FAILURE as is their marijuana prohibition, fools you are tearing this country apart!! You are turning otherwise peaceful citizens >> apathetic and hostile towards you!!
So here we sit in “THE LAND OF THE FREE” … BS!! We live in a megolmanically maliciously old school CONTROLLED SOCIETY. Living in fear brought upon us by the idiocracy/bureaucracy of the world’s largest NARCO TERRORIST GROUP… the DEA, who just don’t get it…
The DEA operates in 20 countries besides the US, many of which they are condoning opium/heroin production and cocaine to fund their actions and wars… NO opium shouldn’t be legalized or any other “DANGEROUS” drug, but marijuana has NEVER KILLED ANYONE from an overdose in 7000 years of recorded history.
The US polilical fools out there who push the US’s control buttons should read “MARIJUANA IS SAFER.. So Why Are We Driving People To Drink?” by Steve Fox, Paul Armentano & Mason Tvert
The US will soon be a second rate nation, both economically and socially if THE POWERS THAT BE don’t step down or get their heads out of their asses…
Be Safe
Well this tea party will show what ADULT America wants and needs by a over whelming majority!!
Harvard Law School Professor Charles Nesson will be arguing the appeal of my marijuana conviction for sharing a joint at the 2007 Boston Freedom Rally on the historic Boston Common with High Times associate publisher Rick Cusick. We both took the stand at our trial and testified under oath that we were certainly sharing a joint, and were protesting the constitutionality of the very marijuana laws under which we were arrested.
The state law under which Rick and I were prosecuted has since been modified by a voter initiative last fall removing all criminal penalties, and setting a $100 civil fine, for the possession of up to one ounce of pot in Massachusetts. Nonetheless, it would be great if we could convince the court of appeals that the private use of marijuana in Massachusetts, as it is in Alaska, is constitutionally protected conduct.
The rest of the country as well as the rest of the world has been passing Iowa by for a long time. What’s new about that? We’d like to see you doing something about it. Anyone can drop a note here complaining about it. I hope Keith wins his case in Massachusetts. I doubt if it will change many minds here in Iowa, but it all adds up.
It is nice to see Keith back in court litigating a marijuana case. It’s unfortunate that he has to be the defendant, but I guess that what it took to get him off his ass and back into court.
[Editor’s note: Your obnoxious comment intimating that Keith Stroup is ‘lazy’ are harsh and unwarranted as NORML has over 500 lawyers in court, almost every day, defending the rights of cannabis consumers. No other organization, including the ACLU, has litigated more cannabis-related issues than NORML.
NORML is a real, functional and accountable organization, not a one-man show.]
WOW ok we are ALL frusterated with the way things are now and we are all fighting a battle thats why were here “digusing” our veiws and using our rights as Americans to excursize our right to free speech YOU ALL tell me what the hell is it going to do to jump down each others throats about this issue we are ALL on the same page litteraly and figurtivly WE ARE on the same side if we start getting mad at each other then there is less energy to fight the real problem we are all fighting in our own way the best we can I for example am proving to dhs and ss that just because i smoked pot dosent mean im a bad parent which they all agree with me about ive had nothing but good reports and praise not to mention ive educated them a lil about whats going on in this country about marijuana this isnt just about adults that want to or need to smoke this is also about children who are losing parents everyday and being put into foster care or placed with family because thier parents smoke so please for the sake of the kids the ill and yourselfs lets stop fighting each other and work together DEVIDED WE FAIL TOGETHER WE PREVAIL.. Peace
What the hell are you talking about >>> CARL??? I NEVER said anything about NORMAL or Keith Stroup!! This was just a reposting from NORMAL own post showing the progress made in other states!
Maybe you should go back and READ NORMALS own post!! It was CUT AND PASTED FROM THEIR SITE >> CARL ver betum!! I ADDED NOTHING!!
FYI CARL I have my own ways of doing things and they are getting done.
A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular.
Adlai E. Stevenson
The difference between vision and hallucination is action.
~ Allen Patmarajah
YES IT DOES ALL ADD UP OR HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THAT
NOTE TO THE EDITOR..
If you don’t post my response to Carl’s or your post (or whoever assumed I stated what you are ASSUMING I said), then you are no better then they are.
As far as doing something, I have sent out over 2000 letters and e mails. I have politicians, lawyers and doctors who just don’t want to come out and speak up, but smoke routinely and MOST not for any MEDICAL reasons…
So quit blowing your own horn!
Sorry Editor :>)
It was Carl who made the comment which after rereading all of his posts I agree it was an inappropriate comment.
People here in Iowa appreciate Carl’s work, but at the same time he thinks he walks on water or something. Other people are working for the same RIGHT’s as Carl, just by other methodologies.
My approach to dealing with the old schoolers and their BS is a combination of both the collateral attack of the laws and the back door approach.
It is much easier to walk in the back door than to try and kick down the front…
Be Safe
ok so im catching some slak for my quote “even tho it rhyms” 😛 United we stand Devided we fall.. so cant we all just toke a long. peace
Just a suggestion. There is an old carpenters saying “measure twice >> cut once”. This also applies to writing and spelling.
The world is not idealistic utopia, the world will never be; the world will eat you up and spit you out without skipping a beat. The world has never been utopia, it hasn’t in 10,000 years so it surely isn’t going to start now.
You can pray until you turn blue, you can wish all you want >> it’s simply the sad truth. So what YOU do in your frame of reference is all that matters for those you intereact with…
Be Safe
i may not have a conventional view of things or go along with the popular vote at 26 ive been through hell and back so if the world was going to eat me up it would have already trust me its tried im realistic about the way things are but also hopefully about how things could be try as the world might it will not take that away from me thats why ive been here for the last few months because im hopefull i see you all snaping at each other and my hope fades and i cant stand that so i made a comment trying to help you see that a simple comment or a few spelling error are nothing the world is crap right now and it needs people to at least imagine it better other wise all hope is lost so if you think im unconventional and idealistic good i hope so i hope my kids are to. peace lil miss hopefull
those i interact with are children and the way i see it telling them all the time that the world is crap just dosent cut it so you trying to explain the facts of life to me is a waste of your time i had a daddy and dont need your negativity i came here for some postive information i guess thats over so peace out have fun talking to yourself.
Khrisha that is exactly what I was making reference to.
The most important thing(s) in this world should be your kids and your family. Fuck the rest of the world…
It would be nice to save everyone,or maybe just one (1) just one… but unless you’re building a n Ark…ain’t gonna happen. You have a good heart and it’s in the right place, so just follow your heart… it is you you look at in the mirror everyday..
Peace be with you and be safe…
Khrisha..
Sorry you feel I has talking about you, but then I was. Yes it is good you come on here and express your heart (since 99.9% EXPECT yours rights will be spoon fed you.. until they get busted) and talk from your heart, but when you post it for the world to read, don’t you think you may have just a little responsiblity to show you can spell..sorry I am not trying to talk down to you, just think twice and cut once…K…?
Peace
I sure as hell am not attempting to play your dad >> get real. AND I am talking about ME ?? >> just how am I talking about me?? a ghost figure, nameless?? Accept your deal and give it up, be nice or be gone..
Can you provide more information on this? greets
Marijuana/hemp are outlawed for one reason: Special Interests! The DuPont family hired a crooked congressman to outlaw it so their nylon interest would have no competition. Americans can buy hemp products from Europe/Canada, but our farmers can’t grow it ? Hypocrisy. Fraud.
Tobacco doesen’t want any competition nor does alcohol. And Big Pharma is amongst the worst of this company. People can function without all the side-effects of the pharmacueticals and yet the policy makers who decide whether or not to get real, get honest are stuck on stupid. These policy makers that continue to deny marijuana/hemp access to the “free market” place are incompetent, dishonest or both. Control freeks.
All of what you posted is true and then some. The reality is, the “good ole'” boys can’t live forever and then it will happen. Which is BS, it should have been 20 yeaqrs ago when it was recommended to Nixon!
Everyt state is short on funds, tax medical marijuana instead of making criminals and hatred towards the government as a whole…that would be too easy!
Do it just as the 13 legal states do, the special interests can F#$%^& Off.
This is America, not some goolag in Bumb Fuck Siberia…although sometimes I wonder? The way the legislators conceive to raise money for this state is raise the fines way out of proportions, (people should start challenging the fines and punishments as excessive under the FEDERAL CONSTITUTION) on everything>>>> Damn and they wonder why all the college grads are leaving the state! Go figure..
The Senate and the House needs an overhaul. TWO term limits, these “lifers” leaches on our system are the problem >>> not the solution. They get free health care and make more then most Americans do a year by triple!!! and a pension for life… like they sacrificed what? and our Vets get shit! It’s no wonder this country is broke…
I have lived in Iowa for about 10 years and I never thought I would see the legalization of gay marriage before marijuana in this state. Everyone (farmers, business people, sick people, etc.) here smokes pot, they just keep it secret, noone wants their neighbor to know. IMO, alcohol is a far more serious problem here than weed, and it is basically promoted and often cops look the other way when it comes to drunk drivers and public intox, people don’t like to ruffle feathers in Iowa, but I truly believe if we were allowed to have a public vote, marijuana would be legalized. Think of the tax revenue, people, think of putting the dangerous people that use dangerous drugs in jail, not the pothead down the street who will never hurt anyone or steal anything. Maybe, drugs like meth would become less of a problem here if everyone was allowed a safer, alternative like pot to get their high. I think if we don’t resolve this issue soon, there will be an even worse migration of young people out of this state and into areas of the US that provide the legislation we all want.
People…when is enough…enough? Are you a criminal because you smoke pot? ESPECIALLY if it releaves a medical condition! Who, where and why gave the BS authority to make laws to contradict reality? Is this a civilized country of compassion?
Sick really sick… Wall Street rip offs artists, big banks, credit card companies…all want your money, >> bail me out BC I have fucked you for years… but only because they have figured out a way to rip you off twice!!…who gave anyone the authority to rip off your right to releave pain and suffering >> or just deal with the fake laws?? MIGHT NEVER MAKES RIGHT!!!
Maedene Sappenfield is one of the nicest people I have ever had the pleasure of meeting. But I feel her religion affiliation may be a motivating factor behind her “opinion” on medical marijuana. She is a christian scientist. Although medical attention is aloud in this religion, prayer and denial of the diseases are often the recommended route in healing. Studies have shown higher mortality rates among Christian Scientists than those using conventional medicine, there are cases of individuals who have died following their choice of Christian Science care over medical treatment (my mother being one of them.) I’m not here to start a debate on whether this religion is right or wrong, but in this particular case I feel ‘someones’ opinion is highly influenced by it.
Maybe it is time to begin ousting members of the politariate who are so blind as not be able to read scientific data in support of medical marijuana use. Just like was done to the Supreme Court justices in Iowa.
“We the people”… not… “we the sheeple”… lead by megalmanical power freaks”.
This “we are too busy” attitude of the state of Iowa is BS!Board of Pharmacy passed the buck off thinking they wouldn’t have to respond…BUT then it was determined THEY have the authority, THEY changed their tune again >>> time for them to go!! Sucking off the tax payers and refusing to act in behalf of the majority of Iowans…
The state could generate millions in tax revenue and save law enforcement millions in victimless crime enforcement. The prisons could be used to house violent criminals.
So good ole boys, what is your justification to NOT backing the majority of Iowa citizens wants?
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It is typical government as usual, the pharamacy board said they didn’t have the authority or they would, they it was found out they did have the authority and refused “we need more time”. GIVE IT UP!!
Would you rather have your kids smoking K-2 or some other BS that WILL kill them or marijuanam which has NEVEr been known in history to cause a death or overdose!!
This governement is out of control and is in violation of the United States Constitution contract. It is illegal to make a right into a priviledge or make something illegal that is a right; and it is illegal to require a license for something that is a right. These are all cases which have been decided in favor of the citizens “we the people” by the United States Supreme court..so what’s so hard people? WE HAVE RIGHTS guarenteed by the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION contract… STAND UP FOR THEM OR LOOSE THEM..