If there were ever a year to attend NORML’s national conference, this is it.
NORML 2009: Yes We Cannabis!
September 24-26, 2009
Grand Hyatt Hotel
San Francisco
There has never been a greater cultural, media or political zeitgeist to re-legalize cannabis than right now. Indeed, even more so than the 1970s era of decriminalization.
Indicative of such momentum, last Thursday U.S. Representatives Barney Frank (D-MA) and Ron Paul (R-TX) have re-introduced the cannabis decriminalization bill that NORML help to write and champion for introduction in the 111th Congress.
Take Advantage Of Great Early Bird Registration and Reduced Room Rates At a Four-Star Tower Hotel in San Francisco
For this and other numerous reasons, if possible, please take advantage of NORML’s early bird discounts resulting in 35% off the conference registration and socials by registering ASAP.
>> REGISTER NOW <<
Also, don’t delay in reserving your room for the national conference as NORML always sells out the reserved room block of discounted rooms. Don’t miss out on a room at a great 4-star tower hotel in San Francisco.
Discounted Rooms at Luxury Hotel in SF…Reserve Now!
I strongly encourage you to take advantage of the greatly discounted hotel rooms available at the beautiful, and centrally located Grand Hyatt Hotel San Francisco on Union Square.
Single (or double) occupancy is only $165/night (rack rate for rooms at the Grand Hyatt are usually $275-$400/night) by calling 415-398-1234 (must refer to ‘NORML – National Sales Meeting‘).
Add $75/night for an executive upgrade; triples and quads also available at $190 and $215 respectively.
Negotiating $55/night for a 4-star tower hotel in the commercial district of San Francisco is one way to make the conference as affordable, and popular, as possible.
Limited Number of Reserved Smoking and Wheelchair Accessible Rooms
There are only 30 reserved ‘smoking’, and 10 wheelchair-accessible rooms available for cannabis and/or tobacco consumers. Act fast.
Reserve your room here.
Affordable Airfare Available Right Now
A number of staff have already reserved flights at very low costs, i.e, $215 non-stop, round-trip on Virgin Airlines from Washington DC to San Francisco. Other similar deals currently exist on most airlines.
Medical Cannabis-Only Day
Lastly, the very first day of the conference is devoted entirely to the topic of medical cannabis, the emerging ‘cannabusinesses’ in a number of medical cannabis states (such as California) and ‘best practices’ for patients and providers. At the last two NORML conferences (in Los Angeles and Berkeley) the medical cannabis-only days were very successful and held on day #3 of the conferences; this year it is front-loaded into the day #1 slot.
Once again, guided tours of medical cannabis wellness centers in ‘Oaksterdam‘ and other parts of the SF Bay area available.
About 70% of conference attendees come for the ‘regular’ sessions and the rest come for the medical cannabis-only day, so if you have strong interests in medical cannabis (as you should), please plan on attending all three days of this year’s 38th annual national NORML conference.
Can Last Year’s Conference Party Be Topped?
For those who attended last year’s conference in Berkeley, the best efforts are being made to make sure that, if at all possible, this year’s Saturday Night Fundraising Party during the conference tops last year’s. If you can conceive of that!
Again, with the incredible social, media and political momentum swinging cannabis law reformers’ way since the beginning of 2009 (building on decades of hard work), this really is not the year to miss NORML’s national conference.
Please email conference@norml.org with any questions or concerns about this year’s conference, and I sincerely hope to see you at NORML’s ‘Yes We Cannabis!‘ national conference in September.
>> REGISTER NOW <<
Thanks for all your hard work and support for cannabis law reform!
Kind regards,
Allen St. Pierre
Executive Director
Board Member
NORML/NORML Foundation
director@norml.org
p.s. The conference planning committee has left open a few slots for either your speaker or panel suggestions, please forward your suggestions or proposals to: conference@norml.org
Partial listing of panel topics for this year’s conference include:
-The Zeitgeist of Legalization: Why and How Did This Happen?
-Pot Politics 2009 and beyond
-Has Support For Legalization Reached The Tipping Point?
-What Impact Would Legalization/Regulation Have On Use Rates
-Cannabis Law Reforms Missing Link: Law Enforcement
-Putting The Mexican Cartels Out Of Business
-Marijuana Legalization as a Local, State and Federal Revenue Stream
-Pot, Parenting and Legalization
-Cannabis and Athleticism
Medical Cannabis-only day
-Panels and lectures on the health effects of medical cannabis;
examinations and discussions led by expert lawyers focusing on emerging medical cannabis distribution models; taxation; zoning and business license issues and criminal defense representation.
Sounds Very interesting.Shitty part is im from iowa an the way the economy is i cant afford to go but hopefully there will be somthin tht happens outta this.
Hell Yea Normal
CALLING ALL X’ERS
An X’er is anyone born between 1960 and 1980, or the X Decades. There are 85 million X’ers, or the X Generation, and are the “largest voting block in the United States.” The reality of that is…X’ers can have anything they want…simply by voting for it. That’s right!…but…you have to vote for it, because prohibs don’t give a tinker’s damn about your opinion.
Opinions don’t get the job done…it takes “INDIVIDUAL ACTION.”
CALLING ALL GRAYS
A gray…signifying the color of their hair…are retired persons. The world knows “the time tested power of grays.” Bring it on!
CALLING ALL MILLENIUMS
Milleniums are the population following X’ers. These are X’ers sons and daughters of X’ers, and grays grand children. One thing to keep in mind is that Milleniums are not children, and are a force to reckon with. X’ers can make anything happen…but…when the grays jump on the band wagon it’s all over. The Milleniums complete the package, and are the final nail in the prohibs coffin.
This may not coincide exactly with what has otherwise been described as X’ers, grays, and milleniums..but…
if you add up the census, regardless, what the hell is left? Oh ya!…prohibs. Wake up prohibs…we’re going to play a little political game, and you’ve already lost…but…take your best shot.
I loved the idea of going to this! Unfortunatly, I live on the East coast. I would love to go to an organized rally in Washington DC, perhaps that enthusiastic lawyer we recently heard from could speak. I heard that a rally like this may going on this July 4th, 100,000 tokers strong. Is this true?
Our oppressive lawmakers and Bush moved more money from the hands of the middle class and poor. To the rich and themselves. What we have left is the poor and the rich. I think it is time to change the game. There are way more poor than rich. Lets get together and change the deal!!! Ending the war on drugs is number one on my list. Then universal health care for all. Fixing the TAX/IRS system. Stop our lawmakers from taking bribes and working not in our best interest. Fair wages for work given including making the minimum wage $10.00 per hour…. Lets fix these first then we can work on really ending the war in other country’s..
And Government waste!!!
Cherokee Fred Jesus
I want the poster how much you need??
CFJ
Right on NORML. Wish you guys would produce that kik ass picture into flags and sell em. i want a huge one for my livingroom. Id pay dam good money. It could help you guys get extra income.
[Editor’s Note: NORML’s 2009 conference poster is being printed and will be available in two ways, 1) it is a part of NORML’s conference ‘swag’ bag, provided with registration and 2) The 24 x 18 full color posters will be available for $15 (s/h included) or $25 (personalized and signed by NORML’s Executive Director). The posters are being printed in Oakland and will appear soon as a stand-alone purchase from NORML’s online store and the ‘2009 Conference’ section. Lastly, the 2009 conference artwork is already available on t-shirts and other doo-dads at: http://www.cafepress.com/norml/6771836%5D
Wish I could go; you guys do well and get the message out! Legalize to end the hatred of the world!
Awesome, unfortunately I to live in Iowa , making it to this event wont happen.
Yes I would like the poster too.
Cherokee Fred Jesus, I like your ideas but raising the min wage would only result in the same thing that greed always does..price of everthing will go up as producers see we have more money to take, eating up any wage increase. Its just wrong how we are used, and abused at the hands of the rich. When your down they put a boot to your neck to try keep you there.
haha, I want that poster too.
420 Forever~
Enough Said…
*sigh* more lies I saw today on CNN…”more studies showing how dangerous pot really is” heh
I just registered. I am sooooo stoked. This will be my third NORML conference in a row!
Somebody invite the National News Media, this is the one year with the most!
hey cherokee, if you want uni health care, renouce your citizenship, walk into any hosptl, jabber a bunch of spanish and they will take wonderful care of you…ps uni health care would be terrible. do you really want someone to decide you are too old for care and they bump you to the end of the list or all the way off it? flip it over on BBC and look at those beautiful teeth they are packin. that should be enough to sway your mind. please dont make the mistake of including reefer reform in with other views of liberals, because it only turns more people off to the cause. there are many people out there that you would consider conservatives that support this 100%. lets make it about the plant and nothing else!
that graphic is awesome! thank you for all the hard work! i probably can’t attend.. but, yea.
ogre25, on the other hand, don’t make the mistake of polluting a reefer reform discussion with uninformed comments about British health care. The WHO ranks them far above the US. Slightly offensive comments about Latinos don’t help, either.
russ, sorry i dont believe in giving out free handouts on a permanet basis. when you socialize things, you take the drive out of humanity, no one works to develope anything new anymore. people will fall in a rut because there will no longer be a reason to strive for anything better in life. basically, humanity will stall out. All i am trying to do is explain that one of the main reasons that reform fails to take hold is because the movement is grouped in with many leftist ideas. and as far as social programs, look at 2 of the biggest we have in this country, ssi and the usps….both flat broke. the first because population boom (which the uk does not have to contend with in the same fashion as the US) was not taken into account and the second because good ole fashion capitalism is shutting in down. our government has proved that it cant manage anything worth a damn, why in the world would we want them in control of our healthcare? the whole point of this movement is to get the government to stop telling us what is good for us and what isnt!
To Ogre25: Social Security is not flat broke. Social Security is solvent to 2050, and even then, raising the $90,000 income cap would pay for all Baby Boomers in a second.
USPS is not run by the government. It is a private firm completely funded by postage fees and products. Yes, the Postmaster General is a government appointee and the USPS does get some considerations other private firms do not get, but it is not “government run”.
Question: Do you think the military runs things “worth a damn?” How about the police? The fire department? All socialist.
Question: Every capitalist western democracy, except the US, has some form of public health care; how is that possible if “socialism” “takes the drive out of humanity”?
Here’s what you’re missing in the FOX 6-second sound byte: nobody is arguing for a socialist health care system. If government-run health care sucks so bad, so long as private health care is allowed to continue (which everyone is arguing for), wouldn’t the superior “current private health-care tied to job-health insurance in an adversarial role designed to deny coverage” kick government health care’s butt in the free marketplace?
Now, why do I go on about this argument in a marijuana legalization forum? Because I believe that this entrenched pharmaceutical – health care – insurance complex loves the status quo of prohibited marijuana and lobbies to keep it that way, and they are now lobbying very hard to squelch any attempt at a public health care option. That tells me public health care scares them because they know they can’t compete and they know they’ll lose power, and if they lose power we gain it. Plus, a public health care option like Britain’s, where doctors are evaluated based on how healthy their patients remain and where the government wants to keep medicine costs down will favor the cheap and effective use of cannabis as medicine.
Shorter: Public health care leads to legalized marijuana. In a public system, the only way they keep costs down is if people don’t use it. People growing medicine and treating themselves don’t need as much public health care.
ogre25..
Yes I want universal health care check out Canada they love it, everyone can get help. I try anything I can to end the war on drugs. I have always preached you could pay of UNIcare for all by ending the war on US (drugs). And have money left over. I owned a trainer park for 17 years and health care and ending the war does go hand in hand..
CFJ
LEAP Media Director Tom Angell Puts the U.S. Drug Czar on the Spot
What happened to comments for previous article?
russ, once again, all i am saying is that marijuana is grouped in with the liberal agenda to a point where the middle is afraid to go along with it. people are afraid that if they elect someone who supports legalization, they will wake up one morning with a note on their front door saying all their firearms are to be brought to city hall by 12pm the following day. and lets face it, the medical aspect of marijuana is 0% of the reason it should be legal, it should be because this is america and its a plant. russ, all i’m trying to say is that less government is better. i know that we can agree on that, we are on the same team here. since you are part of norml, please make an attempt to reach out to the rest of the country. hold your annual events in places that you normally would not. everyone knows that cali loves the marijuana. you have to reach out to the entire country and not just make this a west and north east issue. hold an event in southeast somewhere or the midwest. seeing a demostration going on in cali doesnt make anyone look twice, because it happens everyday. have a big hoorah in dallas tx, atlanta ga, bham alabama, nashville tn, anywhere that will grab the attention of people that dont get shoved in their face on a regular basis. enough work has been done in most of the places that these things are held, most of the population already supports what we stand for. take our cause on the road so the rest of america can get behind it. just check all the other agendas at the door so people dont think they are getting a package deal by supporting the cause. the reform movement has to loose its “tree hugger, save the whales” image before people will go along with it. while i do believe the whales and trees do need to be saved, you can do it in a way that is appealing. if it wasnt for hippies in the late 1960’s and 70’s, lsd and weed would have never been placed on the con sub list. america hates hippies, they ruined to many good things by claming them as their mottos and way of life. the moms and dads of the era thought…”omg, if my child starts smoking dope, they will loose all interest in life and want to live with other people in the woods and never take showers…” that my friend, along with dick nixon, is the reason that these “drugs” are illegal. not lobbyist, not the medical world, not anything other than good ole fashion poor examples set by a certain % of the population that chose to indulge in the world of harmless personal use of lsd and marijuana. hippies acted like complete morons and just happened to have a joint between their fingers when they were doing it, that is why we are where we are.
20 Russ Belville
The U.S. Postal Service is not the only private corporation for the benefit of the people. The Federal Reserve is also one of those “sweet deals.”
We…the U.S… have the best health care system in the world. If it’s hampered by the insurance companies “pseudo socialized medicine”…how do you think the government is going to f–k it up? Granted…medicine is expensive… but… ask you doctor how much profit there is in capitation, after the bills are paid. Right! It’s the insurance companies that make you feel the way you do. By the way…Canadian’s (patients) are not that happy with their system.
I once asked the smartest man I know…”What’s the difference between a Republican and a Democrat?” He asked me if I had $2.00 in my pocket. I said yes. He said…”you’re a Republican!”
cherokee,
if we ended the war on drugs, we could build a city on mars with all the money thats saved. i’m not saying we couldnt pay for it, i’m saying i dont wanna pay for it. its just the same with your min wage comment. a loaf of bread would cost 10 bucks if min wage was 10 bucks. sadly, $ is what drives most people to success. i know in a perfect world, we would like to think doctors get into the field to help people, but more than likely its to make a fat paycheck. if you take that away, those smart people will go elsewhere to make that paycheck. uncle sam is already running your life enough as it is, why do you want him telling you how sick you have to be to get treatment. better yet, do you wanna wait in line because the same pussy that keeps coming in every 2 weeks because they just dont feel good? as bad as i hate to say it and it sounds, our diversity in this country will never allow a program such as the uk’s and canada’s to succeed. we already have hundreds of thousands of people that take advantage of our ssi and welfare system. all you are doing is making more programs in which they will take advantage. I’m not so cold that i dont realize that millions of people need health care in this country go without it every day. the children i believe should be taken care of. the adults however is a diff story. i know from experience what it is like to have no health insurance or benefits. but what i didnt do is sit on my ass waiting on someone else to bail me out. this is the land of the pursuit of happiness, not the right of happiness. free things lead to lazy people. when is the last time any of these other countries with their “great ideas” contributed on any scale the amount that the USofA has to the world community. we are the best because people from all over the world know that there is one place they can go and bust their ass and make it in life. that there is one place that will foster their ideas of invention and advancement. you are already ahead of the game if you live here, why bitch for more. you already got a better shot than the billions of other people in the world that are stuck in some shit hole they call home. working hard will get you ahead in life. we are already the most charitable country in the world. if you want to change something, start moaning about the billions in aid when send to other countries when we have kids in this country who need it just as bad. free health care for the children, show me where to sign, free handouts to adults, no deal.
I think you should study it more..
CFJ
It sounds exciting but I 2 will not be able to attend that place. Make some louds noise. Let the East Coast hear you all the way to the white house in to Mr. President ears!
Also if you live in the East coast anywhere near DC come to the DC Smoke-in on 4th of July 2009 Rally High noon- lafayette park
parade 3pm- lafayette park to lincoln memorial
concert 2pm- 9pm- 23RD and Constitution avenue nw
See yall there!
PROOF
Hold up a $100 bill in the middle of a group of people…
and say…”Did anyone lose a $100.”
“Legalization of marijuana, no matter how it begins, will come at the expense of our children and public safety,” says a DEA document. “It will create dependency and treatment issues, and open the door to use of other drugs, impaired health, delinquent behavior, and drugged drivers.”
The D.E.A = Drunk Evil Alcohol
Why do idiots control the world?
30 Commonsense.
Common sense answer your question…”It’s because we let’em.”
I went to the doctor…I said…”Doctor…it hurts when I do that. He said…”Well!…don’t do that.”
It’s not the funny joke it use to be!
Man, I would really love one of those “Yes We Cannibas” posters. The artwork is fantastic.
Can you sell them to raise money for more ads?
I will buy one for sure.
Thank You NORML!
[Editor’s note: The posters are currently being printed and donations for them can be sent to: https://secure.norml.org]
I just figured out why I’m so excited to attend the NORML Conference in San Franciso come September.
It’s because there will be so many happy smiling people who literally are the NORML legislation for us all now a days.
Not to mention the fact of how much I love it over there anyway. My children live there too. And no wild horses won’t stop this here woman from coming ’round the mountain.
Yes I am laughing too.
Wendy ReNae Warr Elorriaga
Let’s all be careful now ‘ya hear? Don’t be smiling too damn hard, you might wind up in trouble….
Last Thursday, you say.
>:3
I have a problem with legalization over decriminalization. I would prefer that the laws still assess a fine equivalent to a small traffic ticket, and that cultivation still be illegal with no jail sentence. I’ve been smoking for over 35 years and am not thinking of giving up my habit, so stick with my thinking, please.
I remember a time before reagan gave monsanto the right to engineer seed. They have since formed a near complete monopoly of genetisized seed to the point where they now technically own nearly 90% of the worlds plant seeds. Since that time, their research and development have rendered our food stocks as virtually non-nutritious. The legalization of cannabis creates two problems because of these facts. Monsanto will ‘own’ all cannabis seeds and if they follow their past trends, in less than a decade will severely curtail potency just the same way as they have depleted nutritional value of our food. I prefer that monsanto and uncle sam keep their fingers out of my stash.
I also have some other concerns, but these are even MORE personal. I grow. If legalized, the “grassroots” business, and the subsiquent chain of others who use my ‘produce’ to generate income for their families in a faltering economy will no longer be our profit, it will go to corporate entities, probably R. J. Reynolds and Phillip Morris. Follow along. This gets a bit beyond what most are thinking of when they are conversing about legalization. These companies are assessed an increased and increasing tax burden for the products they sell. They ass this added expense onto the user. The states charge a use tax that is also increasing every election. Pretty packaging, preservatives to keep the product from spoiling on the shelf, and added tax will drive the price of your oz. up, and if you use the same table of increase on tobacco to judge, your $50 sack of chronic will go up to over $250 per. And, if the earlier facts about corporate controlled seed rendering applies, for a less desirable product that will not be the product we currently enjoy except in genus only. I burn an oz. a week and my habit isn’t as frequent as many others. I would be paying a new version of R. J. Reynolds around $10,000 EXTRA every year for their machine rolled, cellophane wrapped, formaldehyde drenched weed because it has their logo and some name like “LUCKY 13 100’s”. Another avenue for corporate greed to fulfill it’s averous threw our pockets. I have NEVER been busted for pot. But the national average shows that annually less than .001% of the users are ever caught, charged or suffer any loss of revenue due to it’s use. That comes to less than $0.10 per user per year levied in fines. Compare that to the $10,000 extra per year we may all be faced with paying. And haven’t we all learned how to combat the possibility of being caught long ago? I’m not about to have my recreational pass-time impacted so deeply because some cancer patient in California wants to be able to blow magic smoke rings while he walks down Rodeo Dr.
The use of marijuana in The U. S. has always had some appeal based in bucking the system and thumbing our noses at convention while gaining a new perspective of the world. By giving control of OUR habit to the fed, we give up every aspect of the habit that makes it affordable, enjoyable, and profitable.
LEGALIZE? HELL NO!
[Editor’s note: Under legalization, if government regulations (think 3% laws for beer in some states) and inferior corporate cannabis, consumers can grow their own. Which, has got to be better then keeping the ills of prohibition in place such as arrest, prosecution, incarceration; drug testing for cannabis, civil forfeiture, denial of social services, loss of custodial rights and in many states loss of drivers license and/or voting rights. Under decrim, the religious, medical and industrial use would unfortunately also continue to be illegal…
One can be rightly dubious about the government and corporate intentions at times, but keeping cannabis illegal and unsanctioned, as compared to legal and sanctioned would end the negative and expensive interaction of American cannabis consumers with law enforcement–now occurring about 900,000 times a year.]
Dear Editor: I’m a little confused.
Under decrimination… the Religious, medical and industrial use would stay illegal? Would you mind please clarifying that for me a little?
….but keeping cannabis sativa illegal and unsanctioned….would END the negative 900,000 incidents? This is taking me some time to comprehend.
Thank you.
This would in itself be a global achievement I think, if we consider the ripple effect of a million people’s influence. If THEY are no longer harrassed it enables them to make a positive effect some other ways.
Hi #35 Red Bud how nice to met you. This is perhaps beyond my own intellect but I have to study some more and learn. Thnak you. I do follow your thinking so far.
i’m answering the post from the editor. The religious use that I know of are Rastafarian and i’m pretty sure they don’t endorse legalization. they use it during religious ceremonies. sure many choose to use more often than that, but again that’s a personal habit, not a religious one. medical use. many people are prescribed many substances that are illegal for non prescription users to have. would you endorse that morphine or oxy be legalized and everyone be able to have it? not me. finally the point about industrial use. are you referring to rope, cannabis fibers used for fabric or cellulose from the plant being used for plastics? if so, there is still sanctioned growth of non thc containing hemp for those products. we’re talking about pot. the only industrial use i know of for pot is like i stated, companies growing and distributing and my original contention still holds water. the sale of papers, bongs pipes and other ingestion systems would not be improved or hindered by legalization. true, tommy chong may not have gone to prison, but if they wanted him for some reason, you know they would have gotten him anyway. to quote your post, “One can be rightly dubious about the government and corporate intentions at times,” you seem to infer that these tendencies are rare. i think that recent news stories about wall street and banking and other huge corporations proves that it’s a more frequent trend than you infer in your post. i think my contention and position stand unchallenged by any factual information. so i say again….
LEGALIZE? HELL NO!
[Editor’s note: Because a tiny portion of the US population you claim does not want legalization, the vast majority is supposed to be subject to the costs and govt abuse of prohibition?? If Rastas, as you claim, don’t want to buy ganja when cannabis is legal, they can grow their own (like many already do…under prohibition).]
i didn’t make the statement that a tiny potion of the population doesn’t want legalization. I stated that a small portion of the population have faced legal action because of their habit. i will at this time state that it seems that in fact a relatively large portion of the populous do not want legalization. These are probably the people who either understand the impact on our use that legalization will have, partly for the reasons I stated earlier, and also persons who still have their ideas locked in the ’50’s. Either way, I’m sure the issue will fail just as it did in the 70’s. And I’m very happy about that. I don’t need legislation to protect me from the ramifications of being caught. I prefer that they stay out of my bag o’ buds.
I expect another post by you that makes reference to statements i didn’t make. after all, you’ve misquoted me two out of two times already.
[Editor’s note: If you’re keen on both getting busted for cannabis, and having the taxpayers keep paying for the obviously failed prohibition, that is certainly your call. However, if you ever get busted, please don’t contact a reform group like NORML, ACLU, etc… looking for legal assistance as the bed you make, is the bed you lie in.
Legalization is the only way to end Reefer Madness and the immense human waste of resources–and twisting of the US Constitution into a preztel–that prohibition engenders. Decriminalization, from NORML’s point of view, is always the best of the worse political compromises regarding cannabis law reform lobbying, but legalization, and it’s social benefits, is always the end game.]
this is as bad as posting anti bush statements on aol. man, if you get a thoughtful post that differs with your opinion, you really roll out the war wagon, don’t you? which corporation are you in here posting propaganda for? i find it hard to fathom that any organization such as norml or the aclu would be so blatantly opposed to an idea or opinion on an opinion poll. but i can completely buy the idea of a stooge for a company that is waiting in the wings to take advantage of legalization doing so. if my humble opinion threatens your agenda so much and you are so obvious in your misquotes of my former posts, then i would suggest you go smoke a joint and chill some. this is actually becoming rather comical except for fact that you are fighting so hard to discredit me with a twist of my words. but, since i don’t think i’d ever be calling norml or the aclu over a hundred dollar fine for a bag of weed, then your advise is well taken by me. after all, if i’ve been able to avoid the law man coming after me for this long, more than 35 years now, and i doubt that there would be any use for the american civil liberties union over a minor pot bust, i feel that my chances are good that it isn’t going to happen in the next couple of decades either. especially since in the part of my state i live in the fine for less than 100 grams is $200. i spend that much on papers. but nice attempt at a threat. now let me laugh it off. (how much you want to bet that he calls me paranoid next)
since my opinion is well stated, and in an attempt to end the conflict of ideas i seem to be creating, i’ll not be posting anymore on this board. I can’t believe that a smoker would be so up tight. all i will say in closing is we’ll see how many people support legalization IF the issue ever comes on a ballot. we already know how many people support decriminalization because of how many states and municipalities have adopted that avenue of reform.
Dear Editor; I fully comprehend now.
I wonder what ‘rastafarian’ means.
YES WE CANNABIS SATIVIANS
FAR TOO LONG HAVE TAKEN TOLL
FOR ALL THE MISCONCEPTIONS
THAT SWEET FREEDOM LETS UNFOLD.
[Editor’s note: If you’re keen on both getting busted for cannabis, and having the taxpayers keep paying for the obviously failed prohibition, that is certainly your call. However, if you ever get busted, please don’t contact a reform group like NORML, ACLU, etc… looking for legal assistance as the bed you make, is the bed you lie in.
Completely agree NORML. (and you’ve chewed my behind out in the past, but we get past that don’t we).
Further more this site is in support of Decriminalization and Legalization, please redbud understand that. You are being selfish to deny medical marijuana patients their medicine while you brag about smoking it and not getting caught. Not to mention the non-violent citizen arrests that suffer in prison for simple possession.
Hey Baby, I can’t make it then. It would have to be somewhere between the end of June and middle of August.
Concerning the NORML conference Allen St. Pierre. I’m concerned over M. Jackson’s death and the amount of pharmaceuticals he was allowed to get his hands on.
This isn’t going to bode well with Doctor’s and it could be bad news. That bad news being Doctor’s are going to become even more paranoid than they are now.
Is there a way for this conference to brain storm this topic and have a counter attack ready and in place?
I’d love to go but I’ll be back teaching then.
I remember this before in the 70’s and i didn’t think legalizing was a good idea then and have the same reservations. it’s a great source of currency in a failing economy…too good to give to Uncle Sam taxes on to bail out big money america.
has anyone considered “WATER” in the argument for ending the prohibition on cannabis & hemp?
it takes roughly 200 to 700 liters of water to make one litre of WINE. http://wineindustryinsight.com/?p=1415 lets say a conservative wineo drinks a bottle every other day rounding down to 3 bottles a week. in six months that person has consumed 78 bottles of wine, which (78*450=) roughly 35,000 liters of water to support their choice of vice over six months, or 192 liters PER DAY.
on my last 3 month indoor grow cycle, i used less then 700 liters of water to grow 6 cannabis plants (3 sativas & 3 indicas). these 6 plants have lasted me just about 6 months, and i consume more then the average cannabis user, which comes out to less then 4 liters a day.
we are in a time of water shortage, which “vice” or “choice” is better for the planet???
END THE PROHIBITION ON CANNABIS & HEMP and help SAVE our WATER SUPPLY
Most of us cannot travel…
Why doesn’t NORML sponsor satellite meetings closer to the people????
CFJ
[Russ responds: Many NORML chapters all around the country are hosting these “satellite meetings”. See norml.org/chapters for the one near you and norml.org/calendar for meeting and event times.
In the future, NORML’s national conference will be held in other cities, like Portland OR and Boston. But we’re not likely to schedule in an unfriendly location to cannabis, which puts us only in the West Coast, Northeast, and Great Lakes regions.]
So when are you coming to the Great Lakes region?
Smokey Da Weedy says “smoke your greens”!
wonder what ‘rastafarian’ means.
RAS TA FARI means “Head Creator”…
Wish I had the money. But thanks to the corporations that run our country. Money is tight unless you own a bank or car lot or are taking millions from PAC’s or lobbiest!!! I still don’t understand why we the tax payers are paying people 4500 to buy a car??? I can’t afford one even if they gave me 4500 of my own money to buy it…
You guys (NORML) are doing a great job I did spring for the poster (no signature) it will be a classic for sure!!!
Continue to represent us the poor and powerless that are being fed to a corporate machine to keep it running, please….
Cherokee Fred Jesus
Why don’t you invite GA Rep Tommy Brenton?
I wish I could go!! The topic of “Cannabis and Athleticism” is VERY interesting to me! I’ve known for over 20 years that cannabis deffinately has ERGOGENIC properties for the right individuals! I could talk about that for hours! 🙂
i find it very frustrating that those who grow and sell want to keep their “grassroots” business open at the expense of others who have children and assets that would be totally destroyed if cought. That’s fantasic if they never get arrested, but I for one would never risk my kids or years of hard work attaining what i have. Around my parts, the law is DEAD serious about small quantities and will use every power they have to prove a point.
Get legalization on public ballet and I’ll vote for it.
#59 jso Says:
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:59 pm
“Get legalization on public ballet
and I’ll vote for it.”
RE: Yes, jso…
And skeered poly-tishuns will just
DANCE
AROUND the issue…
😆
(This is also true,
even if placed on the
BALLOT
as well…)
#58 jab Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
“i find it very frustrating that those who grow and sell want to keep their “grassroots” business open at the expense of others who have children and assets that would be totally destroyed if cought. That’s fantasic if they never get arrested, but I for one would never risk my kids or years of hard work attaining what i have…”
RE: jab,
Not to denegrate any
parental-devotion you have
HOWEVER…
– It’s best NOT for ANYONE to
bring children into this
effed-up world,
(Especially so, since the law
in your area is “DEAD-serious”,
rather than just “DEAD”…)
(Just THINK of the PAIN they’ll
be experiencing in their 40’s-60’s,
if not sooner…!!!
UNMITIGATED by
low-cost, freely-available cannabis…)
🙁
Thought you folks might want to see this – Marijuana Economics: The Pros and Cons of California’s Cash Crop
– Richard Lee, Founder, Oaksterdam University, Founder, Oakland Civil Liberties Alliance
– Chief Scott Kirkland, Chief of Police, El Cerrito
– Eugene Schoenfeld, M.D., Court-Appointed Psychiatrist Panel Superior Court of Contra Costa County
– Josh Richman, Politics and Legal Affairs, Contra Costa Times – Moderator
Best of luck NORML Do us proud!
… i wish i could go…
I support what NORML are doing but i dont think this poster is useful. Not only is Obama is not smoking cannabis in the photo concerned, but also; images of role models smoking anything are not helpful in general public health terms and do not specifically further the NORML cause.
Combined with the 60s iconography it panders to stereotypes that also do not help. What may have seen clever at the time may not be effective in achieving the goals it ultimately seeks.
I like have an opinion. I feel the money should be spent on something the norml person can attend. Local more so that always in a city far far away.
CFHJC
I keep hearing majority rules. It does not even though I feel we are a majority in this cause. Ending the war on drugs and making cannabis legal like buying and growing tomatoes.
But this is not a majority country that is what is wrong with some people’s thinking. Its not majority rule and the rest go to jail. We should have room for all.
We were mainly founded for religious freedom not for only the majority religion either. For all no matter how small or large respect them all and their respective followers rights. IF ONLY WE COULD GET CHRISTIANS TO FOLLOW THIS IDEAL THEY CONTINUE TO= BE LIKE US OR WE WILL KILL YOU…
CFHJC
IMO~it’s very sad for me that my feelings about christians and police has been tarnished just because of prohibition. I would like to once again have respect for those who demonize us. If only we could have some control over their lives, like they do us, maybe they could understand what great pain they cause others. I feel like we are forbiden from riding the bus, let alone just having a seat in the back.
[Russ responds: One of the saddest things about marijuana prohibition is it has created an “us vs. them” mentality between the people and the police. It used to be (early 1960s and before) that everyone knew the beat cop in the neighborhood and teens and young adults trusted and respected him (for the most part) and would call on the “officer” in an emergency. As marijuana prohibition heated up in the late 1960s, he became “the fuzz” or “the pigs”, to be feared. Now he’s “the po-po” or “the five-oh” that nobody wants to see or talk to. How many crimes go unreported to police because a marijuana-using victim doesn’t want to bring on scrutiny from “the man”?]
Man, I thought this was a norml blog, not the chrokee fred blog ! Blah Blah blah ! Take your partisan bullshit somewhere else ,you always got something to say dont you ? Well who the fuck gives a rats ass what you think ! Geeeeeeeezzzzz ! Give it a rest will ya !!
i see a lot of comments regarding the children and the impact upon them of losing a parent due to current marijuana laws. like jab for instance. if your concern is for the well being of your children, what happened to that concern when you decided to take up a habit that was illegal at the time? and now, because you are once again thinking of yourself before your children, you move to screw up the only source of income that many others have to support their families thanks in no small part to the economy failure that you took advantage of. jab says that ‘grass roots’ businesses are doing so at the cost of his rights and is advocating handing over one of the few useful chains of revenue that uncle sam hasn’t taken control of and destroyed already. well, just because there are so many out there being short sighted again, just the same as they were when the bought into the idea of ‘every citizen a home owner’ that reagan pushed, which had a direct affect on the economic crash we are currently experiencing, doesn’t mean that they have the right to chastise those who understood the risks, acted intelligently to avoid same, and are unwilling to use our profits to bail out your government. fuck uncle sam and fuck you too.
one correction. it wasn’t jab, it was nuerogenesis
I thought the nice folks here were interested in changing the law, not bashing others for their opinions. This is prime example of why things will NEVER change. On a side note, I haven’t partaken in the herb in a very, very long while now. Good luck all. I’m done with all this. I’ll try not to let the door hit me on the way out…..
Why the change in the poster displayed on this page? I’m really repulsed to see Obummer’s picture, nothing personal to you NORML, just repulsed because of his disregard for Legalizer’s at the Town Hall meeting.
Still waiting to receive my autographed poster. Are they going to arrive soon?
Thanks for the email explaining the legal crud. You’re wise to not waste your time and energy on it.
I do still want a poster from the conference and if it’s the one above I’ll have a nicer target to throw darts at!
NORML!, why rethink and DE-CRIMINALIZE?
WTF? BULL$HIT
the marijuana and hemp need to come from somewhere. LEGALIZE. END the ProHibition! De-fund cartels. De-fund the DEA.
why not endorse the http://www.californiacannabisinitiative.org/
NOW NORML!????????
[Editor’s note: While NORML self-evidently favors legalization over decriminalization, there is not yet viable public (or political) support for legalization…even in CA. There are three competing ‘legalization’ initiatives in CA, and these initiatives will be discussed and debated at NORML’s upcoming national conference, Sept 24-26 in SF.]
#70 panama red Says:
September 5th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
“one correction. it wasn’t jab, it was nuerogenesis”
RE: panama red,
What are you trying to say??? 😕
(I think you’re confused…).
– I don’t have any children,
(Jab’s the one who does…).
I was “QUOTING” jab…
(Hence, the italics…
and bold type…
to CONTRAST “their words” from MINE),
As I said earlier,
I wouldn’t even bring children
into this world,
the way it presently is…
the way it’s presently run…
– However, I do not critcize those who have
brought children into this world,
and have done so responsibly and with care…
they will never legalize marijuana the politians are in the pocket of the pharmaceutical companys this business made the most profits this year alone! politian and the media are out for themselves ,not the people PORK BILL POLITIANS PIGS ,POLITIANS NEED TO BE PAID MINIMUM WAGE! WHY ARE DO THEY MAKE BETTER MONEY THAN MOST CITIZENS HAVE BETTER HEALTH CARE GET MORE VACATIONS OR RECESSES? IT SHOULD BE A HONOOR TO SERVE IN THAT POSTION .POLITIANS BUT HEAR THE PEOPLE AND THEY DONT GET THINGS DONE AND THE MEDIA DOESNT TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH , THEY DONT GIVE AIR TIME TO WHAT THEY DONT BACK CASE IN POINT IS RON PAULS RUN FOR THE PRESIDENCY MEDIA DIDNT EVEN GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO SPEAK OR BE HEARD
between the judicial system making money on locking people up and the politians up the pharmaceutical companies ass for their kick backs and the media not airing the whole truth we will never see marijuana legaized i dont think been waiting 60 years now for the land of the free to let me be
For anyone saying that Marijuana will never be legalized I beg to differ. We are the children of NORML and our mother NORML and her children are no longer going to play these games with these evil self rightous hypocritical politicians and we are not going to back down! I urge everyone to send in their five dollars a month donation(those who can give more I beg you to do so) and start reporting all politicians to NORML bloggers that continue to not care about our votes! I already have one on the list and that is the governor from Minnosota Pawley I think his name is he just struck down a bill to help dying citizens the right to medicial marijuana but homeboy wants to be President but we the children of NORML stand to say not on our watch you will not be! Look folks the days of talking about it is over we now have to be about it! Is it going to be easy? NO! for it is going to require that we get people to register to vote and then make sure they know who to vote for because I have noticed that many people in the cities may know a couple of candidates but after that they really do not know who to vote for and who to vote against. Does this mean that many of us will have to actively go into neighborhoods and campaign for certain individuals who support our cause and roll over those who dont? YES! Does it mean that we are going to have to research many of these politicians to see what other groups are against them so we can ride on their coat tail? YES! Does it mean that we are going to have sacrifice that one starbucks coffee a month that cost five dollars to send to our mother NORML? YES! for money talks and BS stands still! There is much work to be done and that is why this conference on September 24, 2009 will be one of the most important conferences for us and our mother NORML for this conference will provide us with the leadership to tell us what to do and to tell the world and all the politicians that we have had enough! and we aint going nowhere and that our mother NORML and her children will become one of their own worst nightmares!
naive 2 say never seedy… the earth is 4 billion years old. marijuana & hemp have been illegal for less then 75 years. another 2000 years honestly to you envision marijuana & hemp being illegal?
# seedy Says:
September 12th, 2009 at 11:54 am
they will never legalize marijuana the politians are in the pocket of the pharmaceutical companys this business made the most profits this year alone! politian and the media are out for themselves ,not the people PORK BILL POLITIANS PIGS ,POLITIANS NEED TO BE PAID MINIMUM WAGE! WHY ARE DO THEY MAKE BETTER MONEY THAN MOST CITIZENS HAVE BETTER HEALTH CARE GET MORE VACATIONS OR RECESSES? IT SHOULD BE A HONOOR TO SERVE IN THAT POSTION .POLITIANS BUT HEAR THE PEOPLE AND THEY DONT GET THINGS DONE AND THE MEDIA DOESNT TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH , THEY DONT GIVE AIR TIME TO WHAT THEY DONT BACK CASE IN POINT IS RON PAULS RUN FOR THE PRESIDENCY MEDIA DIDNT EVEN GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO SPEAK OR BE HEARD
hey Editors! wake up. now is the time. you keep putting numbers out their in the mid 40s for national support for ending marijuana prohibition. don’t you think california is damn close to being READY NOW…only if they are informed. Obama getting elected was an impossiblity 1.5 years before the election…yet it happened. Marijuana legalization is defintely not out of the question especially packaged with HEMP. why even consider Richard Lee’s proposal which is $hit?
[Editor’s note: While NORML self-evidently favors legalization over decriminalization, there is not yet viable public (or political) support for legalization…even in CA. There are three competing ‘legalization’ initiatives in CA, and these initiatives will be discussed and debated at NORML’s upcoming national conference, Sept 24-26 in SF.]
[Editor’s warning: Hey Johnny One Note, if you lack basic civility, insult others and can’t stop promoting your preferred version of a CA initiative on NORML’s webpage, your posts will be deleted.]
jeff newman dont see this world around in 2000years nandi only mother i have been dead for a very long time WISH MJ WAS LEGAL DONT SEE IT HAPPENING IS ALL IVE BEEN TO PRISON FOR MARIJUANA GOVERNMENT MAKES TO MUCH CASH FROM IT AND THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES DONT WANT THE COMPETION FOR THEIR MAN MADE DRUGS
i’m definitely not a johhny one note as you can see from my past posts for months and my contributions to NORML. just getting frustrated.
People People People do you still not have faith? trust me when I tell you that you have Power and your power is no less than the pro lifers or any other group but if you keep talking negative then negative is what you will get! I tell you this if all of us send in our contributions and we stand strong we will release our brothers and sisters from jail and provide medical relief to those who are dying. I tell you we have political power and the great thing about us is that we do not have to go and announce to people to vote for someone who is against our cause for I noticed that many of these politicians their our other groups who oppose them so what we would do is simply ride on their coattails and our mother NORML will let those politicians know in her silent manner that she and her children are there! but IF anyone thinks for one moment that we do not have to do anything and that all we have to do is sit on our butts and blog about it your right we will get NO WHERE! This is going to take effort by contributions, blogging and notifying other members about politicians who oppose us, making sure that we get our people out there to register to vote and possibly canvassing during the elections to get people to support the politicians that are on our side and to vote against those who oppose and waiting for direction from our mother NORML! People quit being negative WE ARE POWER!
This sounds like an excellent conference. I’m from San Francisco and will definitely attend. I’m a big proponent of what assemblyman Tom Ammiano is proposing in terms of legalization. http://www.campaignsthatmatter.com/articles/5-legalizing-marijuana-in-california
found this of interest…
Green Soul Jah { 09.14.09 at 1:26 pm }
MPP : Sounds like Canna-Politics is delaying your endorsement of one of the 3 proposed initiatives.
I understand if you don’t want to endorse any of them, but I think it’s only fair to at least notify or discuss the initiatives to the visitors of your website and it’s donors. To think you guys even made a commercial to Tax & Regulate yet don’t want to endorse any of the 3 or even present all 3 of the initiatives??
Keeping a lid on it will not help any of the 3 initiatives and will only leave them struggling to get the word out and time is running out. I’d rather have at least one of them make the ballot instead of none of them.
To wait another 3 years is senseless, we need to strike while the iron is hot. The 2012 election will only suck out all the momentum from initiative. We thought things would change when Obama came in office as he tried to appeal to cannabis users, and look what happened!!!
It’s a very unwise move on behalf of MPP to stand on the side lines and see who comes out on top without encouraging anyone to sign up for any of the 3 initiatives….I hate Canna-Politics because it causes division within the Cannabis Community, that should have one goal in mind : LEGALIZATION!!!!
This is a time to draw out our guns, not keep them holstered for another day. We’ve had way too many “maybe next time” moments in the cannabis legalization movement.
We must act on the current voter’s emotions while we have their attention. Who knows what kind of event that may happen in 2012 that would overshadow our cause to be placed on the back burner for another “maybe next time” moment………
THE CRIMINAL CHARGE: Mr. Harry J. Anslinger, an agent for the Federal Government, did willfully and wantonly committed Fraud and Constructive Fraud, of which Mr. Anslinger perpetrated upon the United States people as a whole and their United States Congress for the sole purpose “ to impair or injure public interest” in the cannabis plant as a traditional medicine or as a valuable agricultural crop.
Fraud: as defined by Black’s Law Dictionary, “An intentional perversion of the truth for the purpose of inducing another in reliance upon it to part with some valuable thing belonging to him or to surrender a legal right; a false representation of a matter of fact, whether by words or by conduct, by false or misleading allegations, or by concealment of that which should have been disclosed, which deceives and is intended to deceive another so that he shall act upon it to his legal injury.”
Constructive Fraud: as defined by Bovier’s Law Dictionary – 1856 Edition which states, “Constructive fraud: A contract or act, which, not originating in evil design and contrivance to perpetuate a positive fraud or injury upon other persons, yet, by its necessary tendency to deceive or mislead them, or to violate a public or private confidence, or to impair or injure public interest, is deemed equally reprehensible with positive fraud, and therefore is prohibited by law, … ”
Harrison Narcotics Act – 63rd US Congress 1914
Marihuana Tax Act – 75th US Congress April 14, 1937, signed August 2, 1937
The Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act – 91st US Congress October 27, 1970
The Legislative Branch of the United States, sitting past & present, lacked / lacks the constitutional privilege or right granted to Congress by the United States Constitution in which to abrogate the natural inalienable rights secured by the people unless the U.S. Legislative branch has reviewed valid evidence, held fair, impartial, and publicly transparent hearings which showed, or shows, that our nation’s health and or welfare would be, or is, negatively effected should the United States peoples’ continue to execute their natural inalienable right of access to the cannabis plant can it be outlawed. Absent of these reasonable conditions Congress can not, may not use it’s privilege or right of abrogation of Constitutional Rights secured by the people.
It is only upon the reasonable presentation of scientific evidence which presents a valid social claim, and or an individual claim of harm that negatively impacts upon the whole, or part of, the Nation’s people does Congress have the responsibility to secure the nation’s health and welfare by use of it’s congressional privilege or right of abrogations by due process to secure said health and welfare of the Nation. But no U.S. Legislative body, past or present, has the congressional privilege or right to abrogate the natural inalienable rights secured in the United States people based on distortions, fanciful conjecture, and intentionally misleading medical and legal information. No where in the people’s founding contact adopted by the people and sworn to by this elected government does it allow deception, criminal and civil fraud, intentional misinformation, purposely tainted testimony, and the denial of any expert testimonies as bases for granting any elected and sworn U.S. Legislative body present or past with the misuse of it’s privilege or right of abrogation which allows the outlawing of the inalienable rights of the peoples’ of these United States without proper due process of law.
Therefore the foundation laid in Congress to abrogate the natural inalienable rights of the people lacked any real evident that the cannabis plant is or was, ever a safety issue which negatively impacted the health and welfare of the American Society, in part or as a whole. Furthermore, the U.S. Congress did not, can not, and still does not have the privilege or right granted in the United States Constitution to write any such legislation that would abrogate the American people from their natural inalienable rights to use the cannabis planet for reason of traditional medicine, or as a traditional food supplement, as an alternative fuel source, for the making of clothing, used as a replacement for wood, used in the making of traditional paper, and or for the peoples’ ancient spiritual, religious, or cultural practices of which is clearly protected for all time sake by our founding fathers’ constitutional preamble and the first ten amendments of the United States Constitution.
Hence, the United States Legislative actions known as the Harrison Narcotics Act of the 63rd legislative session, the Marihuana Tax Act of the 75th legislative session, and the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of the 91st legislative session and all those sub-action therein, which abrogate the natural inalienable rights of the people to have unfettered access to the cannabis plant is built upon a fraudulent act and therefore unconstitutional because these legislative foundations are based on fanciful propaganda which lacks any real legal scientific evident that demonstrates any negative impact on society by the use of the cannabis plant. The three legislative action listed above do adversely effect the safety and welfare of the America. These fraudulent acts of congress continue to harm the nation and drain the people of their valuable resources. Most importantly these acts have eroded the relationship between all three branches of government and the people they are suppose to represent.
Our Federal Congresses in the above named sessions have acted upon the U.S. constitutional provision involving the American peoples’ natural inalienable rights and have unlawfully abrogated those natural unalienable given rights of the United States people based solely on questionable congressional witness testimonies, a bombardment of fraudulent media presentations, and grossly misquoted medical and legal data, of which is still pervasive today in the minds of the American people. There is however an overwhelming, and ever growing mound of world-wide scientific data that demonstrate to the contrary the fraudulent education material perpetrated upon our society as well as the 63rd, 75th, and 91st United States Congresses. Our U.S. Congress therefore lacked then and still lacks now it’s constitutional privilege or right to abrogate the cannabis plant from the American people. All legislation, status, and laws written and enacted from these fraudulent act of intentional misguided legislation should be ruled by the Supreme Court in the land as null and void because they are repugnant to the foundation of the United States Constitution.
“ The Constitution is a written instrument, as such, its meaning does not alter. That which it meant when it was adopted, it means now.” South Carolina v. United States, 199 U.S. 437, 448 (1905)
“To disregard such a deliberate choice of words and their natural meaning, would be a departure from the first principle of constitutional interpretation.” “Every word must have its due force and appropriate meaning; for it is evident from the whole instrument, that, no word was unnecessarily used, or needlessly added.” Chief Justice Taney in Holmes v. Jennison, 14 U.S. 540, 570-1
“ Every word appears to have been weighted with the utmost deliberation and its effect to have been fully understood.” Wright v. United States, 302 U.S. 583 (1938)
“All laws which are repugnant to the constitution are null and void.” Chief Justice Marshall in Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 137, 174, 176 (1803)
“If the legislator clearly misinterprets a constitutional provision, the frequent repetition of the wrong will not create a right.” Amos v. Mosley, 74 Fla. 555; 77 So. 619. (Congress)
“Where rights are secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.” Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436, 491.
“When any court violates the clean and unambiguous language of the constitution, a fraud is perpetrated and no one is bound to obey it.” State v. Sutton Minn. 147, 65 NW 262, 30 L.R.A. 630 Am. St. 459)
“The due process clause of the Fifth Amendment guarantees to each citizen the equal protection of the laws and prohibits a denial thereof by any federal official.” Bolling v. Sharpe, 327 U.S. 497
. “Fraud vitiates the most solemn contracts, documents, and even judgments.” i.e. Documents, Constitutions, Court Decisions….. U.S. vs. Throckmorton, 98 U.S. 61
Lets place the legislation below against the ideas of the original draft of the Declaration of Independents written by Thomas Jefferson. Let see how these legislative acts create peace, respect, and honor in the relationship of the people with their elected government. Let see how these acts of legislation promote liberty and justice which is the very essence of the founding fathers’ spiritual dream for a country without tyranny and persecution. These legislative acts are known as the Harrison Narcotics Act of the 63rd US Congress (1914), the Marihuana Tax Act of the 75th US Congress (1937), and the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of the 91st US Congress (1970). VS. “We hold these truths to be sacred & undeniable; that all men are created equal & independent, that from that equal creation they derive rights inherent & inalienable, among which are the preservation of life, & liberty, & the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these ends, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government shall become destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, & to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles & organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety & happiness.”
Does these acts of congress preserve the inherent & inalienable rights of the people? How are the inherent & inalienable rights preserved by the government for the people? Among those rights are the preservation of life, liberty itself, and the very pursuit of happiness as an equal and independent person / people. When has this elected government respected the preservation of life? Where is our liberty today? Are we free to pursuit our independent happiness as long as it does not step on the rights of others? To secure these ends, governments are in instituted among men, driving their just powers from the consent of the governed. The Governed want changes in the cannabis law not a negotiation with the hired help! It is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, which shall most likely to effect their safety and happiness. So how does the present cannabis prohibition laws effect our safety and happiness? Has the government become destructive in their Constructive Fraud upon the people? Who is destructive to the safety and welfare of the American People? Do we now have a right to alter and or abolish those elements of government that are destructive to the people as a whole? As we have learn and are better educated should the American people have to maintain the fraudulent information and practices of the early 1900s? Or will we be allowed our liberty to case off that which is untrue which creates hostilities between the American people and their elected employees – government?
Can the American Government continue to unjustly defraud the American People of their inalienable rights to the cannabis plant even after their many lies are exposed? Why must we continue the fraudulent legislative acts? Why would the American People let this elected government, knowing there is no real safety issue with the health and welfare of the nation to continue to lock people up for the use the cannabis plant? Will we as American Juries allow another 800,000 plus fellow Americans be labeled as criminals? Can we change the law by Jury Nullification or Jury Lawlessness and put an end to these unlawful acts. If we, as the jury of peers refuse to convict our fellow American who use cannabis how will the government not hear our voice? Why will we Americans, the employer, let our government, the employees, spend billions of dollars, dollars we don’t have to spend, on incarcerating these cannabis plant users?(average cost of prisoner $23,500) How does taking Americans who have had their inalienable rights unjustly abrogated away from them, placed in prison, or placed on probation and forced to attend drug treatment, how does this make these folks a better person? Or for that matter where is the benefit to society? If we harden a person’s heart do we get a better citizen? Will it make for a better republic? Time for those called to jury duty to just say Not Guilty! We do not need the legislators to give us what is our already, it is time to just take it back, no negotiations, no legislation, just the American Juries putting government in it’s place, under the people not over them.
I agree legalization would be nice but trust me I will take decriminalization! aint nothing wrong with walking before running!
I agree to heck with waiting three years are we crazy in fact these next three years before the 2012 elections is when we should be working the hardest! What is it going to take to show how powerful we are? Are we that brainwashed?
ive been wondering NORML…. were you forced to change the picture of Obama to this new one?
steveyboy
Whats your problem posting envy??
End the war on US (drugs)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/19/despite-decriminalization_n_292467.html
Nandi:decriminilazation is a joke, we cannot put our efforts into policy for decrim. the cops will continue to ignore it such as this week in colorado. a 100 dollar ticket for mere possession. greedy PIG$! lets defund the cops & the drug cartels.
# Nandi Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
I agree legalization would be nice but trust me I will take decriminalization! aint nothing wrong with walking before running!
in my opinion marijuana will probably never be legalized until people realized its more of a political thing than a reality check. its like treason it works against the system. smoking marijuana may make you alittle slower,and a tad less motivated, its working against education and the benifit of the country in someones view. just like the reason it was made illegal. illegal immigrants from mexico hurt the country because they didnt pay taxes and stole jobs from american workers so they made it illegal since the mexicans were the ones that smoked it. if they push for bettering the educational system. why would they legalize the handycap +1. you want to be heavily motivated again and goal oriented, stop smoking for one week and see that u snap out of it. im for marijuana although this sounds like its against it. im not. i think its betters the world in so many ways. slow our growth down whats the rush?into collaspe? all good things come to an end. our country thinks way to much anyway. its all politics.i might not be a smart as most people but i feel that im pretty down to earth. and i do know one thing. marijuana isnt hurting anyone. in fact how many lives would be saved from switching a recreational drug from alcohol to pot? i also feel that in moral view. atleast my own, lying to someone or being dishonest is a far worse crime than smoking pot . KEEP PUSHING TO OPEN MINDS!!!! i work 40 hours a week as a stone mason enduring pain and feeling like im 50 at age 26 and at night go to school to become an accountant. not cuz im demotivated but because its the life i was delt.
Look I understand were you are coming from but at this point of time I do believe many of our brothers and sisters would have much rather have paid a fine than be sitting in jail and prisons right now! I too would love to see legalization and will fight for it but I will also fight for decriminalization especially if it means that many will avoid being locked up with murders, rapists, child molesters……like I said before sometimes in life we must walk before we can run.
alright i gotta say this
will obama please boss up
Just Legalize It,
Yes we had to change the image.
2010 is an election year for 33.33 % of the senate and all the house of representatives it is time to send them a message that they need to hear the people of the United State of American ,it be nice if they would get the message for once .they need to be taken down from their high pedastall paid minimum wage that what their worth they have better benefit get longer vacations let us show our leaders in washington the power the people have and the power of the internet ,we are asking the wrong questions since they dont hear us lets take their pay and benefits away .hell our senators and congresswoman do not pay social sercurity and of course they do not collect from it.they didnt think social sercurity benefits were not usuitable for a person of their rare elevation in society they felt they have a special plan for themselves so many years ago they voted themselves their own benefit plan and no congress person has ever felt to change this after all it is a great plan for all practical purposes their plan works like this .when they retire they continue to collect their same pay untill they die except for increases in the cost of living adjustments .for example senator byrd and congressman white and their wives too! may expect to draw $788,888,000.00 and their wifes draw $275000.00 during the last years of their lives.this is calculatred on an average life span of these dignitaries .younger dignitaries who retire at an early age will recieve much more during the rest of their lives.their cost for this plan is ZILCH NADA !!!THIS LITTLE PERK THEY VOTED THEY VOTED FOR THEMSELVES.and is free to them .and you and i pick up the tab for this fine retirement plan the funds come from the general funds OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK from our own social sercurity plan which you and i pay into for them .[OR HAVE TO PAY] every pay day.which amount is match by the employer .we can expect to get an average of $1,000.00 a month after retirement .or in other words we would have to collect our average at $1000.00 a month in benefits for 68 years and one month to equal senator bill bradleys benefits. our nation and social sercurity and the war on drugs would be could be very good if only one small change were made and JERK THE GOLDEN FLEECE THAT OUR REPRESENTATIVES HAVE FOR THEMSELVES PAY THEM MINIMUM WAGE THAT WHAT THEIR WORTH IT SHOULD BE A HONOR TO SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY TAKE AWAY THEIR SPECIAL BENEFITS THEY WORK FOR US ! THEY DONT LISTEN TO WHAT WE HAVE SAID FOR YEARS .PHARACEUTICAL COMPANIES MADE THE MOST PROFIT OF ALL COMPANIES ,STOP LOBBIEST FROM BRIBING OUR REPRESENTATIVE MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO RECIEVE ANY MONIES TO INFLUENCE THEM
I think having marijuana’s legalization on the California 2010 ballot is a good thing. It would be really more of a victory for privacy and freedom than anything. Its funny how so many people are against marijuana and it’s true marijuana can have negative effects both short term and long term with repeated use or “missuse.” Although it is currently classified as a schedule 1 narcotic it does poses positive attributes when certain things are considered. Websites like http://mrbuds.com are a great resource when considering the pros of medical marijuana. When compared with other schedule 1 narcotics marijuana’s negative effects pale in comparison and some people argue that marijuana has less negative effects as alcohol , a legal drug. So make up your own mind and do a little research.