NORML Forms Multi-State Workplace Drug Testing Coalition

mj_salesThe fact that 190 million Americans now live in states where marijuana has been legalized to some degree is raising a number of questions and issues about how to integrate the American workforce and marijuana consumers rights in regards to drug testing. With medical marijuana is legal in 29 states and recreational marijuana for adult use in 8 states and Washington DC, millions of responsible and otherwise law-abiding adults remain at risk of being excluded from the workforce due to a positive drug test — even where the use does not affect an individual’s job performance or has taken place days or weeks prior to the test.

NORML believes that this practice is discriminatory and defies common sense. As a result, a growing coalition of NORML Chapters in California, Oregon, Colorado and Washington have come together to advocate for necessary legislative and workplace reforms to protect responsible marijuana consumers.

NORML’s Workplace Drug Testing Coalition’s efforts will focus on these four areas:

  1. Reform workplace drug testing policies
  2. Expand employment opportunities for marijuana consumers
  3. Clarify the difference between detection technology and performance testing
  4. Highlight off-duty state law legal protections for employees

“Even though marijuana is legal and readily available in several states, consumers are being unfairly forced to choose between their job and consuming off the clock as a result of out-of-date employment practices,” said Kevin Mahmalji, National Outreach Coordinator for NORML. “That is why many NORML chapters active in legal states are now shifting their attention to protecting honest, hardworking marijuana consumers from these sort of antiquated, discriminatory workplace drug-testing practices, in particular the use of random suspicionless urine testing.”

Employer testing of applicants or employees for trace metabolites (inert waste-products) of past use of a legal substance makes no sense in the 21st century.  This activity is particularly discriminatory in the case of marijuana where such metabolites may be detectable for weeks or even months after the consumer has ceased use.

With the 2017 Legislative Session underway, this issue is finally getting the attention it deserves. Legislation has already been introduced in Oregon and Washington, and is gaining traction in those states.

“Random suspicionless drug testing of applicants or employees for past marijuana use is not just unfair and discriminatory, it’s bad for business,” said attorney Judd Golden of Boulder, Colorado, a long-time NORML activist and Coalition spokesperson. The modern workforce includes countless qualified people like Brandon Coats of Colorado, a paraplegic medical marijuana patient who never was impaired on the job and had an unblemished work record. Brandon was fired from a Fortune 500 company after a random drug test, and lost his case in the Colorado Supreme Court in 2015. The Court unfortunately found Colorado’s lawful off-duty activities law that protects employees for legal activities on their own time didn’t apply to marijuana use.

California NORML is also expecting legislation to be introduced this session to address this issue. Ellen Komp, deputy director of California NORML said, “One of the most frequently asked questions we have been getting since Prop. 64 passed legalizing adult marijuana use in California last November is, ‘Am I now protected against drug testing on my job?’ Sadly in our state, not even medical marijuana patients are protected against job discrimination, and it’s a priority of Cal NORML to change that. We are hoping to get a bill introduced at the state level and are working with legislators, unions, and other reform groups to make that happen.”

NORML Chapters across the country are advocating on behalf of the rights of responsible marijuana consumers against discrimination in the workplace. “Our coalition was formed with the intention of not only educating legislators, but also with businesses in mind.  It is important they know testing for marijuana is not mandatory, and that employers have testing options,” said Jordan Person, executive director for Denver NORML. The Denver chapter is currently working with companies that offer performance impairment testing of workers suspected of on-the-job impairment or use rather than unreliable bodily fluid testing to help provide options for employers.

thumbs_upFor decades drug testing companies and others have pushed their agenda through a campaign of misinformation. Until now there has never been an organized effort to challenge the profit- driven ideology of those who seek to benefit from intrusive drug screening. Mounting evidence continues to prove there is no logical reason why adult marijuana consumers should be treated with any less respect, restricted more severely, and denied the same privileges we extend to responsible adults who enjoy a casual cocktail after a long day at the office.

For legal questions, please contact Coalition spokesperson Judd Golden at juddgolden@outlook.com. For other marijuana related questions or an interview, please contact Kevin Mahmalji at kevinm@norml.org.

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  1. Hello
    I am open to a discussion with you regarding urine drug screening. I am a master degreed professional who just went through a preemployment drug screen today.
    I was treated like a criminal.
    I was appalled.
    I am an advocate for cannabis patients and a certified cannabis caregiver.
    I live in NH.
    If I can be of any assistance please contact me anytime.
    Thank you and good luck.

  2. Yes! Thank you NORML. I must help in anyway that I can when Florida gets looped in to this coalition! Please.

  3. For a free American citizen, work is by agreement only. Jobs ain’t military operations, and military operations ain’t jobs. Employers have no authority over you that you don’t give them; and if you didn’t agree to it, then it’s not part of your job.

    The problem with drug testing is economic coercion. That’s the whole point of it: otherwise we would all just tell them to go fuck themselves. But we can’t, because we depend on our jobs to survive. It’s a gun to the head, exactly as it is intended to be.

    Employers deliberately use economic coercion, and it’s for political reasons, not for the “reefer madness” phony justifications listed in the company handbook.

    But with respect to the vast majority of jobs, one’s marijuana use is irrelevant, whether on-the-clock, or off-the-clock. In all these cases, drug testing is not only discriminatory, but it is also physically and psychologically invasive.

    I’m not sure what legal principle is violated when a person is coerced, via physical or economic force, into submitting to a physical invasion of their body; but I call it rape.

    I’m not making light of the crime of rape when I say that, although I’ve never been raped, I have rape-survivor psychological issues. Why? Drug testing. But this isn’t about me; I mention it only to highlight the fact that drug testing is not normal, and it has nothing to do with one’s job qualifications.

    Thank you, good people at NORML, for saying what I know, but which we all need to hear: workplace drug testing is discriminatory, traumatic and invasive; it serves a larger political purpose which is corrupt and violent; and it needs to stop.

    1. Thank you for saying this! It is economic coercion, and it serves one purpose: to subcontract /constitutional rights violation to the private sector. And it is absolutely rape, as it is a forcible invasion of another persons body, and if it is a choice then I say let every armed robber or rapist out of prison now, since apparently “do as you’re told or die” is now considered a free choice.

      I don’t think you’re crazy because I have the same issues. I loathe myself for having submitted, I feel dirty, I feel violated, I feel (sometimes physically) as if my boss has a finger between my legs at all times, I don’t feel as though my body belongs to me, and I feel as if I am being treated like a criminal when I am the victim. When I complain or tell people how I feel, I am either laughed at or glared at with absolute hatred, and in either case I am told to shut up.

      I got “randomly” selected a couple years ago, and I developed a nasty case of deep fissured hand eczema that hasn’t let up and ius only kept at a bearable level due to some very expensive lotions that I have to saturate my hands with frequently.

      I don’t use any MJ (though I could probably use it) or any other drugs, but I have started drinking considerably more than I did before. From having a drink maybe four or five times a year to having one or more drinks multiple times a week. Ironically, their misinformed effort to curb substance abuse in employees may well cause a substance abuse problem in me.

      I have a site, though I need to update a few links. I’ve been collecting URLs of anti-drug testing articles, studies, etc, plus writing some of my own thoughts. You and others might find some ammo there.

      enddrugtesting.blogspot.com

  4. Excellent! What a milestone for NORML. Thats what I love about our chapters; we dont sit around and wait for magic leadership; we listen to consumers and members and we lobby to change local law, against all odds.
    In all my years of being active with Texas NORML I never would have thought my Republican state Representative would be cosponsoring decriminalization because “perfectly capable Texans are being prevented from employment for a relatively safe substance they may have only tried once.”
    I was lobbying Rep. Isaac’s office simply to expand the ineffective Compassionate Use Act and he hit me out of left field. “My Republican State Congressman? For Decrim?”
    Of course. The message is simple;
    “Marijuana is safer than alcohol.”
    “Decriminalizing keeps people employed.”
    “Medical marijuana creates jobs and saves lives.”

    Also helps both the NHSA and AAA confirm we cannot determine when someone has been impaired by finding traces of cannabis in blood, breath or urine. Law enforcement is still scrambling with those facts.

    Now of course every business has every right to take kickbacks from the empire of piss some politicians employ (or actually own the facilities). We also retain the right not to work there or consume their products.

    So here’s a thought:

    The NORML Workplace Drugtesting Scorecard:

    A list of businesses that get graded A through F on their compliance with NORML standards for workplace drugtesting. C’mon! We’ll crowdfund until we get sponsors then make commercials until the piss testing industry goes down the drain like Ivanka from Nordstrum’s!

    1. You stole my idea! :). I wanted to crowd source a graded list of companies on enddrugtesting.blogspot.com based on three categories: all kinds of testing, with a cause tinkly testing, and no testing, with no testing being the highest grade. I thought that a boycott could start changing their tunes,since most drug testing employers will admit off the record that they are really only testing for public relations cred and taxpayer funded kickbacks.

      I just don’t have the audience, time, funds, or knowhow, plus the momentum is only now starting up.

      1. “Stole” implies I read your blogspot… lets just agree we have mutually enlightened ideas?
        As a student of Advanced Placement government throughout three high schools… (or schools high…) I learned through deductive reasoning and some very informed government teachers that;

        We as American consumers give zero credit to the power we maintain over our government as consumers… In other words, sale$ taxation create$ repre$entaion…

      2. Hey, I’m not accusing you of really stealing my idea! It was a joke! I’m just thrilled that someone else is thinking the same way! Probably should have said “great minds think alike”? 🙂

      3. That’s a really good idea. I expecially like organizing boycotts against some of the worst companies. It’s a big undertaking but if I can help let me know.

      4. Sorry I took this long. Keep an eye on my anti drug testing blog (enddrugtesting.blogspot.com), if I start anything I’ll likely announce it there!

        Which I just may, since I have a great deal of free time suddenly!

  5. Here, I’ll start;

    Here are careers and entire industries with an “A”:

    http://www.trade-schools.net/articles/jobs-that-dont-drug-test.asp

    Notice the American innovation in these fields?
    IT consultant? Journalist? (Well that explains NPR… Waitaminute, accountants dont get drugtested?! Ok, we’ll let THAT slide…)

    Now let’s look at Companies with an “A”:

    https://www.google.com/amp/attn-google-amp.herokuapp.com/stories/5382/top-companies-that-dont-drug-test?client=safari

    Google? Wholefoods? NPR? “A’s!”

    (Except for Redbull… I actually think they SHOULD be drugtesting… just for Redbull! And Twitter should be drugtesting but only for people addicted to Twitter, beginning with the President).

    Now let’s look at careers and companies that DO drugtest:

    http://www.drugfree.org/news-service/84-percent-of-employers-require-pre-employment-drug-tests/

    Ok, lets narrow it down.
    What kind of jobs routinely test?

    http://www.testclear.com/dtcompanies/searchcompany.aspx

    Narrowing it down to Texas, this link shows
    “Associated Pipeline Contract” at the top of the list. Yay, we get to poison the earth to gain our daily sense of affirmation and accomplishment! …and try every drug except marijuana. (THAT explains a lot).

    Other piss-testing careers include “The Mudlogging Company” , “Dons & Bens Liquor” and “All Offshore Drilling Contracts.”

    Notice the patent LACK of innovation? (Well, except for the tech used on offshore drilling… but they give those guys a month off and they get FUC*ED up. Of course renewable fuels ARE more innovative…). The irony is I think we’d have to get stoned just to TAKE one of these jobs:
    “You’re workin till nine Jules!” (Me, while mopping someone’s vomit off the liquor store floor…) “Agaaain? Can I at least get STONED?” (Boss), “No, I told you, you’ll fail your piss test.” (Me) “Well screw THIS job.” (Drops the mop) “Ill just go be self employed.”

    1. Janitor dude doesn’t need to start a business, and go through all that trouble — just drop the mop and go get a different janitorial job!

      There are a lot of toilets in America. That’s lots and lots of janitorial work in America that a lot of people are too proud and sissified to do themselves. We Americans just got to have “class” so we can feel superior about ourselves. But when you’re working for less than, say, $15/hr, you’re “lower class.” You’re at the bottom, fool. You ain’t “moving on up” and you know it. So who you going to look down on now?

      Answer: fucking janitors. But don’t worry about judgemental assholes; that’s their problem, so just ignore them. Do the job, do it well. End of the day, a long hot shower, and your life is your own again.

      Be high. Be very high.

      1. Too low under the radar to get caught getting high? I guess janitors are like IT jobs; if we start piss testing for marijuana there wont be anyone left to do the job! Stay high, my friend. Its an honor to serve.

  6. This really hits home. I have had a medical marijuana card in 2 states for about 10 years. I’m a 35 year old pharmacist that was promoted to pharmacy manager for a big name national pharmacy. Last year a random came through our store and of course I failed. I had to take a leave of absence for 4 months while a private company handled my case to “get me back to work.” This was in lieu of getting fired so luckily I kept my job. However I had to go through 4 weeks of an intensive outpatient program, and 4 aa/an meetings a week for the 4 weeks. Now that I’m back to work I have to call a phone number everyday for an entire year for the first of a five year monitoring program to see if I have to go drug test. I also have to go to 2 aa/na meetings a week for the first year. The next 4 years i won’t have to make the call, but they will randomly call me at any point to go take a drug test. This is considered part of a last chance program for pharmacists and from what I understand 5 years is the norm for a pharmacist to be on the hook.

    All of this because I chose to use medical marijuana for an esophagus condition I have that hinders my ability to eat enough through the day. I was never under the influence at work but I would use at night or on weekends to relax and eat. I also hardly drink as I prefer marijuana. This needs to change and it is long overdue.

    1. So you chose to go to work with a company and accepted their money and terms of employment and then are unhappy that when YOU INTENTIONALLY and Knowingly violated those policies? Is that correct? You can Just start your own business and hire whoever you want with whatever policies you choose and then this would not even be an issue. But if you want someone else to take all the risk and invest in a business then you should honor your agreement and their policies!

      1. Hey, did you miss the part where he needed it to freaking eat? That’s not “choosing” to break a policy, as if he just wanted to have funsy high times, it was a medical necessity.

        And starting a business is not something just anyone has the capital to do, same with “be self-employed”. We have a system currently that makes survival impossible for the vast majority of people without being employed by someone else, and these companies take advantage of that, enacting all sortrs of invasive and often legally dubious policies, pretending everyone has a free choice to refuse.

        And pharmacist is not the kind of job you can just leave to find another. That is a higher education job, which means he would have to waste a very expensive education he may still be paying for to get what would most likely be a McJob, all for having the audacity to oppose what is an entirely oppressive and unacceptable, not to mention unjust, company policy.

        And how wrong,immoral, oppressive, controlling, or invasive does an employers policies have to be before you would oppose it? Why can’t the manager strip search employees on the way out the door, or mandate blow jobs on demand? Why not brand or tattoo the employees to test their devotion to your business? Or we could reintroduce corporal punishment, and let managers flog and cane employees for any reason they like, hell, its a “free choice” of what company holds the whip, so it’s surely not oppressive! I guess those new policies that require employees to give all their privateemasil and social media passwords to the company for monitoring are a-ok too?

  7. The drug test industry perpetuates a fraud on the government and us all. I saw on the ‘Myth Busters’ that poppy seeds really can result in a false positive for heroin.

    1. Yet the drug testing companies lie like rugs and advertise accuracy rates ranging from 98%-100%. They should be prosecuted for false advertising, but there’s no oversight to that industry, and no real enforcement of what few regulations exist.

      And so many stupid people believe that since drug testing has been around for forty years,all the kinks and problems are surely worked out and cross-reactive false positives are just a !myth perpetuated by paranoid stoners rather than the documented fact it is. Because there is so much pressure to improve in an industry that has few regulations,zero oversight,zero enforcement, and a host of laws requiring many businesses to purchase their services.

  8. What does performance testing look like?

    [Paul Armentano responds: These tests assess a subject’s performance compared to their baseline level.]

  9. Falsehood quoted in above article:
    “It is important they know testing for marijuana is not mandatory,…”

    It is strictly mandated by Federal law, for all employees related to the transportation industry, for instance. This is the biggest employing industry in America, and the FMCSR mandates that even people who work in office cubicles and never leave their desk, be randomly tested for cannabinoid metabolites.

    Positive results on random tests strictly require immediate job termination, followed by ‘self admission to marihuana addiction treatment for six consecutive months’ before rehirability.

    This is strictly mandated by Congress, through the FMSCA.

    1. Testing is not mandated by the Federal Drug Free Workplace Act, is what we meant. Federal preemption and marijuana prohibition on the federal level has resulted in laws like the one you reference, which of course will only change if Congress acts. We expect we will have more success working on the state and local level and and with private employers to make changes to protect employee rights. Thanks for your comment!

    2. The statement above is incorrect. there is no mandated testing for someone sitting in an office. In fact random testing of non safety sensitive personnel is NOT allowed. Meaing there are specific guidelines of who must be tested and who MUST NOT be tested under federal regulations. Please express your concerns but be accurate in your claims.

  10. They’ll stop giving the piss tests when failing it is no longer a reason to fire someone.

    Did Justin Trudeau and Donald Trump talk about Canada legalizing cannabis for adult recreational? What did they talk about? All this other stuff with Trump and the Russians has been elbowing out other nieuws. Christie is a horrible choice for drug czar. No way! California has to add its pull to this tug of war before this new administration has time to do anything detrimental to the legal cannabis momentum.

  11. The forcibly furthered FEAR of “drug” testing might be a driving force behind a percentage of consumer purchases of… real drugs, like $UGARPOP in the case of teenagers. Or alcohol– as @Jim T says, “I also hardly drink as I prefer marijuana.” Uh oh.

  12. BREAKING NEWS:

    The Houston Chronicle reports that District Attorney Kim Ogg is set to decriminalize marijuana in the city of Houston beginning March 1st with NO charges whatsoever for up to 4oz. of marijuana!

    http://m.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/New-policy-to-decriminalize-marijuana-in-Harris-10935947.php

    Segue into this blog: people will be required to take a four hour drug class.

    Its better than Harris County Jail!

    This is while HB81 is being debated on the House floor to decriminalize marijuana in the state of Texas.

    More than 12,000 people are arrested for minor marijuana possession in Harris County each year. The new rules are set to save the county $10million a year in law enforcement and prosecutorial charges alone.

  13. I agree that this is the most important aspect to tackle. I whole-heartedly believe that cannabis should be handled exactly like whiskey. One interim compromise position that could be promoted is the use of saliva testing vs. urine testing. Feasible positives are 2 days instead of 5+. Let’s stop the witch-hunt. I’ve heard all too often in my life, “This guy or gal was an A student. It’s too bad they got caught using pot.” Or “That person was a top notch employee. How could they have been a pot user?” Time to break the paradigm and assert that we are not only not inferior citizens, but often superior in many ways.

  14. I would like to add to my previous blog that the reason this aspect is so important is that without workplace testing recreational use is almost completely unenforceable. Let’s be pragmatic. Don’t stick to principle to the detriment of practical gains.

  15. Cant wait to see what happens ct needs to do something apout it also. If I have a medical card given to me by a Dr. It should be seen as a prescription and treated like you when tested

  16. Fantastic! I am so thrilled NORML is addressing this glaringly unfair discrimination committed daily by employers against workers who use a legally state sanctioned substance in their off-work hours. I find it incredibly offensive that an employer May force me to provide intimate medical access to my body as a condition of employment. Thank you!

  17. I have worked with a number of people who used marijuana. Sometimes as their boss, in general all were good employees. Some were excellent, some were lousy. People are people smoker or not. Passing a drug test doesn’t make you a good employee. Testing positive doesn’t make you a bad employee. As cannabis becomes legal employers will find the employee pool is more smoker than nonsmoker. Employers will find it better to judge an employees performance rather than his actions while off work. Just as water seeks its own level , employers and employees will work out. Many employers will be smokers. It is the insurance industry that needs to wake up and listen to the people. Currently some insurance companies will not insure you if you drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes or are over weight. Cannabis is far safer than both.
    Thank you for reading this and have a good day.

  18. Bottom line: when “The Man” tells you, “You must choose between your job and marijuana,” always choose marijuana. Why? The answer is obvious: jobs suck; marijuana is great. C’mon, honestly: It’s not even close.

    So, the real question becomes: can you be “bought off” by The Man? And if not: Can you live with having your allowance cut off? Being grounded? Lectured? Punished? Homeless?

    Will going through that open your eyes to the corruption of the system?

  19. ATTN: All cannabis proponents, keep your support away from your ties to liberalism, PLEASE. You do a “YUGE” disservice to this cause by associating cannabis with your anti-Trump agenda and your constant accusations of racism, homophobia, Islamaphobia, etcetera. The rest of us looking into your bubble from the outside are pretty fucking sick of that shit. Please shut the FRONT DOOR and stick to the message. Keep that other BS out of it or progress with cannabis WILL halt, guaranteed. This is NOT a partisan issue.

    It’s understood dems/liberals are probably the biggest cannabis activists, but there are plenty of republicans and independents (like me) that also champion the cause. This is a human rights issue. Stop alienating so many people or you will be ignored for behavioral reasons instead of the reefer madness nonsense.

    This message is aimed at the top, down. NORML leadership has frequently been guilty of (near childish) political rhetoric that has no business being in the same discussion as cannabis. Stay on track.

    That said, the many steps forward with legalization is nothing short of AMAZING, and I’m thankful for the successful efforts by NORML and its supporters. Thanks.

    1. Leroy,
      No, Sir. I will not comply with your demands.

      The marijuana legalization movement must never become a vehicle for the fascist, white supremacist agenda of Trump and his KKK-loving crowd.

      The marijuana legalization movement needs Trump supporters about as much as a submarine needs a screen door.

      Trump supporters don’t give a fuck about truth or justice — they consider both to be enemies. Trump supporters care about nothing except for promoting their own bigotry. As long as Trump is rounding up brown people, nothing else matters to these people. NOTHING.

      The marijuana legalization movement is principled, and it is diverse. We need every single good person of every race, creed, color, gender, and orientation, in order to win this thing. Legalization is an issue that crosses all social lines, but it does not cross all political lines as you suggest — active Trump supporters need not apply.

      The movement must be united; but Trump’s goal is to divide us according to race. We cannot allow that. That’s why we have no room for bigots. The marijuana legalization movement needs to shun these folks like a disease.

      1. Mark,

        You’re 100% incorrect with nearly every remark you spewed above, and you are a poor representative for anything related to cannabis. Actually, you’re a poor representative for anything except the face of ignorance and hypocrisy.

        Your facts are askew, and you don’t see your own hate. Disgusting, dude.

      2. I’m on your side Leroy.
        I have shared your sentiment when reading many of the articles here.
        I am a primarily fiscal conservative Libertarian who happened to vote to Make America Great Again (with legal recreational cannabis use). It’s a fundamental mistake to assume that Repubs are all prohibitionists. And ultra left-wing articles risk alienating a very important part of the movements needed support.

      3. You either voted for Trump or you didn’t, dumb-ass. “Make America Great with Cannabis” wasn’t on the presidential ballot. Trump has already signed off on Drug War III (have you caught the news lately?) So, you fucked yourself real good! And you dragged the rest of us down with you.

        I think the marijuana legalization movement has already had enough of your “help!” Thanks but no thanks!

      4. Naturally, you’re free to disagree with me.

        You’ve been very rude about it; but then again, I dish it out, and I can take it, too! So, I’ll let that part slide, too.

        But after that, there’s not much left of your comment. May I point out that you haven’t actually refuted anything I’ve said. You’ve added neither facts nor reason to the discussion. You’ve made no meaningful opposing case.

        I guess that’s because you can’t: because I’m right!

        So, I will stand by my comments.

      5. Mark,

        We don’t see eye to eye politically, and I view your ideology as a cancer in our society, but my point is you should learn from Hillary’s and the DNC’s mistakes leading up to the election. Continue to alienate and insult moderates and conservatives, and you’ll lose the war. You and others like you will loss the war for all of us. The arrogance and hypocritical bullshit needs to stop.

        That’s all. No need to argue politics here, of all places. And that’s really been my point. Don’t sink the ship by mixing cannabis with the liberal agenda.

        “White supremacist agenda” and “KKK-loving crowd,” holy shit that’s some dumb shit right there. Keep that dumb-mother-fucker-flavored-koolaid away from cannabis.

      6. @ Leroy,
        That’s better. Now I got something to work with.

        But Jeff Session’s racist background is a matter of record; indeed, so is all the racist shit Trump does, including EXCLUDING WHITE TERRORISTS from the official terrorist watch-list! Damn, it doesn’t get any more racist than that; and if it does, it’s too grotesque to talk about here. My point is, those things and more, things like Bannon, establish clearly that terms like “KKK” and so forth, fully apply.

        Secondly, racism and marijuana prohibition are inseparable; the reasons why have been well covered on this blog, if you’ve been following along recently. And so, a full and open discussion about marijuana prohibition will include an understanding of the racial underpinnings, as well as the function of racism politically, in terms of voter suppression. These things are facts, and part of the conversation, liberal or not.

        I will not hide my views to appease you; it simply wouldn’t be worth it! Thanks for the chat, however.

      7. Mark,

        Clearly you are a genius. I’m sorry to have said anything that may have appeared to challenge your towering intellect. Please accept my humble apologies.

      8. @ Dudleed,
        I think I have done enough dumb-shit stuff in my lifetime to prove conclusively that I am NOT a genius. I don’t intend to argue otherwise.

        But having myself experienced being wrong, many times, has taught me one thing: facts are facts, and they don’t change just because we may not like them. We must adapt ourselves to the facts, and not the other way around.

        So, don’t take it so personally.

      9. Throwin my 2 cents into this argument:
        Mark: I’m so glad some among us are willing to drop their inflated egos and admit when we are wrong.

        @Dudleed & Leroy; Did Spicer’s recent attack on recreational marijuana wake you up? Did you not see the threat coming when Sessions endorsed the Drumph campaign last March? Or when Drumph started his campaign by blaming Mexicans for “bringing their rapists” just like Harry Anslinger did when he began prohibition of marijuana in 1937?

    2. Be “bipartisan” by shutting up our 1st amendment rights and denying prohibition was based on racism? Yeah, right

  20. I am a medical marijuana patient in New Jersey. I am a retired Probation officer. I was turned down for a job on the NJ Turnpike because I am in the program. I need help. I spoke via email to an Evan Nison who stated he would put me in touch with a lawyer, Still no lawyer.

  21. Legal state or not it is criminal that someone can lose their job and potentially everything because of that all for doing something off the clock. An employer’s right to let someone go ends as soon as that person is home and no longer representing that company. The work place issue is just as important as the legislative and it’s really good to see a movement organising to focus on it. No matter what state you live in you can help by choseing not to give your business companies you know have very tough and discriminatory drug testing policies in favor of those with less restrictive testing practises. Even better e-mail or call and tell them you will not be doing business with them until they change their drug testing policy if they start to see it’s hurting their profits they will change.

    1. You must be my brother from another mother! I’ve trefused to shop at places that drug test for years,even driving miles out of my way and paying more at times to avoid giving drug testers my business! It was and is worth it to me. I wanted to start a boycott/letter writing campaign, but I didn’t think there were enough people to do it. Now I’m not so sure!

  22. Just got terminated from a part time job due to a failed marijuana test!! It’s all BS and it needs to stop!! It’s an invasion of privacy. What I do on my time is my business. They test for drugs but they forget that alcohol is a drug. I’ve seen people drink on their lunch breaks or carry it around in one of those water bottles or yeti cups on the job. But marijuana users are targeted because we go home and smoke in the privacy of our own homes. Not bothering anyone. Not reckless driving because we’re too intoxicated off of booze. But they keep targeting marijuana use. Even the slightest use is frowned upon. It’s getting out of hand and I wish the discrimination would stop.

  23. Hello,
    I work for MDC in Hartford, Ct. I’m subject to non-dot urinalysis tests based on our union contract. In the past, we didn’t get tested, but it was negotiated in. I reached out to Attorney Romano, several state and federal politicians, AFSCME, NORML, MPP to no avail. I’ve been asking if I’m protected with my medical card, but haven’t gotten any answers. I’ve got to be discreet because of my job. Also, will the mro report a positive as negative to my employer in this scenario? I’d like to be a NORML advocate, but find it hard to because there’s been no response from them. I just need a simple answer and guidance.
    Thanks,
    Worried

    [Paul Armentano responds: See the recent federal district court decision in Noffsinger v. SSC Niantic Operating Company, LLC here: http://norml.org/news/2017/08/17/court-marijuana-s-schedule-i-status-does-not-justify-workplace-discrimination-against-state-qualified-patients.%5D

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