Break out the recorders! Don’t let this one get away!
If I didn’t watch it with my own eyes I might not believed it possible: Televangelist and former Baptist minister Pat Robertson making a cogent argument on alternatives to arresting and incarcerating citizens who use drugs, with a clear emphasis on legalizing the possession of a few ounces of cannabis.
The 700 Club segment on alternatives to crime helps promote a new right-of-center organization that seeks to actively lobby for reform of the criminal justice system principally as a poor use of scant public funds called Right on Crime. Notable conservative activists such as Americans for Tax Reform’s Grover Norquist, American Conservative Union’s David Keane and Prison Fellowship Ministries’ Pat Nolan are spearheading this important new front in the now 40-year-old effort to reform cannabis laws.
Also, with unbelievable karmic timing, Pat Robertson endorses ending Cannabis Prohibition for possession of a few ounces at the 4:20 mark of the video.
Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.
Actually there is growing right wing support for cannabis legalization.But your right,who would have figured?
if you ever needed a real sign of the xtrian apocalypse, here it is……… next will be hemp for jesus….
This is good news,and an effort to bring a different demographic to the RIPS vs DIMS paradigm. Ron Paul and Judge Napolitano are having an affective development on the body politic.
It also shows you the DIMS are impotent in picking ‘low hung’ fruit. WarBama is such a massive disappointment.
Gov. Gary Johnson deserves our full support in 2012 !
Praise God!
Slowly but surely the tides are turning.Law enforcement and prison industry will squeeze and milk every drop of these pathetically labeled criminal funds/policies.
Until finally the majority of the public force this onto their representatives.
Not all people slapped with possession drug records(multiple or not) are bad folks, but the hurdles and stigmatization to move forward in life is unbelievable.
Even though I never thought I would see eye to eye with Mr.Robinson , I’m glad he had the courage , to come out with this. One does not need foresight anymore to see the negatives everywhere of these polices turning our citizens into 3rd class citizens.
This was the first thing I saw on the internet this morning, and all I can say is that Mercury must have come out of retrograde. This is mind-blowing and a great holiday gift from the Christians!
Lord be praised. Take that all you atheists. Ya that’s right God planted the first seed.
WOOOOO HooooooOO! I think this is a wonderful endorsement that will help us gain more support from faith-based conservatives.
Praise the Lord!?
BTW, check this out. A court in Montana was unable to seat a panel of jurors who would convict under the state’s marijuana laws.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/22/montana-jury-marijuana-mutiny_n_800074.html
It was the ministers that inspired the citizens our founders for what we are supposed to be today.
Uhm, pushing religion down the throats of non-violent prisoners is not going to solve anything.
As you can plainly see that a light has been shined on a old lie, I like to call it Congresses Constructive Fraud placed upon the people by denying them this God given plant depriving Citizens of their natural rights under the US Constitution. They have done this for the sake of the society but in fact the Constructive Fraud has been very harmful to the Nation as a whole. But now this Constructive fraud has a light on it and will be seen for what it has always been, A Fraud! I bet as the light growns brighter the folks like this here the Televangelist and former Baptist minister Pat Robertson running away from this fraud. Many like him will soon follow, even those in the Government will do an about faceas this constructive fraud is lite up and debated. I personally think our Government yelled FIRE! in a crowdy movie house (America) when there was none. They cause harm when they did this act of constructive fraud, people got trampled & killed under the panic they willfully and wantonly created for their personal gain. This is a violation of Common Law, a crime has been comitted, we have a harm upon the American population willfully commited by the Federal Goverment, each State on it’s own entered willfully into this Constructive Fraud with the Federal Government inwhich the RECO Law should come upon those violators.
Someone should excerpt a short clip of this and post it to Youtube for wide redistribution.
Hahaha…that is really funny! Sadly a lot of sheepish people listen to this man to guide them morally in their own lives. So it could have some actual impact on the issue…but really funny, and very ironic and strange to actually watch him say that.
This is FANTASTIC! I am thrilled that a few well-known names on the political Right are seeing the light re: marijuana prohibition. I don’t understand why it took them so long.
Besides, we must never forget that it was the Left wing PROGRESSIVES of the early 20th Century that started all of this drug law craziness in the 1st place. Mostly due to racial hatred, ‘cuz a lot of these laws were aimed @ Asian, Black, & Hispanic segments of US society: the Food & Drug Act of 1906, the Harrison Narcotics Act (both of which occurred when Teddy Roosevelt was POTUS, IIRC)….& then after alcohol Prohibition was eliminated by the 21st Amendment in 1933, the Progressives had to find another whipping boy, & that turned into the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937 (FDR — another Progressive POTUS) due to Black & Hispanic populations in the South.
Maybe now that we have BOTH sides of the political aisle questioning marijuana Prohibition we can get serious about making it legal again.
Bout time
pot laws …
i feel only after the border are safe and the cartel’s are either dead or in jail for there killing and crimes can we think of making pot league.
we need to take back the land and the rights of all there in and a bout there.
we did not make it this way but the cartels did . why should we feel bad about the law we are forced to make to keep the us safe !!!!
if we went back to having pray in school and the teaching of the bible in the first place , sorry to say this but i do believe in god and my saving grace … but there are many that dont feel this way . if they just used the bible as a way to live. and things to hold as a way to treat others and a life’s book of instructions we would be better off…. only then would we have a start…
as for obomba i am sorry but this law that was passed about gays is wrong wrong wrong ……
how many times in the bible does it talk about gay and how its against god.!!!!
i stand with you in the lord and believe your right but first things first…
is the sky falling i know weve made gains on public opion, but damn thats sweet to hear
Okay, I am starting to believe in Santa again. I had to keep listening because I couldn’t believe my ears!
I’m so confused. I’m not supposed to agree with Pat Robertson on anything! It’s great to have conservatives like Beck and Robertson somewhat on our side. It’s gonna take a lot more examples of this to let the Bible Belt know it’s ok to disagree with our drug laws and at the same time be smart and tough on crime.
If you consider how many [numerous] times I have insisted that God is the solution, you might understand how elated I am to see this post on NORML. I completely understand that this post suggests that faith can lead one away from drugs,and as far as hard drug addiction is concerned, my spirit is equally lifted. I’m still whirling with amazement that some prohibs have finally taken this position on our Holy Sacrament…Thank God!!! So! for those who do believe in God and God’s Holy Sacrament, it would be appropriate to view this with all the seriousness of a heart attack. God’s gift is the answer. Genesis I:29,30,31
Further proof that the legalization of marijuana isn’t a liberal vs. conservative issue. Liberals should want it legal for taxation and regulation purposes, and conservatives should want it legal for civil rights and personal freedom reasons. Can’t we just do this already?
This is encouraging to see a largely conservative media source such as the 700 club hint at rational cannabis policy. Older and socially conservative segments (700 club audience) of the population have received argueably the greatest deal of cannabis propaganda throughout their lifetime. For the audience to be exposed to sound cannabis rationale from one of their own is a strong step.
Maybe Pat Robertson will debate against some well known prohibitionist over this issue on his 700 Club. I’m sure he will get a lot viewers.
Finally compassion is shown from mainstream American religious leaders. Maybe they’ve been reading Dr Weil. I say recommended theologian studies should now accompany getting your mmj card. God only knows how much a lack of ethics exists even in the current underclass of mmj patients and supporters, much less the society as a whole. Everyone should be familiar with Tillich, St Augustine and Luther! Great going Rev Robertson! Now if only the Pope would get on board would I actually believe in Santa Claus.
Huzzah!!!!
wow,I gotta quit vaping before looking at stuff like this.
Now I have to wait 4 hours and read this again.
Well that will be seen by the Religious people sitting on the fence and may push them to our side!
win
I couldn’t watch a whole hour of it,but I did watch the first 4 minutes. I agreed with him.
During the early 1980’s, it started out as faith and self mind control and it was working until the politicians and the police force got involved with “Tough On Drugs” and scaring the people with their anti-gangs seminars and town hall meetings trying to persuade the public that their method is better.
Then came the frantic lies of Joyce Nalepka to Nancy Reagan.
I can not beleive some one finally has a brain. Even if it Pat Robertson, that want cannabis legal even if for a small amount.People do not deserve to be put in jail for a plant that God has given us!!
This is HUGE down here in the Bible Belt. Something else to add to my list. They mentioned Texas, I hope we ARE making changes in the way people think.
Thank You for publishing this story, As a Conservative Republican myself, People just don’t understand that this issue crosses the line in so many ways.
glad to hear that some of my fellow christians are thinking criticly and using common sense when it comes to matters like this.
I’m not a fan of corporate religion, I’ve been very hurt by the last church I went to and although these guys still don’t promote Marijuana but they seem to have the correct idea. This is the most honest discussion I’ve seen from a Christion organization I’ve seen yet.
If I had not been high when I heard the news, the shock would have overtaken me.
Looks like somebody did the math.
Too many laws, too many prisons, too many police.
Too many ruined lives.
Enough is enough.
HFS! I’m speechless…
Amazing that there is something that I agree with Pat Robertson about.
There’s got to be a catch somewhere. Surely.
Of course, he’s just jumping on the bandwagon at the last minute, before it leaves the station. I never remember him saying anything against Prohibition before. This is just a ploy to attract new listeners… a younger audience…be cautious.
heath care is not constitutional and its a republic form of government a constructional republic pat
and reform of the marijuana laws which are base in prohibition you know about that right hate the sin not the sinner , so make it all illegal and jail em all ah so now costing you cash ahhh yayayayay
GOD wants you out of the policy of man stick to gods laws and by the herb all are legal
Unbelievable and at 4:20 too! “God works in mysterous ways”.
“Building more prisons than schools”
hrmmmmmm, looks like things are starting to make sense now. Never saw this one coming! This is awesome, nothing in this country will get done unless BOTH SIDES are in alignment. And until now, due to the polical games played which prevent politicians from acting to change our policies, both of our ‘twin’ parties have been on the wrong side of this issue. Election after election, both parties try and top each other by being harder and harder on drugs.
But it looks like they are just pushing these failing policies harder and harder on honest, tax-paying and hard working americans that are making one PRIVATE choice: to smoke marijuana.
PLEASE, let us close prisons, convert them to schools and divert these taxes into education. Both education to prevent hard drug abuse and education to better prepare our children for the future because right now, we are failing on BOTH fronts!
nothing will change in drug policy until both liberals and conservatives begin to realize that it’s an issue they can both get behind. and it definitely looks like that is starting to happen.
Prison fellowship is just using the government to brainwash prisoners into their faith. It has no evidence that it helps the public out at all. This is bullshit. Protect the separation of church and state.
One toke over the line, sweet Jesus, one toke over the line. dennis
He must have finally realized that by digging a grave for someone else provides work for the unemployed until there are so many unemployed that putting them in prison to make work for someone else is prohibitively expensive.
He must also finally have realized that the nation has to find a sustainable way to keep revenues flowing into the public coffers while cutting programs if it is not going to raise taxes. President Obama said as much today in his news conference, however he did not mention legalizing cannabis. He’ll want to use the “cat’s paw” for that–someone else will have to do all the hard work and he’ll sign it into law.
Really though, it must be money.
The faithful, being out of work these days, must be contributing less in the collection plates. Legalizing cannabis would make jobs.
Let’s have the geographic regional conferences to legalize cannabis, and may the best plan be adopted by the authorities. The time is now.
Let’s not let another spring go by and let U.S. farmers miss the time cannabis should be planted because of prohibition.
Amen, it is about time Christians get behind the movement because they see the insanity of Prohibition. Marijuana is not a crime, God gave us the Herb bearing seed to use and prosper.
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Don’t forget that this guy agreed with Jerry Falwell about 9/11 being caused by gays, feminists, and “abortionists”. Pat himself claimed God sent Hurricane Katrina to punish New Orleans for hosting a gay pride convention. Still, for ol’ Pat to connect the dots from a couple of ounces of pot to mandatory minimums to creating criminals of youth to wasting time and money was a miracle.
As for the rest, I’m fine with prisoners (ones that deserve and require imprisonment) given the opportunity to find religion and religious fellowship, so long as there are equal opportunities at redemption given without religion (access to education, non religious fellowships, etc.) for the non-believers.
This means all the hypocritical ” Devil ( & most of them are ) worshipping liars that call themselves Christians that there actually is one real Christian out there .
Hmmm, good point, Russ .Guess i should of read all the posts ( especially yours ) before making any comments . Ol’ Pat has gotten better but, obviously has still got some polishing up to do .
Maybe God will give him another chance –
Praise the Lord and pass the Puna Butter!
Every minister or men of the cloth that really cares about the people in his church should feel the exact same way. If they really care about the people in their community they will start drives within the church and communities to stop arresting individuals every 37 seconds for posession of marijuana. It is immoral. You know its interesting that a backwoods preacher can finally see the truth but the United Nations which if fully aware that 10’s of thousands of people are dying every day in this world over this very issue and the United Nations are mute. When will the United Nations finally show some balls and state that any penalty for the posession of marijuana is immoral. How about it United Nations? You cant let the the US Govt buy you off forever, If you allow that youll lose credibility. (Thats funny right there now, the word credibility and the United Nations in the same sentence. lol)
Holy Smokes. HOLY SMOKES.
The Rev.sLeezy
I’ve always thought that the constituencies of social conservatives as a major stumbling block for legalization, under the premise they will come out in droves to protect their children from candidates supporting perfectly acceptable adult behavior. But with the recent shift in polling trends over the past five/six years, due to electoral shifts from the generational gap, I view this as further signaling a tipping point in the shift of cultural mores. The plan to convert prisoners to see the holy light sounded eerily akin to scientology, but secularists like myself party with succubus.
Russ..your brilliant . You seem to have a way with taking the words directly out of my mind and mouth then putting it on ” paper ” . Couldn’t agree with you more .
I also agree that Christians are not Christians when they justify persecuting anyone using Marijuana while they use Alcohol and other ” man made ” drugs . I have a friend named, Don Chin who deeply believes he is a Christian, lives in a near million dollar home, uses drugs containing caffeine and drinks Alcohol then condems me because of a medical need of Marijuana .
Ridiculous .
Even HIS GOD allows him to see the light.All of the plants on this planet are here for a reason.Marijuana just happened to be the most misunderstood, or was it.The people who smoke pot responsibly function just fine on a daily basis.The government and RELIGOUS factions of this country are the ones who fight legaization the hardest.
My daughter asked me would I let a 12 yr. old smoke pot? I said no of course, ALTHOUGH if said child insisted on doing it anyway I would also prefer they do it at home so they can be supervised.This is responsible parenting.THANK GOD MY CHILDREN ARE GROWN AND RAISED!!!!In this day and age if your 12 yr old is smoking pot and gets caught ,they can say goodbye and so can the parents since parents are responsible for their childrens actions,Just more money and federal funds to be wasted on incarcerating the population of this country.We lead the world in number of prisons and number of people in prison.When are the people of this country going to wake up and demand a stop be put to this failed policy?
35 Jon
36 Steven
40 Rational Voice
50 Okie Nate
Checkout Christians for Cannabis .com
42 Massvocals
Genesis I:29,30,31…God’s law.
“That’s what I’m talkin’ about. Now! everyone is talkin’ God. He was there when we needed him – we just weren’t there. Be proud of God and his gift of Sacrament. Can’t ya feel God’s love!
2012 here we come!
We even got the NUTS onboard now….Yeah! Hm I guess – Right
I have supported doctor robertson for 25 years as a member of the 700 club and the user of medicinal marijuana for longer and people should listen to this man he’s been very successful in life any news many things take his word on this 1
The religious proselytizing on these comments is ridiculous. Decriminalization and legalization needs to be bipartisan, religiously tolerant, and accepting movement. That being said, I agree with Buchanan on pot, despite his insane religious views and homophobia.
I’m not religious but I think if hell exist it just froze over!!! Maybe someone can get in contact with these religious organizations who are serious about ending prohibition and add them to our team and finally end the war on drugs!!!
I’m happy to have another voice in our favor – and it’s a very recognizable and powerful one (in that it reaches lots of people who may have been waiting for a sign from God). As an athiest, I disagree with almost every word that comes out of his mouth however. But, maybe now our elected leaders will pay attention; I know, I’m probably dreaming…
If I get the chance, Gary Johnson will definately get my vote to become the next president.
I have always placed value on Dr. Robertson’s viewpoints. Historically, his insight has preluded future events.
Wow Dude, did I wake up in bizarro world? As a philosophical Buddhist, I seldom have occasion to agree with Mr. Robertson, so this was a nice Xmas surprise.
WOW!…. hell has frozen over… or something…. there has to be a catch…
I think this video is appropriate
When the numbers are so bad that even the Christian right can see that our drug laws are killing our society it makes me wonder how long it will take our elected officials to wake up and change this horrible law! I guess it has become obvious to most of us that this really needs to change. It also says a lot about how powerful the prohibition lobby is!!!
its GREAT that Pat has said this.. but its not time for us to relax… We should get twice as loud… Mr. Robertson’s comment will make it easier for us to be heard. but now I recomend we get as loud as possible. and every spare second we have posting or saying something about legalization or educating people. then relax BIGTIME when its legalized!!
If Mr Robertson is reading this website, I just want to thank him for having the balls to do what so many others haven’t: speak the truth.
NATURAL LAW… in full effect! Gotta love the 4:20 timeline. Divine intervention or Jesus just saying ‘HIGH’ :-]
Happy Holidays!
pROMOTE pEACE
I am a NORML-supporting believer in the whole of the Apostles’ Creed, a humble sinner depending on faith in Jesus’s shed blood, wanting to use (medicinally) God’s garden as He provided including raw milk and cannabis, and I am so VERY glad to fully back Mr. Robertson’s position. This is possibly even better than Dobson’s repudiation of the GOP-backed RINO in favor of backing libertarian Constitutionalist Rand Paul in Kentucky’s Senate race, as an indicator of a sincere belief in our Declaration of Independence for which some of “my people” fought in the Revolution. So happy to say I TOLD YOU SO NORML!
Seems like the ONLY segment of our society that still believes in prohibition are the ones who are paid to keep it in place.
Funny that.
Merry Christmas peace mongers.
It has come for the time of reason, I Pray
For my only soul ponders This World
Ever since I was like 14, I openly wondered to just about anyone why alcohol was legal, but cannabis illegal, since alcohol is objectively so much worse.
Now I’m just happy that more people are supporting ending cannabis prohibition, and I’m gonna smoke some medical cannabis to celebrate.
This should wake up some of the “Bible Beaters” here in the south. Most of the “Bible Beaters” don’t even realize that their neighbors are growing it! The Hemp industry would revitalize all those little southern towns that use to make textiles. Hopefully, we’ll be able to farm big plots AND have them blessed!!!
I thank GOD for it.
Its time for the Church deal with the issue.
I think that Pat might actually realize, or perhaps be aware, that millions of people who also happen to be Christians use pot. He is not an idiot and many people value his opinion. You might find that he could sway a lot of people who have no interest in legalization to move to a more moderate position.
NORML should acknowledge him and make a genuine effort to enlist his endorsement.
Marijuana will be legalized when the U.S. government runs out of money and goes bankrupt. It’s pretty ironic that this is going to happen. With the way things are going maybe sooner than later! Even the God crew is going under.
ya know, he is so right about prison damaging young people. a close friend of mine went to prison at 19 for possession of marijuana, for 5 years and is completely changed because of it. Living in prison is a mind altering experience. and it is definitely one of those things you don’t realize until you’re close with someone who has been through it.
You guys have got to try the new snow cones they’re making in hell….
Even though Pat Robinson probably meant what he said; his christian Coalition Brothers say his comment was taken out of context. Kinda like the head of the DEA saying the war on drugs is working ,just look at all the deaths in Mexico.kinda like Obama saying he would be alright with what science agrees on,or even when Gil the drug czar was the top cop in Seatle( marijuana was his least priority)a new gov job,hell no on MJ decriminalization. cannabis will never be legal until a national revolt.
Make no mistake – Robertson doesn’t approve of cannabis, he disapproves of destroying “young lives” because of a couple of puffs of cannabis. I give the man credit for having good sense. Too bad the politicos in his flock can’t follow his lead. Maybe he will be the good shepherd and save his flock from the wolves. Let’s hope so.
Another Christmas present to the people in Florida
Gov.-elect Scott gives state workers pink slips for Christmas
http://www.floridacapitalnews.com/article/20101222/CAPITOLNEWS/12220326
“Scores of employees in the upper reaches of state government, including the governor’s drug czar and his small staff, got pink slips during the week before Christmas.”
Onward Christian Soldiers
Now to root out Calvina Fay and her piss in the cup partners.
Merry Christmas
Pat’d eyes are not open to the truth. We are the greatest funders of terrorism. When we fuel our gas tanks and the war on drugs funds terrorism. Biden responded to Pat this morning saying no to legallising that he thinks it is a gateway.
As a therapy, I agree that religion can be useful. However, they should offer inmates their choice of religion, at least – and choosing one should only be mandatory for violent offenders; Thieves, while annoying, don’t actually hurt anyone (before someone says it – any form of armed robbery is a violent crime, not just theft). Taking away a couple of years of their life because of money is more than enough punishment, but to additionally force them to believe something is cruel and unusual.
Then, everything that isn’t theft or an act of violence shouldn’t be considered a crime that can land you in prison. Further, we’d have to work on our justice system, and make sure there are no mistakes when it comes to verdicts. Under these conditions, and these conditions only, would I accept the state forcing religion on prisoners.
I’ve said it a million times, and I never see anyone else say it in a debate with a prohibitionist: Even assuming everything the media and government says about marijuana is true, how is giving someone a criminal record going to help them? If having a criminal record is so great for one’s future, why don’t we have a ‘slap-a-cop’ day on college campuses? Imagine how that would have helped the last three presidents to have had a criminal record for smoking pot. Or is it only poor people that it helps to have a criminal record? If there is too many of them to pay them all to bottle our soda and cook our fries, so we can cart some off to prison to boost our stock in the prison industry, is that it?
“Jury nullification” means that a jury finds a defendant innocent because the law itself is unjust, or is unjust in a particular application, and so should not be applied.
Does an American Jury have the power and the right to nullify the law? Is nullification a violation of the principle of the rule of law? Yes, and no, While it is common today for court judges to tell prospective jurors that they must apply the law as the court judge gives it to them and that jurors business is simply to determine whether the defendant has broken the law or not. But that is not the founding father’s intention by the right to trial by jury described in the Bill of Rights. As Thomas Jefferson said in 1782;
“…it is usual for the jurors to decide the fact, and to refer the law arising on it to the decision of the judges. But this division of the subject lies with their discretion only. And if the question relate to any point of public liberty, or if it be one of those in which the judges may be suspected of bias, the jury undertake to decide both law and fact.”
Thomas Jefferson is not talking about nullification per se, but about the power the jury has by taking the interpretation of the law into its own hands at trail.
We have this District of Columbia Circuit Court of Appeals case of the Unites States v. Dougherty, (1972), which said,
“The jury has an unreviewable and irreversible power…to acquit in disregard of the instructions on the law given by the trial judge…The pages of history shine on instances of the jury’s exercise of its prerogative to disregard uncontradicted evidence and instructions of the judge; for example, acquittals under the fugitive slave law.”
Does jury nullification contribute to, rather than mitigate, such judicial misbehavior? No, because it is part of the system of checks and balances itself — a check against the bias of judges and the irrationality and corruption that creeps steadily into the law, as irresponsible legislators and judges think about things other than justice. Jury nullification is not a violation of the rule of law because it is part of the rule of law.
The jury is the last line of defense, the last check and balance, against tyrannical government, if, that is, it is charged with determining the justice of a case and not just with blindly applying the law as given by a judge.
The interpretation of the law cannot be trusted to those with the power to enforce it also. The separation of powers between the judiciary and the executive in the federal government was not sufficient to prevent this, as
Jefferson’s maxim that only trial by jury can hold a government to the “principles of its constitution.” Since, as a matter of fact, a jury can practice nullification even if the judge tells it that it can’t, because its deliberations are secret and unrecorded, trial by jury is still, as long as jurors are brave and informed, one of the most important protections for freedom. Most Americans on jury duty blindly obey the judge, but occasionally feelings run high enough in important cases for juries to ignore the judge and do the right thing.
If the jury feels the law is unjust, we recognize the undisputed power of the jury to acquit, even if its verdict is contrary to the law as given by a judge, and contrary to the evidence…If the jury feels that the law under which the defendant is accused is unjust, or that exigent circumstances justified the actions of the accused, or for any reason which appeals to their logic or passion, the jury has the power to acquit, and the courts must abide by that decision.4th Circuit Court of Appeals, United States v. Moylan, 1969
Will you Rev Robertson tell the whole truth? Hemp laws are treason against the Republic. I read the US has 950 million acres of agracultural land. We use 400 million acres for food production. If we would have listened to George Washington, Hemp plant it everywhere. We would have the 10’s of million acres to produce all our fuel and oil needs. Instead we fund terrorism at the pumps and to help terrorists more we fund the war on drugs to drive that funding to billions. Who do We The People want to fund? American farmers or 74 years of propaganda scare tactics lie’s. Don’t be afraid to be a great man. Just tell the truth. Please. Ps How many cancers does it have to cure to be our birth right?
4th of July 2010 I drafted a letter faith leaders of all persuasion titled…
– FORMAL LETTER OF REQUEST TO PERFORM DISCUSSION ON MEDICAL MARIJUANA –
‘POT IN THE PULPIT INCLUDING ALL OTHER PLACES OF WORSHIP’
Fell FREE to download, read it and pass it around here: http://www.basicexposure.com/SG_Freedom_Leaf_.html
pROMOTE pEACE/hEMP/cANNABIS
93 fishcreekbob
Biden!!! Don’t make me laugh!!! I mean don’t make me cry!!!
95 Jason
Felons can’t vote. That means that’s one less vote for legalization. How many pot felons are there? Voter thinning is just as ??? as population thinning. A criminal record helps the prohibs. They don’t care who they destroy. The end justifies the means. That’s what Robertson is opposed to.
^^^^^ so true!!
(@CDXX)
I hope for Biden’s sake that he’s making an attempt at reverse psychology here. Dems support a woman’s right to choose what to do with her own body – how is that different? Oh that’s right, it doesn’t meet the requirement of destroying an innocent life, so they feel the need to do so for our “protection”.
http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/24/joe-biden-disagrees-with-pat-robertson-on-pot/
re: Religion
Some have found Jesus
Some have found Buddha
as Jason said,
Some are witness, I say too many laws, too many police, too many ruined lives.
I have my only soul, my gateway to Eternity.
I Wish You Peace
The Righteous Reverend Pat Robertson has embraced the decriminalization of cannabis? The Pat Robertson with vast commercial interests in Africa? The Pat Robertson who blamed 9/11/2001 on the abortionists, the atheists, and the gays? The Pat Robertson who called for the assassination of President Chavez of Venezuela?
That Pat Robertson? Well Reverend Robertson, welcome aboard the pro-cannabis band-wagon. Your voice added to the cacophony is welcome, indeed. Hopefully, you will have some other changes-of-heart to reveal in public. Otherwise (no offense intended), I’d rather not sit next to you on this band-wagon, thanks.
101 David Conner
Today is the foundation for peace on earth, good will towards mankind. In todays CDXX Communion [the meaning of CDXX] we have a special prayer for those P.O.W’s who cannot be with friends and family because they are incarcerated, deprived of their freedom, and their Constitutional right of Sacrament. Our prayer says…”Set my brethren free.”
To you Jason and to all my brethren, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays from the Genesist Faith.
We the People of these United States of America insist and demand that the present elected government employees return of our Country’s Constitution to and upon the American People FORTHWITH!
1. “The Constitution is a written instrument, as such, its meaning does not alter. That which it meant when it was adopted, it means now.” South Carolina vs United States 199 U.S. 437, 448 (1905).
2. “Every word appears to have been weighted with the utmost deliberation and its effect to have been fully understood.” Wright vs United States, 302 U.S. 583 (1938)
3. “Where rights are secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.” Miranda vs Arizona, 384 U.S. 436, 491.
4. “When any court violates the clean and unambiguous language of the Constitution, a FRAUD is perpetrated and no one is bound to obey it.” State vs Sutton Minn. (147, 65 NW 262, 30 L.R.A. 630 Am. St. 459)
We as Citizens of these United States have an absolute U.S. Constitutional Right to invoke Jury Nullification upon the any Court in the union as the last line of defense against a tyrannical wayward government, it’s unjustly applied laws, and protection against a corrupt legislative body. It is every US Citizen’s duty to defend our liberty and freedom by the use of Article 9 of the United States Bill of Rights.
How do We the People of this fine country take back our liberty and freedom from a tyrannical wayward government? How do We the People get fair representation when our Legislators have been bought by corp. lobbyist and corrupted away from our nation’s constitutional values and principles? How do We the People get justice or a redress of grievance from any court when the lawyers have destroyed and corrupted the very rule of law? We the People are left with only one intact last line of peaceful defense to protect ourselves from the tyrants, “Jury Nullification” which means that a jury finds a defendant innocent because the law itself is unjust, or is unjust in a particular application, and so should not be applied upon the Citizen.
Dose the American Jury in criminal cases before the Court have the power and the Constitutional Right to nullify the law? Is Jury Nullification a violation of the principle of the rule of law? The Answer is both, yes, and no. While it is common today for court judges to tell their prospective jurors that they must apply the law as the court judge gives it to the jury and that jurors business is simple, it is to determine whether the defendant has broken the law or not. But that is not the founding father’s intention at all when they wrote the right to trial by jury clause in the 9th Article of the Bill of Rights. In 1782 Constitutional founding father Thomas Jefferson said,“…it is usual for the jurors to decide the fact, and to refer the law arising on it to the decision of the judges. But this division of the subject lies with their discretion only. And if the question relate to any point of public liberty, or if it be one of those in which the judges may be suspected of bias, the jury undertake to decide both law and fact.”
Thomas Jefferson is not talking about nullification per se, but about the power the jury has by taking the interpretation of the law into its own hands at trail.
We have this District of Columbia Circuit Court of Appeals case of the Unites States v. Dougherty, (1972), which said,
“The jury has an unreviewable and irreversible power…to acquit in disregard of the instructions on the law given by the trial judge…The pages of history shine on instances of the jury’s exercise of its prerogative to disregard uncontradicted evidence and instructions of the judge; for example, acquittals under the fugitive slave law.”Does Jury Nullification contribute to, rather than mitigate, such judicial misbehavior? No, because it is part of the system of checks and balances itself — a check against the bias of judges and the irrationality and corruption that creeps steadily into the law, as irresponsible legislators and judges think about things other than justice. Jury nullification is not a violation of the rule of law because it is part of the rule of law.
The jury is the last line of defense, the last check and balance, against tyrannical government, if, that is, it is charged with determining the justice of a case and not just with blindly applying the law as given by a judge.
The interpretation of the law cannot be trusted to those with the power to enforce it also. The separation of powers between the judiciary and the executive in the federal government was not sufficient to prevent this, as
Jefferson’s maxim that only trial by jury can hold a government to the “principles of its Constitution.” Since, as a matter of fact, a jury can practice nullification even if the judge tells it that it can’t, because its deliberations are secret and unrecorded, trial by jury is still, as long as jurors are brave and informed, one of the most important protections for freedom. Most Americans on jury duty today blindly obey the court judge, but occasionally feelings run high enough in important cases for juries to ignore the judge and do the right thing.
(4th Circuit Court of Appeals, United States v. Moylan, 1969)
“If the jury feels the law is unjust, we recognize the undisputed power of the jury to acquit, even if its verdict is contrary to the law as given by a judge, and contrary to the evidence…If the jury feels that the law under which the defendant is accused is unjust, or that exigent circumstances justified the actions of the accused, or for any reason which appeals to their logic or passion, the jury has the power to acquit, and the courts must abide by that decision.”You as an American Juror are not obligated to enforce bad laws! You as an American Juror do not have to send your fellow citizens to jail or prison who you don’t think deserve to go there, regardless of what the prosecution says, regardless of the written law, and regardless of any court judge who tells you otherwise. You are not beholden to them, it is they who is beholden to you and every other citizens of American.
“If the legislator clearly misinterprets a constitutional provision, the frequent repetition of the wrong will not create a right.” Amos vs Mosley, 74 Fla. 555; 77 So. 619. (Congress)
rev pr is preaching saving the flock some mooola.
that kinda thing rings the bell of the compassionate con.
the flock also doesn’t mind releasing the brown skinned people from prison either as long as they go home.
had he made his presentation with a phatty on his lip … now that would have been better
ya think these folks, when they at long last discover the cannabis bliss will praise da lawd!?
even the kooks are gettin hip. haaaalaaaaaaaayLUUUUUUUJAH on dat.
wo and nice
I am a monothiest [belief in one God]. I don’t care if Pat Robertson is a primate with a large target tatooed on his chest – the man has taken a stand “in our favor.” For whatever his reason or purpose – he stands shoulder to shoulder with us. The man has put his ass on the line with a very large prohibitionist audience. That takes a great deal of balls and common sense. We should give him a geat deal praise for his courageous deed [which in my opinion is doing God’s work] – not throw rocks at him. We all know about casting the first stone. The true fact of the matter is…he doesn’t have to stand behind us…we should stand bedind him – 100%. Let’s not throw his ass to the lions with negative statements. In todays CDXX Communion we could examine our conscience and give thanks for the Rev’s support.
107 mtlasgana
You can believe that Robertson painfully considered law, reason, and common sense in his dedision to endorse a subsatance that [perhaps] contradicts his personal view. It is, however, his duty to God to use his “humane compassion” for his fellow man to over-ride the concerns of law. If the Rev. has alterior motives, he knows he will be judged by his boss. I don’t think he would risk that. I sure wouldn’t want God stalking me!
Wow, this network kind of scares me. Everything they talk about is fear inducing things aimed at one of the largest religions in the US, Christianity. Is this news?
i stopped smoking pot for the day when i read this one just had to make sure i wasn’t to high
Amazing Grace How sweet the sounds, that saved a wretch like me, so many ruined lives, it is time for all good people to also stand up, enough is enough I refuse to to toss the first stone.
Forgive me for being inquisitive but I can’t stop wondering if the Rev. has had any confrontation with Michele Leonart yet. Leonart, with her worst intentions, has made medical cannabis a target. A target does not leave a favorable impression. I wonder how the Rev. would react if we made it clear that anyone who would confirm her appointment as Director of the DEA, would themselves become a target in the next elections. I personally, make no bones about it. I would vote for my bad neighbor’s constantly barking dog before I would vote for anyone who would give Leonart a thumbs up. Hey! everything has a price. Not hearing the voice of the people carries a huge price tag.
I know for certain now that the world is in fact coming to an end. I’d swear that if you look at the Mayan Calendar, the second to last sign of the apocalypse is a picture of Pat Robertson trying to hand you a joint! So get your guns, stock up on food, ammo, lighters and rolling papers! Pat Robertson has signaled to us that there is one more sign, and then it’s lights out!
-Oz
Prohobitionists say the darnest things! The fact that they are prohibs speaks for itself. Maybe we should say a prayer for them – because – if anybody ever needed a prayer – it’s them!!! So! “Forgive them Lord, for they know not what they do.”
Who tossed the first stone
I wonder why
This seems like good news. He appeals to and influences a whole group of people very, very different from me.
117 Nic
There was a young man who spent much of his time trying to figure out how he could fool the old man. One day he said to his click; I know, he said, I’ll hold a bird cupped in my hands. I’ll ask the old man; old man, is the bird in my hands dead or alive. If the old man says the bird is alive, I’ll squeeze my hands until the bird is dead. If the old man says the bird is dead, I’ll open my hands and the bird will fly away. So the young man went to the old man and said; “Old man, is the bird in my hands dead or alive.” The old man replied; “My son, the bird is in your hands.”
The stone was “in the hands” of the first one to make a negative statement about a wise old man’s motive. Why the stone was thrown is anyone’s guess. One thing is for sure; “Ya don’t bite the hand that feeds ya.”
Are you certain/sure about the motives of the first one to toss a stone, do you have enough feed?
How much longer can this cruel world survive ?
I pray with my only soul, and I see
Cannabis and the dreams surprise you, so many have inhaled and became world leaders, is it your time?
I pray for your tormented soul/mind
120 Nic
We always wanted a “Pide Piper of pot reform.” Now we got one – so – let’s see where he leads us. His tune is simply to protect his flock from the perils of the Justice System. God bless him for that.
The stone thrower will just have to find justice in his or her own conscience. He who is free of bad mouthing a good deed [can] cast the first stone. Who would that be – and – why?
2 barf
Hey barf man! Check out Christians for Cannabis.
The Justice System is broken, it has been corrupted.
123 Nic
Three choices – right!
!. Shoot the bastards! Shakespeare said “Shoot all the lawyers.” They’re all lawyers.
2. Stand up! You have to be willing to fall where you stand.
3. Suicide? Suicide is not as easy as it sounds. It will scratch that itch one can’t get to.
4. I guess the choice is number 2.
See i told yall praying works. Now if all of yall who are not regester to vote get regster and vote
125 P.A.M.P
Of course you’re right – “praying works.” It’s a “collective force” – and – the force be with ya!. You get 50% praying for it – and – it won’t matter what the 50% praying against says or does – ho hum!
You gather the 50% praying for it, and put them on the steps of government, that collective mass will stretch to the Pacific Coast. Government will pay attention if they “think” somebody has a rope in their hand.
The CDXX Revival
San Diego Colony
@ 124
and wondering
I submit the blood
The Justice System is Broken
When option 3 becomes unprofitable
We’ those people will come forth to take you Prohibitionists down, an extra foot deep so you will be buried.
Never to remember the likes of such insanity.
Now it should be considered as a holy smoke….
Hell,even my grandmother got a bottle of wine (for the first time) because Pat Robertson said it was good for your health. Pat,thank you for the support and endorsement!
127, 128, 129 Nic
I think we’re on the same page – but – I’m not sure.
This eve unfolds a new year, I wish you all peace in 2011.
I pray for all the young people/citizens in prisons.
If your only crime was inhaling cannabis, woe to the jailer, woe to the police, woe to the judge, secretly in your dreams you realize your place.
The Place is in your ‘mind, The Space is your ‘soul
“Unique – as individuals – we live our lives – and comprehend our existence – within our minds – at the level of our awareness. It is our mind that makes it so.” It’s my conscience, that voice from “within,” the Familiar Spirit of God, that my spirit self answers to.” The individual mind is its own private place, guarded by our conscience – as the King – that ethical part of us that decides what we are going to do – as the warrior – that has a task transcendent to our self – that part of us that is the defender of the boundaries [not the warrior that is the killer]. Like God, our eyes are open, and we know good from evil [Genesis III:5], that which lies at the core of every religion. Evil must exist, so that good may exist. The struggle between good and evil is the primal disease of the mind. Good and evil are a battle ground for our individual eternal soul. Free will can lead us to good or evil – but – Genesists are not hubris, and above all else, express no comparison [set apart] or superiority to any religion, as all religions are devoted to God. It could be said that there is no good or evil, [it is] only the mind that makes it so. We alone, as individuals, hold the power to allow or reject the forces of evil to creep into, consume our soul, and hold us in bondage to it. “We live our lives – on the basis of our knowledge of good and evil – guided by our conscience.” [It is] our mind that makes it so. So then! – this is why [it is] the Genesist’s free, true, un-weakened, and fearless Conscience that invites evil’s presence – “calls it out – to appear – in plain sight – face to face – toe to toe – to do battle.” Genesists have certainty that evil is not a difficult enemy [force] to defeat. Genesists are confident that evil and its minions are no match for Equilibrium of the Soul – that Equilibrium of the Soul is impossible to conquer.
The correct word eludes my mind, yet my soul says AMEN.
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political and spiritual bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
Stay In The Light
The people speak, but our corrupt government only listens to big business. Land of the rich and home of the slaves!!!!!
135 Nic
I don’t think spiritual bonds is quoted – but – we hear the words anyway. Did you check out Gives Thanks and Praises post 25. Divide and conquer is one thought. A house divided, will not stand, is another. I suggest the “Reformation” – take a stand – seek FREEDOM – the word you are looking for. Seek the truth. The truth will defeat the “Big Lie.” The truth will set you FREE.
Yes! Stay in the light.
Genesis the Faith – San Diego Colony.
One Step Into Infinity
Infinite Eternal Justice, The Light Illuminates The Path
Is it time?
Do you wonder, who do you trust?
Do you trust Eric Holder, Do you trust a Holy priest, do you trust your Lawyer, do you trust your neighbor ?
In the meantime ‘we the people are slaughtered The Fat and The Rich only want to be fed.
Austerity
Prepare
Prepare your spiritual ‘place”
138 Nic
“Trust Your self.” Trust in what you believe. Stand up for what you believe in. Let your conscience be your guide. You’re on the right path when your on your individual path.
Genesis the Faith – San Diego Colony.
Can it be… When will weed be legal. But while its not herbal incense is
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here is the video of Pat saying it on the 700 Club
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