With great regret and chagrin to report, CBS has rejected a contract deal with NORML to place a pro-cannabis law reform advertisement on the biggest electronic billboard in Times Square (The CBS ‘Super Screen’ at 42nd St) claiming that the advertisement is too political. NORML had a contract for the 15 second spot below on the giant billboard (and a second one featuring President Obama and New York City’s high cannabis arrest rate with its shocking racial disparity in enforcement).
High Times breaks the story tonight here.
This of course makes no sense to have CBS reject a non-profit organization like NORML’s pro-cannabis law reform advertisement, when, during the Super Bowl on Sunday–the most watched TV event annually in the United States–CBS is scheduled to air a controversial anti-abortion television advertisement produced by the socially conservative non-profit group Focus on the Family (who, like apparently CBS, is anti-cannabis). Last year, CBS rejected an advertisement from the liberal advocacy group MoveOn.org claiming it was too political as well.
The hypocrisy and double standard here is appalling. NORML and MoveOn.org ads are deemed ‘political’ and can’t be purchased and broadcast by CBS, but Focus on the Family can roll a political hand grenade in the form of an anti-abortion TV ad into American households on no less than Super Bowl Sunday for the full and desired effect of creating public discussion.
Worse, beyond the fact that CBS censors political speech, the company has no apparent problems making money off the general public’s strong interest in ‘marijuana’ as the network has established Marijuana Nation, an eye-ball sucking, archive-rich, comprehensive and well done webpage relating to cannabis found on the Internet (Ironically, CBS’ site competes with NORML and High Times’ general content for readers…).
There are numerous reasons why cannabis prohibition has lasted over 72-years, and when huge, mainstream media outlets (who control bill boards, radio and TV, etc…) pick and choose what organization’s free speech they support and those they don’t–recognizing that absent a vibrant and informed public discussion about needed public policy changes, like ending cannabis prohibition, those needed public policy changes take so much longer than they would organically absent the filter of mainstream, corporate-leaning mega media outlets.
Personally, I can only wonder what public discourse, with now even more corporate influence, is going to look like in America post the SCOTUS decision two weeks ago in Citizens United vs. Federal Election Commission.
I would call for a boycott, but CBS sucks so much already that I never watch.
CBS = Corporate Bullshit Station
Our country is almost over lol america i never really new ya. WE HAVE A SHORT TIME TO LEGALIZE WEED!!!!!
do what you can do make it happen be rediculous about much you talk about it with other people. when you find out that somebody doesn’t like it or is ignorant have well planned arguments for any of the main reasons people use to make your point clear and prove them wrong. Lets get hard core now. we can do it be annoying , ive changed my whole familys opinion and many others that i have talked with. the new world is upon us wake up do something like get high
I wonder how many beer ads on tv will be played during the SuperBowl? Funny how the media supports ads for an addictive/abusive substance.
No, don’t worry. They’ll allow commercials from the alcohol companies that glamorize liquor, but anything that is pro-cannabis !!!! forget about it.
I love how these prohibitionist compare cannabis to tobacco…
They say, “oh, it has the same carcinogens that are in tobacco.” Well Sir, tobacco kills 400 thousand people every year, where are the deaths from cannabis???
Or they say that the costs to society will far outweigh any benefit from taxation and regulation. Yet, there are no deaths from cannabis? Give me one name, or one person that is dying in a damn hospital because of “cannabis”. But you can go to any hospital and you can easily find numerous people that are dying directly because of alcohol, tobacco, and the big pharma opiate pills.
I’d say I would boycott CBS programing in retaliation, but CBS already has jack squat worth watching. Honestly, not one show and I cant say I was looking forward to the Super Bowl either.
For Christ sake, even Fox News has pro MJ programing in the Judge Napalitano show.
The Price is Wrong!
I suggest posting a complaint to CBS that they would run a highly controversial and political anti-abortion ad, but yet not allow NOML to run an ad on the CBS Super Screen. You can utilioze the Contact/Complaint dropdown on the CBS Web site. I’ve alteady sent MY complaint to them!
Forget NYC. I say next year, NORML & MPP & High Times all start like a co-fundraiser to raise money for a Super Bowl Ad… THAT would make an impact.
Did you ever think cannabis would be in direct competition with BEER COMMERICIALS and maybe the
beer industries have pulled some strings to do everything in their power to make sure that these ads don’t hit the air waves in anyway or form .
If cannabis were legal it would be in direct competition with the liquor industries.
THEY DON’T WANT ANY COMPETITION THAT MIGHT CAUSE THEM SOME BEER DRINKERS TO SLOW DOWN THEIR DRINKING.
A DROP OF 10% TO 20%IN SALES WOULD BE DISASTROUS FOR THEM. ( THEY WANT IT ALL )
I PUT NOTHING PASSED THESE PEOPLE.
IT’S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
IT’S THE AMERICAN WAY.
KEEP UP THE FIGHT!!!!!!
Write your views to CBS, and boycott. looks like im going to have to watch the Superbowl on ESPN.
honestly would it really matter if weed was legalized? this country would make so much money of it. to think our country could actually prosper with legal weed because no longer would stoners be confined to their homes unable to get jobs. no longer would our children have to suffer with run down old crappy schools we could build new ones. we could SO much just be legalizing weed. and they have proven time and time again that weed is harmless to adults..so really whats the big deal??? let us have our green.
This is not a democracy, this is a country run by money.
An educated people can be easily governed.
The greatest and noblest pleasure which men can have in this world is to discover new truths; and the next is to shake off old prejudices.
Don’t forget your great guns, which are the most respectable arguments of the rights of kings.
Frederick Lives!
Hate to burst your bubble, but the abortion issue is much more important then legalizing cannabis. Besides the pro-life message is more popular with Americans then legalizing cannabis, 40% want cannabis legal, 51% want abortion illegal.
[Editor’s note: So free speech depends on what topic is most popular? Guess you’re OK with corporate censorship. BTW…your numbers are wrong re support for cannabis legalization, 44%-52% support in most polls; 56% in California.]
Allen,
This is horrible. Is there anything that we can do to help at the HempCon2010 Convention and Medical Marijuana Show? We’re expecting 150,000 people. I believe that I can get the LA Convention Center to post it. I’m not 100% positive, but I am certainly willing to try. In addition, we can bring this up at our press conference on Thursday, February 18th, 2010. Please know that we support the National Office and want to do everything possible to help.
Kindest Regards,
Cheryl Shuman
Executive Director
Beverly Hills NORML90210.org
If they air a ad about cannabis prohibition, the alcohol pushers would just take their booze advertising money and go elsewhere. still catering to the fucking drunks, I see
I still remembered the anti-cannabis super bowl commercials. How political is that?!
Is there going to be another one?
And just an FYI about the FOF ad, abortion has been illegal in the Phillipines since 1930. Tebow’s Mother was in the Phillipines during pregnancy so she actually had no choice but to continue her pregnancy. The choice was made for her, not by her. Doctors & midwives who perform abortions in the Philippines can face 6 yrs in prison and can have their licences revoked. Women who receive abortions may be jailed 2-6 yrs. http://mobile.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feature/2010/01/28/super_bowl_ad/index.html
[Editor’s note: If what you write is correct what sense does it make for Focus of the Family to spend $3 million, and for CBS to take so much heat, for a meaningless ad if there was no CHOICE but to carry the child to term per order of the government?
The ad is an anti-abortion ad, which is a political ad.]
I remembered the good old days when corporate thieves and dictators hated CBS.
Don’t people still get (drymouth) when smoking pot? I’ll bet beer sales would go UP 25% if MJ were made legal!
Talk about a bunch of crap. Marijuana Nation I took was atleast a good thing for a media outlet to temp to continually cover the movement but now I see how they truly stand on the subject. Well,hopefully other billboard around the area of Times Square might not be such cowards to put the billboard up.
Hey, just wanted to make a quick comment, coming from someone who a) used to intern for NORML, and b) is a current fontographer:
Do not EVER use the font Comic Sans, EVER (exception: first-grade teachers). It looks VERY unprofessional. I seriously hope you were not giong to use that on the actual billboard.
[Russ responds: Stephen, that graphic was a quick mock-up I did as we were discussing the details of that ad over a conference call. It most certainly is not the way the final product would have looked. Comic Sans just happened to be the font that was active in Adobe Fireworks as I drew it up. However, I am pleased someone with an eye such as yours and a passion for fontography would notice and offer the constructive criticism. (Personally, I like Comic Sans for cartoon balloons, though… maybe it’s my tribute to Jack Kirby and Stan Lee.) — “R”R]
cannabistv…that was exactly what i thought! i won’t be watching the stupid-bowl, either…
I hate to sound crazy while I sit here in my tinfoil hat but shit like this definitely makes me believe there is a New World Order.
There is the simple fact that we live in and as Americans are proud of and support our consumer nation and the creation of a global economy and a new class of citzen; true untouchables the super rich class – Dick Cheney while hunting shoots some oen in the face, accident, none the less had any other individual done the same thing they be facing assault with a deadly weapon, etc etc, accident or not.
It is sad but we live in a Nation of SUPER consumers, impulse buying, latest iphone, super tech, I want’ers; who over leverage credit, which alone the credit card industry is worse the racketeering id rather get a loan shark.
Bottom line, CBS is a company that is owned by people, but controlling interests are owned (sorry dont know the facts i am sure some one can fill it in) by another company thats huge and owns other media outlets, like News Corp. Which is owned by the mega rich who own other companies that sell us everything.
Free speech is not what they care about, its the reproductions of Marijuana becoming legal, which add withstanding, it will be or it will be civil war. There is no logical defense for continued prohibition. Even its worst side effect, possible cancer of the lungs from smoking, is solved by a vaporizer ,tinctures, edibles.
Legal weed would create revenu but it would also destroy certain areas of the courts, black market, jails, etc etc etc. Private intrests, money, ‘free market’, democracy = Big Brother USA
@CannabisTV
Haha yeah you have a point… I know that CBS had CSI but do they do anything else?
It’s unfortunate that NORML could not secure the ad space in Time Square but I look forward to seeing how that advertising budget will be used elsewhere.
@Cindy
I also registered a complaint with CBS. Here is the link for easy access!
http://www.cbs.com/info/user_services/fb_global_form.php
For an excellant analysis on this topic check out the Dave Zarin interview that was aired on the Friday February 5 edition of Democracy Now. You can watch it or read it at democracynow.org
Seems typical of the corporate world, meanwhile they are the some one’s saying that we are fascists and dictate corporate fascism? Absurdity at_its_best.
Everyone is taking sides and yet this is not a civil war? Okay, let’s not call it a revolution or a civil war. Let’s instead call it a civil rights war, or a tax revolt, or any number of other things besides what they clearly choose not to see. I can sit here playing word games all day long. But Bullsh*t is Bullsh*t is Bullsh*t, and this wreaks of it. It must be nice to throw around contracts however you want without thinking about the consequences.
This isn’t about my “well being”. If CBS was concerned about my well being, they wouldn’t support those same evangelical lobbyists who go off and deny every other method of reform, such as health care and anything else you can think of that directly benefits the people.
Because we, “The People”, are actually not people at all. We are actually just an moldy clump of sh*t.
Fortunately I got a lot of plastic bags and we can make us some sh*t bombs.
I happen to be educated too, and I trust my sense a lot more than their corporatocratic nonsense. They can fight as much as they want, it won’t make any difference because if a business goes against the grain and denies populist legislation, then they are committing career suicide; thus why our economy is in the state it is in today. But they’ll keep on pretending as they are, in truth I hope they do. It’s not enough to simply “change” things. Brutality is required to enforce that such fascist lunacy is never tolerated ever again.
CBS: China is recruiting. Bon Voyage.
It is still a mystery to me why the alcohol and tobacco industry, at its corporate level, isn’t LEADING the effort to legalize the responsible adult use of cannabis as they would, obviously, be the largest commercial benefactors….hmmmm!
It’s always about the money! I also think that ALL organizations and people campaigning for reform need to band together. We are all pursuing the same goal. We need to persue this TOGETHER. We cannot expect too much if we continue to think that someone else will do it. We are someone else and there is strength in numbers. It was outlawed a few months after I was born. 73 yrs is long enough…
Its really no surprise. Its very frustrating to people because these news stations will act as if they want to see cannabis legalized or what ever. Its just an act to keep you happy. If you don’t think our government controls the media, you’d better wake up. I mean look at us! We fight with people over this wonderful plant, its been going on for years.. We are being distracted by “legalizing marijuana”…they could really care less, but its a good way to keep us out of their business by making a law most will break and disagree with. We have had 10 years of war, for what? Terrorist we think are real. Don’t be surprised when our government forms its North American Union with Mexico and Canada. Oh and they will try to own Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan. And we are being tricked to think its right, heck we even go die for their cause! TURN OFF YOUR TV! DON”T DRINK THE TAP WATER! Don’t obey and don’t conform. Resist!
Forgot to add that they are not only distracting us with this crap they are making tons of money off us. Just another reason for us to dismantle the Illuminati.
I agree…CBS has very little regular programming worth watching. Gotta love the Masters, March Madness, etc., but those are seasonal. I vote for Change…the channel.
Thanks for the Citizens United case. When I was fighting for custody of my son 2 years ago I was arguing with my county-appointed PD that I have a right to write about the entire experience on the blog, including anything my son shared about his experiences. The judge hated the blog and demanded total “confidentiality” from me, the party being prosecuted. I told my PD that I certainly would not stop writing, but I did leave out names after that, even though it was “news” and particularly for other disabled or single parents who use cannabis, home school and occasionally get challenged for marching to the beat of a different drummer.
I found it ludicruous at the time (2008) that a Childrens Court, mission of which is to protect DEFENSELESS CHILDREN would want to order a mother to stop publishing on the internet and threaten to withhold the child until she stops. I was almost hoping he would cite me for contempt so i could fight that in LA!
There were other 1st amendment issues, no case against me and they eventually gave the kid back and hoped I would not publicize it, which I have not. Yet. My son is close to 15 and wants to start his OWN site. He’s not afraid to talk to police anymore. I observed him speaking up quite articulately the last time he needed to defend his mother’s parenting. People do occasionally spread malicious lies, mostly when they are scared of change….Obama on Times Square endorsing cannabis might be more political controversy than Obama wants right now. Citizens United would probably be NORML’s ticket to force CBS’s hand, but do you really want a court order clearing the way for a message CBS already thinks is badly timed? Is there somewhere else you can put it?
I am still not sure to what extent LA came after me because of my cannabis RX, I’ve always had an RX and it was never an issue when i lived up North. DA did make a big dramatic point of “mom’s medical marijuana” at first hearing getting scowl out of childrens’ judge.
A few months after this case ended we left LA and before we settled in the place we’re at now we had one property manager serve us with a “3 day notice” based on my “violation of federal marijuana law.” when i told landlord last year his notice is illegal he began calling 911 and making false police reports, one of them about cannabis. He was then sued for defamation, that case is still pending.
I showed local PD my RX, they verified and that was that, but they did say landlord has the right in CA to kick out pot smokers even with an RX if he does not personally like it. I disagreed, we moved anyway because the place was temporary, and our move was about 1 month sooner than it would have been due to his position on cannabis. That is how it worked out, but we of course did not know at the time we would be able to move and at the time our housing options were extremely limited due to my need for quiet/high speed wireless and not much $$ at the time. By the time I met that guy I had come to the conclusion that my RX is my business not his and I had never used it in front of him or in any common area because I was told he is “anti” in other words, i tried to be respectful of him, he was not respectful of me/us.
I do believe CA DFEH filed suit against this landlord for discrimination, but it was on the basis of his noise-making and my known intolerance for noise, not cannabis, DFEH stated to me at the time, “we let local authorities deal with medical marijuana.”
My point is that even in LA 2 years ago there were still parents getting kids taken away “because good parents don’t smoke pot.” and even last year there was a Southern CA landlord who after receiving rent and having no other complaints, kicked us out with insufficient notice due to his hatred of the herb…I did assert my rights, but the common sense of cannabis has not drifted down from the North to the South quite yet. There are still quite a few neighborhoods in CA unfortunately where one can assert rights, but it’s good to have a new place picked out as soon as one asserts them….change in some areas is slow…attitudes…acceptance, and that is how I see CBS/Times Square…you are asking the main stream to change now because that seems logical to you and I, but they’re not ready yet. NJ just legalized, NY is not far behind with ME being legal, try again next year!
BTW, nice flash presentation…money does grow, but not on trees…bushes.
wow, alcohol kills millions every year, yet they will support that?
they support the killing of our troops and alcoholism…
wow, guess i won’t be watching the super bowl or cbs…
How about compiling a list of CBS advertisers, send a letter to them stating your intention to boycott their products if they continue advertizing on CBS if they continue to suppress free speech.
What are the phone numbers to call in and complain?
What is the address to write in and complain?
What is the email address and where is the form letter to send in to complain?
P.S. to last, we do have cannabis TV in Southern California, which is slowly accepting cannabis as medicine…it’s not a medical show, it’s on the sleeziest channel on Friday night from 10:30-11 (time I usually do not turn on TVs personally!) but it IS progress and it is informative. The format is obviously a compromise between the local cable station and the people, but it’s 30 minutes of cable TV and the show can already be seen in thousands of CA homes, including the areas that need the most education. It would be lovely to see a similar 30 min spot from a serious medical point of view.
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Boycott Survivor on CBS. It’s still pretty popular.Let them feel the pain.
Legalization could potentially cut down on other addictive behavior. The cannabinoid system is already wired into animal brains. It is a calming system. Alcohol is more excititory and definately impicated in neuron death, at high doses. Both the alcohol and pharmaceutical I dusties fear competition. The current enforcement tactics are only making “weed” more popular, especially amount youth. A r
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A social reality shift is needed. To protect ” youth” from the current legal system. Especially minority youth, who are the biggest victims! Guilty until proven innocent! (added by Mobile using Mippin)
So tired of CBS. If we all make a make a complaint to cbs using our emails. they might actually make our story upheld. Think about it enouph complaints= Another news story for the corporate bullshit service!
I havn’t watched tv since it went digital, and I have a converter box. We just live too far away to recieve anything. I will never pay for garbage tv.
Why can’t NORML buy politicians under the supreme cort ruling? It’s legal now after all. I’m stoll pissed at Youtube for not asking the number one question when they interviewed tie prez the other day.
I love this. Every time they deny reform advertising, about 10-20 times the earned media is made back. A fellow from Release told me that when they rejected the “Nice People Take Drugs” campaign it didn’t cost him a cent and he just ripped up the invoice. NORML just saved a lot of money and got more exposure than the billboard ever could.
Cannabis bigotry: the best force multiplier a pot activist can have.
It’s obvious that the people in power don’t care about the quality of life of the average american. It’s alright to encourage women in bad economic circumstances to have babies that they can’t afford and encourage women whose pregnancies have become a severe health hazard to carry it to term. But to suggest that we could help pay down deficits while increasing personal liberty by legalizing a harmless plant that brings comfort and quality of life to many tax-paying americans is too radical an idea to even give ad space to. It doesn’t make any sense to me. Am I the only one recognizing this twisted state of affairs?
Too Political:
Their excuse for not doing it is the main reason it should be done. Getting information out to the public should not be about support and personal gain, it should be about getting information, all information, out to the public so we are informed enough to make our own decisions.
Maybe our media giant needs some regulation…
Katie Couric will do a live interview with President Obama this Sunday during CBS’ Super Bowl pregame coverage. What should she ask him?
You know what she should ask. Heres her email;
couriconline@cbsnews.com
Millions of Americans will be drinking a lot of beer tommorrow during the game. They will also be smoking a lot of ganja and eating a lot of munchies. Maybe they need to be reminded of that fact.
I have an idea. Are there any hackers out there? Got the idea?
Can you say “ABC” or maybe “NBC” Support those who support us!
I’m no lawyer but Keith Stroup is. Fire up those lawyer engines and go to work Keith! Make a big public spectacle out of their denial. Sounds like discrimination to me. A big public, legal buzz would be just as effective an advertisement.
I also think a public “boycott” would be effective too but we have to be noisy about it. NBC would love to cover a story like this!
CBS is in the bag, on the take, bought and paid for. The only freedom CBS is concerned with is its freedom to continue making money, pushing more government lies by avoiding the truth. CBS gives journalism and the free press a bad name.
In response to Cindy Lou…I just looked at the CBS website and cannot find the dropdown you mentioned. The only dropdown and that’s under shows. Please be more specific.
Here’s a starting point for us!
If you follow the link in the article to the CBS news blog Marijuana Nation a survey pops up.
I just rated them a ” 0 ” and explained that it was due to their denial of NORML’s advertisement.
Go tell them yourselves!
Ya know what I’m looking forward to? The day when Cannabis is legal and stations accept advertising. THEN, I hope that reformers remember who their detractors were and halt any flow of ad funds to them. They cut us out of the mix today, we cut them out tomorrow. Never forget who your enemies were. They were “enemies” for a reason.
america could benefit from legalization of cannabis and also allow farmers to raise hemp products for consumption. I drink hemp milk,eat hemp powder and hemp breakfast cereal. donate to MPP and Norml,also start buying hemp food products. overwhelm the son of a bitches with our wallet. the greedy pricks will smell money in the air and legalize. canadian farmers are making tons of money growing hemp. fight with your wallet as the weapon!
No conspiricy here folks, just keep moving along and keep the chatter down.
I’ve been around pot all my life (65) and have never been in any trouble with the law. I smoke my weed, listen to good music or watch a good movie and never at one time do I want to go out to bars and cause any trouble. After I smoke I’m toooooo laid back and that’s the way I like it. More people should be that way especially our goverment!
just sent CBS an e-mail and let them know they DROPPED THE BALL.
You guys have got to come out with some kind of hollywood production that will make the public sympathize for you.
2 good examples are the movie “Bambi”, after watching that you couldn’t dare tell your 4 year old daughter you were really about to go hunting.
And another is Uncle Tom’s Cabin about slaves pre civil war, this book really started the abolitionist movement in the North.
Lesson to be learned, maybe you can’t pay for ads, but you can produce a movie or a book, do that instead
I am happy to see a vigorous intelligent dialogue!
Just get news/entertainment from non network sources…netflix has TV without commercials, sports can be seen on dedicated channels…who really NEEDS network TV?
“Cannabis bigotry: the best force multiplier a pot activist can have.”
precisely 🙂
i find in my personal life that most hypocracy eventually gets exposed, including my own…exposure is healthy…it is what makes our society free.
They can’t run our ad, because it’s “too political”, yet they can run a 30 second ad during the Superbowl against a woman’s choice to have an abortion? And that’s somehow NOT “too political”?! Sheesh, how about a little consistency in your bigotry, CBS? You suck.
The “Money Tree” ad looked reasonable, but I can understand why they would reject the one featuring the Obama quote and an implication that he could be a criminal today. The message is true, but you can’t argue that it isn’t blatantly political. If CBS was willing to give you a contract deal, then why not try an ad that isn’t so polarizing next time and see if they go for it?
From what I understand about the FOF ad, it’s more about the message that Tebow’s mom chose to keep him even when she was encouraged to discontinue the pregnancy. Why is this a bad thing? Even if you’re pro-choice, there’s no reason that you must also be pro-abortion. It’s possible to encourage women to give pregnancy a chance while also recognizing that it’s ultimately their choice. Haven’t seen the ad yet, but I’d be surprised if they made the leap to the blatantly political statement that abortions should be illegal.
Regarding Tebow’s mom and the Philippines, presumably she could’ve flown back to the U.S. for the procedure, being that she’s an American citizen and all.
Regarding Citizens United, NORML would be hurt worse than CBS if the ruling went the other way. CBS, being a media corporation, is exempt from the law anyway; it can run political messages right up to election day if it wants to. NORML, on the other hand, would be prevented by federal law from funding the Obama ad near a national election–even if CBS was willing to accept the ad.
Remember, CU is a small, non-profit political advocacy organization, too; what’s good for them is good for NORML.
Hi Allen,
You misspelled hypocrisy.
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I think NORML should establish an online petition to boycott CBS in response to the denial of this ad.
SAFER did the same against Starbucks when they appeared to sponsor an anti-marijuana law enforcement group, and Starbucks almost immediately withdrew its sponsorship.
If NORML acts now, not only will they likely get fast results, but they might also get a lot of media attention before the Superbowl, and that will have CBS shacking in their boots.
Pro Sports is one of the most appalling “past times” on this planet and parents tell their kids to be like a pro sports star who makes millions but reality is that pro stars are shooting drugs,dog fights,guns,gambling,prostitution,underage sex…I could go on and on.
We need to get rid of the “Old Thinking” people, you know em ,the ones who start out with “back in my day”.
One of the main reasons for it to be illegal is CONTROL and POWER, that’s what we as Americans have been trained to strive for is control and power whether it be at school at work or with our children.
We tell our children to be fair and to share and to treat everyone as equals and then we tell them we are their boss because we are grownups and they are just know nothing children, the power trip goes on and on.
Its so bullshit, i for one am tired of it and i am going to make it known that i am for cannibis as a patient, no lie cbs is bogus look what they did to conon and david letterman, what assholes, legalize pot, we can do it, all these people trying to stop it will fail. i for one am boycotting cbs its run like the mafia.
just more proof…..our media at all levels…..is controlled by corporate right wing church money
I support NORML (financially), but I’m glad CBS rejected that sign. NORML, you can do much better than that — that sign was amateur hour.
[Russ responds: Ondi, the ad they rejected was the animated one of the cannabis leaves with dollar signs. The 2nd ad, the “amateur hour” sign, should look amateur because it was a rough draft created by me… an amateur. It was never submitted to CBS and that is not at all what the final version would have looked like, since the pros who did the falling leaves one would’ve done the “Barry the Drug Criminal” one.]
CBS is running an anti abortion ad that they worked on at their Superbowl. As long as old money rules the media, like CBS’s Sumner Redstone, we are doomed to conservative bias. America is supposed to be equal and free, but that’s gone long ago! In LA our dispensaries are under attack.
All of the MSM (TV, Newspaper) are rotten and evil and they’ll only do what’s in their best interests, News stories that are completely fabricated and full of erroneous facts, and they will push those stories across this country as the truth. “Fair and Balanced” more like “Their Lies and Unbalanced”
These MSM corps, are truely _Cannabis bigots_.
The current federal Cannabis laws would not be valid any longer, if the status/classification of Marijuana is changed from the schedule III drug. As the medical Doctors and Researchers have found multiple medical uses for this wonderful plant.
So, if the MSM is refusing to reveal the facts, then MSM is in fact a bunch of Cannabis Bigots! This type of behaviour should be exposed, and people should hopefully start to understand the MSM NEWS is NOT helping anyone except for their rich benefactors. The CBS’s stand is the same as the other’s, there is no difference. Changing the channels will still get you to the same bigoted information from these corrupted news organizations.
The politician’s practice their Cannabis bigotry constantly too, or else it would be legalized by this time.
@ Editor
Exactly, what sense does it make? I guess it’s worth it for FOF to rely on the misinformed. (that abortion is illegal there and if she had indeed wanted one, it would have had to have been obtained illegally) They (FOF) are taking advantage of Tim Tebow imho and I’m pretty disgusted by the whole thing. I’ve been researching FOF Canada for a blog post and I gotta say they creep me out on a whole new level.
wow…Noam Chomsky was right….
I won’t be watching CBS going forward. Yes, i know it won’t have any impact to them, but I owe it to my principles. Kinda sucks because i liked Big Bang Theory a lot.
so long CBS…
Anyone contact the ACLU?
How many Viagra ads will be shown during the SB to fat drunken f*rts who can’t get it up? And couldn’t find a willing partner even if they could…
#58 You are definitely right on that ,its just getting enough people to do it, i know i don’t buy beer anymore. If enough people did that the Gov along with the Real poison companys (beer)would see we r not screwing around
The airways belong to us. They’re leased to commercial broadcasters who must serve the public interest.
CBS is not serving the public interest. Perhaps a flood of email and phone calls to the FCC will make a difference
Ahhh… I certainly hope that CBS denies all those political ads that will be streaming in now, thanks to our highly politicized SCOTUS and their recent decision.
There is no truth in the mainstream media. It is another arm of control of the masses. You WILL buy the approved Wall Street products and LIKE IT! Every last dollar in this farce of a “free market” economy is meant to be controlled and funneled into “approved” political campaigns.
I was appalled to recently learn that my state does not have an Iniative and Referendum process in our constitution. It has been opposed by DFL Labor Unions and the Newspapers locally, along with “family values” groups. The one way that citizens can introduce and vote upon issues important to the people denied by those who supposedly practice “free speech.” What does this say about these groups/special interests? All about control, control, control.
The decision at CBS to not run NORML’s ad may have just been good business. Count the number of pharmaceutical ads during prime time tonight. If the pharmaceutical companies are willing to pay our congress to keep marijuana schedule 1 and illegal,they sure wouldn’t mind telling an advertiser not to run legalization ads.
My question for Couric “Please ask President Obama why,with 14 states and the US Justice Department recognizing marijuana as a medicine,is it still listed as a schedule 1 drug.”
To CBS, it doesn’t matter whether or not cannabis and hemp are useful in our society, what they do or who they help. What matters is money. CBS is charging about 2.6-2.8 million for a 30 second superbowl ad. The anti-abortion ad thats being played payed 3 million for their spot. It’s only a few hundred thousand extra, and being a right-wing “family friendly” group might help, but the bottom line is that they paid more than necessary to get the ad run. So NORML, perhaps next time you go for that billboard slot in times square you bump what you pay up and see what happens?
[Editor’s note: Unfortunately, unlike the socially conservative Focus on the Family (which taps into a religious network for funding), no drug policy reform group, including NORML, can afford to purchase a single Super Bowl ad.
The supporters and donors of drug policy reforms to date have not been able or willing to donate ‘Super Bowl’ ad money.]
I can believe that a Corporation has the right to post on it’s property what it wants and when it wants for capital gain and it’s (stock holders, some may be “pot” smokers); but legally CBS doesn’t have a leg to stand on—-be strong in your convictions and yes the public will have a say over all of this B.S.
Too political. CannaBiS-CBS. That’s their story and they’re sticking to it. Quite right about the anti-abortion ad. Roger Ailes or Rupert Murdoch, I would expect that from. Just goes to show that Noam Chomsky is right about how the government and its sycophants.
Maybe norml could buy ad time on RFDTV. The president is Patrick Gottsch. The advertising department,Mike Hansen,agriculture advertisement sales,email- mike@rfdtv.com,Jeff StevensSVP of advertising sales email-jeff@rfdtv.com. They have around 13 million viewers. Couldn’t hurt.
Note to Allen St. Pierre: You misspelled “hypocrisy.”
If the people controlling the billboards won’t give us what’s due, we may have to go “civil disobedience” on their ass and start unfurling large, cloth billboards down the sides of very tall buildings, á la Greenpeace.
Also, please don’t blame Citizens United. That case was decided correctly in accordance with the Constitution and actually protects and expands the rights of groups like NORML (MPP, DPA, ACLU, NRA, etc.) to cooperate and petition politicians right before an election.
More speech is better. The truth will out.
[Editor’s note: Pre-Citizen’s United, drug policy reform and civil rights already enjoyed full First Amendment rights and could donate to political candidates directly. The problem in many people’s mind is that the massively precedent overturning 5-4 decision extends ‘human’ rights to corporations. SCOTUS went out of its way to hear the case twice to extend human rights to corporations.
Cannabis consumers and freedom lovers beware. Because of the majority’s overt want to further empower corporations over individuals (who, btw, unlike corporations, can actually vote and create the political landscape) in Citizen’s United, now an anti-cannabis corporation like drug testing companies, cannabis ‘re-hab’ centers, bail bondsmen, high tech security equipment companies, unscrupulous criminal defense lawyers, private prison corporations can now all spend tens of millions of dollars directly trying to defeat any forward thinking, Constitutional loving politicians who want to end the debacle of 73-years of cannabis prohibition.
These corporations will outspend citizen-activists 100:1 or 1,000:1 to keep the profits coming in from prohibition.
Extending corporations–which can not feel, die, breathe, eat, sleep, experience joy, love, think, sweat, cry–human status with rights and privileges under the Constitution, to spend unlimited amount of corporate resources directly into political campaigns is both bizarre and wrong. It’s not as if corporations pre-Citizen’s United didn’t already have myriad ways to influence the outcome of elections with their access to tens of millions in cash.]
Well enough people have already said that they’ll show beer commercial after beer commercial (Coors Light and Miller Light, of course)
I’m sick of seeing all the penis pill commercials!
I think most Americans are like my overweight creep of a brother. As long as there is plenty of beer,food and football on televison.H
There is a financial side to this that can’t be denied: corporate sponsors vs. the rest of the advertising community.
If a radio talk-show host is ranting about evil corporations and does it with more intelligence and competence than your average spittle-chomping populist those sponsoring corporations are going to look a lot harder at their return on the advertising dollar. Unless it is wildlly successful -IOW the listening public buys products advertised and basically ignores well-thought arguments against corporatism by the non – profits. In that case, conservatives’ posts about the power of the almighty advertising dollar are valid. They will advertise anyways. However lefties would likely change their spending habits for example by reasoned arguments against Wal-Mart selling products manufactured by crypto-slave labor. In that case the more competent lefty talk show host will almost literally kill the goose that laid the golden egg. But his populist, hot-headed counterpart who just happens to never mention corporate scumbaggery gets the $$$ source advertising dollars.
The other financial side to this has to blame the left I’m afraid. I listen to the sensibles on the local station and enjoy it when they go after the corporations but they are too quiet and fail too often to play up the real source of our prosperity: the small and mid-size business sector. Nor do they say much about the important role of private non-profits in our economy. Instead they play to the FDR-left and apologize way too much for federalized socialism. In essence condemning monopoly power in the private sector while excusing monopoly provision of services in the public sector.
Long rant short lefties need to trumpet the small and middle-sized businesses as well as the non-profits. Small, medium and non-profit’s are aching to be heard. They would advertise with lefty talk shows in a New York minute once they know the hosts are on their side but against the too big to fail corporations and federalized socialism .
[Russ responds: Truth Doctor, you just summed up my two-year career as a lefty talk radio host. I was too anti-corporate for the righties (and too-lots-of-things for the righties), but too pro-capitalism-at-the-small-and-medium=scale for the lefties.
Thom Hartmann has some incredible books on the Founding Fathers and their mistrust of corporations. Our original states had strong control over corporate charters. Corporations couldn’t own other corporations. Only after 1868’s Santa Clara decision did corporations become the golems they are today.
In today’s world, especially post-Citizens United, corporations are considered “persons” with every right you and I have, except the right to vote. However, unlike you and I, corporations are immortal, so they have no concern about health care. Corporations can own other corporations, unlike you and I who cannot own other people. Corporations have no need to breathe or eat or drink, so they have no concern about air, food, or water quality. Corporations occupy no real physical body in one particular location, so they have no concern about their local traffic, crime, or economy.
So you and I and CBS all have the same equal rights. We can all spend as much money as we want on an election and on candidates and on attack ads. Except you and I have to go to work eight hours a day to raise our money and we have to spend some of it on our food, clothing, shelter, medicine, transportation, and families, while CBS gets to accumulate a fortune over decades through the combined labor of thousands of us and the dozens of corporate slaves it owns. And then, even if we did all combine our human efforts together to raise thousands to get 15 seconds of “free speech”, CBS can just say “no”.
If we can force corporations to be our actual equals – they have 70-to-100-year lifespans, they must have a physical presence in the USA and pay taxes at the rates we do, they suffer and die if their food, water, and air are poisoned, they cannot own other “persons”, etc. – then I’m all for them having the same free speech rights as we do.
I think if we time-machined back to 1789 and proposed it to Jefferson, Madison, and the rest that large merchants like the British East India Company should be given all the rights being outlined in the Bill of Rights, they would have laughed us out of the room. The very founding of this country was a tax rebellion against a wealthy monarchy forcing us to pay a large corporation!]
Can’t wait for marijuana to be legal so we can smoke and forget the many uses of cannabis that would ensure an anarchist state…. big business and big government will ONLY legalize it once they can find a way to keep it under control.
A practically free source of food, fiber, fuel, constructon material AND medicine??? Power would become so decentralized that really anybody with some small scale equipment, land and the know how could be COMPLETELY autonomous from the society in which we find ourselves, but then nobody will be able to tell anyone else what to do….. of course anybody with any real say in this country would soon be out of a job and powerless, and why would they want that?
I think most Americans are like my overweight creep of a brother. As long as there is plenty of beer,food and football on televison.He could care less about about American civil rights and liberties. After watching an episode of Marijuana Inc. he told me that is against the legalization of marijuana because a bunch of niggers will come here and break into my house.This guy needs his chicken coop cleaned for saying that.And so do the prohibitionists.Sorry about that ladys and gentlemen From William in Idaho state of ignorance.
[Russ responds: William, as a native Idahoan, I feel your pain and know too well the ignorance and hatred of which you speak. I do wonder where your brother in Idaho thinks the African-Americans are going to come from to break into his house… the Boise State football team? Last I checked, it wasn’t as if the Soul Train Awards are relocating to the Idaho Center arena anytime soon…]
Well to truly understand this problem one must look at the owners of CBS. They are the exact same people who own the Federal Reserve, and this may come as a surprise but the exact same people who own CBS also own FOX and numerous other stations. No joke, you can research this and the truth will make you gag. That’s right, the media is owned by bankers. Kinda makes sense now doesn’t it? Might I also add that this is the same group of people who also own the FBI, CIA, DEA, probably the biggest challenge to the legalization movement. Ofcorse they are not gonna let NORML post a giant pro pot billboard! Marijuana legalization is one of the greatest threats to the global elite and their dream of a New World Order. In this new world order, americans are executed for smoking a joint. Such is the practice in some third world countries. Our government gives money to some of these countries in exchange for harsh drug laws. Look up the drug laws in Singapore, and then look up Singapore’s history and you’ll see the CIA connection. Oh, did I mention that the CIA recycles confiscated drugs back out into the streets? And they’ve been caught doing it! You could say that the CIA controls the drug cartels behind the scene. The war on drugs in an illusion. Our government has in a nutshell become the Mafia. Norml won’t tell you this info because it’s too risky. Me on the other hand I have nothing to lose. I encourage anyone who reads this to start researching the New World Order because unless people wake up and do something soon, we will become one of those countries who execute our citizens for smoking pot. Our military is already training for these scenarios in other countries. Norml, if you want the general public to wake up to the end of prohibition, you might wanna start exposing the real idiots behind prohibition. Y? Well, what has history shown us about conspiracy theories? In the end, most of them turn out to be true.
There is only one way to draw BIG attention to the cause of legalizing cannabis and that is
#1for NORMAL to put a list online of each NORMAL chapter along with e-mail in each state.
#2 each chapter contact all other chapters and arrange a date whereby all members meet in each in their own state with signs and whatever on that specific date time and location, nation wide.
#3 Get media coverage if you can. No violence, no hippy clothes, just be clean cut. All of the above is a real turnoff for normal voting folk.
#4 And last but not least call, write or email your states governors office giving them your name and address and THIS TAKES GUTS FOLKS…TELLING THEM TO COME AND GET YOU CAUSE YOU SMOKE!!!
My husband and I did and nothing ever became of it. If you overkill a law you will bend it till it breaks! They cannot arrest us all. Here in our city, the coffers are empty and they are telling the authorities not to arrest smokers as it costs too much to bring them to trial. OVERLOAD THE PHONE SYSTEM, THE EMAIL SYSTEM AND ANY OTHER SYSTEM YOU CAN THINK OF AND LET THE OTHER CHAPTERS KNOW OF IT SO THEY CAN SEND THE MESSAGE OUT.
If you sincerely believe in this cause then go for it as it cannot fail. Otherwise shut up and go home with your tails between your legs!
Marijuana will remain a controlled substance as long as the FED is left to run rampant upon the constitution of the United States of America and the republic which it is supposed to represent.
The FED (Federal Reserve System, the ass-biters who print our money with NOTHING backing it, except the good faith and credit of the American People, i.e. our income tax dollars) controls the United Nations. The united nations controls the government of the United States. The FED is controlled by the Council on Foreign Relations, which is a front organization for the Bilderburg Group which is one of the first line propaganda spreading fronts for the BIG banksters who are behind ALL wars since at least the Napolionic conflicts from around 1800 to 1815 or so. These banksters own Bernanke, Geithner and all upper level FED chiefs.
These big banksters are, in part, Rockefeller, Rothschild and their minions. The CIA (alCIAda, the muslims who are supposedly the guys who flew those planes into the World Trade Center), FBI, Interpol, and other alphabet soup “government” organizations who cause all the wars that take place everytime any people in any country anywhere in the world make efforts to take control of their own country back from the banksters, are the recipients of the hidden funds that are garnered from the fact that our favorite medicine, pastime, libation, plant is still classified, along with all substances that allow one’s mind to float free and to commune with God and nature, you know, psylocibin, magic mushrooms, LSD there are a lot of mind expanding substances, all of which seem to be considered too dangerous for the general public to use or experiment with, while at the same time the governhment’s alphabet soup organizations freely use and distribute this stuff at will for whatever nefarious purpose they can come up with.
I know this is beginning to sound as if I am rambling, but, there is a point but, so much information that is is hard to boil down in concise bits.
Onto the reason pot remains controlled, along with those other things, (for purposes of brevity, I will call all government alphabet soup enforcement organizations, CIA) is that by having them remain in a status where they are illegal, thus controlled, thus beyond congressional scrutiny, it that by being beyond control, they can be mass produced, mass marketed, distributed through CIA channels to whomever will distribute them and remain quiet as to where they are coming from and provide the CIA with incredibly large sums of cash to use for whatever black operation(s) they feel will best serve the function of scaring the public, in whichever part of the world where the people are developing a spine and are beginning to stand up to New World Order’s (NWO’s) plans to gradually implement ever more restrictive government policies that look incredibly like socialism.
The more restrictive the governmental powers that can be put in place the more power the NWO is able to steal from the people where these policies have been implemented. The more authority the NWO is able to steal from the people, the more restrictive laws they are able to put into place. The more restrictive laws that are put in place, the more power they are able to steal. Eventually, the people of the nation in question, right now they are working really hard to do this here in the good old US of A, find themselves being disarmed, rounded up and placed in places where they will no longer have any rights, no authority of their own and will be told what to do, when, how, where and with whom to do it.
This is not a situation I wish to be a part of. I am, or so I tell myself, a free man who is able to come and go and do whatever I wish. But, there are limits even on what I am able to do, limits based on law, based on the amount of money I have to spend on whatever it is I wish to spend it on, which also restricts how much I can move about, where I can go, who I can see, what I can do. This is the same for all of us, every where, the only time we have is right now to defeat the New World Order and their dastardly plans to rule the world.
To some this may sound like the ramblings of some whacked out retard or something, I wish that were true. We are at a turning point in history, we can stand up and resist the NWO, resisting will result in victory for the side of freedom, or, we can go along to get along and all become slaves to the New World Order.
I will stand as a free man, or die trying.
Long live the Republic.
Cool, ride the lost support train like Kellogg and dwindle. I mean seriously look at CBS’s ratings. Now they will drop even further, just like Kellogg’s profit!
Just a short time ago I made a personal reformation, and that was to never drink alcohol again until I had a choice of what recreational substance* I chose to consume. I don’t care if it takes 25 years. As we’re all well aware, the financial grip the conservative (beer pounding) hypocritical corps won’t yield control to the public.
It’s up to the public to make a stand, NORML is here to guide us and inform us. It has to come from individual citizens. And the way to make change is to inform others besides the already true freedom . Talk to others about cannabis prohibition – convince them of the cannabis cause. Every repeated talking point ever devised is our arsenal.
This isn’t news to anyone here of course. Just a bit of a rant….
I am going to begin voicing my position on cannabis in a multitude of ways. Fortunately (and unfortunately) I’m up in Canada. However, our NORML group does not seem to be quite as politically active as the US’s.
I would also like to agree with a couple of posters in this thread that the billboard, although a strong clear message present – was just TOO hard and clean for a country full of religious, traditional conservatives. I would suggest a billboard with a clear message but take the Obama aspect out of it. I saw everywhere he said “Of course I inhaled, that was the point.”; it seems just too interjectional in our efforts of reform.
Perhaps a slogan such as “IS IT REALLY A DRUG IF IT GROWS NATURALLY?”. I would suggest a message of taking the ‘DRUG’ connotation out of the picture and adapting a composure of medicinal, natural and non-harmful.
I’m not fully aware of all the campaigning that has been done since (37?), but make alcohol, tobacco and harmful substances out to be what they truly are. I’m just talking outloud, as I am aware this is and has been occurring since initial prohibition.
This is actually my first comment on this site, having been just a lurker for a long time. But it feels good to increase my involvement! And have enjoyed reading the many supportive and positive comments from other readers. I would also like to commend the NORML staff for their efforts and give props for just the simple fact they respond to the variety of challenging and helpful notes people leave after each article!
Remain informative and respectful!
Here is the place you can complain. It is quick and easy!
http://www.cbs.com/info/user_services/fb_global_form.php
Hi all! Linda asked where I found to leave feedback to CBS. The only place I located was their feedback box. Link posted here (better than nothing!) ~ http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/feedback/fb_news_form.shtml?tag=ftr
Thats it! CBS sucks, I will sure boycott CBS for not letting our freedoms be heard. Only the freedome they want heard are heard. NO MAS CBS!!!!
Edit a bowl they say its a hush , an money grows on trees you ask how to be seen but not on the front banner of the super bowl game,so where maybe its
another part thats not bieng taxed an its not the reform it news comments that get the hush depending
on how its aired “they to air is to be human”but to
edit a bowl during the game isnt how you want to be
pulled from those box seats,snack be up front with
those an if its not air play then keep the ball in bounds!
I’m impressed at the number of comments. Apparently, this item has made a great impact, enough to inspire lots of people to speak up.
But, I believe many readers have missed the real story here. I agree with the comment stating this country is run by money, and believe that is the heart of what’s happened here.
While beer ads are popular for the Super Bowl, we should remember these ads, while certainly representing significant income for CBS during this one event, aren’t necessarily the bread and butter for the network over the rest of the year.
I’m pretty sure the largest purchasers of ad time on CBS (and all of commercial TV, for that matter) are made by the single most powerful opponent to cannabis law reform: Big Pharma.
The networks might give some thought to which ads might offend some viewers, but it certainly makes more sense they would be more worried about offending their biggest advertisers. After all, viewers don’t pay for network TV. Advertisers do.
Big Pharma not only holds the puppet strings of TV, but control our nation’s lawmakers as well. Their lobbyists are infinitly more powerful (think $$) than organizations such as NORML, MPP, ASA, LEAP, and other pro-cannabis groups can ever hope to be.
We know the truth about cannabis. Our government knows the truth about cannabis and, more importantly, Big Pharma knows the truth about cannabis.
They know cannabis represents a genuine threat to their bottom lines, and will continue to use their money and power to influence Washington as strongly as they influence mainstream media.
The numerous polls prove how most of America feels about cannabis laws, but they don’t mean a thing in the grand scheme of things. After all, the Supreme Court has informed us what’s most important in America.
As my granddaughter would say, “Corporations rule, citizens drool!”
And, while it may make us feel we are making a statement by boycotting CBS, the only viewers that really matter are the ones monitored by the folks at Nielsen’s and other ratings organizations.
I just made a facebook group named “Boycott CBS Until they allow NORML ad at Times Square” Please join and get your friends to do the same. I assume most of you will still watch the Super Bowl and I can not ask people to refuse to watch that. But beyond the Super Bowl, CBS must be boycotted. They care about money, well we can take that money away.
I am boycotting the Superbowl and letting CBS know what I am doing. I will tell Bob Shieffer since I think he would listen. KInd of strange – I think CBS owns Showtime which produces “Weeds” – why won’t they advetise for NORML?
I think we need a commercial that starts with a long list of the benefits of Cannabis/Hemp, from medical to industrial. Then say “What if one simple plant can could do all that”?.The plant is CANNABIS.GET IT LEGAL!
It is ALL about $$$$$$$. Big corporations have had us by the balls for some time now, EVERY aspect of our lives is, in one way or another, controlled and manipulated by them. Take a look at the movie “Hemp Revolution” on NetFlix. Hemp. America’s biggest cash crop. What happened to it? And I am not talking about smokin it. I am just talking about hemp for paper pulp, oil from the seeds, etc. IT WAS A HUGE CASH CROP here in america. The entire industry was completely squashed by the oil and wood pulp folks, thank you very much.
For the People???
What is funny is that Viacom owned CBS and Showtime (owned by Viacom) was airing a little show called “Weeds” on it, one of their best rated shows. CBS is only worried about their stock price which, like their programming and ratings, has been in the toilet for years now.
Google Search CBS and “Weeds”.
http://sho.com/site/weeds
Can you say hypocrite?
To editor’s reply to post 90: Citizens United wasn’t about donating to political candidates directly; it was about corporations and unions using their general treasury funds to independently fund “electioneering communication” or speech that advocates the election or defeat of a candidate within 30 days before a primary and 60 days before a general election. However, corporations and unions were allowed to establish a political action committee for express advocacy or electioneering communications purposes.
Though drug policy reform advocates such as NORML were always able to broadcast their message, even they would’ve been prevented from funding advertisements which endorsed or attacked a particular candidate near an election. The “Obama would’ve been a criminal in NYC” ad is probably borderline, and an ad which expressly opposes an anti-reform candidate could’ve landed you in hot water. Remember, both NORML and Citizens United are 501(c)(4) non-profit corporations; the same laws that restrict CU’s free speech can also be used to restrict NORML’s free speech.
Does the following make sense to you?—“ Extending (NORML)–which can not feel, die, breathe, eat, sleep, experience joy, love, think, sweat, cry–human status with rights and privileges under the Constitution, to spend unlimited amount of corporate resources directly into political campaigns is both bizarre and wrong. It’s not as if (NORML) pre-Citizen’s United didn’t already have myriad ways to influence the outcome of elections with their access to tens of millions in cash.” Do you really want to shoot yourself in the foot?
If you value free speech and are concerned about corporations outspending citizen-activists, then you should be happy with the ruling. Regulations almost always have unintended consequences that favor those with money and power. In this case, if the ruling went the other way there would still be nothing preventing drug testing companies, private prison corporations, etc. from establishing a political action committee and funding all of the pro-drug-warrior campaign ads they wanted to. Corporations with more resources at their disposal are in a better position to get around the law. Smaller corporations, like NORML for instance, don’t have that luxury and are -more- limited in what they can say.
I don’t watch CBS anyway. Does anybody?
There needs to be a law suit. This is basically a chilling effect and it should be addressed. The law suit itself would bring a lot of attention to the issues and would pay for itself in media coverage.
Will someone from any of our pro-cannabis organizations please use your silver tounges and contact Frito-Lay or any subsidiaries and convince them their profit would increase due to legalized marijuana. Fight fire with fire; use the corporations that can help this cause.
Yeah, big alcohol, big tobacco, and the big pharmaceuticals are funding the war on drugs. Even though I believe its more a war on marijuana, as way more people smoke pot than do heroin, cocaine, and methamphetamines combined. They will never let marijuana become legal, and if the pharmaceutical industry has its way, not even legal for medical use in the majority of states. Because they are making way too much money from people buying anti-emetics (nausia medicine), opiates, glaucoma medicines, anti-anxiety meds, sleep aids, and others.
I wonder if NBC owned times square, if they would let you put it up? Since they seem to be more liberal. Eh, probably not.
You are voting every time that bar code gets scanned when ever you make a purchase.
Look up the LGBT list for harmful companies, VANS skateboard shoes is even on there.
what that…..seeds? now i dont have to worry!
Quite frankly, if I’m one of the big-wigs at CBS, I’ll take whatever ad revenue I can get! They’re dead last in the ratings game, so why are they playing the “pick & choose” game with their advertisers?
Allen, if there was a contract between NORML and CBS to broadcast the ad in Times Square, what is the cost of GETTING OUT of the contract?
Maybe that money could be used elsewhere to further the cause of ending prohibition and helping to fix our country & economy. Perhaps the Tea Party contingent would provide support. . .or better yet; maybe we could create OUR OWN TEA PARTY: THE NORML TEA PARTY!
Abortion, wow another wedge issue. What’s next gay marriage or how about gun rights.
Pro life, so that we can have more Soldiers to fight our oil wars. Really, People if you still fall for that wedge issue crap, you’re not ignorant you’re stupid.
There’s only one issue that matters people, it’s our wallets, not gays, guns or abortion or god.
Wedge issues were created by the wealthy to get your mind off of your wallets so they can steal you blind.
I voted Democrat, I am a U.S. Marine, I don’t care what the gays do because I’m not a homophobe and I don’t go to church because religion is man made. besides, I’m smart enough to know how to read a book without having some lazy idiot with a collection plate tell me what it all means. I have a closet full of assault rifles and you’ll take’em bullets first !
And while all of you simpletons are watching a bunch of men in tight pants play with balls, My woman and I will be breaking some bedroom furniture.
Oh yea, FUCK YOU CBS !!!
CBS SUCKS
I got a plan how about everyone that is for this movement to not watch the game only enough to see the score then turn it, when there view #s go down they will see were not f**kin around.#98 im with u on that i as well am going to live a free man or will also die tryin
P.S. Cant wait to see just how many viewers there r with this controversy,
Legalize it.
Too many good people have had their lives ruined for their choice of relaxation.
End the insanity and
LEGALIZE IT!
I totally agree that the move is bullshit. Abortion has been one of the front issues for years, their commercial on the Superbowl isnt new news, its just political. CBS shouldve run NORML’s ad, because legalization would most definitely affect the economy, abortion wont.
But you have to look at it from the point of CBS: Since they are already running the anti-abortion ad, which is very heavy politically, a move to run another heavy politically ad, legalization, probably looked too risky for their bottom line. As all of us have seen, its always about the bottom line:money. Not the issues, or things that are important, but money. Those CBS Bastards.
wow, this information really blows my mind… thanks a lot ladies and gentlemen for all of the GREAT INFO!
PS. boycott the superbowl if you LOVE FREEDOM!
Just read ALL of the comments above, and the thing that is missing is this:
NORML and other pro-pot groups should simply buy out a billboard company. Then they could advertise all they wanted and no one could tell them what they could display and what they couldn’t.
Just a thought.
If you haven’t noticed, abortions are actually needed in this country. There are WAAAY too many people in this country that can’t take care of themselves, let a lone their children! Stop the welfare cycle teen parenting crap! And no, it’s not “murder” as long as you do it early enough
#116
That is what I was saying way back in post #53.
This sounds like the definition of discrimination and a lawsuit should be filed.
discrimination
treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.
Long time reader, really enjoy the information shared here.
It really bugs me that the major networks and organizations that could push marijuana reform to the tipping point run away from the issue. They spike their ratings by running some poorly done look at marijuana culture, end the program by demonizing it, and then proceed to block any sort of real knowledge.
One note though: hypocrisy not hypocracy. Not to be a total nut, but I feel like this article is too important to let those slide.
Thanks for the great work!
keep on fighting everyone. we are closer than we have been since it wasn’t illegal (1937). i also am going to quit drinking alcohol until cannabis is legalized, even though i only drink a few times a year. thanks for the idea from prior post., i honestly cant beleive the government because they wont legalize it. everyone should read#98 because that person is onto something. i believe obama will legalize it in his 2nd term, right now there is way too much going on for him too. lets just hope he gets a 2nd term.
Thanks Russ you really made my day.I am going to stick to my guns on this one,Like many of the anti-drug advertisements of the 80s and 90s my brothers comments were rude and uncalled for.I wannt to help Norml let’s stick together pepole go to work And clean up the mess the prohibitions have made in America.
Honestly whether or not marijuana is legalized or not people are still going to smoke it. Why not profit from it? why not turn the money that we get from selling it and turn it into the community? reading up above i look at a passage someone wrote how tobacco, alcohol, pharmacy opiates cause death when no one can prove that weed has actually killed anyone. how could marijuana be worse then those if it (be it still intoxicating, and still impairs judgment) is not as bad as those and they are still legal. in one way i’m happy marijuana not taxed, but it feels like if the government allows things that have worse side effects to be legal, why cant marijuana be legal? pills alcohol they can be taken with restrictions like (do not drive under influence)if any law is to be placed it should be that if you smoke marijuana then you should take the same precautions and be safe. everyone smokes it. would you not give anyone the right to choose how to run they’re life? or are we all doomed to live in the shadows forever over something so harmless.
agreed-
This sounds like the definition of discrimination and a lawsuit should be filed.
discrimination
treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.
Yooooo I got great news im on peerblock and i seen cbs pop up so i enabled it their probabll gonna see my post and shit fucoes this.
Yooooo I got great news im on peerblock and i seen cbs pop up so i enabled it their probablly gonna see my post and watching other sites talking about them..
peerblock blocks people/computers/companies from entering our comps.
my last post was a big typo sorry.
It looks like CBS just pissed in their Kellogg’s cornflakes!
#134 Joeblaze wrote: “i believe obama will legalize it in his 2nd term, right now there is way too much going on for him too. ”
Dude, his budget proposal for 2011 includes a 5.4% increase in funding drug enforcement. It doubles what he wants to spend on prevention and treatment. Is that the actions of a president who is going to all of a sudden turn around and legalize it his second term? You think a president who would legalize it, who is going through the budget line by line to desperately make cuts anywhere to decrease our deficit, maybe would decrease funding for the failed drug war? Heck, maybe not decrease, maybe just freeze it. So let’s get this straight… he laughed at the idea of legalization, so he flat out told us he is not behind us. He increases the budget for drug enforcement, so his actions are lining right up with his words.. and you still think he is going to legalize it his 2nd term?
I know a CBS Records artist who supports NORML. Dumb CBS.
This is when things really get bad. We had the senate for a while now and couldnt accomplish anything. We had a pot smoker get elected and still, no dice. We are all property, owned by people who will tell us what we can and cant have as long as they can profit either way or in MJ case…both. Face it, the states will drop the ball, the medical weed will leak into other states and the fed will shut it all down again and say “oh see we tried but the states couldnt regulate it!”. And what will americans do? the usual…nothing piss and moan online and talk to people who already agree with them and not actually accomplish anything
Also in addition, the whole billboard thing is absolutely no surprise. Look up clearchannel communications and then look up the other 6-7 corporations that really control the country. These empty suits and token politicians are just there for the population to demonize while the special interests run off with all the money. They take care of the talking heads after their terms are up for doing their jobs as human property of the corporations. Lobbyists are out there handing over legal bribes by the thousands every day, we the voters stand absolutely no chance in hell of changing a single thing. obama proved that by wasting half a term doing nothing but talking about polar bears and hope…now he lost the majority and everything gets worse as if we thought it could. Sit back and enjoy folks, we’ll be in Iran befre u know it getting shot for protesting against our owners.
People are stupid, its all a corporate scam to strip us of our constitutional rights via money. In the day where anyone could print a news paper we had free speech. Now we have all this communication media that is so regulated that it isn’t funny. If the government didn’t step in, a powerful corporation probably will. By having all the money these people control so much of our government. They have our political balls in a big solid gold corporate vice.
Of course CBS is going to let a right wing campaign ad against abortion air on superbowl sunday, they are a corporate company. Democrat = People, Republican = Corporation (at least for the most part). Democrat, Democracy; Democrat, Democracy: am I the only one who sees the link? Democracy, what our country was founded on, has been dead for so long. We need to bring it back. Were it my choice I’d say full scale revolution and burn every corporate headquarters and government building to the ground, but thats why we don’t leave the choice to a manic-depressive without his pills.
I think we just need to keep fighting. When the time comes to act, we will all know and raise our banners high (almost as high as we are) in the name of Democracy.
As some one who builds homes for families, commercial buildings for jobs, and maybe someday schools for education, if cannabis were LEGAL, I would invest in HEMP composite building materials and create the ultimate homes of a sustainable future. 2×4’s, plywood, gypsum, and many other materials involved in the construction process can be supplemented with hemp based materials similar to what William Henry Ford was doing before Petro-Oil infiltrated our government to bring us before our knees before Big Corp and Pharma as we are today.
*The R value of concrete can be raised using hemp fiber as an insulator either mixed in at the proper ratio or to replace other types of insulation. The U value of the building becomes lower and more stable saving energy costs.
… now, apply a few solar panels, a little solar heat, and a solar water heater and your saving the planet!
The perils of man are the greeds that keep us from progressing.
CBS sucks. Now on to more important things…Nobama doesn’t deserve a second term if he doesn’t abolish the federal ban on the one thing that could’ve saved his mother’s life, a thing he enjoyed in his own youth, and admittedly “inhaled, frequently” then stuttered like Porky Pig. Th-th-th- that was the point.
What’s my point? Put the fire under his ass. Let him know that we will not support him for 2012’s presidential auction. More than half of this great nation’s fine people of voting age support the full legalization of medical cannabis for ailing individuals, and their right to discuss this with their physicians without either party fearing retribution from Big Brother.
Now there’s a Times Square ad worthy of promotion. “President Obama, honor your pledges while campaigning for the high office you hold. You hold it at our pleasure. You can and will be voted out of office if you don’t end this ‘utter failure’ war on Americans who make the sensible, safer choice of recreational and medicinal product.”
PS: Thanks for doing the right thing and signing DC’s medical marijuana bill into law. Now follow up, and come ON, get rid of that Ubercunt at DEA.
End rant. ;-}
everyone quit buying alcohol and cigs. that would help. any other real ideas to get their attention.
CBS is a joke, not to air medical cannabis,every one knows about it. Yet they still want to keep it a secert. If we don’t advertise it they won’t ask for it.Well, we want medical cannabis and we do not care what this goverment want! Some where, there is a place or person that will air that ad.
CBS = Censorship Blatantly Shows
I boycotted the Superbowl and will continue o not watch CBS until they play fairly. Not that there’s anything worth watching on CBS anyhow. I’ve boycotted other companies for up to 20 years now… I certainly will have no problem with not watching CBS. This is America and we are tired of being bullied!
The justice system is completely fucked up in this country from marijuana prohibition to kids going to jail over flat out stupid shit. Another thing that bothers me is that people seem to look to the government all too often to make decisions or form opinions for them. What a lot of people need to start doing is make up their own mind based on facts and not stupid (obviously) bullshit propaganda like “marijuana makes you a insane rapist murdering asshole” Keep up the good fight Norml.org!!
Russ, I was referring to the content of the sign. However, I agree with you that the look was equally as amateurish.
Ok,people, we need to talk. I smoke nearly every day, and have been a pothead for nearly a decade (hell, I’m high right now) and I have to say that this is far fetched. Have we finally smoked ourselves retarted?
The reason it’s too political is because you have a picture of Obama saying “I inhaled frequently, that’s the point”. It has little to nothing to do with the cause, it’s an issue with you directing this by picturing the president as a pothead. There is a very big line separating “add for the cause” and “The president gets high”.
Did you ever think of designing a new add to use?
We can’t just stomp our feet like little kids. We need to be reasonable adults and work on a pro-legalization add that doesn’t specifically “attack” one of the worlds biggest political leaders, and that’s exactly how 30-40% of the country would view that add. They wouldn’t even notice the NORML logo, they would just assume it’s an attack on Obama.
[Paul Armentano responds: To clarify, the 15-second animated spot was the ad submitted to CBS. The Obama one-sheet was simply a mock-up, not anything that was submitted to CBS.]
I like the money tree ad a lot though!
Honestly, that is a very poorly designed ad.
NORML should hire some good graphic designers and advertising experts. In fact, I’d bet there are many smart art school / graphic design students who could do a much better job.
[Editor’s note: Thanks for your opinion…the ad company that offered NORML the buy didn’t allow the organization more than 56 hours to design ads for submission, including 48 hours over a weekend. There was no time to solicit art school students for a contest.]
this is a little off subject but i was just wondering why certain products, such as diet pills, etc. are not approved by the fda but are still legal, where marijuana, a substance put on the schedule I drug list a LONG time ago is illegal. i personally think these unapproved substances should be illegal for the simple fact that we dont necessarily know how safe they are in the long run. and of course i believe marijuana should be legal because of how safe it is to adults as a form of relaxation, etc. the list goes on and on, but see my point?
I would like to add to my previous post. (151) CBS is a lame company. After the Janet Jackson thing at the Super Bowl they would not show Saving Private Ryan (which I and many people consider it a historical movie) because of the violence and language…… yeah, lets lie to our kids about war like we lie about marijuana. note kids shouldn’t be smoking but don’t give the Tobacco companies(they target children) control of marijuana because I don’t want the thousands of chemicals in it. and marketed to children. I wiling to bet tobacco wouldn’t cause the heath problems it does in its COMPLETE natural state.
FUCK CENSORSHIP AND PROHIBITION!!! LETS RESURRECT THE USA WE KNOW AND LOVE!
Back to the main point here.
The fact is CBS denied services based on their preconceived notions about the NORML organization and the possibility of public backlash for providing those services. I think Mr. Stroup needs to file a discrimination lawsuit immediately.
I understand that the odds of winning the lawsuit are slim but that is not the point. The government and court systems and big businesses everywhere have made a GAME out of CANNABIS laws. If NORML hopes to create some significant changes, we must PLAY THE GAME better than they do. That may be something we don’t want to hear but it is undeniable.
Mr. Stroup, please go BEAT THEM AT THEIR OWN GAME!
[Editor’s note: There is no discrimination lawsuit to be filed in a private advertising contract where the advertiser reserves the final say.]
Until we boycott the advertisers on CBS, because they are on CBS we will not change their attitude. If cannabis sympathizers were to organize a boycott of say the top five advertisers on CBS those advertisers would reduce the money they spend. It could cost CBS millions and that is how you get someone’s attention.
Oh… ok…. guess my television WON’T be turned on CBS any more. Not that it was frequently anyhow… but I had to tell hubby… “sorry, no more Price is Right”.
First realize who gains by keeping Cannabis a schedule one narcotic… of course you must include law enforcement, the court system, the prison system but also the counciling centers that make lots and lots of money off the “clients” sentenced to classes the “client must pay for. (in some states this can cost thousands of dollars)…then you must factor in the drug cartels. Since the prohibition of cannabis includes commercial hemp you must add timber, paper, cotton, oil companies and of course pharmicutical co. Let me ask you: who has the most money to throw at prohibition, us or them?
CBS denied this ad because it can harm the persona of the one in the ad. Don’t freak out that “BIG BUSINESS” made a big business decision and you are all reading it all out of context. This is bad for business and bad for the person (which could sue). Even if it is the president.
…but yet CBS runs an anti-abortion ad with Tim Tebow’s ignorant ass, during the SUPER BOWL. Need I say more?
I urge you all to leave feedback at CBS.com and voice your opinion. One voice may not mean much, but thousands and millions are where it makes a difference.
we have to push and push i agree with todd and prob many more post we have to get annoying but sophisticated! have answers to throw in ther face come up with new arguments they are obviously not listening to death rates. this is our time we have to shine no one ever got anything without alot of trouble and hard times.so back to cbs lets go ahead and say there not on our side i’ve seen marijuana nation wich has its pros and cons. i noticed they interviewed some not so political people which they mean well just not making good points.we should protest under time square with your ads on post cant back down from the corporate way and way to rich mother F****** anymore. love you guys and everyone here!
yall’s friend,
fully melted 120
For the love of god, sue. If corporations have the 1st Amendment right to produce smear movies about political candidates right before an election, then NORML has the 1st Amendment right to buy ad space that is regularly used for more “political” messages than theirs (and probably a Freevibe ad or two in its time)…
And about the previous editor’s note… there didn’t use to be any freedom of speech cause of action for groups like Citizens United, either. I’m not saying you’ll get a court to rule in your favor on a first amendment claim, but as long as the court just handed down a highly controversial decision premised on the first amendment, you might as well expose their own hypocrisy.
I gave up marijuana for the job. The union doesn’t support even medical marijuana liscenses. Now I go to work every day with a hangover. I certainly affects my productivity. My alcohol consumption? through the roof
The only way to WIN the game is to JOIN the game. We need to become Cannibis incorporated.
Didn’t I hear that weed was the second or third largest cash crop in America? Why are we not slapping the faces of our EMPLOYEES with a dick that big?
Cannabusiness needs to organize itself into an evolving, ever growing political and business power base that no longer begs at the feet of the masters for those few morsels of freedom.
We have legitimate businesses. Businesses need banks. Banks need even larger instruments,like mutual funds,etc. to grow their business.
If we compete with the mainstream on a level playing field they will soon enough discover that they never had a chance of stopping us. That must be why it’s always so damn hard to get the field level.
Your useless brother #95 william is exactly what the government wants. There are family members, for other reasons not shared here, that I’ve had to walk away from. They won’t listen to one ounce of reason concerning Prohibition. They’re losers too, so there’s only Limited contact with them.
And as far as billboard time slots and commercials, have them prepared ahead of time. Run another contest NORML for talented people to donate their goods.
A simple, and hopefully effective slogan would something to the tune of: We’ve all been lied to about cannabis, start asking why.
I used to support NORML and “High Times”, now that High Times comes out with “Move on .org” as a legitimate political concern, and sees the Pro Life movement as controversial, I no longer can.
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