The Obama administration’s position on medical marijuana, circa 2009 (via the Ogden memo to all United States attorneys):
“The prosecution of significant traffickers of illegal drugs, including marijuana, and the disruption of illegal drug manufacturing and trafficking networks continues to be a core priority in the Department’s efforts against narcotics and dangerous drugs, and the Department’s investigative and prosecutorial resources should be directed towards these objectives. As a general matter, pursuit of these priorities should not focus federal resources in your States on individuals whose actions are in clear and unambiguous compliance with existing state laws providing for the medical use of marijuana.”
The Obama administration’s position on medical marijuana, circa 2011 (via the May 2, 2011 letter sent from the office of the United States Attorney, District of Arizona, to the Arizona Department of Health Services re: the implementation of the voter-approved Medical Marijuana Program):
“The United States Attorneys Office … will vigorously prosecute individuals and organizations that participate in the unlawful manufacturing, distribution and marketing activity involving marijuana, even if such activities are permitted under state law.”
A lot can change in two years — including the administration’s attitude toward the state-authorized use and distribution of cannabis for medical purposes.
In April, NORML blogged about the U.S. Department of Justice, particularly U.S. Attorneys Jenny Durkan of Seattle and Michael Ormsby of Spokane, threatening “civil and criminal legal remedies” (read: sanctions) against Washington state citizens, including state employees, who assist with or engage in the production or distribution of medical cannabis, “even if such activities are permitted under state law.” The U.S. Attorneys’ threats came in response to an inquiry from Gov. Chris Gregoire, a Democrat, who most likely was seeking ‘political cover’ so that she could publicly ‘justify’ her veto of legislation (SB 5073) that sought to license and regulate the dispensing of medical cannabis to qualified persons, and would have enacted additional legal protections for patients who voluntarily participated in a statewide registry. The threats worked; Gov. Gregoire cited them in her veto statement Friday.
In fact, the threats worked so well, that in recent days U.S. Attorneys in other states with active medical marijuana programs have begun issuing similar menacing statements.
Last week in Colorado, where state regulators have licensed over 800 state-licensed medical cannabis dispensaries, U.S. Attorney John Walsh sent a letter to the state’s Attorney General alleging that the federal Justice Department will “vigorously” prosecute individuals or organizations engaged in “unlawful manufacturing and distribution activity involving marijuana, even if such activities are permitted under state law.” A spokesman for Walsh’s office adds, “In the eye of the federal government, there’s only one type of marijuana. And marijuana is a Schedule I controlled [federally prohibited] substance.”
Arizona U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke fired off a similarly worded letter this week to Will Humble, the director of the state Department of Health Services, which is overseeing the implementation of Proposition 203. Under the law, which was approved by voters last fall and was enacted on April 15, the state must register qualified patients who have a doctor’s recommendation for cannabis and also license dispensaries to provide it to them. However, according to Burke, said dispensaries that are compliant with the state’s law will “not [be] protect[ed] from [federal] criminal prosecution, asset forfeiture, and other civil penalties.”
Finally, in Rhode Island, Gov. Lincoln Chafee announced this week that he is suspending the state’s nascent medical marijuana distribution program, set to begin this June. In March, the representatives from the Rhode Island Department of Health selected three applicants to operate the state’s first-ever, government licensed medical cannabis dispensaries. (The dispensaries program was initially approved by lawmakers in 2009, but the winning applicants were not decided upon until two years later.) Predictably, Chafee’s abrupt change of heart came after receiving a hand-delivered letter from U.S. Attorney Peter F. Neronha Friday threatening to prosecute civilly and/or criminally those involved in the dispensary program.
So what’s the impetus for the Obama administration’s sudden decision to play rhetorical hard ball? NORML Outreach Coordinator and podcaster Russ Belville speculates:
“Mr. Obama’s … true intention is to stifle the development of any viable legal cannabis distribution industry. By sending threat letters to Rhode Island and Arizona, states that have created clear and unambiguous laws for medical cannabis providers to follow, it is obvious that Mr. Obama isn’t opposed to medical cannabis, per se, but terribly opposed to medical cannabusiness.
Belville adds: “If (medical cannabusiness) establish (themselves), people will become accustomed to safe, secure, well-run businesses that deliver consistent, reliable, tested cannabis products. They’ll appreciate the way these places revitalize sagging economies, provide jobs, and contribute taxes to budget-starved localities. They’ll realize all the scaremongering by the government about what would happen if marijuana was legal, even for sick people, was hysterical propaganda. [And] they’ll begin to wonder why we don’t just legalize cannabis for everyone, create more jobs, raise more revenue, and use these established businesses as the distribution points.”
President Obama has officially lost my vote. Likewise, any one who opposes marijuana reform will not get my vote!
make it illegal for federal agencies to prosecute MMJ patients. simple.
“it is obvious that Mr. Obama isn’t opposed to medical cannabis, per se, but terribly opposed to medical cannabusiness.”
Russ, I agree with the vast majority of what you say. However I must add my 2 cents and say that Obama IS against MMJ. Don’t give this “man” any credit. He obviously thinks of patients like me as terrorists.
[Editor’s note: Claiming that the feds and Obama treat patients like terrorists is a ridiculous thing to write. Patients, as compared to a few large retail sellers and growers, are NOT arrested and harassed by the feds.]
The only ‘Refer Madness I see are the politicians that are SO SCARED to make any change and scared to make a stand for reform and change. Something so Simple ,growable and that ALREADY has A list of Good things that come from hemp, It is a SLAP in the Face to be told Hey Your dying and if you have any hope to live we must almost KILL YOU with Radiation But the only relief from it we won’t let you have BECAUSE IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
People got greedy…..
time to simply write the president and bug the crap out of him.
When CA legalized mmj and dispensaries began operating, the Feds raided them as CA state officials mostly stood back. However despite Feds efforts to quash dispensaries they lost the PR war badly and backed off. The battle then moved to localities, some favorable, many not. CA state politicians began to feel safe advocating for mmj. Politicians in other states do not yet feel confident about sticking their necks out for mmj. the Feds sensed an opportunity to get big mileage from strong threats, which are in many ways bluffs. But most state politicians A. aren’t super motivated to push for mmj B don’t really understand that federal capacity to prevail depends heavily on state cooperation. Were states to call the federal bluff with legalization etc, and withdrawal of states resources, the feds would then be forced to see if they could engage in a few high profile harsh prosecutions to see if they could scare away all the operators that they don’t have the resources to prosecute.
How can we get state officials to call the feds bluff? Unfortunately an unlucky few would be targeted and pay a very high price but the feds simply can’t get them all or even more than a few.
Sure let the mexicans make all the money on suppling all the cannibis they sure are making a killing at it now.
vote Ron Paul. he is anti drug war.
Great story, I still dislike the whole fear mongering thing. Why don’t the politicians that are issuing the lawyers get off their own asses and threaten the states instead of hiding behind their lawyers?
I know some good people who need jobs who used to be salesmen. Perfect opportunity to create jobs and actually make politicians focus on real matters. We shouldn’t be wasting our time asking ourselves if it should be legal and what would be the consequences. Our founding fathers have more balls then we do now. SMH.
This is a great point, because I believe no matter how much the people agree with Medical Cannabis the Feds aren’t going down without a unfair fight. This is proof of that. Even in a landslide victory nationwide in favor of Medical Cannabis would probably not bring an end to the “Prohibition”.
With that being said, I will still use Cannabis if I feel as though I need it, for Medical purposes, regardless of who supports it or not. In my religion its a medicine and I won’t let anyone tell me how to live my life or cure my cancer. Only I know what is best for me. The government didn’t raise me or teach me anything. So why would I need them now.
They should be worried about their money and the wars they start and not how people choose to heal themselves. Doctors heal, not politicians, or presidents
To those in the last article who claimed that “Obama is going to legalize if he wins re-election”: Fail.
And did you see the CNN is claiming they found marijuana reports at the Osama bin Ladin compound??? How timely.
The reasoning is simple. DEA has agreed to allow testing and design of cannabis based medicines for the pharmecutical companies while stateing “smoked cannabis is not medicine” thereby allowing the industry to profit from cannabis and to hellp ensure that cannabis stays illegal. This will allow other indusrties who thrive on cannabis/hemp prohibition to continue to profit and provide campaign contributions. Simple political economics folks.
Juat was wondering if anyone knows the new DNC: Debbie Sultze, policies on prohibition?
yes Mr. Belville, complete legalization is the only answer. it will be accomplished by a ballot initiative referendum when enough people understand that the lawyers, politicians, and special interests are only considering their own personal agenda’s. until then, we can all watch thru the smoke and mirrors provided by years of propaganda. unfortunately, a lot of people believe the propaganda, even cannabis users.
Cowards, all of them. It figures they would cower when the feds start talking big. We have to do it ourselves, what most of you have known all along. I am not scared, and I want my right to consume cannabis back!!!
Who would have guessed that Obama’s Justice Dept would be tougher on marijuana than Bush’s?
He lost my vote, too.
To all politicians, no marijuana for me = no vote for you. have a nice day
We’ve gotta keep fighting and spreading the message of activism! Check out CannabisTV.org for tons of educational cannabis videos and watch Cannabis TV live online on Wednesdays at 8pm Pacific, it’s on right now actually. Spread the word.
Have you guys at NORML started looking for other jobs yet? It seems you’re fighting a battle that you will NEVER win! What’s the point of having state mmj laws if the feds are going to prosecute anyway? It seems a big waste! Might as well try to come up with a program for the black market with all the energy you’re blowin on getting cannabis legalized on the fed level.
Vote Gary Johnson 2012!
Can anyone give any reason why they are stepping up spending on this issue? It defies all logic and common sense. Why are they trying to create an even larger prison state, when they could just as easily change their policy the other way and have a net gain of about $100 billion annually while substantially cutting unemployment. Why are they so idiotic? Someone tell me why, please?
Holy shit, they do not deserve to be getting paid to create policies that “vigorously” enforce arresting people for using what is objectively one of the safest substances known to man. Disregarding all the science and personal freedom arguments that prove cannabis should be legalized, why are they at least not jumping on board with the economic argument?
I wish everyone would just open their eyes and see that the feds are not only breaking OUR (not theirs) constitution by directly violating amendment 10, they are also spending our money (taxes) to do so. And it is incredibly obvious at this point that they want to create a prison state. The feds are not on the side of the American people. Keep that in mind at all times.
Does Obama even realize that he lost all of the young voters who helped get him this one term? How is our president so dumb?
Also, everyone jump on the Ron Paul bandwagon – let’s get him the official Republican candidacy. Decriminalization of all drugs makes so much more sense than our current absurd policy. You can look at it from any angle and reach this same objective conclusion. It’s not even an argument.
I also really hope that leaders of the black community show this news to all the black people they know, and also make sure to emphasize that black people are already objectively treated unfairly by these laws, so “vigorously” enforcing them only hurts the black community.
Thus, I hope they can get past the fact that they should vote for him just because of the color of his skin. He is blatantly not on their side. We need to educate them as much as we can.
The TRANSPARENCY of the evil side of the FEDS is like living in a BANANA REPUBLIC with a TALIBAN MENTALITY. MARIJUANA PROHIBITION as their beacon of power to spread FEDERALISM and their MORALITY against the wants of the CITIZENS so they can protect BIG PHARMA and other INDUSTRIES and stomp on our CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. Now that BIN LADEN is frolicking with all those virgins in the heaven that he believed in, we are still living under the DARK SIDE of MARIJUANA PROHIBITION, a INFERNO OF A LIVING HELL of unjust laws and TOTALITARIAN CONTROL. The battle of CIVILITY and FEDERALISM goes on as the 21ST CENTURY INQUISITORS get their BLANK CHECK on our tax dollars to keep the war on drugs their FANTASY OF REALITY.
We could be past this if Prop. 19 had passed. 2012 might be the last chance for a while. They will be coming for you next CA. I too thought that maybe Obama was waiting until second term, but after this, it looks like I’ll be voting for Ron Paul or Gary Johnson.
Pfft. Of course he changed his mind when he got in office. It’s a political tool for it to be illegal. Arresting people creates jobs and keeps the public in fear.
On top of that, it allows the CIA and other NWO leaders to funnel money into Mexico and Canada illegally so that they can introduce an American Union when the dollar’s value falls.
The marijuana revolution. The time has come.
If 50 million Americans smoke pot regularly and these 50 million show up to vote in 2012, maybe we can get rid of Obama and vote in Gary Johnson.
That would be a good start. He did a GREAT job as governor of New Mexico.
Obama and his administration are only shooting themselves in the foot. Sure they are only stifling a potentially monster economic opportunity,but they are enhancing prison growth,and after all that is one of America’s largest industries.We have to start now to end the powerful police state,and attempt to create a more peaceful society.Ron Paul and Gary Johnson seem to believe that people’s right’s are more important than corporations rights,and to me that would be a large step in the right direction. OBAMA MUST GO!!!!!!!!!!
Just a thought, perhaps approaching cannabis for medication may not work best. If we could raise money and approach the issue from a buissness standpoint with campaign contributions (play their game) for Hemp legalization for industrial uses such as alternative energy as the fed dose not discerne one from the other we might be able to sway opinion as gasoline prices continue to rise and create situations where it costs more just to get to work than you make daily.
People have already realized that prohibition is an atrocity. They are either apathetic because they don’t smoke or afraid of the repercussions of standing up to the government.
I have to agree with Mark. Johnson did a great job in New Mexico for eight years when I lived there.
Gary Johnson will be part of the South Carolina debate on FOX News tonight and he will also be on Shawn Hannity after the debate.
Gary Johnson believes marijuana should be legal and has said this for years. You can complain about Obama all you want but put your money where your mouth is and help get Gary Johnson elected.
I dont know how long ABC News (on-line) keeps stories for viewing but today there was a story about a Montana father and his two year old son.
The child had a brain tumor which the doctors removed 10%.
This kid was practically on his death bed when his father unbeknowning to the doctors dosed him Medical Marijuana Oil.
Eventually the tumor disappeared surprising the attending doctors.
If the story is still there it’s worth watching.
Oh here we go again. They sure like to scare people don’t they?
i said this 3 months ago, a ron paul/gary johnson ticket, with complete legalization of all cannabis, industrial and medical as their major platform would win by a landslide. embracing the green tech of industrial cannabis for bio-fuel, paper, clothing, food, in the educational process during the campaign would give the american people a real eye opening realization of what has been stolen from them. knowing that medical marijuana is the safest, most non-toxic substance that cures cancer, treats everything inflammatory, muscular, and neurological and can be grown by the individual for pennies should make them realize all the lawyers and politicians have been after is control and the money. that’s why the growers and medical providers voted against it in california. you can either be for complete legalization or keep on whining.
Bring it. Everyone knows the government is fighting a losing battle. It’s just a matter of time before it’s legalized. A war on pot is just immoral. Just ask the 19 year old guy who got raped in prison for smoking it. The truth doesn’t stay hidden forever.
This is your president on drugs. Big Pharma drug$ that is. I’ll never vote for this liar again even if it means that Romney will be elected. What’s the difference? I hope this is what will unite all cannabis users to send a clear and strong message that you don’t screw with the people. Ten million votes + is a pretty strong swing if we hold our ground to vote out this sneaking liar. I’m starting to wonder if he ever inhaled at this point.
nORML YOU JUST DON’T GET IT. The fed doesn’t want normal everyday Americans to make money off of ANY DRUG!!!! They only want their DRUG PROFITEERS to make money off of getting you high. As for you schmucks blaming medical marijuana dispensaries for making money….FUCK YOU! The whole point (as I see it) is to take the profits from people who spend them on guns to terrorize Americans and others, and put it into the hands of otherwise law-abiding citizens!!! If some people are better at it than others, so be it!
The way I see it is as follows. Obama and co never envisioned the fact that the MMJ people would ever gain enough market share to cause a dent in the profits their friends make in the black-market (where they only bust competitors). As more dispensaries have popped up, the price for weed sold in the black market has had to come down, thus cutting into the profits made by black market dealers (ie The Fed, and it’s competitors).
It is time for you (NORML) to get off of your asses, and cut the touchy feely relationship you’ve had with Washington! You need to change your name back to National Organization for the REPEAL of Marijuana Laws!!! You are never going to get anywhere with the idea of “reform”! With one little stroke of his pen, Obama has DESTROYED all the progress you claim to have been such a help in creating .The American people as a whole are on the side of getting back the freedom to put what we want to into our bodies as we see fit! Time to start acting like you have our vote of confidence and push for full legalization!!!
-Oz
[Editor’s note: NORML not only gets it, it has been getting it done for 40 years! Elected officials are not going to support legalizing cannabis until well over 50% of the US public support such and citizens will not likely vote in binding initiatives if nearly 50% of them still fear cannabis (perceiving it incorrectly as more dangerous than alcohol products). Currently, about 45% of the US public claim in surveys to support legalization. More vexing, well under 1% of cannabis consumers are involved in the slightest with cannabis law reform efforts.
Unfortunately, much more work to perform before Congress repeals 74 years of Cannabis Prohibition!]
There are going to be a very large voters turnout in the presidential republican primaries because it’s very important to vote out the anti-cannabis wahoos that thrives on prohibition.
There are way to many people whining instead of figuring out how to mount viable activism. Your whining and not voting will do nothing but elect people who will even more draconian in terms of the war on drugs. If you think it can’t get worse your a fool. You may end up electing people that will shut the whole dame thing down. It can get worse. Its time to grow up.
Joel, if you think Republicans are going to legalize cannabis are sadly mistaken. They were also going to be passing all kinds of jobs bills. All they have passed is anti-abortion bills.
It’s not so much to “Consider” [consider only] cannabis a drug [a natural drug] – because – THC is a psycho-active [a harmless psycho-active]. But! – that it is the world’s “LEAST HARMFUL”[if at all] drug/substance scheduled in the “MOST DANGEROUS” drugs pew. You’ve got the right church – but – the wrong pew. That’s like Little Red Ridding Hood sitting in the Wolf’s pew. “Doesn’t make fuckin’ sense does it.” Well! – yes it does. The substance [the whole plant material extraction] has been given to pharmacy. Blink your eyes – and – the next thing you know – you’ll be getting your shit from a government pharmacist, with a physician’s prescription to a schedule III substance – THC [already a legal drug/substance]. In the meantime – government is shutting down – “prohibiting”- cannabis completely, in every way possible – Government Supremacy Clause. “You can have the orange juice – but – you can’t touch the orange – or you shall die.” Ever heard that one before “Forbidden Fruit – touch it and your dead.” BTW – you can only get the orange juice from us.
The solution and the validity is Scientific Revolution. We want “ALL” the scientific evidence and testimony to be presented to a candid audience. As government has denied research – we should examine all scientific evidence available – and – we shouldn’t let the door hit us in the ass doing it. Call for the truth in cannabis i.e. prove to me that it is dangerous – otherwise shut the fuck up – and – call it what it is – “a legal drug.”
BTW These threats were presented to Californians prior to the elections [Prop 19.]. Knocked all the fence riders of the wall with their voter intimidation.
“Claiming that the feds and Obama treat patients like terrorists is a ridiculous thing to write.”
Russ, prove me wrong. It is far from ridiculous if one examines the lives MMJ patients have had to lead.
Is it time for marching on Washington with sticks and rocks yet?
I’ve noticed 2 names being thrown out for the 2012 presidential run: Gary Johnson and Ron Paul. It would be best if they would team up on this, but first someone has to win the republican nomination. If some of us are 4 one and some for the other, there will be a split of support and neither would be likely to prevail. If we are serious about backing a pro mj candidate, then we have to agree on a criteria.
It would seem we need to support the one that most vocally and effectively supports our position, AND commits to an action he can actually accomplish. So…we should support the candidate who publicly promises to reschedule mj to schedule 2…he can say that will allow science and the medical community the opportunity to utilize it for medicinal reasons regardless of the argument for recreational use.
If 70% or more believe it should be allowed for at least the sick, and if the mj support community truly sticks together, how could that candidate not have a good shot. Even if we can get our republican candidate to take the nomination, the democrate nominee would not be able to avoid debating the issue.
Obama showed a lot of hutzpah hunting down and executing Bin Laden.
I wonder if Obama will ever have the courage to end this war directed at his own race, his own people?
Gary Johnson will be at the South Carolina Republican debate tonight which will be televised. WATCH IT!
Research – Studies – Reprts
Whenever prohibs get contrary results from any Report they have commissioned – they can’t accept the truth, and bury the evidence. When you keep doing the same thing over, and over, and over, without results – it’s obsession. We have an “Obsessed Government” – and – the definition of a prohib – “One who is obsessed with denying Genesists our Faith and our Sacrament.” As God is my witness – the first thing I learned was – “Never start a sentence with a – NO. DEMAND RESEARCH! DEMAND SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE! DEMAND THE TRUTH!
I’ve spent some time working in and around grow-ops in northern California and I can say for sure that money is the number one motivation of most of the people I met growing. There are a few idealists here and there who either truly believe in MMJ or the ending of prohibition for one reason or another. There is also a whole group who is against the ending of prohibition for one reason, greed, and I can saw that personally I came across more people who fit in the latter group.
Greed drives these peoples motivations past patient rights, or as I believe something that is a basic human right. These people rely on prohibition to keep people scared of growing, keep the market down. Yet the market is already so flooded with these overgrown gardens (also a product of greed) that its becoming near impossible for even the greedy to make money anymore. People are getting stupid at this point and I’m not saying that government intervention is necessary but something is going to collapse in this ‘industry’ soon and Obama is obviously catching on to the coming collapse.
I told you before you had to come up with a plan to no longer make cannabis illegal, passing that power to the individual states. It could be a rider. Afterward, it will still be illegal in some states. I told you that you had to solicit regional, state and federal legalization proposals. Now, you have to actually get the lawyers to write the legislation for this. Most legislators do not want more work to do, and they simply won’t do what they’re elected to do, with some exceptions to those politicians who have helped out in the past. So far, I hear talk only about full legalization at the state level. A rider that cannabis legalization is as of now a matter for the states. That way, states can cash in, while others just sit back and watch. Maybe they will jump on the band wagen. If you can get Pennsylvania to jump on the band wagen, it means nobody’s afraid of the big bad wolf. Or at least nobody cares.
James @ 46 says: “Joel, if you think Republicans are going to legalize cannabis are sadly mistaken.”
I’m talking about presidential primaries.
If you want viable activism: then get rid of the most hard core narrow minded idiots by making them lose the primaries or else they will be on the November 2012 ballot, and most likely win.
The republican presidential primaries are going to be extremely important because many candidates are running. This gives Gary Johnson and Ron Paul a better chance.
Do you understand what I am saying?
I’m not so sure that discouraging cannabusiness is such a bad thing. Turns out that medical dispensaries, once established, oppose legalization out of self-interest. They even worked towards defeating the legalization initiative in California. They’re traitors. So maybe medical marijuana is just a temporary tactic that should be pushed in order to promote discussion and awareness, but abandoned in the long run, in favor of lifting state sanctions against marijuana in general. If enough states make pot a non-crime, then there will be significant impetus for federal legalization. But medical cannabis is just a dead end, one that the cannabusinesses will work to maintain, even at the cost of tons of people going to jail. I don’t feel sorry for the traitors that work against legalization.
Well! you would’nt want to stop all those $Billions going to big “Pharma” and subsid’s.
check out, Run From the Cure (MUST SEE Documentary), http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw
Only a COWARD would support prohibition.
What’s Wrong With “Our” Piggy-Headed Politicians? Obama?
(Sorry, that might be construed as a rhetorical question.)
The Problems:
The USA economy (okay, World economy) is in a shambles and teetering on the edge of slipping into a real world-wide depression. The USA’s only exports of note are (1) high technology jobs to elsewhere, (2) cultural “art” courtesy of Hollywood (largely unequivocal propaganda) which draws foreign audiences like a train wreck, (3) munitions of war, and (4) synthetic collateralized debt, whose demand in the marketplace has dropped off, not surprisingly.
The Decline of Empire:
The USA’s overseas mercantile colonial empire is rapidly drawing to a close, as it must because there is no way to adequately fund “a hole in the ocean you pour your treasure into” — it’s unsustainable insanity. With the decline in empire will come a decline in the demand for the USA’s munitions of war — it follows as logically and surely as night follows day.
As the number of engineers and scientists graduating from USA universities continues to decline, as it will without meaningful work in this country also declines, the “shine” of USA technological capability will tarnish as well. There are only so many jobs, industries, and technologies left and available to export into “thriving” foreign markets. With peak oil, peak natural resources, and peak population, those “thriving” foreign markets are ephemeral, and cannot last.
The False Hope:
The only “bright spot” in the USA economy is the financial sector, artificially propped up by ridiculously low interest rates which channel all free capital into what is now the investment of last resort — with the Wall Street Mobsters. Investors would find a better regulated gamble and better “house odds” at a Los Vegas casino. “Our” private for-profit Central Bank, the Federal Reserve, has been busy behind the scenes and virtually unregulated, dumping taxpayer-derived “printing press” money into select crony corporations and investment houses on Wall Street. It’s a thoroughly “rigged game”, waiting to give unsuspecting investors their next “haircut” or “shearing”.
A New Stimulus Program:
The USA needs new jobs, and new industries, badly. Channeling the industrial capabilities of the Military Industrial Complex into new green energy and green technology jobs takes time, but it must be done. JFK did that successfully with the NASA Space Program and the “race” to the Moon. It can, and must be done again. The U3 unemployment rate is officially at 8.9%, which is a total fantasy that every politician under-stands. The real unemployment rate is closer to 23%, accounting for the U3 “statistics”, the U6 numbers which include those no longer collecting unemployment insurance, and those who work 1 or more part-time jobs that would prefer full-time employment. Total economic collapse is imminent if this country’s fiscal status quo continues much longer. Slashing the economic and social safety nets established by FDR is not the answer. Beating swords into plowshares, redirecting resources from implements of war and perpetual warfare into public infrastructure and industries that support green technology and post-peak oil is the answer — it creates a sustainable economy and jobs for We the People. That’s the “A” and the “C” of our current economic crisis — what’s missing is the bridge “B” between “A” and “C”.
The Immediate Goal: Finding That Bridge To Sustainable Growth:
There is only one job stimulus program that would work immediately and:
(1) create many 100,000’s more jobs than it would displace,
(2) would spawn many new industries out of thin air,
(3) would be capable of generating 10’s of Billions USD in new tax receipts within a couple of years,
(4) right a long-standing social injustice,
(5) save taxpayer funds through budget reductions instead of job stimulus funding,
(6) would make heroes of the politicians that enable it,
(7) could be legislated, passed, and in force within 30 days, and
(8) would provide the economic stimulus “bridge” to sustainable growth.
The Solution:
That stimulus program is ending the War on Drugs, all drugs, and ending the Prohibition against cannabis and industrial hemp. Re-legalization of all drugs, including especially marijuana — legal like beer and wine, taxed and regulated. There is already one country, Switzerland, that has turned what was incorrectly classified as a criminal problem and turned it into a medical problem, quite successfully. The website , Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, has much of the data and the answers. The rest of the data and answers can be found at http://www.jackherer.com, and http://www.norml.org.
The harassment from U.S. Attorneys will not stop until the prohibition law is off the books.
Obama’s decision will be looked back on by historians in one of two ways:
1. The point at which Americans finally got the courage to demand their inalienable God-given right to freedom of body and began to roll back the intolerable police state.
2. The point at which all hope was lost and America chose a path that would eventually lead to death camps and a genocidal attempt to exterminate all cannabis users.
If we don’t win here, NORML and all other drug reform organization might as well close their doors. Even the hardest of hard-core prohibitionists now recognizes that the country is at the end of its financial ability to imprison any more people and “new approaches” must be taken to solve the “problem.”
Since they can’t afford to cram any more people into their gulags, there are only two possible alternatives: full legalization or death camps. If they can’t incarcerate us all, the next logical step is to just gas us all. It’s what the drug warriors have really wanted all along: the “final solution” to the “drug problem.”
The drug warriors hate us and they want us to suffer, end of story. They will never be willing to negotiate with us; they see us the same way Nazis saw Jews. Good-faith attempts to talk, reason and legislate our way to freedom haven’t gotten us far, and we’re now losing all the progress that was made. We were fools to think we could trust Obama to keep his promise of not interfering with state mmj laws.
We were suckered and it won’t happen again. These people are indescribably cruel and petty, lacking even the basics of normal moral functioning. They will never, EVER stop trying to cause us harm until we are all dead.
The time has come for MASS protests on a scale not seen since the ’60’s. The only thing left to do is park ourselves on the steps of the capitol and refuse to leave until our demand for the immediate, full-scale, national legalization of cannabis is heeded unconditionally.
So sick of talk; please either set us free NOW or just go on and warm up the ovens.
[Editor’s note: Ovens? Death camps? Can you be more hyperbolic and over-the-top in your rhetoric?]
My heart feels like lead as I say that I have to agree with Turtle and Igor. Our ‘industry’ is cannabalizing itself. We’re all patients, yet the dispensaries are trying and succeeding in freezing out the patient providers even while allopathic medicine, 21 years after the discovery of the endo-cannabinoid system, continue to turn a blind eye to its benefits. And yes, there are a whole lot of poorly-motivated jerks growing. There are also a bunch of great folks growing certified medicine who can’t find a legal home for it because the dispensaries prefer to continually tell us to either call or ‘come back’ in a week or two.
It’s beginning to look like we’re as savagely hypocritical as ‘they’ are. Stop, breathe and take a hit. Repeat. How about if we ask cannabis how to best proceed from here?
Obama is a massive hypocrite. I didn’t vote for him last time, and won’t next time either. Most of his policies are as bad or worse than that moron George Bush. Let’s see, he renewed the Patriot Act, increased Federal governments power, allows the un-Constitutional prohibition policy that has been proven to be a complete failure on every level by every possible measure, and continues to allow the prosecution of law abiding citizens who choose to use cannabis, a substance scientifically proven to be safer than alcohol, tobacco, or even caffeine.
Obama, the hypocritical jackass, claimed his administrations policies would be based on “scientific facts, not religious beliefs or political ideologies.” He’s a blatant liar, as bad as Clinton and both Bush’s. Screw him, I’ll do what my state (and 14 other states) allows me to do. They’ll have to kill me to stop me, that’s the only way it’s going to happen. In the mean time, I and millions of other cannabis activists will continue to fight against the fear and propaganda campaign orchestrated by the Obama administration. On a side note, with bin Laden dead, Obama now has an obligation to END THE WARS and get our troops back home. With tornadoes, floods, and all that’s going on in the USA right now, we need our troops here, not in a desert half way around the globe. CannabisTV.org
Obama’s adminastation needs the war against marijuana.They need the cartels, no matter what the the cost to the people of mexico. They severaly damaged the mexican economy with NAFTA. Now there is significant amout of investments, people,equipment,helicopters etc.. By legalizing marijuana their budgets would disapear, a lot of poeple would lose their jobs. By raiding states whose voters have marijuana laws of their own, they then force you to go to the black market, usualy supplied by the cartels, Thus completeing the circle. Now no matter what your poseition on the law, the goverment now can consider anybody a potental criminal.You can be detained,scanned even searched because of probabal caue.
This is all about Sativex. The law has been changed partly because Marinol is going generic, and they have now changed the wording to include whole plant based products. It is controlled by Bayer in some countries, but something else here and Canada. They clone the plant to assure control and uniformity. It’s a spray you spray in your mouth. Legal in Canada, UK, Germany, and has been in trials in US since 2006 or so. This will be a prescription product. It will be prescribed by doctors and bought in pharmacies. There will be no generic for years. On the bright side insurance will have to pay for it. On the down side it will be expensive. That is what’s behind the whole argument by FDA that they can’t approve a smoked medicine, though they know the plant can be vaporized or eaten. Sativex has been well tolerated by patients, even when compared to narcotics, which patients were able to continue during the studies. Sounds to me like it is about to be approved by the FDA and there will be no need for medical marijuana. No more problem for the gov. On the other hand, it proves the plant used as a whole is safe and effective. But you know how it goes. Big pharma is going to win. In the process they get rid of any need for medical marijuana, anyone but the company growing it, so everybody else goes to jail. Lot’s easier for the police. If you have a prescription for a little green bottle of Sativex, you are good to go.If you have the plant, you are under arrest. Wait and see. I hope I’m wrong, but that is how they solved the problem in the UK, and probably how they will solve it here. look it up. Geez, at this point I don’t care. I just want to be out of pain, for the sick to be able to eat, and the people going blind to be able to see. Now, if they will just make the oil for cancer. I’m tired of waiting. Just freaking make it available here already. This would be nationwide. Still stupid, because people could easily grow their own cheaply if it were legal. But then who gets rich that way? *sigh* I don’t care anymore. Just give sick people the freaking medicine.
US trials
UK trials
Next Sunday May 8, 2011, Mexican citizens will march to demand the end to the “War on Drugs” and the removal of all government officials responsible for more than 35,000 deaths and the increase of insecurity and corruption.
Oscar Mondragón (@Omondra) calls on those that are not able to attend the protests to put a white flag outside their house or car and wear white clothes in solidarity with the national protest.
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/05/05/mexico-prepares-for-massive-national-protest-on-may-8/
Why does Obama keep LYING to the American People, Making promises he does not keep?
What is he Scared Of?
Can’t wait to Vote him out of office!
Legalize IT!
Tax IT!
Cure sick People with IT!
Create Jobs with IT!
Make Bio-Fuel’s with IT!
Save DeForestation with IT!
Go Green!
Oh We’re Not Gonna Take It
no, We Ain’t Gonna Take It
oh We’re Not Gonna Take It Anymore
we’ve Got The Right To Choose And
there Ain’t No Way We’ll Lose It
this Is Our Life, This Is Our Song
we’ll Fight The Powers That Be Just
don’t Pick Our Destiny ’cause
you Don’t Know Us, You Don’t Belong
oh We’re Not Gonna Take It
no, We Ain’t Gonna Take It
oh We’re Not Gonna Take It Anymore
oh You’re So Condescending
your Gall Is Never Ending
we Don’t Want Nothin’, Not A Thing From You
your Life Is Trite And Jaded
boring And Confiscated
if That’s Your Best, Your Best Won’t Do
oh…………………
oh…………………
we’re Right/yeah
we’re Free/yeah
we’ll Fight/yeah
you’ll See/yeah
oh We’re Not Gonna Take It
no, We Ain’t Gonna Take It
oh We’re Not Gonna Take It Anymore
oh We’re Not Gonna Take It
no, We Ain’t Gonna Take It
oh We’re Not Gonna Take It Anymore
no Way!
oh…………………
oh…………………
we’re Right/yeah
we’re Free/yeah
we’ll Fight/yeah
you’ll See/yeah
we’re Not Gonna Take It
no, We Ain’t Gonna Take It
we’re Not Gonna Take It Anymore
we’re Not Gonna Take It, No!
no, We Ain’t Gonna Take It
we’re Not Gonna Take It Anymore
just You Try And Make Us
we’re Not Gonna Take It
come On
no, We Ain’t Gonna Take It
you’re All Worthless And Weak
we’re Not Gonna Take It Anymore
now Drop And Give Me Twenty
we’re Not Gonna Take It
oh Crinch Pin
no, We Ain’t Gonna Take It
oh You And Your Uniform
we’re Not Gonna Take It Anymore
The use of cannabis doesn’t concern the non using population and putting it in ballots is out of logic… We are in the 21 st century and the rights of the man cannot be decided at will but others who have no idea or are not concerned personally… Such a hidden fashism..
I was very touched by the earhtquake-like message of mr Chris number 13.. He is so right.. You didnt raise me.. mind your business and let me live.. I dont belong to you. How come that uncle Jack or Tom and anty Mary or Dora from around the corner neibors will decide with a …vote !! if I will be cured naturally or in the hands of the big Pharma.. What do they know ?? Do I decide for instance if they should drink coffee ?? Do I judge them for that habit and ask the police to get them to jail because I dont like this speedy juice and I concider that kids shouldnt drink?? actually this is my oppinion but I do not impose it to the others… How stupid punk I would look if I imposed it… How come they interfeer in my life ??
And by the way remember they say : I was sad that I had no shoes until I met someone without legs.. Remember : you have not full freedom but us here in Ellas (Greece) we have nothing but only extream poisoned grass from the Balkans…!! as if they hate us the forbid with horror laws anything local and pure and the market if full with extreamly poisoned grass.. If you smoke you cough all night to die.. If you buy it you have it there but if you smoke it you are not high but you nearly die !!!! and they all know that, our streets are full of junkies that die with balkan heroin .. (the same mafia that kills the people with the dirty heroin is playing with the dirty grass too.. Its normal as the two are concidered ..drugs !!! ).. So many people smoke and they all poisonne themselves right now.. I know that and that makes me crazy to see my compatriots destroy so sevearly their health under these politicians that will not care.. So guys there is worse and for me their is worse too.. In Malaysia for instance they kill for some grass.. Who will sreem fror these criminals ???? what about the malaysian people ??
Less than 1% of marijuana consumers get involved with the reform of the laws? That kinda says it all kids. With all the positives about cannabis/hemp known and less than 1% batting in your corner, how can we win? No real positive change for cannabis till more folks get off the couch and bark up a song here.
“A Very Sad American” ; you are NOT over the top. I think you bring up a good point. Americans still can’t imagine such a police state – they refuse to believe it could happen here.
As for only 1% of cannabis users getting involved with reform, that’s not surprising, but it is OUTRAGEOUS.
I used to be one of those 1% until I got busted, when I realized that up until that point I was nothing more than a hypocrite. I wanted my weed, I wanted it legal, but I wouldn’t get off my ass to do anything about it.
GET OFF YOUR ASSES, HYPOCRITES!!!!
JUST FOR A BRIEF MOMENT
Forget about cannabis – put it completely out of your mind – like it doesn’t exist – it’s not even a figment of your imagination.
Now! What is the federalists doing?
They are “intentionally,” with malice of forethought, violating our Constitution – plain and simple! They are breaking [thrashing] the laws they are sworn to uphold. They are taking a dump on We the People with a great deal of pleasure – and – the more we squirm the more pleasure they receive. The question is this: Do we want freedom – or – do we want what prohibs pleasingly give us – NOTHING! – or – if any – a hind tit, and a sack of shit? It’s all about freedom. They have a Patriot Act – so! – “let’s be Patriots!” As Louie from the Clark/Nevada Colony says – “Trow dem bums out!”
You can’t imagine how mad I am. I have defended that lier so many times, and it aint easy in a small Texas town. I am 53 and thought by now it would be legal. I’m so full of HATE I don’t even know myself. Maybe we do need a revolution. I’m at wits ends. Somebody better run against him in the primarys. I’ll never vote republican but I just might not vote for the first time in my life. It just feels hopeless and being disabled I was thinking of moving to a med pot state. Now what? What can we do about it?
I just now sent a msg to the Democratic party that i will not vote down the dem ticket as i have for the last 30 years. I am sick of these idiots driving voters away over stupidity! We need a tool here that gives us a way to see how some of these issues are being voted on?? I feel there are enough of us IF we had lists of how OUR state legislators voted and responded to them in our own emails … we could turn this around quickly with that tool! We stand United, We stand Strong!
Voting time will be here soon. Its time to start talking to everybody about ending prohibition. On voting day if their are empty seats in your car, fill them. Take or drag as many people you can to the voting station. If you really want change take at least one other person with you. Make this someone who probably wouldn’t go. Help a handicaped person get there easier. The more the marrier. Numbers are how things get changed. Yes I Cannabis ! Yes We Cnnabis !!
It’s so simple. Here’s how.
1st: you get the citizens united.
2nd: we demand this simple definition of marijuana,
which actually shows respect for our Constitution.
16. The term ‘marijuana’ means all parts
of the smoke produced by the combustion
of the plant Cannabis sativa L.
The Mexicans will fill The streets, Americans should learn how to vote.
Free Cannabis
Here in the USA
I wonder about my only soul
I wonder
I wonder
When I hear that knock on my door, and the secret police enter my world,
yes..alot can change in two years.. namely 63 house seats that have gone to conservative repugnicans..who are in a position to hold the budget and the economy hostage if o’bumble doesnt agree to some painful political concessions such as medical marijuana…
for example..the house repugs could refuse to raise the debt limit unless o’bumble agrees to go after the medical marijuana industry…and o’bumble simply does not consider medical marijuana to be worth that price…indeed..the consequences of not raising the debt limit include a hard-right administration being elected in 2012..since o’bumble would necessarily be blamed…
I wonder why no threatening letters are being sent to California? Maybe because Obama desperately needs this state in 2012? I no longer care if this Administration is more lax on Medical Cannabis, they have crossed the line. If they are going to continue to stifle any legitimate business ventures that would help sick and dying patients access Medical Cannabis LEGALLY, then they only way to make them listen is at the polls. They are clearly giving into special interests where it is still easy to do so (NOT California). If we continue to allow them to do this, nothing will ever change. I urge every one to send out an E-mail (or two) and LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD. If they don’t want to listen, fine…let us all speak VOLUMES at the polls.
In a split moment I see President Obamas face and I wonder what has hell and eternity wrought in my only mind and soul
On This Day
May It be described in the Scriptures of Planet Earth
Free Human Beings Demand Justice
I am not going to go through all the reasons to decriminilize or legilize. I have already read them many times. Here and before here. It has been said. It`s been told, time and time again.
If Obama backs off of what he said, OUT the door dude. Say one thing one day and just the oppisite the next day. Not in my book!
I have epilepsy. It would be nice to know I wasn`t Going to have a seizure.
genesis 29 30 read it.i have multiple sclorosis and its live by mans law and die or live by gods law and live.so why should we worry about u.s.debt and jobs, when our president sends our money in foreign lands to help rebuild.he will not get my vote as he did not in the beginning.i promise not to inhale.i will buy a vaporizor.if it was his family or the rest of the goverment dont you think things would be different? not dying if i can help it.it helps with pain appetite anxiety .thought when i received disability i could get something to help that was natural;come together lets mAke this work.supposed to be our country the one we die for thats trying to kill us.4
I have lost hope. If someone like obama turns their back on this issue, that means no President will ever stop prohibition.
They are all rotten bastards. Obama, all of them. This will always be a police state.
“I’ll never vote republican but I just might not vote for the first time in my life. It just feels hopeless and being disabled I was thinking of moving to a med pot state. Now what? What can we do about it?”
Hey friend, if you can do it move to a medical pot state. All this rhetoric is not going to stop a movement; legal marijuana is getting bigger everyday and prohibition is losing devils. So it is important that marijuana people vote with their feet and pocketbooks. Economic can bring down prohibition!
Remember when NORML use to stand for something ?
1) For Legalization
2) For Freedom
3) For Right to self govern
4) For the constitution
Remember NORML before the caved into this DEAD END Medical Marijuana movement.
Moderator: post this you most likely wont, but I say the above words with fondness and sadness. I truly hope you return one day to the NORML I once new. The NORML I can trust.
[Editor’s note: Um….you must be an idiot to believe that NORML is not a LEGALIZATION organization…you must have NORML confused with ASA or the NCIA–who, unlike NORML, only support patient access. NORML has supported legalization, decriminalization, medicalization and industrial hemp for 40 years.]
This is so simple….Obama has set himself up to be the PRIME EXAMPLE of what happens when you LIE to get the vote of the YOUTH to carry you into office…it was young people who put him in, and it will be young people who MAKE DAMN SURE he is a one term president…and the same should go for the rest of the chickenshit politicians who crap their pants when they get a “handwritten letter” from a Us ADA….if they dont have the BALLS to FIRST AND FOREMOST protect the soveriegnty of their own STATE, then how the hell are they supposed to be able to represent the people OF THAT STATE before the rest of the (so called) Union?
Lets just pretend that marijuana is cotton, and we’re ALL SLAVES this time…then we can have a civil war that starts off on the right foot, instead of the anarchy thats coming….
This guy lied his way into office; like the rest of them I should add. Who’s really surprised? Marijuana is gaining a lot of support now a days, especially when it comes down to medical marijuana. The criminals are getting scared and the CIA doesn’t want to lose their top market. Demand more transparency in government and then everyones life will be a hell of a lot better!
He has to look real HARD on cannabis. This is to be expect with any one in the whit house. If the numbers where on our side then he wold be pro
Remember me? the guy with crazy conspiracy theories who saw this coming? lol
64. A Very Sad American says:
We were “suckered” – and – “it won’t happen again.” These people are indescribably cruel and petty, lacking even the basics of normal moral functioning. They will never, EVER stop trying to cause us harm until we are all dead.
The time has come for MASS protests – on a scale not seen since the ’60’s. The only thing left to do is park ourselves on the steps of the capitol and refuse to leave until our demand for the immediate, full-scale, national legalization of cannabis is heeded unconditionally.
So sick of talk; please either set us free NOW or just go on and warm up the ovens.
[Editor’s note: Ovens? Death camps? Can you be more hyperbolic and over-the-top in your rhetoric?]
Paul Armentano:
I can – if my sad American brother can’t. It’s a whole lot more than the issue of cannabis. Cannabis is a puny issue compared to what’s coming down the pike. BTW the conclusion will be a “global pandemic.” They already have “Residences” set up for those who resist.
Call me crazy Paul – but – my sad American brother is right. We should “GATHER” – but – we should call for and mandate scientific conclusion. The truth is in the science, and they know it!
PETITION MANDAMUS FOR SCIENTIFIC CONCLUSION.
We the People mandate and demand that the scientific evidence, from “all” sources of science, and by its testimonies, be presented to a candid, uncensored, audience for its consideration. “Lay every shred of scientific research on the table, see what’s in it, and make a decision – one way or the other – “Shit or get off the pot.”
DEMAND SCIENTIFIC CONCLUSION.
The truth “will be found in the science,” and the justice will be found in our Faith. Prohibitionists will be tried in the Court of Public Opinion, and shall wear their shame on the bosom of their souls.
“He has to look real HARD on cannabis. This is to be expect with any one in the whit house. If the numbers where on our side then he wold be pro”
Hey brother, the numbers are on our side. Unfortunately, the people don’t matter in this country. What matters are mega Banks, Wall Street, and the global elite. Cannabis unfortunately gets caught up in the huge Military Industrial Complex, that was created and maintained by the global elite, with the prison, law enforcement, legal, and judicial economic powerhouse. To put it another way, the government is not going to ‘fire’ a judge, or a police officer or even a public defendant so that some nobody can buy pot legally. There is way too much money at stake in the Prison Industrial Complex to legalize pot.
This is what Obama is defending. The government knows that if they continue to allow (first class retail locations) pot shops, with brownies, sodas, and candy, to continue that likely this trend will get larger… eventually leading to full scale legal cannabis.
We are the “Civilization of 2012” – in the prophecy.
We are the total culture of a particular people. We are a “Society” – a group of faithful persons regarded as constituting a community of related independent individuals. We are a “Culture” – we hold dear such ideals, customs, etc. of a particular people or group of a particular people. We are “Fraternity” – we embrace the state or quality of being brothers and sisters.
You may see us as an “ugly, misplaced, tattoo with ornaments, and a mentality to mach.” You may see us as the minister of your faith, or the doctor that just wrote you your prescription for cannabis. Hell! You may see us as the cop writing us the pot ticket, or the Judge that will hear your case. You may see us as the teacher – teaching our children. The fact of the matter is – “We are a society.” We are a total culture of a particular people. We are a Faith. We claim religious use – and – demand religious freedom.
Genesists intend to be a vital force in this changing world. Fueled by our awareness in the Faith – we will only be a witness to our own rebirth or death – but – we will do it as a family of believers acting as one continually.
I wish to Thank NORML for keeping this portal open
Thanks to the Brave Posters
It is darkest before The Dawn
Where do you stand on This Day , do you Wonder about food, wealth, your children,
Do you wonder, in the morning, in some dream, where you and I are going, if you wonder, this is good, this is a sign that you question your place.
OK . If “m word” was given money to receive so called
“money grant” to purchase variety grown medicinal pot
and the dangerous drug clause was by name only as the
“m word” name was noted during the Reagan Presidency~
as the ‘dangerous drug’ requiring top priority to the
enforcement of “loco manna” War on Drugs Schedule I :
enforcement to begin eradicating underage use of then
problemed recall on dangerous element to society with
regard to the name given to cannabis .,. are the new~
drug laws set to Obama Admin given accord to requited
forum as President Obama declared State Laws requited
and you say the forum office of Attorney General with
regard to the Name Given to Cannabis want to deny the
future dispensed role of cannabis “m word” medicinal~
so the future regard of the dispense commentary money
basis will prevent widespread use of pot with monies~
granted as if Obama changed his mind on medicinal pot
and did you notice the Republican Debate will not now
be ready to discuss “m word” without paying the money
to begin consideration not about who will be legal uh
though who will be accorded to pay the “m word” money
to begin funding Republican so called “money grant” .
I was watching the History Channel [a TV station] and
it seems like the “Ma ri jua na” program will “m word”
“m word” “m word” ~ pause for money grant ~ smiling uh
greedy reporter , “m word” “m word” maybe the optioned
comment ‘cannabis’ or occasionally saying “pot” seems
like a way to make money and denounce cannabis began a
reason we have continued banning anyway ,. it shows the
power of monetary gain only care about the money making
it a power of selfish gain and not interest about the
forum on legally smoked cannabis . Did actual regard ,
President Obama himself say he would want to change a
comment he made about State Rights and Ethic and want
to disallow continued medical states and now disallow
“m word” at the Area Outside California and West Coast
and if it appeared to be his statement , was it his ~$
own ideal to stop continued newer distribution medical
cannabis new form on thought to begin Green Cross [2]~
West Coast Primary to Allow TriCameral Cannabis MANA.|.
[[Other ways , was it his speech or statement to begin
BiPartisan Debate without greed based Republic money]].
I am not a supporter of “m word” money and greed grant
forum to support purchase of high price “m word” . . .
though I very much support actual legal cannabis manna
and if you want less greed and more respect non~profit
try bringing the price down and referring to it as the
natural botanical name , not greed~money “m word” +$$,
rather cannabis manna “pot” legally smoked ., Bryan 🙂
Elect Ron Paul and the drug war will end (as though the ptb will select him in the electoral college).
Since Medical MariJuana cooperatives and dispensaries are raided by the DEA on a daily basis, and even foreign cannabis seed vendors, such as Canadian Marc Emory, are persecuted, prosecuted, and imprisoned in the USA, does the DEA intend that all Medical MariJuana patients obtain their medicine from the very same violent Mexican drug cartels that the DEA makes such a big deal about waging their Drug War against?
That would appear to be the case.
Another remarkable recent revelation is the existence of a BATF operation, now over a year old, of illicitly transporting firearms across the USA border into Mexico and delivered into the hands of the Mexican drug cartels. This operation only came to light after one of those firearms was used to kill a USA diplomatic envoy in Mexico, presumably at the hands of the cartels and not agents of the BATF itself.
Similar irony can be found in Afghanistan, where the DEA eradicates some fields of poppies and marijuana, all while the US Marines protect other poppy and marijuana plantations from destruction by the Taliban (and the DEA), and the CIA facilitates the transportation of these illicit products to foreign markets.
Shades of cocaine and Iran-Contra.
The battle is apparently not over the existence of illicit drugs, but over who controls the production, marketing, distribution, and derived profits — reminiscent of Britain’s East India Trading Company and the British government’s Opium Wars against China.
Another prime example of government corruption, malfeasance, and intercession in free markets to favor crony special interests, not unlike what happened under Alcohol Prohibition in the 1920’s?
It’s déjà vu, all over again!
And no State dares to contemplate actual marijuana re-legalization — that will now draw the full power and fury of the Federal government, including the DEA, Departments of Injustice and Security of der Fatherland, and even the IRS, under the threat of prosecuting State employees and legislators along-side those “you’re not with us, so you must be terrorists” dope-smoking peace-loving hippies.
As Right Wing Authoritarians devolve into Fascists, the Rule of Law also devolves from a being cornerstone of democracy into that jack-boot on the throat of citizens — merely another unequally-applied weapon in the arsenal of the tyrannical national security surveillance police state.
For the DEA, smoked marijuana is a dangerous, highly addictive narcotic drug that is prone to abuse, and holding “no medical value”, even though it is not a narcotic, is not any more addictive than coffee or chocolate, has an LD-50 (Lethal Dose to 50% of Population) far safer — thousands of times safer — than aspirin, and all medical research regarding medical marijuana is restricted and controlled, by the DEA itself. In fact, there has never been a recorded death directly related to an overdose of marijuana, in over 5,000 years of its recorded history of use.
“Marijuana is not a drug, it’s a plant.”
– Governor Arnold Schwartzenegger
Is the DEA guilty of being self-serving? You bet it is! Since even before Prohibition 2.0 began in 1937, there have been studies which refuted Harry Anslinger’s “Reefer Madness” spew of prohibitionist propaganda. Marijuana has been found to be a socially and medically “harmless substance” by three separate government-sponsored scientific investigations (Siler, Panama Canal Zone, 1933; La Guardia, New York City, 1944; Shafer, Federal, 1972), each of which recommended de-criminalization of marijuana (cannabis). The Federal government routinely ignores fair and balanced scientific studies regarding cannabis, but only when they draw conclusions unacceptable to their preconceived justifications for marijuana prohibition.
The DEA has just recently modified the classification of marijuana from Schedule 1 to Schedule 2, but only for extracts of cannabis in patent prescribed medications from Big Pharma — all other uses including State’s Medical MariJuana programs still fall under Schedule 1, deemed as having “no medical value”. This twisted-as-a-pretzel logic justifies the continuation of the War on Drugs against marijuana, thus upholding the DEA’s draconian police state powers to ride rough-shod over 15+ State’s Medical MariJuana programs, all while “green-lighting” crony corporate special interests (Big Pharma) to again become economically active in cannabis / marijuana patent medicines after 70+ years of Prohibition 2.0, as government approved monopolies. These actions are a perfect example of blatant unapologetic Fascism.
States’ Rights? No such thing any more.
Constitution? That’s been shredded.
Bill of Rights? You’re kidding, of course.
Rule of Law? Golden Rule – those with the gold make the rules.
Ballot Box? Votes don’t count — vote counters count.
It should have become apparent to every thinking citizen of the USA that We no longer live in a Constitutional Republic under the Rule of Law, but instead under the jack-boot of a tyrannical police state. If patriots can no longer count upon the primacy of the USA Constitution and Bill of Rights, there are older relevant documents upon which we might rely — the Declaration of Independence and the Articles of Confederation. As I recall, the Declaration of Independence urged citizens to throw off the yoke of tyranny and form a new system of government …
We the People can throw out of office all of our Right Wing Authoritarian politicians from both mainstream political parties while We can , or We can wait until that option is no longer available to us and We are forced to use somewhat older methods of direct action. I prefer the former …
114. David 762
I enjoyed your post – because – it’s the truth. I got a great chuckle out of your description – “Pretzel Logic.” It was my understanding that natural THC extract was to be reclassified as a schedule III substance. Schedule II only offers “limited” use and research. Scientific Conclusion holds the truth and the answer. Scientific Revolution! I will vote for those who call for Scientific Conclusion – and – that’s the question that should be put to all reps – “Will you vote for Scientific Conclusion?”
To support prohibition by Obama is really sad to say at the least. Does he not know of this man or what he stood for, what he was? This man was a racists and hatred is what drove him. He invented prohibition . This man planted his own seed in society and even though he has passed his seed still grows. As a president , Obama you should have known this before saying a word as president. A wise man you are not. Obama , you have been patted on the back by a hand with a knife in it. Thanks you political sucker! The funny part is there’s still time , which way will you go? Will you do what is right and be wise or not?
It is very unfortunate that the Medical Cannabis Community has been shafted by our President and our Government. They only understand votes and I think it is insane for our President to think that he has a snow flakes chance in Hell of winning this election without The Medical Cannabis Community’s help. Mr. President can you spell Landslide Loss for Obama? When you lose your election I will celebrate for the thousands that are in Prison and can’t celebrate my way. What are the two words that normally come before the word Lawyer. Throw out Ambulance Chasing….
oh yeah .. Scum Sucking……Thats it!!!!!
”To twist or stay twisted?” that is the question. I say twist one and take a break,take a breath and reset our minds. There’s too much detail. We all know the problems. It’s a solution we are looking for, right ?
I agree the voting system was affected by vote counted
by those who effected the mid-term elections as the US
House received majority Republican without wondering ~
if the vote count was promoted by granted commentary to
say the counted allotment would be denied fair counting
as the equal rights of Democracy voters were subjected
to problem and propaganda noted on CNN as continued uh
slur against democratic program known as equal voting .
Did the voting counted require fair and equal accord ,.
and will the legislative system be proper to begin the
new people’s vote with cannabis in mind , or will it ~
be a controlled vote with count of actual ballot left
to secret electoral .,. it seems the Republican thought
on propaganda was more a setting about controlled vote
and the full ballot box will be known to actual proper
electoral and not the percentage given by Fake Exec to
support the money basis Republic[en] legis numerate ~$
as counting each vote will be democratic and fake exec
controlling both the voter and the count will be faked
Democracy with Republic[en] percentage advantage known
as faking the vote . . . so I recommend alternative to
the legislative power of State and National Government
and more toward a positive vote system rather thn the
bipartisan percentage gain by false report “argemente”
or the money Obama wanted to secure as not counterfeit
so we would have a continued Treasury based economy @
New Gains with the Stock Exchange , Proper Accord with
Benign Powers of Government , Actual Monetary Stability
as he promised at his beginning [1st] Administration n
other thn embezzlement of the National Deficit by the
Powers of Foreign Effect Republic[en] Counterfeiting ,
he [Obama] seems the best so far at denying the false
government from their propaganda and accomplishing the
economic stability to deny false economy with what the
Presidents at recent history put up with was economic
review before Republican debate of the timed setting ~
stealing the voting money and beginning force voting #
propaganda to deny Democracy , rather try continue at
warlike advance of Mil and Powers money which with the
case uh nuclear munitions , we as the people United ::
States and National Accord may not allow nuclear muni-
tion based blame on the setup of wartime embezzle so ,
what better actual choice will we see to begin proper
Manna and Men to begin New Age Peace and Pot .|. Bryan
If every individual reading this post – right this very minute – could convince just “one” other person to favor medicinal cannabis – that would be personally gratifying and an accomplishment. The only true way to convince that “one” other person is by scientific proof. That way – that “one” other person can tell their “one” other person the truth with confidence in scientific conclusion. The truth will be found in the science, and also the lies will be found there. It’s the lie that defeat itself – and – exposes the liar.
DEMAND SCIENTIFIC CONCLUSION
I Woud never date any of the listed above. and they may have trouble finding a Love unless they pick em up at a illegal boxing ring where, like in the movies, the fights end in deap sea diving to fires below.
On a serious note.Why…Why…WHy.?Look at the facts .”Be true to yourself” Its all about the “Roots of life”The Healthy choice.What we eat and drink clearly affects how our bodies feel and work.Lets live and smile like we should on this earth.The Positive energy and The gods of the green.Bless the world and protect Us all from evil.
Obooboo was the one who said that it was hands off for states that legalized medicinal marijuana but apparently the DEA and other fed agency’s feel they do not have to follow the orders of their over all boss which is Obooboo and now he is going back on everything he did say pertaining to states that legalized medicinal marijuana.Oh well,he is on the way out and he knows he isnt ging to ever get back in again so he doesn’t care what he says at this point.More and more states are legalizing medicinal marijuana and the feds cannot fight every single stae in the country,to even think they can is a joke especially on their ened.If every state in the country just bucked up against them all then they would have no other choice but to quit the harrasment and the congress and senate would have no other choice but to mandate it legal for every state in the country,there is power in numbers.What really gets to me is that so many country’s have legalized marijuana for adult use with many more following suit.Their all doing it because they see the enormouse potential so far as the tax revenuse which will pretty mcuh take care of just about all of their financial owes,they also see the very significant drops in drug related rimes as well as the very significant drops in the numbers of teens using it.They all know from all of the research and study’s done over the decades that marujuana is for all practical purposes pretty much harmless to the users,they also see that the users will not end up with any life threatening deseases from using it unlike those that use all tobaco and al alchol products which are the nuber one killers in the world and especially in this country.They see the massive saving every year from no loner wasting mega billions trying to stop that which cannot be stoped and how those mega billions can be used for more important things in their country’s.It’s time our country followed all of these other country’s and made it legal for adult use and to shed themselves of the 1930’s mindset.Our country and people are really no diferent than all of these other country’s that have and are legalizing marijuana for adult use and we would also see the same positive rsults that all of these other country’s have and are seeing from legalizing it.It’s time for this country to get out of the darke ages and to step into the 21st century and make marijuana legal for adult use the same a alcahol and tobaco are.The only thing that will be diferent is that the tax rvenuse will outdo those of all tobaco and alcahol products every year and that people will not be dying and sufering from deseases from using it.They will also see a very large amount of the populous drop alcahol use and switch over to marijuana instead.It has no bad after effects such as hangovers etc,is not physically addictive but rather only metnally addictive.Does nor interfere with ones ability to work but actually hightens ones sneses making them much more aware of their surroundings and tunes them into what thir doing as far as work rlated subjects.To say it is a gateway drug to other harmfull drug use is a joke.If ther was no marijuana at all people would still be trying and using the bad drugs anyways,so to me that shoots the gateway thing right into the garbage can.I know many people who have used marijuana for decades and have never gone onto using the more harmful drugs>Sure they ahve tryed may of them but then who really han’t at one time or another and every single one of them di not like the feelings and after effects of those bad drugs so they etayed with marijuana.I think if it is legaized that there will be a very large drop in the numbers of peole who use heroin,meth,cocaine and precription pain pils especially.It’s medicinal property’s are and have been proven here and all around the worldin research and study’s done for decades now second to none for treating so very many ilnesses from cancer,to pain to many mental probelms as well.It is without a doubt one of the most intelligent and logical things our country can do at this point in time
C,mon folks we need to clear this up. Obama is a liar. Look at the people he keeps around him. Who does he listen to, get advice from? This is the truth about the man. As I grew up, I was taught a phrase that I think is very appropriate for this situation. “Your actions speak so loud, I can’t hear a thing you say.” This is a REAL war. Their goal is to persicute and prosecute YOU and YOUR FAMILY and YOUR FRIENDS. At this time they WILL start to raid business’s and homes of patients. If they continue to do small raids. They will be able to get their media time and lots of back patting and that a boys to go around. All while terrorizing you at little cost to them, keeping the truly absurd cost of this WAR out the public eye. It’s also obvious we are locked out of typical media outlets to show our side, CBS’s refusal of NORM’l’s ad. Now is the time for all of us to decide are we going to fight the federal terrorist’s are become prisoners of war of our OWN federal government. I refuse to believe this is what Thomas Jefferson wanted. If you agree, now is the time. Get out their, talk with people about marijuana. This is almost like coming out of the closet for a lot us.It’s ok to be nervous, we’ve been persecuted for so long, we have had to live in the shadows like common thieves. Now is the time to say out loud I smoke or whatever, marijuana and I like it and I’m proud to say it. Talk about it. Wear something to show your pride. Put a sign in your car window. Let your imagination go. Keep it real, keep it cool and have a blast and please no Bozos. Force the Feds hand. Make them spend lots of money that they will have to start to justify in this economy. Don’t let them get away with their game. This is weird, but if we can force them to prosecute all at once. They can’t win. The man hours and their budgets would be overwhelmed like a tsunami. If they continue with bulling and terrorizing in small amounts they will continue to win. If their going to make threats then lets call their bluff. Our backs are literally against the wall. Are you gone to stand their or push back? Personally I’m not going to take it any more. I believe with constant and persistent pressure from us they will have to fold. To all you soldiers in the Green army out their. I’m proud to be fighting next to you in their war. One last thought please. Abraham Lincoln understood the importance of a united federal government for our country to survive. I wonder how he would consider the over extended power and abuse of the general public by the very federal government he hoped to preserve. Love to all from The Goofy Guy.
124. Hey Goofy Guy
1. Demand/mandate Scientific and Religious Conclusion.
2. Make prohibs totally aware that we are not only watching their every move under a microscope – but – we are documenting each and every abuse as well. Let them know we no longer believe that they have or deserve Qualified Immunity.
3. Register to vote – and – VOTE!
4. If you believe in God and God’s Sacrament – and – you get busted – make absolutely sure that you advise everyone concerned that your use is “Religious Use” – and – shut up until you see your attorney. “Name, rank, and serial number only.”
5. If you haven’t already done so [military] raise your right hand and swear an oath of allegiance – to protect our country/Constitution against all enemies – foreign and domestic – emphasis on domestic.
6. Be aware that the killer robots have weapons – and – they will use them on us, and our pets.
Hello . Medicinal “m word” is a West Coast idea .
It’s known as Green Cross .,. medicinal viability
to begin physical ailment and disability to again
dispense “m word” as helping medical promotion uh
the cannabis plant and buds to treat physical and
debilitating condition as proscribed by medicinal
law on the topic , medical cannabis treatment the
West Coast knows as Green Cross physical viability .
There were a total uh 5 states wanting new medpot
this year and two have been denied so far . The :
Midwest States Kansas and Missouri both reached a
ruling before repeal office “ignored” medbud with
the reasoning , Midwest States may enjoy the newer
legally smoked venue on premise recreation will be
better afforded at what is known as the TriCameral
Union showing United States cannabis policy will be
divided into 3 regions : known as West Coast Green
Cross , Midwest Green Smoke [known to some as the
Midwest “Kingdom” Requite to begin Cannabis Value
at center caucus accord on remind Capital Values] ,
and East Coast TriCam known as Green Leaf , there
will also be planned at England : Englnd Refurb n
Proper Accord with Prince William , Cannaba Educate .
There are others , such as Manna Smoke and the OK[+]
Jamaican Promise known by the name : Ganja Smoke . .
These are all future forecast planned so the Manna
Plant may be legally smoked with region accord We
The Founding Accord to US Reliqua know as Proper
Assess to allow regional legal referral to TriCam
known as the TriCameral Union regional US and En
[England] way to localize cannabis legally smoked
and begin Decrim2 North American and Europe OK[+] .
If you haven’t heard about this .,. you are probably
still saying “m word” {the keyword of banning} and I
guess you see Green Cross as the best and only legal
referral to smoke pot with ‘cannabe’ quality so far
at the United States . I will want National Decrim2
and some thought the West Coast ideal medicinal pot
continues as the only available “legality” so you ~
may smoke cannabis or “m word” or pot or whatever !!
you known it as .,. though the keyword system with
national enforcement determines the “unsaid busts”
by what you call it and actually what quality you
try to grow . Thanks , Hooray . good luck . Bryan
Well Obama, how are you and your pets going to break down doors now that the tornado kicked them down for you.. Everything is all on the people from tornados to your pets tearing up property on a hunch.. Put the Constitution back as a whole document and call your pets off. We got enough problems without you!
Hello . The Florida bud was liked and available when
near the mid-1980’s proper lenient accord with the ~
Florida residents allowed a lil smoking and Disneyesqe
warm weather and “big dining” to offer private accord
recreation and now with ‘Florida ganja’ seen as grant
quoted “dangerous again” and with Rubio according uh
Family Bible of Florida [a proper faith based book] ,
there’s the Democrat Accord before AZ shooting after
the picture taking session with Boehner and this was
after the ‘weed kill’ problem @ Virginia Tech [which
I’m informed about , though I don’t like at all] so:
if the Colorado “cannaba food industry” and WA State
both allow a form of West Coast known State ID with
“out of state” accord Washington tried the outer #$
state ID allowing visiting medicinal client and the
Colorado West Coast known [Chico.|.] food industry:
known as “Colorado Cannaba Taberi _\|/_{bud}” INDU
there are state ID system allowing out of state ,%
though now I see the comment about Florida was not
on the blog as I read it , so other comment to uh
Bobby Denning . :: Bobby Denning 🙂 Hello {[+]}
You are a somewhat famous “scruffy” dark skin tone
activist who for reason of races respect should uh
respect the setting “Scruffy” or “Socks” would be
the President’s pet .,. and Obama beginning the :
Tolerant Policy About What Happens to Presidents
As Soon As They Try to Form GOP Republican Time
to Consider New Term or A Year in Advance With A
Problem of the GOP Finances Being Diverted to Uh
Republican Finance as Our IMF and Funding We Know
As The Proper Budget Allocated Was Uhm Stolen To
Fund a Republican Term of Probabl{y} Illegal and
Mis-Counted Voting {which with nuclear munition
and the Rally , Rally round granting would be so
bad for Earth Peace it will not be accepted as a
(un)rational attempt to fund wartime and FEMA uh
disaster funding known to be the flooding and !!
tornado which should not move straight to Joplin
and sit rite on the FEMA office for uhm Money} ,.
So Yes , we have Full Set of Problems without Obama
and we don’t seem to have a New Age progressive @!!
alternative .,. my opinion ., I am Tea Party Geom
Democrat Kingdom former activist leader OK[+] Amen .
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